Ex-GitHub CEO launches a new developer platform for AI agents

https://entire.io/blog/hello-entire-world/

by meetpateltech • 5 months ago

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entire.io

peterldowns2• 5 months ago

Its a shame Pierre shut down. Wish they could have made it work. Github but made by Linear would be a dream.

gabeidx• 5 months ago

Pierre didn't shutdown, they said they just paused signups on the code review app to focus on the code storage service.

Productizing the building blocks of the platform seems like the smart play in today's environment honestly.

peterldowns2• 5 months ago

Sure but I dont want to build my own Github I just want to use a beautiful and faster alternative

tommoor• 5 months ago

Linear will have something for you soon – https://linear.app/reviews

andrewshawcare• 5 months ago

The game has changed. The system is cracking.

Just say what your thing does. Or, better yet, show it to me in under 60 seconds.

Web sites are the new banner ads and headings like that are the new `<blink>`.

mentalgear2• 5 months ago

Exactly ... tired by all the marketing hyperbole talk. Just show what your product does in a simple example / showcase. If it's good, people will like it. You can save yourself a lot of text copy and user time that way.

munk-a• 5 months ago

But what if my product is just an attempt to make a cushy exit during the AI bubble?

ezekg2• 5 months ago

They'll learn soon enough that selling to developers necessitates speaking clearly.

eddythompson804• 5 months ago

The problem is that when it comes to (commercial) developer tools and services, everyone can/wants to be everything, so why let a simple statement or a showcase limit you? "Hey, we are a container scanning service... But we can also be a container registry too, a CI, a KeyValue store, an agent sandbox provider, git hosting? We can do quick dev deployments/preview too. Want a private npm registry? Automated pull request reviews? Code Signing service? We are working on a new text editor btw"

CodingJeebus• 5 months ago

I feel like these types of pages are less geared towards actual users of the product and more towards the investors who love the vague and flowery language. We're no longer in a world where the path to profitability was the objective goal anyway, it makes sense to me that the marketing of software is becoming decreasingly detached from reality..

It's almost like an extension of the "if you're not paying for the product, you are the product" idea. If you're assessing a tool like this and the marketing isn't even trying to communicate to you, the user, what the product does, aren't you also kind of "the product" in this case too?

rgxsh2• 5 months ago

It is not the system that is on crack ...

dmix• 5 months ago

You need to use AI to summarize the point of articles about AI products

jtokoph2• 5 months ago

I couldn’t figure out what they were doing in the first few screens of scrolling. Moved on.

cess11• 5 months ago

Seems they install a Git hook or something that executes on commit and saves your chatbot logs associated with the commit hash. This is expected to somehow improve on the issue that people are synthesising much more code than they could read and understand, and make it easier to pass along a bigger context next time you query your chatbots, supposedly to stop them from repeating "mistakes" that have already wasted your time.

wellf• 5 months ago

What it does? Imagine a multi line commit message.

Yes yes a Dropbox comment. But the problem here is 1 million people are doing the same thing. For this to be worth 60M seed I suspect they need to do something more than you can achieve by messing around locally."

"Claude build me a script in bash to implement a Ralph loop with a KV store tied to my git commits for agent memory."

1970-01-01• 5 months ago

They also seem bothered by color photography in 2026. All style, no substance.

eej71• 5 months ago

Its like a modern day redux of zombo com.

layer8• 5 months ago

That’s a bit insulting to zombo.com.

StableAlkyne2• 5 months ago

Web sites are the new banner ads and headings like that are the new `<blink>`.

It's been like this since the Dotcom era

Or did you forget that you can do anything at zombo.com?

It appears to be rather slow today, but here's a Wiki link for the uninitiated- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombo.com

ziml77• 5 months ago

The domain expired a few days ago and was purchased by someone else and then changed. There's a recreation of the original here https://html5zombo.com/

romanovcode4• 5 months ago

Same, then I pasted URL to Claude and asked it to explain the product to me: Blocked. Irony is palpable.

port114• 5 months ago

It’s also a completely meaningless headline. It could be the beginning of just about any Medium post, corporate blog, or cyberpunk Steam game.

mentalgear2• 5 months ago

Actually interesting, but how's that different from just putting your learning / decision context into the normal commit text (body) ? An LLM can search that too, and doesn't require a new cli tool.

EDIT: Or just keep a proper (technical) changelog.txt file in the repo. A lot of the "agentic/LLM engineering frameworks" boil down to best approaches and proper standards the industry should have been following decades ago.

verdverm5• 5 months ago

After I have an ai dona task, I ask the next one to look at that plan and git diff and so ble check validate

I don't see the need for a full platform that is separate from where my code already lives. If I'm migrating away, it's to something like tangled, not another VC funded company

dinosor• 5 months ago

... to Cursor's Composer 2.0 and more, ...

I couldn't find any references of Composer 2.0 anywhere. When did that come out?

imafish2• 5 months ago

1.5 released yesterday. probably just slop

- https://cursor.com/blog/composer-1-5

ashtom12• 5 months ago

Fixed. It's Cursor 2.0 and Composer 1.5, mixed that up when editing the post last night.

giancarlostoro5• 5 months ago

Spec-driven development is becoming the primary driver of code generation.

This sounds like my current "phase" of AI coding. I have had so many project ideas for years that I can just spec out, everything I've thought about, all the little ideas and details, things I only had time to think about, never implement. I then feed it to Claude, and watch it meet my every specification, I can then test it, note any bugs, recompile and re-test. I can review the code, as you would a Junior you're mentoring, and have it rewrite it in a specific pattern.

Funnily enough, I love Beads, but did not like that it uses git hooks for the DB, and I can't tie tickets back to ticketing systems, so I've been building my own alternative, mine just syncs to and from github issues. I think this is probably overkill for whats been a solved thing: ticketing systems.

visarga• 5 months ago

I am going lower level - every individual work item is a "task.md" file, starts initially as a user ask, then add planning, and then the agent checks gates "[ ]" on each subtask as it works through it. In the end the task files remain part of the project, documenting work done. I also keep an up to date mind map for the whole project to speed up start time.

And I use git hooks on the tool event to print the current open gate (subtask) from task.md so the agent never deviates from the plan, this is important if you use yolo mode. It might be an original technique I never heard anyone using it. A stickie note in the tool response, printed by a hook, that highlights the current task and where is the current task.md located. I have seen stretches of 10 or 15 minutes of good work done this way with no user intervention. Like a "Markdown Turing Machine".

giancarlostoro5• 5 months ago

That's hilarious, I called it gates too for my reimplementation of Beads. Still working on it a bit, but this is the one I built out a month back, got it into git a week ago.

For me a gate is: a dependency that must pass before a task is closed. It could be human verification, unit testing, or even "can I curl this?" "can I build this?" and gates can be re-used, but every task MUST have one gate.

My issue with git hooks integration at that level is and I know this sounds crazy, but not everyone is using git. I run into legacy projects, or maybe its still greenfield as heck, and all you have is a POC zip file your manager emailed you for whatever awful reason. I like my tooling to be agnostic to models and external tooling so it can easily integrate everywhere.

Yours sounds pretty awesome for what its worth, just not for me, wish you the best of luck.

https://github.com/Giancarlos/GuardRails

mattmanser• 5 months ago

This is built in to Claude Code, when you're in plan mode it makes a task MD file, even giving it a random name and storing it in your .claude folder.

I'm confused how this is any different to the pretty standard agentic coding workflow?

dworks2• 5 months ago

that's similar to the workflow i built, inspired by Recursive Language Models: https://github.com/doubleuuser/rlm-workflow

RAMJAC• 5 months ago

If you are using claude, in your project's `.claude/settings.json` you can add something like:

```

  "hooks": {
    "PostToolUse": [
      {
        "matcher": "Edit|Write",
        "hooks": [
          {
            "type": "command",
            "command": "mix format ${file} 2>/dev/null || true"
          }
        ]
      }
    ],
    "TaskCompleted": [
      {
        "matcher": "",
        "hooks": [
          {
            "type": "prompt",
            "prompt": "reminder: run mix test if implementation is complete"
          }
        ]
      }
    ],
    "Stop": [
      {
        "hooks": [
          {
            "type": "prompt",
            "prompt": "Check if all tasks are complete. If not, respond with {\"ok\": false, \"reason\": \"what remains to be done\"}."
          }
        ]
      }
    ]
  },

```

Just update it to iterate over your file. It should be a little easier to manage than git hooks and can hammer in testing.

samename• 5 months ago

Me too. I've been using spec-kitty [0], a fork of Spec Kit. Quite amazing how a short interview on an idea can produce full documents of requirements, specs, tasks, etc. After a few AI projects, this is my first time using spec driven development, and it is definitely an improvement.

[0] https://github.com/Priivacy-ai/spec-kitty

giancarlostoro5• 5 months ago

Nice, I'll check yours out after work, looks pretty polished.

wild_egg2• 5 months ago

Task management is fundamentally straightforward and yet workflow specific enough that I recommend everyone just spend a few hours building their own tools at this point.

Beads is a nightmare.

dgunay• 5 months ago

I started off with the original beads and it was definitely a nightmare. However I would recommend using https://github.com/Dicklesworthstone/beads_rust - it's a much simpler implementation of the same concept, without all the random extra stuff thrown on to support Gas Town.

port114• 5 months ago

I’m testing this as well, but I’ve no idea people are getting good results out of Claude. What a waste of money… it’s incredible. It will get stuck on everything: basic string substitution, trying to install Python dependencies in a Node project, finding usages of something it’s trying to edit, and on and on.

OliverGilan• 5 months ago

disclosure: i run a startup that will most likely be competitive in the future.

I welcome more innovation in the code forge space but if you’re looking for an oss alternative just for tracking agent sessions with your commits you should checkout agentblame

https://github.com/mesa-dot-dev/agentblame

ashtom12• 5 months ago

Entire CEO here. We are going to be building in the open and full stack open source, but great to see alternatives.

hbarka• 5 months ago

Did you have to choose an adjective to name your product. Now it’s going to be very confusing for search engines and LLms. “Tell me more about entire.” “Entire what?” “You know, that entire thing.”

conartist62• 5 months ago

Another of your competitors here. It makes me giggle that we're going after the entire developer experience while Entire is only looking at a small corner of it.

operatingthetan• 5 months ago

Oh I don't think I need this if all of my commits are AI!

nickorlow3• 5 months ago

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wahnfrieden4• 5 months ago

Essentially all software is augmented with agentic development now, or if not, built with technology or on platforms that is

It's like complaining about the availability of the printing press because it proliferated tabloid production, while preferring beautifully hand-crafted tomes. It's reactively trendy to hate on it because of the vulgar production it enables and to elevate the artisanal extremes that escape its apparent influence

nickorlow3• 5 months ago

It's really not as integral as you make it sound. If I make one PR on a widely used open source tool with a small fix, is most software development augmented by me?

metamet• 5 months ago

Outside of simply not being true, the sentiment of what you're saying isn't much different than:

"Essentially all software is augmented with Stack Overflow now, or if not, built with technology or on platforms that is."

Agentic development isn't a panacea nor as widespread as you claim. I'd wager that the vast majority of developers treat AI is a more specified search engine to point them in the direction they're looking for.

