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I don't see that anywhere in the parent's comment. Where did you get all that?

It's part of the rationale for why one would choose Pi over Claude

It's unrelated to my direct comment and it's a generic tangent off the thread further up, which is about technical issues with Claude Code. As the guidelines say:

"On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity."

"Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents."

"Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity."

Nobody wants to see you hijacking technical threads to turn them into political flamewars. It's against the guidelines, anti-intellectual, and profoundly boring.

Shallow dismissals like "straight up false"

If something is false, which the headline is, then calling it false isn't a "dismissal", it's asserting reality.

If you don't understand this, then you may have trouble with actually using logic.

Calling well-know human right activist NGOs "handful of nerds" is straight up misinformation.

No, it's factually not. It's pejorative and not in good taste, but saying that it is "misinformation" is just a lie. (that's consistent with your previous post though)

Can you please keep the unsolicited ranting out of the replies? It breaks the guidelines and degrades the value of the site. Thanks!

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I'm also a fan of Pi - although, doesn't Claude code (and most other harnesses) already have "custom summarization instructions" for compaction/summarization that already allow you to do this? Or have you added on something extra?

Uh, the point was that a single ideology caused deaths due to socialism. Unless you think that there's a single ideology that caused all of the deaths in the countries you mentioned, then this isn't "in the spirit of fairness", it's just misrepresentation.

we have things like software architecture patterns that can be discussed at a high level without knowing the intricacies

I think the counterargument would be "you can't teach people architecture alone and get good architects".

I've observed this myself in "systems engineers" whose job is to connect boxes together without understanding how the boxes work. They, invariably, design ridiculous architectures on their own and need to basically find a domain expert to route their opinions through to come up with anything sane.

I think they didn't phrase it precisely, but my guess is the underlying idea is actually "high-level software architecture doesn't have a clear abstraction layer you can use to separate it from low-level coding (unlike logic gates, the CPU's ISA, the kernel API, etc), and so delegating the latter leads to delegating the former".

whether constant use of “agent” harnesses will lead to an atrophy of the software engineering (or really any field) muscles

Well, I think most neuropsychologists would agree that the answer is "yes, there will be atrophy" - if you don't use it, you lose it.

So what’s the ideal “middle ground” in this situation?

I've been thinking a lot about this myself. My current plan is to train myself to get good at recognizing the feeling of "there's potential effort here that I want to outsource to the LLM" and occasionally choosing to not outsource it and do it by hand - especially with personal projects, where there's far less pressure to ship with velocity than work projects - but I'm not settled on this. I'll take any idea!

without just stating features that cause lock-in

That's a false dichotomy. Features that cause vendor lock-in can still be incredibly valuable.

You can't blindly just call me an idiot

Sorry, that was a little harsh. I wasn't meaning to call you an idiot - I'm sure you have domains of expertise that you're highly proficient in. But you clearly have little (if any) experience with gamedev, and my point is that you should be far less confident when speaking about it.

For instance, you said something just factually wrong:

The reason the 30% rate is sustained though IS the abuse of market power with the PMFN clause, which ensures that competitors cannot price lower.

...which was debunked by another comment:

Steam's official price parity policy applies only to Steam Keys, which are free to generate and cost Valve nothing.

As for features that are actually useful to devs and users:

Local currencies, regional pricing/payment methods, gift cards, Steam Wallet, game gifting, product keys, wallet/credit system (Steam wallet), bundles, DLC, complex storefront (topics/labels, discovery queue, wishlist, sale notifications), user reviews, game refunds, CDN, a really good download/update system, player metrics, shader pre-caching, shared runtime management, cloud saves, game management across multiple drives, LAN downloads/updates, beta/release/build management, DRM and anticheat, game collections, developer updates, forums, Big Picture/Steam Deck UI, Proton, Steam Input, a complex social system (friends, text chat, voice chat, add codes, profiles), social integration with games, account 2FA, and many, many, many more things. (go and ask a LLM and I'm sure it'll be more than happy to give you a far longer list :)

These are all things that developers and players benefit from. The value added is immense and blindingly obvious even to people who only play games, let alone to developers who have some idea of how difficult it is to actually implement all of the above.

It seems to implement the Avy (https://github.com/abo-abo/avy) model of input. It can't be improved very much, because when dealing with dynamic data, you can't make things repeatable. The idea of "muscle memory" for things that change is kind of fallacious. The best you can do is ensure some predictability in the subset of keys you're using for element selection.

Side note: his startup is replacing human engineers by capturing their every input and operation, but without their explicit consent.

...huh. It's a "startup", so it's not Meta capturing their employees' inputs. I wonder what it could be.

Erm sorry when I said GP I meant of my comment - that is, phoghed's irrelevant comment about ISPs collecting data.

The information you mentioned is relevant. Unfortunately, it could be either Google/Chrome, or the LLM service you're using for development is misusing your data.

They would not - GP was probably bringing up something not directly relevant, but still related. (they should have clarified though)

should get c25% of all transactions for offering very little value

"Very little value"? It's clear that you've never developed a game before. Don't speak so confidently out of complete and total ignorance - it leads to making utterly insane and totally factually wrong statements like this one.

And I am not advocating for anything

Reading your original comment, you're very heavily implying it, and trying to guilt people who don't agree with you:

> Telling people not to be political is a political act – specifically, one that accepts whatever comes, doesn't care about power, is happy with whoever rules whom and how justly. Those are your politics, or at least sufficiently so that you're happy to park those issues while discussing tech. They aren't everyone's. You can turn off the non-technical comments by ignoring them.

And this:

I am pointing out the contradiction of the proposal to ban politics on topics that are politically charged.