AI hallucination is still as massive problem. Can't tell you the number of times I've used agentic prompting with a top model that writes code for a package based on the wrong version number or flat out invents functionality that doesn't exist.

malfist3• 5 months ago

What part of Voyager I and Voyager II are "augmented with agentic development?"

Surely if all software is augmented with agentic development now, our most important space probes have had their software augmented too, right?

What about my blog that I serve static pages on? What about the xray machine my dentist uses? What about the firmware in my toaster? Does the New York Stock Exchange use AI to action stock trades? What about my telescope's ACSOM driver?

rtcoms• 5 months ago

With openclaw we won't need to make event those apps.

dang5• 5 months ago

"Don't be snarky."

"Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

siliconc0w• 5 months ago

This is a good idea but I feel like you could get something similar by just adding an instruction for the agent to summarize the context for the commit into a .context/commit/<sha> file as a git hook.

ramoz3• 5 months ago

Or git notes.

Commit hook > Background agent summarizes (in a data structure) the work that went into the commit > saves to a note

Built similar (with a better name) a week ago at a hackathon: https://github.com/eqtylab/y

jnwatson• 5 months ago

Exactly. I don't want to wade through a whole session log just to get to reasoning, and more importantly, I don't want to taint my current agent context with a bunch of old context.

Context management is still an important human skill in working with an agent, and this makes it harder.

imafish2• 5 months ago

Not sure what it is or what it does.

ramoz3• 5 months ago

Uses AI to summarize coding sessions tied to commits.

Commit hook > Background agent summarizes (in a data structure) the work that went into the commit.

Built similar (with a better name) a week ago at a hackathon: https://github.com/eqtylab/y

verdverm5• 5 months ago

Which only reinforces someone just lit $60M on fire. It's trivial to do this and there are so many ways people do things, having the AI build custom for you is better than paying some VC funded platform to build something for the average

dude250711• 5 months ago

It extracts money from investors and allocates it to founders.

sp4cec0wb0y2• 5 months ago

This guy was the ex-ceo of GitHub and can't bother to communicate his product in a single announcement post?

ashtom12• 5 months ago

I am here. What did I not bother with? I wrote the blog post and it has all the details.

booleandilemma• 5 months ago

Wow, account from 2011 and just two comments, both on this article. Welcome, lurker, and good luck :)

sp4cec0wb0y2• 5 months ago

I am struggling to see what the details are other than high-level concepts. Perhaps a demo would be useful!

Hammershaft• 5 months ago

Hey, is JJ compatibility in the cards? Considering the blog article hints at a goal of a developerless agent-to-agent automation platform I'm guessing developer conveniences are a side quest rn?

otterley5• 5 months ago

You’ve described a technology, not a solution to a clearly articulated problem that customers actually have. The problem that you have described is vague, and it’s unclear that it’s actually a problem at all. Finally, you don’t provide a persuasive and concrete argument about how your eventual solution—whatever that may be—will solve it.

I don’t mean to be so presumptuous as to teach Grampa how to suck eggs, but I think Amazon’s working backwards process is instructive.

harladsinsteden• 5 months ago

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dang5• 5 months ago

Please don't cross into personal attack in HN comments.

You may not owe ex-Github-CEOs better, but you owe this community better if you're participating in it.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

asim• 5 months ago

Oh man I'm tired. This reminds me of the docker era. It's all moving fast. Everyone's raising money. And 24 months from now it's all consolidating. It's all a nice hype game when you raise the funding but the execution depends on people finding value in your products and tools. I would argue yes many of these things are useful but I'd also argue there's far too much overlap, too many unknowns and too many people trying to reinvent the whole process. And just like the container era I think we're going to see a real race to zero. Where most of the dev tools get open sourced and only a handful of product companies survive, if that. I want to wish everyone the best of luck because I myself have raised money and spent countless years building Dev tools. This is no easy task especially as the landscape is changing. I just think when you raise $60m and announce a cli. You're already dead, you just don't know it. I'm sorry.

dipree• 5 months ago

What if it's just the beginning of something bigger?

yifanl• 5 months ago

What if the earth exploded tomorrow? Who cares about what if.

giancarlostoro5• 5 months ago

With 60 million you could have waited for a bigger announcement? There's "AI fatigue" among the target market for these sorts of tools, advertising unfinished products will take its toll on you later.

yomismoaqui• 5 months ago

Let the cambrian explosion run its course but let's hope the meteorite doesn't kill us all.

eddythompson804• 5 months ago

I wouldn't wanna be in the rat race myself, but I know people who salivate at the opportunity to create some popular dev tool to get acquired by MS, Google or Amazon or whichever of the big tech companies that decide this could work well in their cloud ecosystem.

lopsidedfolly• 5 months ago

HNites are hilarious.

On the one hand they think these things provide 1337x productivity gains, can be run autonomously, and will one day lead to "the first 1 person billion dollar company".

And in complete cognitive dissonance also somehow still have fantasies of future 'acquisition' by their oppressors.

Why acquire your trash dev tool?

They'll just have the agents copy it. Hell, you could even outright steal it, because apparently laundering any licensing issues through LLMs short circuits the brains of judges to protohuman clacking rocks together levels.

giancarlostoro5• 5 months ago

I see the value since I built a similar tool different approach. Then there's Beads, which is what inspired my project, with some tens of thousands of developers using it or more now? I'm not sure how they figure how many users they have.

In my case I don't want my tools to assume git, my tools should work whether I open SVN, TFS, Git, or a zip file. It should also sync back into my 'human' tooling, which is what I do currently. Still working on it, but its also free, just like Beads.

haute_cuisine• 5 months ago

My first thought that it was made for companies which tie "AI usage" to performance evaluation.

FitchApps• 5 months ago

New agent framework / platform every week now. It's crazy how fast things move...just when you get comfortable with an AI flow something new comes out...

ImJasonH• 5 months ago

Checkpoints sounds like an interesting idea, and one I think we'll benefit from if they can make it useful.

I tried a similar(-ish) thing last year at https://github.com/imjasonh/cnotes (a Claude hook to write conversations to git notes) but ended up not getting much out of it. Making it integrated into the experience would have helped, I had a chrome extension to display it in the GitHub UI but even then just stopped using it eventually.

ramoz3• 5 months ago

Ah you were 7mo ahead of me doing the same and also coming to a similar conclusion. The idea holds value but in practice it isnt felt.

https://github.com/eqtylab/y

what2• 5 months ago

What are they actually “checkpointing”? Git already “checkpoints” your code and they can’t time travel your LLM conversation.

johnfn• 5 months ago

Cursor's Composer 2.0

There is no Composer 2.0. There is Cursor 2.0 and Composer 1.5.

stack_framer• 5 months ago

We went from having new JavaScript frameworks every week to having new AI frameworks every week. I'm thinking I should build a HN clone that filters out all posts about AI topics...

daliusd• 5 months ago

Create extension that does that. AI can do that for you in 10 minutes

jahsome• 5 months ago

I've long wished for a 'filter' feature for the hn feed -- namely the old trend of web3 slop -- but with little else than keywords to filter, it would likely be tedious and inaccurate. Ironically, I think with AI/LLMs it could be a little easier to analyze.

jtokoph2• 5 months ago

It’s one reason I hoped lobste.rs had taken off. All posts are tagged and you can filter out by tag.

chasd002• 5 months ago

one technique i've found useful is i don't click on the link if i'm not interested.

bitwize• 5 months ago

This is how software is being written now. What you propose is like joining a forum called "Small-Scale Manufacturing News" and filtering out all 3D-printing articles.

LtWorf2• 5 months ago

We want to filter out the irrelevant software :)

bonesss• 5 months ago

Looking at the most popular agent skills, heavily geared towards react and JS, I think a lot of the most breathless reports of LLM success are weighted towards the same group of fashion-dependant JavaScript developers.

The same very online group endlessly hyping messy techs and frontend JS frameworks, oblivious to the Facebook and Google sized mechanics driving said frameworks, are now 100x-ing themselves with things like “specs” and “tests” and dreaming big about type systems and compilers we’ve had for decades.

I don’t wanna say this cycle is us watching Node jockies discover systems programming in slow motion through LLMs, but it feels like that sometimes.

Aeolun4• 5 months ago

Ironically, using LLM’s for React is an exercise in pain, because they’re all trained on the lowest common denominator. So even Opus is constantly fighting stupid reactivity bugs.

vintermann• 5 months ago

You know the only effective way to do that, right?

malfist3• 5 months ago

Claude create a clone of Hacker News, no mistakes. Must compile.

cobolexpert• 5 months ago

Yep exactly, a Perl script

cyanydeez2• 5 months ago

Or, you could perform a public service by creating a HN clone only for bots and try to convince the bots trolling here to go there.

trevwilson• 5 months ago

That actually (sorta) already exists: https://news.ysimulator.run/news

Kuinox• 5 months ago

I'm interested to see if they will try to tackle the segregation of human vs AI code. The downside of agents is that they make too much changes to review, I prefer being able to track which changes I wrote or validated from the code the AI wrote.

gen220• 5 months ago

For people trying to understand the product (so far), it seems that entire is essentially an implementation of the idea documented by http://agent-trace.dev.

m-hodges• 5 months ago

There have been so many GitHub CEOs I was excited to find out which one.

ashtom12• 5 months ago

Only four: Chris, Tom, Nat, and Thomas. Last one is me. ;)

milar• 5 months ago

PJ was technically CEO for awhile when they needed someone to do it

krashidov2• 5 months ago

There is also Git AI: https://github.com/git-ai-project/git-ai https://usegitai.com/

addcn• 5 months ago

love the shout but git-ai is decidedly not trying to replace the SCMs. there are teams building code review tools (commercial and internal) on top of the standard and I don't think it'll be long before GitHub, GitLab and the usual suspects start supporting it since folks the community have already been hacking it into Chrome extensions - this one got play on HN last week https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46871473

krashidov2• 5 months ago

yep i know it's not meant to be an SCM tool but I thought it was somewhat related to what they're doing right now:

"Entire CLI hooks into your git workflow to capture AI agent sessions on every push."

Which is capturing the LLM convo along with the code (I could be wrong ofc)

CuriouslyC• 5 months ago

Just have a data lake with annotated agent sessions and tool blobs (you should already be keeping this stuff for evals), then give your agent the ability to query it. No need for a special platform, or SaaS.

As for SDLC, you can do some good automations if you're very opinionated, but people have diverse tastes in the way they want to work, so it becomes a market selection thing.

verdverm5• 5 months ago

This is the way

searls• 5 months ago

This feels a bit like when some Hubbers broke off to work on PlanetScale, except without the massively successful, proven-to-be-scalable open source tool to build off (Vitess).

If you're approaching this problem-space from the ground up, there are just so many fundamental problems to solve that it seems to me that no amount of money or quality of team can increase your likelihood of arriving at enough right answers to ensure success. Pulling off something like this vision in the current red-ocean market would require dozens of brilliant ideas and hundreds of correct bets.

rgxsh2• 5 months ago

The founder has only forked repositories on GitHub that are sort of light web development related.

His use of bombastic language in this announcement suggests that he has never personally worked on serious software. The deterioration of GitHub under his tenure is not confidence inspiring either, but that of course may have been dictated by Nadella.

If you are very generous, this is just another GitHub competitor dressed up in AI B.S. in order to get funding.

ashtom12• 5 months ago

Founder here. I built commercial insurance software for Windows 95 in the 1990s, driver assistant systems at Mercedes and at Bosch in the early 2000s, dozens of iPhone apps as contractor, a startup called HockeyApp (acquired by Microsoft), and various smaller projects, mostly in Ruby on Rails. And of course, when I left Microsoft & GitHub, 10 years of green boxes were removed from my GitHub profile.

LightBug12• 5 months ago

But ... what have you done lately?

(I jest ... kudos).

dang5• 5 months ago

Glad to see you commenting here despite the, er, unsubstantive disposition of some of the commenters! (I'm a mod here btw.) We really don't like it when the audience responds to new things with snark and dismissiveness, and there are rules in https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html to make that clear.

In this case I think the root problem is that the OP (https://entire.io/blog/hello-entire-world/) is the wrong genre for HN. It's a fine fundraising announcement, but that sort of enthusiastic general announcement rubs the HN audience the wrong way because what they really want is technical details. Spectacular non technical details like high valuations, etc., tend to accentuate this gap.

I mention this because if you or someone on your team wants to write a technical post about what you're building, with satisfying details and all that, then we could do a take 2 (whenever would be a good time for this).

keithba• 5 months ago

This comment is both wrong and mean-spirited.

I’ve worked with ashtom for over a decade. He’s a coding machine - easily one of the most technical executives (who ships real production code.)

dang5• 5 months ago

Personal attacks aren't allowed here, so I've banned the account. If you want to use HN as intended, you'd be welcome to review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and then email hn@ycombinator.com with a reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future.

ezekg2• 5 months ago

I don't see how we need a brand new paradigm just because LLMs evidently suck at sharing context in their Git commits. The rules for good commits still apply in The New Age. Git is still good enough, LLMs (i.e. their developer handlers) just need to leverage it.

Personally, I don't let LLMs commit directly. I git add -p and write my own commit messages -- with additional context where required -- because at the end of the day, I'm responsible for the code. If something's unclear or lacks context, it's my fault, not the robot's.

But I would like to see a better GitHub, so maybe they will end up there.

pmdr• 5 months ago

I really hate this trend of naming companies using dictionary words just because they can afford to spend cash on the domain name instead of engineering. Render, fly, modal, entire and so on.

codegeek• 5 months ago

"$60M Seed round"

I guess when you are Ex-Github CEO, it is that easy raising a $60M seed. I wonder what the record for a seed round is. This is crazy.

jordemort• 5 months ago

Wait, since when is Dohmke out? I thought this was gonna be Nat.

ashtom12• 5 months ago

I left August 11: https://github.blog/news-insights/company-news/goodbye-githu...

dcchambers2• 5 months ago

Really struggling to figure out what this is at a glance. Buried in the text is this line which I think is the tl;dr:

"As a result, every change can now be traced back not only to a diff, but to the reasoning that produced it."

This is a good idea, but I just don't see how you build an entire platform around this. This feels like a feature that should be added to GitHub. Something to see in the existing PR workflow. Why do I want to go to a separate developer platform to look at this information?

esafak• 5 months ago

Github sucks now, for one; people are looking for an alternative.

dcchambers2• 5 months ago

This is not an alternative to GitHub though. The code for this tool itself lives on GitHub!

https://github.com/entireio

chasd002• 5 months ago

I'm sure i'm missing something but can you not ask the llm to add the reasoning behind the commit in the comments as part of the general llm instructions?

svarlamov• 5 months ago

Looking at the CLI implementation. Why not build on top of jj?

verdverm5• 5 months ago

most people use git, jj has compatibility gaps

throwaw12• 5 months ago

Can someone please explain what is this?

I am already overloaded with information (generated by AI and humans) on my day to day job, why do I need this additional context, unless company I work for just wants to spend more money to store more slop?

How is it different than reversing it, given a PR -> generate prompt based on business context relevant to the repo or mentioned issues -> preserve it as part of PR description

I barely look at git commit history, why should I look for even higher cardinality data, in this case: WTF, are you doing, idiot, I said don't change the logic to make tests pass, I said properly write tests!

lloydatkinson• 5 months ago

Sounds very cringe

verdverm5• 5 months ago

Not surprising for a $60M seed round

Do we have new words for smaller amounts or is this inflation at work?

sanufar• 5 months ago

Huh, the checkpoint primitive is something that I've been thinking about for a while, excited to see how it's implemented in the CLI. Git-compatible structures seem to be a pretty big pull whenever they're talking about context management.

Fitik• 5 months ago

Really hope that unlike GitHub it'll be open source

rognjen2• 5 months ago

With a 60M seed? I doubt it.

LeoNatan25• 5 months ago

Grifters to the grift god

ontouchstart• 5 months ago

I miss the good old days:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=338286

dvfjsdhgfv• 5 months ago

I thought something got seriously wrong with Nat Friedman but fortunately it's another one.

rognjen2• 5 months ago

Highly dubious of this.

I see zero reason for a person to care about the checkpoints.

And for agents, full sessions just needlessly fill context.

So not sure what is being solved by this.

9999000009993• 5 months ago

I had a similar, admitted poorly thought out idea a few months back.

I wanted to more or less build Jira for agents and track the context there.

If I had to guess 60 million is just enough to build the POC out. I don't see how this can compete though, Open AI or Anthro could easily spin up a competitor internally.

jasondigitized• 5 months ago

Shouldn't this tool be agnostic to the models? Seems like a 3rd party is the way to go.

taude• 5 months ago

Isn't that basically what things like this are for, open source, free.... https://github.com/steveyegge/beads

handfuloflight• 5 months ago

If I had to guess 60 million is just enough to build the POC out.

You're kidding.

what2• 5 months ago

In what world do you need $60M to build a POC of whatever this is supposed to be?

gbnwl2• 5 months ago

You don't need to build anything. Just tell the agent to write tickets into .md files in a folder and move them to a closed foler as you go along. I've been using Claude Code with the Max plan nonstop essentially every day since last July and since then I've come to realize that the newer people are the more things they think they need to add to CC to get it work well.

Eventually you'll find a way that works for you that needs none of it, and if any piece of all the extras IS ever helpful, Anthropic adds it themselves within a month or two.

9999000009993• 5 months ago

I'm thinking a customized LLM would write notes in its own hyper compressed language which would allow it to be much much more efficient.

For debugging you could translate it out to English, but if these agents can do stuff without humans in the loop, why do they need to take notes in English?

I can't imagine creating this without hundreds of millions if not billions. I think the future is specialized models

lysace3• 5 months ago

List of Github CEOs:

1. Tom Preston-Werner (Co-founder). 2008 – 2014 (Out for, eh... look it up)

2. Chris Wanstrath (Co-founder). 2014 – 2018

(2018: Acquisition by Microsoft: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17227286)

3. Nat Friedman (Gnome/Ximian/Microsoft). 2018 – 2021

4. Thomas Dohmke (Founder of HockeyApp, some A/B testing thing, acquired by Microsoft in 2014). 2021 - 2025

There is no Github CEO now, it's just a team/org in Microsoft. (https://mrshu.github.io/github-statuses/)

ashtom12• 5 months ago

Chris was also CEO from 2008 to 2012. Tom had 2012 to 2014.

Nat's company Xamarin was acquired by Microsoft in 2016.

HockeyApp wasn't A/B testing, but a platform for iPhone, Mac, Android, and Windows Phone developers to distribute their beta version (like what TestFlight is today to the App Store), collect crash reports (like what Sentry is today), user feedback, and basic analytics for developers.

lysace3• 5 months ago

Thanks for the fact check :).

The Ximian thing I wrote from obviously faulty memory (I now wonder if it was influenced by early 2000s Miguel's bonobo obsession), the rest from various google searches. Should have gone deeper.

thom• 5 months ago

Either the models are good and this sort of platform gets swept away, or they aren’t, and this sort of platform gets swept away.

XorNot2• 5 months ago

The most interesting thing about everyone trying to position themselves as AI experts is the futility of it: the technology explicitly promises tomorrows models will be better then todays, which means the skill investment is deflationary: the best time to learn anything is tomorrow when a better model will be better at doing the same work - because you don't need to be (conversely if you're not good at debugging and reverse engineering now...)

frogperson• 5 months ago

You nailed it. Thats exactly how I feel. Wake me up when the dust settles, and i'll deep dive and learn all the ins and outs. The churn is just too exhausting.

SpaceManNabs• 5 months ago

I have a reading list of a bunch of papers i didn't get through over the past 2 years. it is crazy how many papers on this list are completely not talked about anymore.

I kinda regret going through the SeLU paper lol back in the late 2010s.

rgbrenner• 5 months ago

the best time to learn anything is tomorrow when a better model will be better at doing the same work

doesn’t that presume no value is being delivered by current models?

I can understand applying this logic to building a startup that solves today’s ai shortcomings… but value delivered today is still valuable even if it becomes more effective tomorrow.

ljm2• 5 months ago

I'm pretty much just rawdogging Claude Code and opencode and I haven't bothered setting up skills or MCPs except for one that talks to Jira and Confluence. I just don't see the point when I'm perfectly capable of writing a detailed prompt with all my expectations.

The problem is that so many of these things are AI instructing AI and my trust rating for vibe coded tools is zero. It's become a point of pride for the human to be taken out of the loop, and the one thing that isn't recorded is the transcript that produced the slop.

I mean, you have the creator of openclaw saying he doesn't read code at all, he just generates it. That is not software engineering or development, it's brogrammer trash.

IMTDb• 5 months ago

That’s true for “tips and tricks” knowledge like “which model is best today” or “tell the model you’ll get fired if the answer is wrong to increase accuracy” that pops up on Twitter/X. It’s fleeting, makes people feel like “experts”, and doesn’t age well.

On the other hand, deeply understanding how models work and where they fall short, how to set up, organize, and maintain context, and which tools and workflows support that tends to last much longer. When something like the “Ralph loop” blows up on social media (and dies just as fast), the interesting question is: what problem was it trying to solve, and how did it do it differently from alternatives? Thinking through those problems is like training a muscle, and that muscle stays useful even as the underlying technology evolves.

srcreigh• 5 months ago

the technology explicitly promises tomorrows models will be better then todays, which means the skill investment is deflationary

This is just wrong. A) It doesn’t promise improvement B) Even if it does improve, that doesn’t say anything about skill investment. Maybe its improvements amplify human skill just as they have so far.

heliumtera2• 5 months ago

They know hence: forget what it does, it was created by the ex CEO of another commonly used thingy!

hsbauauvhabzb• 5 months ago

But think of all the investor dollars between now and then!

BloondAndDoom• 5 months ago

This is very well put. I think this platform can be useful but I doubt it can be something as big as the think it will be. At the end of the day it’s just storing some info with your data. I guess they are trying to be the next GitHub (and clearly have the experience :)). I doubt that success can be replicated today with this idea, even with $60 mil to burn

direwolf202• 5 months ago

Either the business makes a profit before it gets swept away, or it doesn't. This should be your goal: make money before your business dies. If you do that, you succeeded. Businesses are always ephemeral.

iamleppert• 5 months ago

I don't want agent context tied to git commits. I just want infinite scroll in Claude Code and ability to search and review all my past conversations!