Is incorrect, as repeatedly brought up, because (1) saying "there is a forum for politics, and it isn't here" is not a political statement and (2) nobody advocated for a ban specifically on topics that are politically charged - that's your moving the goalposts.

The guidelines do not say "do not discuss politics". They say no political or ideological battles.

Yes, and HN seems to be incapable of following that rule, so advocating for an outright ban on politics is extremely appropriate.

And no-one is talking about inserting politics into every discussion.

My comment very clearly says "into every forum". You are advocating for the insertion of politics into every forum.

Telling people not to be political is a political act

There's a place for politics - which is not here, if you read the guidelines.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Only an extremely socially maladjusted individual tries to insert politics (or, any particular topic) into every forum/discussion that they're in.

So depressing to read the non-stop political comments here.

Moderation can be improved by the community. Downvote political comments to show that they're not welcome. Flag them if they break the guidelines (which is almost always, because the purpose of HN is almost exactly anti-political). If there's a particularly egregious comment, or a user who's on a jihad, then contact hn@ycombinator.com.

"The standard you walk past is the standard you accept."

I think I might agree, but just so we're clear: what exactly is a "techno-sycophant"?

You clearly have both zero exposure to any sort of Eastern culture, and you also didn't read any of the sources in that Wikipedia page - and instead of doing either of those (because you know that if you do, you'll be proven wrong and/or have to content with cognitive dissonance), you're trying to catch me with a gotcha. It's clear you're not operating in good faith - any person genuinely trying to understand would do one of those things, and you're not.

Maybe you’re picking and choosing media to reinforce your inner biases?

You think that I chose to watch thousands of hours of media, not for entertainment, but specifically to deluse myself into a very specific and niche bias that the vast majority of people don't even have a mental framework to conceptualize and never comes up in casual conversation or has any relevance to my daily life? Congratulations, that's one of the most insane accusations I've ever seen on the internet.

I see that you also forked Pi itself[1]. Out of curiosity, is there a reason you did this instead of implementing those two features in your fork as Pi extensions?

I've managed to implement most of the things I want in Pi through extensions - with one exception (disabling animations, because there's no extension API or setting for that).

[1] https://github.com/atharva-again/pi

Yes, and if you think it's not feasible, you failed the critical thinking test. Balloons have the ability to observe signals that satellites do not. It's that simple.

I am pointing out the whole ‘losing face’ thing exists in the west too.

Yes, in the sense that a bicycle and a Formula F1 are both wheeled modes of transportation.

I never said that western cultures don't have the concept of pride - just that it's categorically different in eastern cultures.

This is both extremely well academically supported[1] and immediately obvious to anyone who has nontrivial exposure to most eastern cultures (including, specifically, Chinese culture).

Furthermore, the punishment of Chelsea manning is clearly irrelevant for multiple different reasons:

1. Specific instances are not reflective of a general pattern

2. Manning and Assange were instances of leakers of classified information, which is a separate category from merely "losing face"

3. There's a consistent pattern of the US government prosecuting leakers of classified information[2] even when there's zero media exposure, which conclusively disproves the "its just saving face" theory

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Face_(sociological_concept)#Re...

[2] https://www.justice.gov/news/press-releases?search_api_fullt...

There's no "in my estimation" - this is a well-researched topic and the vast majority of sociologists agree that there is a major cultural difference between the two, starting with the fact that "keeping up with the Joneses" is an individual act of pride vs "saving face" in China not only involves individual pride of an objectively greater magnitude, but also a collective pride that is rare in Western cultures and almost unheard of in highly individualistic cultures like the United States.

For understanding this better - you can try to read the Wikipedia page on the concept of face ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Face_(sociological_concept) ), but part of my point is that academic/intellectual understanding is a really poor substitute for experience in this domain, and reading a page allows for intellectual disagreement that is literally inconsistent with reality - experience forces you to directly confront that reality.

I'd suggest watching a few hundred hours of media from several different Eastern cultures (I personally like a mix between Japanese, Korean, and Chinese television shows - they each have their own memetics and charm and can be highly enjoyable - but most forms of media should give you the same experience as long as it's diverse enough).

You are straight-up lying about my own words. Yes, you are both, and thank you for conclusively discrediting your own position instead of responding with something that'd actually require effort to dispute (such as a logical argument based on facts).

...no? Not that the answer to that question is even relevant to the comment I actually wrote.

a society that values appearances and will do a lot to protect face

Read my comment again, carefully, and you'll understand that your response is unrelated to my point.

Also: all of these things exist in large, industrialized Eastern nations too. You've clearly never lived in any of those places or even had tangential exposure to their culture. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that - just understand that you are exactly the kind of person who is going to have the hardest time understanding the cultural difference - which is part of my point.

pretty much what you tried to imply

Ahhh, the propagandist's classic tactic - when unable to muster even the feeblest possible response to an argument, just make up things and pretend that the other party said them.

Fact: I said nothing of the sort. You are lying.

owning up

I have nothing to own up to because I said nothing of the sort, and anyone with basic reading skills can see that.

clarifying

I was exactly as clear as I needed to be. I do not need to provide every single possible hedge on my statements. It is ok to not be perfectly clear and disclaim every negative, and this is now normal, sane, socially well-adjusted people behave.

It is completely unacceptable (and more than a little psychotic) to take that ambiguity and interpret it in the worst possible way.

It is downright evil to then defend that malicious misinterpretation instead of apologizing.

You are evil.

You got it. I'm not saying that saving face is the only cultural priority - just that it's a much greater one than in most Western cultures - and most Westerners don't understand that, and that leads to misunderstanding of the mindset and rationale for actions and decisions.