LowLevelKernel2• 5 months ago

I’m manually checking in Agent.md for every commit to improve the context window usage. Is that now automated?

gbasin• 5 months ago

you're doing what now?

LowLevelKernel2• 5 months ago

Aren’t you maintaining Agent.md file that documents the actual context?

ibejoeb6• 5 months ago

CLI to tie agent context into Git on every push.

Is this the product? I don't want to jump on the detractor wagon, but I read the post and watched the video, and all I gathered is that it dumps the context into the commit. I already do this.

causal• 5 months ago

Same thought. If anything I'm usually trying to find ways to reduce how much context is carried over.

ttoinou4• 5 months ago

Isnt this overloading git commits too much ? Like 50kb per commit message

ibejoeb6• 5 months ago

Git is totally fine keeping a few extra text files. These are ephemeral anyway. The working sessions just get squashed down and eliminated by the time I've got something worth saving anyway. At that point, I might keep a overview file around describing what the change does and how it was implemented.

(I will give the agent boom a bit of credit: I write a lot more documentation now, because it's essentially instruction and initial instruction to anything else that works on it. That's a total inversion, and I think it's good.)

The bigger problem is, like others have said, there's no one true flow. I use different agents for different things. I might summarize a lot of reasoning with a cheap model to create a design document, or use a higher reasoning model to sanity check a plan, whatever. It's a lot like programming in English. I don't want my tool to be prescriptive and imposing its technical restrictions on me.

All of that aside: it's impossible that this tool raised $60 million. The problem with this post is that it's supposed to be a hype post about changing the game "entirely" but it doesn't give us a glimpse into whatever we're supposed to by hyped about.

andyhedges• 5 months ago

I have it (claude, codex) summarise what we've discussed about a design, big change, put it in an MD file and then I correct it, have it re-read it and then do the change.

Then later if it goes off piste in another session tell it to re-read the ADDs for x, y and z.

If someone could make that process less clunky, that would be great. However it's very much not just funnel every turd uttered in the prompt onto a git branch and trying a chug the lot down every session.

ibejoeb6• 5 months ago

Pretty much the same thing. I don't find it to be a burden. Regarding the product, I'm willing to believe I just don't see big picture, but without some peek at the magic, I don't know how much easier this could really be.

duttish• 5 months ago

Very similar for me. I have a plans folder in my root where I store the plans while they're either under improvement or under implementation. Once they're done they're moved into the plans/old folder. So far it's worked great. It's a couple of manual steps extra but very helpful record.

mixologic• 5 months ago

what about using git notes to stash the summaries? (https://git-scm.com/docs/git-notes)

parhamn• 5 months ago

I already do this.

Hows your ability to get an enterprise to mandate their 5000 employees to use it? That's what most of these types of rounds are about.

ibejoeb6• 5 months ago

This doesn't appear to address that concern.

I guess if I had to do it, I'd reject pushes without the requisite commit to entire/checkpoints/v1. I think their storage strategy is a bit clunky for that, but it can be done. I might look to do something more like the way jujutsu colocates its metadata. I don't think this particular implementation detail makes too much of a difference, though. I got along just fine in a regulated environment by setting a policy and enforcing it before git existed. Ideally, we'd do things for a good reason, and if you can't get along in that world, then it's probably not the right job for you. Sometimes you've got to get the change controls in order before we can mainline your contributions because we have to sustain audits. I don't think this is about forcing people to do something that they otherwise wouldn't do if you told them that it's a requirement of the job.

ttul2• 5 months ago

100%. Day one is to ship the basic capability, which many of us have already vibe-coded... Day two is all the enterprise stuff to make big companies trust AI coding more. That could unlock a lot of revenue. This isn't random at all.

arealaccount• 5 months ago

Uuh easy fire them all and replace with said agents

romanovcode4• 5 months ago

This does not address it one bit. Everyone has to install it, authorize themselves with said GH repo etc.

And since you mentioned "enterprise", they won't be able to use it if they do not use GH, and a lot of enterprise cropos use azure devops.

Also there is no user management etc, if anything this is ANTI-enterprise.

mohsen1• 5 months ago

I am not willing to share my sheepish prompts with my team. Sorry!

ibejoeb6• 5 months ago

Hah. "If it's not too much trouble, would you mind if we disable the rimraf root feature?"

Gotta bully that thing man. There's probably room in the market for a local tool that strips the superfluous niceties from instructions. Probably gonna save a material amount of tokens in aggregate.

schaefer• 5 months ago

I'm with you. I start every new prompt with: "Good morning", even at midnight. I'll be so embarrassed if that leaks.

LightBug12• 5 months ago

LOL

singularfutur• 5 months ago

$60M seed to wrap git hooks in YAML config. The AI tooling bubble is just VCs subsidizing solutions looking for problems while developers want less complexity, not more.

aftergibson3• 5 months ago

Christ, a $60m seed round.

The AI fatigue is real, and the cooling-off period is going to hurt. We’re deep into concept overload now. Every week it’s another tool (don’t get me started on Gas Town) confidently claiming to solve… something. “Faster development”, apparently.

Unless you’re already ideologically committed to this space, I don’t see how the average engineer has the energy or motivation to even understand these tools, never mind meaningfully compare them. That’s before you factor in that many of them actively remove the parts of engineering people enjoy, while piling on yet another layer of abstraction, configuration, and cognitive load.

I’m so tired of being told we’re in yet another “paradigm shift”. Tools like Codex can be useful in small doses, but the moment it turns into a sprawling ecosystem of prompts, agents, workflows, and magical thinking, it stops feeling like leverage and starts feeling like self-inflicted complexity.

ttoinou4• 5 months ago

Maybe just learning 1 or 2 of such tools is enough ?

aftergibson3• 5 months ago

Probably, but which ones, do we get to a place where you have X years experience in Gastown development, but I only have Y years experience in Entire.

I also keep getting job applications for AI-native 'developers' whatever that means.

ReptileMan• 5 months ago

History has shown that by delaying learning the next greatest tech, you may avoid learning it altogether.

aspenmartin5• 5 months ago

Your point about the overwhelming proliferation of AI tools and not knowing which are worth any attention and which are trash is very true I feel that a lot today (my solution is basically to just lean into one or two and ask for recommendations on other tools with mixed success).

The “I’m so tired of being told we’re in another paradigm shift” comments are widely heard and upvoted on HN and are just so hard to comprehend today. They are not seeing the writing on the wall and following where the ball is going to be even in 6-12 months. We have scaling laws, multiple METR benchmarks, internal and external evals of a variety of flavors.

“Tools like codex can be useful in small doses” the best and most prestigious engineers I know inside and outside my company do not code virtually at all. I’m not one of them but I also do not code at all whatsoever. Agents are sufficiently powerful to justify and explain themselves and walk you through as much of the code as you want them to.

aftergibson3• 5 months ago

Yeah, I’m not disputing that AI-assisted engineering is a real shift. It obviously is.

My issue is that we’ve now got a million secondary “paradigm shifts” layered on top: agent frameworks, orchestration patterns, prompt DSLs, eval harnesses, routing, memory, tool calling, “autonomous” workflows… all presented like you’re behind if you’re not constantly replatforming your brain.

Even if the end-state is “engineers code less”, the near-term reality for most engineers is still: deliver software, support customers, handle incidents, and now also become competent evaluators of rapidly changing bot stacks. That cognitive tax is brutal.

So yes, follow where the ball is going. I am. I’m just not pretending the current proliferation is anything other than noisy and expensive to keep up with.

combyn8tor• 5 months ago

I don’t see how the average engineer has the energy or motivation to even understand these tools, never mind meaningfully compare them

This is why I use the copilot extension in VS code. They seem to just copy whatever useful thing climbs to the surface of the AI tool slop pile. Last week I loaded up and Opus 4.6 was there ready to use. Yesterday I found it has a new Claude tool built in which I used to do some refactoring... it worked fine. It's like having an AI tool curator.

ergocoder• 5 months ago

It's an ex-CEO of Github. He can raise $60m on any idea.

_el1s7• 5 months ago

Entire.io, the name is on point considering it asks for access to my entire GitHub account.

But seriously, $300M valuation for a CLI tool that adds some metadata to Git commits. I don't know what to say.

daredoes• 5 months ago

What's the long-term or even short-term strategy to make money?

It's not like $60m in funding was given as charity.

fakedang• 5 months ago

General purpose agentic AI for enterprises since apparently that's the hot shit for 2026 now.

raggi• 5 months ago

Which CEO?

AIorNot• 5 months ago

so github ci/cd agents rebranded as a startup? same team different company.

carshodev• 5 months ago

I don't understand how this is different from giving an agent access to github logs? The landing page is terrible at explaining what it does.I guess they are just storing context in git aswell?

So is this just a few context.md files that you tell the agent to update as you work and then push it when you are done???

XCSme• 5 months ago

All AI landing pages are so confusing, maybe because they are AI-built as well...

paodealho2• 5 months ago

Sorry for not contributing to the discussion (as per the guidelines), but is it just me or this blog post reads a lot like LLM-filled mumble jumble? Seems like I could trim half of the words there and nothing would be lost.

rippeltippel• 5 months ago

Agents can save their reasoning into markdown files, and commit those files to Git. Are "Checkpoints" just a marketing term for that, or there's more to it?

reubenmorais• 5 months ago

Claude Code already does this, you can access it with /resume, /rewind and /fork. I'd imagine building a version that saves in the repo instead of in the home folder would take very minimal effort.

SkyPuncher2• 5 months ago

This is about doing it seamlessly and flawlessly then sharing it across a team.

ElFitz2• 5 months ago

So using something like the compound engineering plugin and committing its "brainstorms", plans, and "solutions"?

dworks2• 5 months ago

I built a skill for this: https://github.com/doubleuuser/rlm-workflow

The readme is a bit more to the point.

suralind• 5 months ago

$300kk valuation for git commits :) the bubble will pop at some point, I don’t know when, but boy will it be spectacular.

ajbajb• 5 months ago

I did test it and use it and trashed it because there is very little value, actually none for me. These problems are easily being solved in other ways whoever has any experience with these tools. Getting $60M round for this stuff is ridiculous.

heliumtera2• 5 months ago

The lack of explanation of what it is and does is a tell of what gullible audience they are seeking.

Tech marketing has become a lot like dating, no technical explanation and intellectual honesty, just word words words and unreasonable expectations.

People usually cannot be honest in their romantic affairs, and here it is the same. Nobody can state: we just want to be between you and whatever you want to accomplish, rent seeking forever!

Will they ever care to elaborate HOW things works and the rationale behind stating this provides any benefit whatsoever? Perhaps this is not intended for those type of humans that care about understanding and logic?

rglover2• 5 months ago

No, because the goal isn't to make things work. The goal is to make money by appearing to make things work. People who actually know don't tend to take ridiculous sums of money just to go tinker for a few years—they just build the damn thing and move on. The game here is perception and money—not necessarily competent engineering or legible products.

zwaps• 5 months ago

I shall give the benefit of a doubt given they are "building in the open". I feel my current setup already does all this though, so I struggle to see the point

ElFitz2• 5 months ago

It’s funny. The whole “review intent", "learning" from past mistakes, etc, is exactly what my current set up does too. For free. Using .md files said agents generate as they go.

delduca• 5 months ago

I bet it will down/unstable 3/4 of the month.

jpease• 5 months ago

Clicks through to see what Tom or Chris started…

Oh, nevermind, it’s some MS dude.

rnewme• 5 months ago

Ironically, I was shortly contracting on PoC similar to this for ex github cofunder around this time last year.

brandall10• 5 months ago

60 million SEED round? This is really a thing now?

crondee• 5 months ago

Take a look at the 500M seed round next :)

ryukoposting• 5 months ago

Hey, they said AI was 100x right?

beoberha2• 5 months ago

Ignoring the VC economics and awful name, I won’t be as pessimistic as everyone. I see the vision.

That said, nobody knows what the AI future looks like. Entire’s entire thesis is a solution for something we don’t even know we need. It’s a massive bet and uphill battle. Traditionally, dev tool success stories come from grassroots projects of developers solving their own problems and not massive VC funded efforts that tell you what you need to do.

ttul2• 5 months ago

And yet, this is precisely what seed bets are about. You have to try it in order to know whether there is a "there" there.

ushakov• 5 months ago

$1.5M seed bets, maybe. not $60M though

ryan_n• 5 months ago

I feel like it says a lot if this is the not pessimistic take.

beoberha2• 5 months ago

My pessimism is mostly rooted in the VC economics of it all. The vision is great, but its a busy space and there's no actual product or business. They basically wrote the guy a check to build the spaceship in space.

alansaber2• 5 months ago

I actually feel like the LLM-driven AI future is relatively forseeable. It's only if we get a new, cooler architecture that we'll see a fundamental change to what we've kind of known for a while now

mahmoudimus• 5 months ago

I see the vision here. I think this is extremely needed.

straydusk• 5 months ago

Checkpoints are a new primitive that automatically captures agent context as first-class, versioned data in Git. When you commit code generated by an agent, Checkpoints capture the full session alongside the commit: the transcript, prompts, files touched, token usage, tool calls and more.

This thread is extremely negative - if you can't see the value in this, I don't know what to tell you.

hoten• 5 months ago

I see the utility in this as an extension to git / source control. But how do VCs make money of it?

konaraddi• 5 months ago

100% agree because there’s a lot of value in understanding how and why past code was written. It can be used to make better decisions faster around code to write in the future.

E.g., if you’ve ever wondered why code was written in a particular way X instead of Y then you’ll have the context to understand whether X is still relevant or if Y can be adopted.

E.g., easier to prompt AI to write the next commit when it knows all the context behind the current/previous commit’s development process.

majormajor• 5 months ago

I wonder. How often will that context actually be that valuable vs just more bloat to fill up future API calls with to burn tokens.

buster• 5 months ago

But that's not what is in the whole context. The whole context contains a lot of noise and false "thoughts". What the AI needs to do is to document the software project in an efficient manner without duplication. That's not what this tool is doing. I question the value in storing all the crap in git.

nialv7• 5 months ago

Sure... you `git add` the context text generated by AI and `git commit` it, could be useful. Is that worth 60 million?

Klonoar• 5 months ago

It’s good to know that a few decades later the same generic Dropbox-weekend take can be made.

UqWBcuFx6NV4r• 5 months ago

I love this one so much! The arbitrary decision to cherry-pick critique a particular product to this degree, when it’s something that could be said about 99% of the stuff SV churns out, including in all likelihood anything you’ve ever worked on.

paulddraper• 5 months ago

That is their first feature.

If it were also their last, I would be inclined to agree.

androiddrew• 5 months ago

They raised 60 million. The investors think it’s worth 600M+

buildbuildbuild• 5 months ago

The unannounced web collaboration platform in-progress might be.

sailfast• 5 months ago

300 million, apparently.

anonzzzies• 5 months ago

We have had this for ages now.... I just don't have access to the sort of people willing to pass me 60m for that. I never thought it to be worth anything really ; it was a trivial to implement afterthought.

Aperocky• 5 months ago

Discord is not prized because you can send a message to a chatroom, or any of the hooks and functions.

It's because of everybody there.

Currently no one is on Entire - the investor are betting they will be.

surfinganalyst• 5 months ago

Couldn't we capture this value with a git hook?

guiambros• 5 months ago

It's funny how HN'ers frequently judge ideas based on complexity of implementation, not value.

I still remember the reaction when Dropbox was created: "It's just file sharing; I can build my own with FTP. What value could it possibly create".

sellmesoap• 5 months ago

Well a famous name is attached, could be the start of the product that replaces github, building github2 would give oppertunity to fix mistakes that are too entrenched to change at github, and who better to try? I'm uncharacteristically optimistic on this one, I'd give it a try!

soulofmischief2• 5 months ago

I built out the same thing in my own custom software forge. Every single part of the collaborative development process is memoized.

stitched2gethr4• 5 months ago

And how are you using it now? Have you seen real value weeks or months on?

dpweb• 5 months ago

I know about "the entire developer world has been refactored" and all, but what exactly does this thing do?

Runs git checkpoint every time an agent makes changes?

bergheim• 5 months ago

A year ago I added memory to my Emacs helper [0]. It was just lines in org-mode. I thought it was so stupid. It worked though. Sort of.

That's how a trillion dollar company also does it, turns out.

0: https://github.com/karthink/gptel

Aeolun4• 5 months ago

This is literally what claude code already does minus the commit attachment. It’s just very fancy marketing speak for the exact same thing.

I’m happy to believe maybe they’ll make something useful with 60M (quite a lot for a seed round though), but Maybe not get all lyrical about what they have now.

sothatsit• 5 months ago

Claude Code captures this locally, not in version control alongside commits.

bmurphy1976• 5 months ago

I haven't read the article yet but this conversation reminds me of Docker. Lots of people "didn't get it." I told them at the time: if you don't get it you aren't ready for it yet so don't worry about it. When you do need it, you'll get it and then you'll use it and never look back. Look at where we are with containers now.

darkwater• 5 months ago

And look where Docker Inc is now (which is one of the points some critics are making)

vrosas• 5 months ago

ehhhh is it really that useful though? Sounds way more noisy than anything, and a great way to burn through tokens. It's like founding a startup to solve the problem of people squashing their commits. Also, it sounds like something Claude Code/Codex/etc could quickly add an extension for.

weird-eye-issue• 5 months ago

How would this use any extra tokens? Just seems like it's serializing the existing context

tbrownaw3• 5 months ago

[flagged]

MrDarcy• 5 months ago

Look it’s obvious at this point to anyone who is actually using the tools.

We can articulate it but why should we bother when it’s so obvious.

We are at an inflection point where discussion about this, even on HN, is useless until the people in the conversation are on a similar level again. Until then we have a very large gap in a bimodal distribution, and it’s fruitless to talk to the other population.

dang5• 5 months ago

Please don't use quotation marks to make it look like you're quoting someone when you aren't. That's an internet snark trope and we're trying to avoid those on HN.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

toraway3• 5 months ago

What kind of barrier/moat/network effects/etc would prevent someone with a Claude Code subscription from replicating whatever "innovation" is so uniquely valuable here?

It's somewhat strange to regularly read HN threads confidently asserting that the cost of software is trending towards zero and software engineering as a profession is dead, but also that an AI dev tool that basically hooks onto Git/Claude Code/terminal session history is worth multiples of $60+ million dollars.

elif2• 5 months ago

The same moat that git had on svn, a better mental paradigm over the same fundamental system, more suited to how SWE changed over a decade.

YetAnotherNick2• 5 months ago

HN threads confidently asserting

I have never seen any thread that unanimously asserts this. Even if they do, having HN/reddit asserting something as evidence is wrong way to look at things.

jameslk• 5 months ago

What kind of barrier/moat/network effects/etc would prevent someone with a Claude Code subscription from replicating whatever "innovation" is so uniquely valuable here?

You are correct, that isn't the moat. Writing the software is the easy part

psandor• 5 months ago

If they had wanted a moat for this part of their offering, they wouldn’t have open-sourced it.

This is not their offering, this is a tool to raise interest.

ryanjshaw• 5 months ago

This comment feels word-for-word the legendary DropBox critique on HN.

cush• 5 months ago

There's no way this company is just a few git and claude hooks with a CLI. They're definitely working on a SASS - something else that isn't open source that this primitive is the basis of. Like a GitHub for agent code

raincole2• 5 months ago

GitHub doesn't have a "moat" either besides network effect. Just like most SaaS.

And it was sold to Microsoft at $7B.

pipes• 5 months ago

I sort of agree with you. But the sentiment reminds me of the hacker news dropbox launch response. Which was pretty much

"pfft! I could set all this up myself with a NAS xyz".

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863

everforward• 5 months ago

There’s a difference between “this concept has value” and “a company can capture that value”.

I do see value in this, but like you I think it’s too trivial to implement to capture the value unless they can get some kind of lead on a model that can consume these artifacts more effectively. It feels like something Anthropic will have in Claude Code in a month.

throw10920• 5 months ago

Maybe use critical thinking instead of a mindless dismissal?

The fact that you aren't haven't offered a single counterargument to any other posters' points and have to resort to pearl-clutching is pretty good proof that you can't actually respond to any points and are just emotionally lashing out.

lubujackson• 5 months ago

Wow, read through the comments and you weren't joking. I attribute this to crossroads of "this release is v0.1 of what we are building" and the HN crowd who have been scrolling past 120 AI frameworks and hot takes daily and have no patience for anything that isn't immediately 100% useful to them in the moment.

I find the framing of the problem to be very accurate, which is very encouraging. People saying "I can roll my own in a weekend" might be right, but they don't have $60M in the bank, which makes all the difference.

My take is this product is getting released right now because they need the data to build on. The raw data is the thing, then they can crunch numbers and build some analysis to produce dynamic context, possibly using shared patterns across repos.

Despite what HN thinks, $60M doesn't just fall in your lap without a clear plan. The moat is the trust people will have to upload their data, not the code that runs it. I expect to see some interesting things from this in the coming months.

vasachi• 5 months ago

Didn’t Juicero get more than a $100M? Do you think they had a clear plan? How much did Rome get? Did they have a clear plan?

vardalab• 5 months ago

For the last three or four months, what I've been doing is anytime I have Claude write a comment on an issue, it just adds a session ID, file path and the VM it is on. That way, whenever we have some stuff that comes up, we just search through issues and then we can also retrace the session that produced the work and it's all traceable. In general, I just work through gitea issues and sometimes beads. I couldn't stand having all these MD files in my repo because I was just drowning in documentation, so having it in issues has been working really nicely and agents know how to work with issues. I did have it write a gitea utility and they are pretty happy using/abusing it. Anytime I see that they call it in some way that generates errors, I just have them improve the utility. And by this point, it pretty much always works. It's been really nice.

bambax• 5 months ago

I currently develop small utilities with the help of AI, but am far from vibe coding or using agents. I review every single suggestion and do some refactoring at each step, before any commit (sometimes heavy refactoring; sometimes reorganizing everything).

In my experience LLMs tend to touch everything all of the time and don't naturally think about simplification, centralization and separation of concerns. They don't care about structure, they're all over the place. One needs to breathe on their shoulders to produce anything organized.

Maybe there's a way to give them more autonomy by writing the whole program in pseudo-code with just function signatures and let them flesh it out. I haven't tried that yet but it may be interesting.

frumiousirc• 5 months ago

Yours matches my own experience and work habits.

My mental model is that LLMs are obedient but lazy. The laziness shows in the output matching the letter of the prompt but with as high "code entropy" as possible.

What I mean by "code entropy" is, for example, copy-paste-tweak (high entropy) is always easier (on the short term) for LLMs (and humans) to output than defining a function to hold concepts common across the pastes with the "tweak" represented by function arguments.

LLMs will produce high entropy output unless constrained to produce lower entropy ("better") code.

Until/unless LLMs are trained to actually apply craft learned by experienced humans, we must be explicit in our prompts.

For example, I get good results from say Claude Sonnnet when my instruction include:

- Statements of specific file, class, function names to use.

- Explicit design patterns to apply. ("loop over the outer product of lists of choices for each category")

- Implementation hints ("use itertools.product() to iterate over the combinations")

- And, "ask questions if you are uncertain" helps trigger an iteration to quickly clarify something instead of fixing the resulting code.

This specificity makes prompting a lot more work but it pays off. I only go this far when I care about the resulting code. And, I still often "retouch" as you also describe.

OTOH, when I'm vibing I'll just give end goals and let the slop flow.

matsemann• 5 months ago

if you can't see the value in this, I don't know what to tell you.

You could perhaps start by telling what value you see in this? And what this company does that someone can't easily do themselves while committing to GH?

benterix2• 5 months ago

. This thread is extremely negative - if you can't see the value in this, I don't know what to tell you.

It's almost a meme: whenever a commercial product is criticized on HN, a prominent thread is started with a classic tone-policing "why are you guys so negative".

(Well, we explained why: their moat is trivial to replicate.)

rafaelmn• 5 months ago

Is that sarcasm ? Dump a bunch of JSON from llm proxy and commit it ? Sounds like billion dollar secret sauce to me.

whh2• 5 months ago

I'm trying it out now. If it works, I think it'd be great for my agentic workflows where I need to figure out why something was done a specific way.

I have a lot of concurrent agents working on things at the same time, so I'm not always sure why a piece of code is the way it is months later.

whh2• 5 months ago

I've used it for a couple of hours. A few observations:

- It's nice to see conversation context alongside the change itself. - I wasn't able to see Claude Code utilise past commit context in understanding code. - It's a tad unclear (and possible unreliable) in what is called 'checkpointing'. - It mucked up my commit messages by replacing the first line with a sort of AI request title or similar.

Sadly, because of the last point (we use semantic release and git-cz) I've had to uninstall it.

mikodin• 5 months ago

I've found immense value in this, am already doing it with Pi(https://github.com/badlogic/pi-mono) and it's very easy to replicate

hansmayer• 5 months ago

This thread is extremely negative - if you can't see the value in this, I don't know what to tell you.

This sounds a lot like that line from Microsoft's AI CEO "not understanding the negativity towards AI". And Satya instructing us to not use the term "slop" any more. Yes we don't see value in taking a git primitive like "commit" and renaming it to "checkpoint". I wonder whether the branches going to be renamed to something like "parallel history" :)

soerxpso2• 5 months ago

Do you mean the value in this specific tool, or in the concept? You don't need a dedicated tool to store agent session transcripts and link them to commits. This can be accomplished by a 10-line bash script.

JPKab• 5 months ago

The most active HNers are just extremely negative on AI. I understand the impulse (you spend years honing your craft, and then something comes along and automates major portions of it) but it's driven by emotion and ego-defense and those engaged in it simply don't recognize what's motivating them. Their ego-defense is actually self-fulfilling, because they don't even try to properly learn how to leverage LLMs for coding so they give it a huge task they want it to fail on, don't properly break it into tasks, and then say "i told you it sucks" when it fails to one shot it.

lgrapenthin• 5 months ago

The negativity is driven by outrageous claims how AIs will replace programmers, or how english is the PL of the future. T

BoorishBears• 5 months ago

Even this response shows why the most active ones are outwardly negative on AI.

I use AI a ton, but there are just way too many grifters right now, and their favorite refrain is to dismiss any amount of negativity with "oh you're just mad/scared/jealous/etc. it replaces you".

But people who actually build things don't talk like that, grifters do. You ask them what they've built before and after the current LLM takeoff and it's crickets or slop. Like the Inglourious Basterds fingers meme.

There's no way that someone complaining about coding agents not being there yet, can't simultaneously be someone who'd look forward to a day they could just will things into existence because it's not actually about what AI might build for them: it's about "line will go up and I've attached myself to the line like a barnacle, so I must proselytize everyone into joining me in pushing the line ever higher up"

These people have no understanding of what's happening, but they invent one completely divorced from any reality other than the reality them and their ilk have projected into thin air via clout.

It looks like mental illness and hoarding Mac Minis and it's distasteful to people who know better, especially since their nonsense is so overwhelmingly loud and noisy and starts to drown out any actual signal.

tflinton• 5 months ago

How does this differ from what Github Copilot does when writing its .github/copilot-instructions.md? That doesn't keep the transcript or prompts, but it does keep quite a bit of the context and a declarative state of the decisions/design considerations made so another AI bot can pickup and have enough context to understand the rationale. I'm also not really convinced that any AI agent wouldn't still parse the code to understand more about the context vs. just using the checkpoint.

abustamam2• 5 months ago

I think this is neat; in fact, I orchestrated my AI agents to do something similar (keep a log of files touched and why). And I have agents refer to the work log as well when they are unclear on why something exists.

It's not 1:1 with checkpoints, but I find such things to be useful.

agnosticmantis• 5 months ago

Checkpoints are a new primitive that automatically captures agent context as first-class, versioned data in Git. When you commit code generated by an agent, Checkpoints capture the full session alongside the commit: the transcript, prompts, files touched, token usage, tool calls and more.

Whether or not useful for agent collaboration, the data here will be more valuable than gold for doing RL training later on.

CosmicShadow• 5 months ago

This sounds like a company idea someone just came up with yesterday off the cuff, pitched it, and got money for because of their credentials so no one can really say no to investing in it, despite nothing new or different? What's the service or product and how is it different than every 3rd Show HN?

imagetic• 5 months ago

Shoulda launched a new chat protocol to replace discord.

xrd• 5 months ago

This feels interesting because the real problem with AI generated code isn't that it is of better or worse quality than code written by a human, it's that we humans need to audit both types of code. And this platform feels like it addresses this in a novel and traditional way. I like it.

jwpapi• 5 months ago

I’m team Geoffrey Huntley

guydi77• 5 months ago

Already at a $300 million valuation at seed. Who’s going to join this as a regular IC who gets a pittance in options? I can’t imagine the risk matches the modest potential upside.

falloutx• 5 months ago

They'll hire one guy to vibe code like ai.com thing

popcorncowboy• 5 months ago

They'll raise at double that or more before the end of the year. The dynamics of the VC market right now are staggering to watch, but the money velocity is real, and this has "ex-CEO of Github" plus "AI".

It's legit mania in VC world even as they're looking at each going "is this mania? Is it mania if you're asking if it's mania". The only rule right now is the music is playing so no-one wants to grab a chair. There's a sense this might come crashing down, but what's a player gonna do, sit on the side while paper markups are producing IRR that is practically unprecedented?

This kinda has to end badly at this point.

cheema332• 5 months ago

this has "ex-CEO of Github" plus "AI".

If they could top it off by stealing a janitor from OpenAI or Anthropic, the VCs might wet their pants with excitement.

williamstein• 5 months ago

Checkpoints run as a Git-aware CLI. On every commit generated by an agent, it writes a structured checkpoint object and associates it with the commit SHA. The code stays exactly the same, we just add context as first-class metadata. When you push your commit, Checkpoints also pushes this metadata to a separate branch (entire/checkpoints/v1), giving you a complete, append-only audit log inside your repository. As a result, every change can now be traced back not only to a diff, but to the reasoning that produced it.

The context for every single turn could in theory be nearly 1MB. Since this context is being stored in the repo and constantly changing, after a thousand turns, won't it make just doing a "git checkout" start to be really heavy?

For example, codex-cli stores every single context for a given session in a jsonl file (in .codex). I've easily got that file to hit 4 GB in size, just working for a few days; amusingly, codex-cli would then take many GB of RAM at startup. I ended up writing a script that trims the jsonl history automatically periodically. The latest codex-cli has an optional sqlite store for context state.

My guess is that by "context", Checkpoints doesn't actually mean the contents of the context window, but just distilled reasoning traces, which are more manageable... but still can be pretty large.

otterley5• 5 months ago

To add to your comment, I think the next logical question is, “then what?” Surely one can’t build a sustainable business storing these records alone.

snemvalts2• 5 months ago

MCP server with RAG to feed it back to agents when they are working on a piece of code, and bob's your uncle

jiveturkey2• 5 months ago

won't it make just doing a "git checkout" start to be really heavy?

not really? doesn't git checkout only retrieve the current branch? the checkpoint data is in another branch.

we can presume that the tooling for this doesn't expect you to manage the checkpoint branch directly. each checkpoint object is associated with a commit sha (in your working branch, master or whatever). the tooling presumably would just make sure you have the checkpoints for the nearby (in history) commit sha's, and system prompt for the agent will help it do its thing.

i mean all that is trivial. not worth a $60MM investment.

i suspect what is really going on is that the context makes it back to the origin server. this allows _cloud_ agents, independent of your local claude session, to pick up the context. or for developer-to-developer handoff with full context. or to pick up context from a feature branch (as you switch across branches rapidly) later, easily. yes? you'll have to excuse me, i'm not well informed on how LLM coding agents actually work in that way (where the context is kept, how easy it is to pick it back up again). this is just a bit of opining based on why this is worth 20% of $300MM.

if i look at https://chunkhound.github.io it makes me think entire is a version of that. they'll add an MCP server and you won't have to think about it.

finally, because there is a commit sha association for each checkpoint, i would be worried that history rewrites or force pushes MUST use the tooling otherwise you'd end up screwing up the historical context badly.

nihonde3• 5 months ago

Feature plans generated by agents are often transient documents that fall away once the plan is executed. Ideally, that artifact would be preserved alongside the implementation.

My experience is that Cursor's reliance on VS Code's clunky panel-based UI and jack-of-all-trades harness is holding it back. Likewise, Claude Code shoe-horning a GUI into a TUI and perma-binding to a single model family is not the ideal end-state.

The VC play here? The git context CLI thing is a foundational step that lays the groundwork for a full IDE/workflow tool, I guess.

baby2• 5 months ago

Why do you want to preserve that artifact?

nihonde3• 5 months ago

If you don't have a record of questions asked/answered and rationale for decisions taken, I've noticed it's easy for subsequent feature plans to clash. Maintaining a line of consistency across each feature plan is a good thing.

woah• 5 months ago

I have an agent write a file with this template each run:

```markdown # Run NNNN

## First Impressions [What state is the project in? What did the last agent leave?]

## Plan [What will you work on this iteration? Why?]

## Work Log [Fill this in as you work]

## Discoveries [What did you learn? What surprised you? What should the next agent know?]

## Summary [Fill this in before committing] ```

This is surprisingly effective and lets agents easily continue in progress work and understand past decisions.

Aeolun4• 5 months ago

I have CURRENT_TASK.md that does more or less the same thing. It also gets committed to git. So I guess that’s entire? Wish I’d realized I was sitting on a 60M idea…

willmarquis• 5 months ago

The thread is missing the forest for the trees. The interesting bet here isn't git checkpoints—it's that someone is finally building the observability layer for agent-generated code.

Most agent frameworks (LangChain, Swarm, etc.) obsessed over orchestration. But the actual pain point isn't "how do I chain prompts"—it's "what did the agent do, why, and how do I audit/reproduce it?"

The markdown-files-in-git crowd is right that simple approaches work. But they work at small scale. Once you have multiple agents across multiple sessions generating code in production, you hit the same observability problems every other distributed system hits: tracing, attribution, debugging failures across runs.

The $60M question is whether that problem is big enough to justify a platform vs. teams bolting on their own logging. I'm skeptical—but the underlying insight (agent observability > agent orchestration) seems directionally correct.

baggy_trough• 5 months ago

It's not this, it's that?

jascha_eng• 5 months ago

verbatim llm output with little substance to it. HN mods don't want us to be negative but if this is what we have to take serious these days it is hard to say anything else.

I guess I could not comment at all but that feels like just letting the platform sink into the slopacolypse?

paodealho2• 5 months ago

Yes—it is!

RiverCrochet• 5 months ago

A. B isn't C—it's D1.

E. But F, G: H1, H2...

I. J—but D2 seems K.

Aeolun4• 5 months ago

Ok, I’ll grant you that if they can get agents to somehow connect to other’s reasoning in realtime that would be useful. Right now it’s me that has to play reasoning container.

doctoboggan3• 5 months ago

@dang with the launch of open claw I have seen so much more LLM slop comments. I know meta comments like mine aren't usually encouraged, but I think we need to do something about this as a community. Is there anything we can do? (either ban or at least requiring full disclosure for bot comments would be nice).

EDIT: I suspect the current "solution" is to just downvote (which I do!), but I think people who don't chat with LLMs daily might not recognize their telltale signs so I often see them highly upvoted.

Maybe that means people want LLM comments here, but it severely changes the tone and vibe of this site and I would like to at least have the community make that choice consciously rather than just slowly slide into the slop era.

sebmellen2• 5 months ago

It's the dead internet theory in action. Every time I see slop I comment on it. I've found people don't always like it when you comment on it.

Zacharias030• 5 months ago

Parent comment has the rhythm of an AI comment. Caught myself not realizing it until you mentioned it. Seems like I am more in tune with LLM slop on twitter, which is usually much worse. But on second sight it's clear and it also shows the comment as having no stance, and very generic.

@dang I would welcome a small secondary button that one can vote on to community-driven mark a comment as AI, just so we know.

ijidak• 5 months ago

Nothing about the parent comment suggests AI, except the em dash, but that's just a regular old punctuation that predates AI.

gabriel-uribe• 5 months ago

The moltbook-ification of every online forum seems inevitable this year. I wish we had a counter to this.

fblp• 5 months ago

Thank you for pointing this out. I didn't catch that the parent comment was ai either and upvoted it. Changed it to a downvote seeing your comment and realizing it the comment did indeed have many AI flags.

kristianc• 5 months ago

Once you have multiple agents across multiple sessions generating code in production, you hit the same observability problems every other distributed system hits: tracing, attribution, debugging failures across runs.

This has been the story for every trend empowering developers since year dot. Look back and you can find exactly the same said about CD, public cloud, containers, the works. The 'orchestration' (read compliance) layers always get routed around. Always.

slopbrain• 5 months ago

You're absolutely right! It's not the tooling, it's the platform.

tjlanmp• 5 months ago

That is a sharp observation———it is the observability that matters! The question arises: Who observes the observers? Would you like me to create MetaEntire.ai———an agentic platform that observes Entire.io?

zack6849• 5 months ago

I think you need a few more em-dashes there to be safe

SirensOfTitan• 5 months ago

This sounds awfully like an LLM generated comment.

I suppose it was just a matter of time before this kind of slop started taking over HN.

kaicianflone• 5 months ago

This is interesting. I’m experimenting with something adjacent in an open source plugin, but focused less on orchestration and more on decision quality.

Instead of just wiring agents together, I require stake and structured review around outputs. The idea is simple: coordination without cost trends toward noise.

Curious how entire.io thinks about incentives and failure modes as systems scale.

rockwotj• 5 months ago

I thought everyone was just using open telemetry traces for this? This is just a classic observability problem that isn’t unique with agents. More important yes, but not unique functionally.

loveparade• 5 months ago

Can you explain more how otel traces solve this problem? I don't understand how it's related.

backbay-machine• 5 months ago

Wholeheartedly agree. We have been working hard at a solution towards this and welcome any feedback and skepticism: https://github.com/backbay-labs/clawdstrike

brunoborges• 5 months ago

I think we need an Agent EE Server Platform. :P

clvx• 5 months ago

This sounds like Spark with extra steps. If I’m not mistaken, some version of Spark had a feature to jump on different iterations of your prompts.

resters• 5 months ago

I think the moat depends on how long it takes for an agent to ingest the entire commit history and product documentation into context on the fly. At the rate models are improving, seeing the reasoning chain of an outdated model that led to a commit that warrants post-hoc review (likely becuase of a bug) would mainly be useful for root cause analysis more than for insight into what to do next... but chances are the newer model would have been able to infer it from local context anyway.

It also creates a challenge with respect with the embedding model chosen and how future proof it turns out to be.

cstever• 5 months ago

With the how AI companies are advertising we can just tell the AI what we want and it will be done with no additional human interaction needed, why do we need a new type of development platform? We shouldn't need to collaborate at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJUuJtGgkQg

* This is snarky. Yes. But seriously.

rglover2• 5 months ago

The why is simple: "because we need the money." The idea is just a vehicle to get that money. Whether or not it works or makes sense is secondary to but does it make the children dream, pa-pa?

bfung• 5 months ago

`/init` is good enough.

Model improvements will take care of the rest.

ef2k• 5 months ago

I landed on a similar vision last year. The more I thought about it, the moat felt fragile. GitHub or GitLab could build the same capabilities and become a natural extension of what teams already use. That said, it addresses a real problem, and the SDLC needs to evolve.

btucker2• 5 months ago

I hacked together something similar to the concept they describe a few months ago (https://github.com/btucker/agentgit) and then ended up not actually finding it that useful and abandoning it.

redhale3• 5 months ago

I feel like the value would be in analyzing those rich traces with another agent to extract (failure) patterns and learnings, as part of a flywheel setup. As a human I would rarely if ever want to look at this -- I don't even have time to look at the final code itself!

btucker2• 5 months ago

Completely agree. But I wonder how much of that is just accomplished with well placed code comments that explain the why for future agent interactions to prevent them from misunderstanding. I have something like this in my AGENTS.md.

stitched2gethr4• 5 months ago

Try running `/insights` with Claude Code.

cheema332• 5 months ago

value would be in analyzing those rich traces with another agent to extract (failure) patterns and learnings

Claude Code supports hooks. This allows me to run an agent skill at the end of every agent execution to automatically determine if there were any lessons worth learning from the last session. If there were. new agent skills are automatically created or existing ones automatically updated as apporpriate.

theptip• 5 months ago

I like the concept, but it seems like an obvious extension of where Anthropic is building with Tasks and Memory. What’s the moat? Cross-agent compatibility?

zhyder• 5 months ago

Hmm the whole point of checkpoints seems to be to reduce token waste by saving repeat thinking work. But wouldn't trying to pull N checkpoints into context of the N+1 task be MUCH more expensive? It's at odds with the current practice of clearing context regularly to save on input tokens. Even subagents (which I think are the real superpower that Claude Code has over Gemini CLI for now) by their nature get spawned with fresh near-empty context.

Token costs aside, arguably fresh context is also better at problem solving. When it was just me coding by hand, I didn't save all my intermediate thinking work anywhere: instead thinking afresh when a similar problem came up later helped in coming up with better solutions. I did occasionally save my thinking in design docs, but the equivalent to that is CLAUDE.md and similar human-reviewed markdown saved at explicit -umm- checkpoints.

xmcqdpt2• 5 months ago

Yes I also don't see how having persistent context would help. For one, I don't want to read the slop the AI produced while it wrote the code. It doesn't have intent or thinking, it's a completion machine. The code is the artifact that matters, not the thousands of lines of "Your absolutely right --- I was wrong to ..."

Also, sometimes it gets something very wrong. I don't want to then poison every subsequent sessions with the wrong thing it learned. This has been a major issue for me at $WORK with AGENTS.md files that my colleagues write: they make my agent coding much worse so I need to manually delete them often.

anoojb• 5 months ago

I would argue the largest developer tools/services acquisition in recent history was GitHub (assuming you don't count RedHat in that category). GitHub was primarily an acquisition focused on acquiring the network of developers, based on the trust and cachet GitHub had earned, with the intent to upsell (land and expand) the developers at large Enterprise companies on downstream workflows and tools.

If I were an employee looking to join Entire, or a developer evaluating the durability of Entire for my needs over the long-term, I'd ask things like —

- What's the terminal value of a DevTool in the AI era? Is it closer to a standard 10x ARR? or maybe 100x...perhaps 1000x?

- Is there value in the asset attributable to the network? If so, is it defensible? What is the likelihood protocols emerge that simply disintermediate the network moat of a AI agent memory company like Entire?

- What kind of AI data are developers willing to silo with a single vendor? What kind of controls do Enterprises expect of an AI agent memory system? Can Entire reasonably provide them to grow in the next 12-24 months?

- As a potential employee...if you join a company with a $60M seed funding and 19 employees, what is the ARR they need to achieve based on the first product in market in roughly ~12 months? $6M...$12M...20M? Is there a DevTools company that's ever done that!? What is the thesis for "this time is different"? Getting developers to pay for things is tough 'doncha know?

Only then can you ask basic technical diligence questions —

- Is Git a system that can scale to be the memory system and handle the kind of tasks that AI agents are expected handle?

- Are the infrastructure costs for these early platform decisions here reasonable over the long-term? Or do they just run out of money?

I wish them the best, and I hope employees get liquidity, and people take money off the table in a responsible way.

sillyconwalle• 5 months ago

Some Tom Dick and Harry to VCs: I have a proposal for you.

VCs: what is it

Tom Dick & Harry: AI

VCs: get the ** out of here, we already burnt enough money and will never see it back

Tom Dick & Harry: hear me out this is different

VCs: ok you have 5 minutes to explain me your product

Tom Dick & Harry: I dont have one

VCs: get the ** out of here

Tom Dick & Harry: hear me out

VCs: ok, you have 30 seconds to impress us.

Tom Dick & Harry: I just quit Microslop and still have high level contacts there

VCs: Hot damn!!! you are our lottery ticket to recoup all the money we have lost in other ventures. This is going to be a race against time, before your contacts go stale. Here's 60M for you, wine and dine your friends with it. On your way out you will find some AI generated product names and some vague product descriptions. Pick one and slap it on some website and announce our deal. Now get the ** out of here.

phendrenad2• 5 months ago

I love this. Prompt engineering is a real skill, and learning by example is the best way to do it. Juniors being able to see how seniors actually did something is really powerful.

Rapzid• 5 months ago

Soooo.. It's like Git but on the intern... Er, with agents? On agents?

ashot2• 5 months ago

check out codecast.sh !

ashot2• 5 months ago

check out https://codecast.sh !

mdavid626• 5 months ago

The game has changed. The system is cracking.

No, it hasn’t. No, it isn’t.

pharrington• 5 months ago

I do not want it.

precompute• 5 months ago

Github but this time they're capitalizing on "agent traces". Alright. *Terrible* name btw.

chapz2• 5 months ago

[flagged]

grey-area• 5 months ago

Maybe he prefers to burn someone else’s money.

mlnj• 5 months ago

Diversify.

CamouflagedKiwi• 5 months ago

Why burn his own money when he can get VC money instead?

flakeoil• 5 months ago

If he believes in the product he could have kept 100% of his company.

chapz2• 5 months ago

The point is more - it's primary goal is not to enable developers to do more and better, it's primary goal is to _maximize shareholder value_. Important thing to keep in mind.

raincole2• 5 months ago

You know even Google looked for external investors for Waymo, right?

Yeah, Google. That company with more than $100B in cash. Even they know that it's better to burn someone else's money.

DANmode2• 5 months ago

Certain amount of risk per initiative.

abustamam2• 5 months ago

The world's richest man solicited investors and other people's money to buy Twitter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acquisition_of_Twitter_by_Elon...

I think that's just how rich people play the game. Why use your own money when you can use other people's money?

ChicagoDave4• 5 months ago

Checkpoints are not granular enough. You have to grab a work summary before the context window closes, not when you decide to commit. I have thousands of work summaries from one project alone. I use them to traverse sessions.

This is the agent that does the work: https://github.com/ChicagoDave/devarch/blob/main/docs/.claud...

My success with Claude Code is directly related to this agent and its output.

c-fe• 5 months ago

interesting. Do you have an example of what exactly it outputs and how you store that? how do you use the outputs? As a pointer to a new agent with fresh context to get them up to speed?

ChicagoDave4• 5 months ago

This is the current context docs in my text adventure authoring platform Sharpee:

https://github.com/ChicagoDave/sharpee/tree/main/docs/contex...

Note I archive these to a different non-repo folder regularly. It's fun to tell Claude to go through them like a RAG implementation and note the progress of my development over time, which I update semi-regularly at: https://david.cornelson.net/sharpee-status-20260109.html

Now updated to https://david.cornelson.net/sharpee-status-20260211.html

jannesblobel2• 5 months ago

Imagine shipping a product, and a few weeks later, you see Thomas Dohmke raise $60M for almost the exact same idea.

Some weeks ago we launched this:

https://github.com/Legit-Control/monorepo/tree/main/examples...

The idea was simple: keep AI prompts, intents, and conversations alongside your code and commits — basically treating AI interaction as first-class development artifacts. everything just plain Git

We struggled to get momentum. Things happen.

Now, less than 24 hours ago, Thomas announced Entire.io:

“Entire CLI hooks into your git workflow to capture AI agent sessions on every push. Sessions are indexed alongside commits, a searchable record of how code was written.”

That’s… very, very close to what we tried to build.

Honestly, I love the vision and think this will matter a lot in the AI age. It’s validating to see someone with that reach betting big on it.

Best of luck to Thomas and the team behind Entire.

zild3d• 5 months ago

to be fair this is a pretty hot topic, that the work is shifting to the prompt/agent thread but then thrown out / not captured

greg brockman https://x.com/gdb/status/2019566641491963946

6. Work on basic infra [...] there's a lot of infrastructure that currently go around the tools, such as observability, tracking not just the committed code but the agent trajectories that led to them, and central management of the tools that agents are able to use.

peter steinberger (clawdbot/openclaw) https://newsletter.pragmaticengineer.com/p/the-creator-of-cl...

Peter now views PRs as “prompt requests” and is more interested in seeing the prompts that generated code than the code itself

jannesblobel2• 5 months ago

Absolutely, it's also cool to see that so much is happening here right now. Sometimes you need a bit of a network to get something like this off the ground. Building infrastructure is never easy.

elAhmo• 5 months ago

60 million seed round? Delusional, I have no idea what investors are thinking.

timini2• 5 months ago

clearly this is a play to own all the agentic traces for further training

timini2• 5 months ago

clearly this is a plat to own all the agent traces for further training

romanovcode4• 5 months ago

For a solo developer this is pretty useless. For a team where everyone uses same coding tool this might be useful.

I am afraid however that with these tools Claude Code will just copy this in 3 months and have it as standard functionality within itself as a plugin.

Also I find it ironic that this domain is blocking all AI tools to access it, I tried to ask AI to explain what is the product and it is blocking Claude/GPT access to the website.

vidarh3• 5 months ago

When you push your commit, Checkpoints also pushes this metadata to a separate branch (entire/checkpoints/v1)

For Claude Code, this is literally a JSONL file in .claude/projects/[path with - instead of /]/[uuid].jsonl... You can trivially have Claude Code write a commit hook to do this for you if you find it useful.

I'm sure their vision is wider than that, but they will need to iterate fast for this not to be made obsolete before they can even release something.

FWIW, I had an agent adding archiving of the JSONL for changesets linked to the work they're doing right as I started looking at this article, as when you start automating a non-interactive agent flow it's such an obviously necessary step to be able to retrospectively improve the workflows.

benterix2• 5 months ago

That's why several VC-funded AI companies are deliberately vague about what they are doing.

6031769• 5 months ago

That is charitable of you. The alternative viewpoint is that they are vague about it because they have no idea what they are doing.

MarcelOlsz2• 5 months ago

How do you handle the retreival aspect? So you have this set up and now what?

FWIW, I had an agent adding archiving of the JSONL for changesets linked to the work they're doing

Would love to know more! Sounds interesting.

vidarh3• 5 months ago

I'm taking a very crude approach for now. My "improvement agent" has a few distinct stages: A goals extraction step that explores the repository, with some pointers to specific files that is consider authoritative as to the users intent, and then builds out files in docs/goals. That then feeds into a plan ideation stage that results in directories for plans in docs/plans. That directory has the plan itself, and logs of revisions etc. So for now I'm just dumping snapshots of those jsonl line files in there.

Putting it in a branch so it doesn't pollute your checked out copy may well be a good idea in the longer run. For now, I keep all the plans available, as I then have a review stage that reviews all the plans, and writes things like "the user got increasingly exasperated as the agent kept ignorning direction" :D and helps propose improvements to the tool and workflow to reduce the number of those exasperated movements...

I'm thinking of packaging it up and open-sourcing it. It's all very experimental and likely to totally change every day for now, but I find it helpful. It's built me a personal dashboard, and keeps adding stuff to it with relatively minimal direction beyond "spying" on my notes and journal at this point. At one point a plan specifically called me out for procrastinating and planned for how to "work around" that with tooling (I wish it'd succeed at that).

There's nothing really fancy here, just feedback loops that ensures the wild claims the agents sometimes will make are tested and rejected.

To the original JSONL bit, the uuid you need to look it up is also the UUID you need to call "claude --resume [uuid]", so extracting it also allows for e.g. having the verification agent (that checks if the implementation agent was truthful when ticking off the quality gates - spoiler: it very often isn't) feed its report back into the original implementation conversation if rejected, instead of having the implementation agent "start over" without the full context. I haven't tested that yet, but I'm hopeful.

Though even if you don't have it restart, you can point it to the snapshot of the previous conversation as a source of additional info, as another option.

jdiez17• 5 months ago

Git repositories were never extended to version everything developers build with in the AI era. [... more fatalistic verbiage ...] A system that cannot be retrofitted for what's ahead.

Two paragraph later:

Entire will be based on three key components: a git-compatible database [...]

So which one is it?

vorticalbox• 5 months ago

can the agent not simply be instructed to save the "why" in the commit message?

lcnmrn• 5 months ago

Entire company as a protocol. Can GitHub implement this?

igorpcosta• 5 months ago

I think it's extremely value what Thomas is doing with Checkpoints, I have this built in on autohand code cli that allows you to share with others your session /share https://autohand.link/s/ah-23wbbq4v2r5vt86684hg-1768476838

You can see the turns, tools called, outputs, changes. Similar to what he's trying to achieve.

96khz• 5 months ago

so I'm guessing now I can finally say "go fix the bug" and the future agents can run blame on old tracked prompts, find the thought process behind a line themselves, and fix the bug?

hakube• 5 months ago

New buzzwords in the big 2026

pistoriusp• 5 months ago

The product isn't the software, it's your data. The VC's didn't give Dohmke $60m to build a new frontend for Git/ GitHub... They're going to capture your conversations and code with AI (The outcomes) and use that to train better models which they'll rent back at you.

port114• 5 months ago

100%, and many developers are gonna fall for it. I’m off GitHub because I don’t think every corporation under the sun should profit off my work.

EngineerBetter• 5 months ago

I made something very similar, in my spare time, last week. I didn't need $60m for it.

https://github.com/re-cinq/claudit

What's amusing is that I specifically made a comedy license for it, because I thought trying to protect the IP of such a thing is madness in the AI-native era. Then within days I find out it's a massively funded startup!

https://github.com/re-cinq/ai-native-application-license/

I've got Claude Code adding Gemini and OpenCode support to my tool currently.

romanovcode4• 5 months ago

It doesn't seem to work if you use Claude plugins like feature-dev and commit-push-pr.

I tested it with multiple PRs and I see nothing in GH nor Entire dashboard.

protomikron• 5 months ago

If you think about it, it makes sense.

Say what you want about LLM-assisted software development, the chances are high that it will stay, meaning a non-trivial part of code will be written by an LLM.

So is it better to have

  - git commit (mostly only code)
  - magic or blackblock (meaning back and forth by developer with LLM, before commit)
  - git commit (mostly only code)
  ...
  (rinse and repeat)

  - git commit (prompt and/or code)
  - git commit (prompt and/or code)
  ...
  (rinse and repeat)

Obviously for that to work the LLM output has to be deterministic and a commit chain has to be pinpointed to a specific weight blob.

ozten• 5 months ago

The demo shows a bunch of manual stuff that humans shouldn't be doing.

vonneumannstan• 5 months ago

How can the VC market sustain yet another Cursor clone? Jfc it needs to die

dudeinhawaii• 5 months ago

I'm not making a judgement on the product but why is everything about selling shovels? I want to see "real" software and new innovative ideas that are developed and maintained using AI and not just shovels 'advertised' on HN every week.

Show me the next blockchain or noSQL, or git!

Everything is "I took a prompt and stapled it to another prompt and added <insert existing OSS> framework".. and then. holds hand out "MONEY PLEASE!"

smugglerFlynn• 5 months ago

Because building complex product that is also useful is not quick and is not easy. Contrary to the idea that many people are floating around these days.

herbst• 5 months ago

Is it just me or does "ex GitHub CEO" sound like it's going to be a bad project getting continuously worse and therefore is not worth to even look into!?

Ex-GitHub CEO launches a new developer platform for AI agents

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