Hacker News front page now, but the titles are honest

https://dosaygo-studio.github.io/hn-front-page-2035/news-honest.html

by keepamovin • 7 months ago

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szemy2• 7 months ago

This is pretty funny!

PaulHoule2• 7 months ago

How did you get an LLM to be snarky or did you do something else?

pizzathyme2• 7 months ago

Same question and great work. I would love to know the prompt details of how the hacker news truth was captured

nottorp3• 7 months ago

Yes, this is absolutely brilliant! Teach us the prompt, o great wizards!

doomspork• 7 months ago

You can prompt it to do so. Look you "Persona based prompting" as a great and fun example of controlling what the LLM spits out and its tone.

smokel• 7 months ago

Let's try to get a story on little Bobby Tables on the front page and find out.

minimaxir4• 7 months ago

Modern LLMs are now actually good at having a sense of humor.

danielscrubs• 7 months ago

Wow, this is amazing! Great work!

SV_BubbleTime• 7 months ago

We rewrote it in Rust so you have to upvote it

Good LLM prompt, excellent understanding.

p2detar2• 7 months ago

Original title: `GotaTun -- Mullvad's WireGuard Implementation in Rust`. I laughed too much at the alternative title, because it's so true.

tome• 7 months ago

This is hilarious and I'm looking forward to seeing what it says about itself.

marai2• 7 months ago

this is gold!

“Click to keep avoiding work …”

safehuss• 7 months ago

Very funny and brutally honest!

wiseowise2• 7 months ago

Lmao, this is great.

linuxftw• 7 months ago

I motion HN adopts this to auto-translate all submitted titles.

JaggerJo• 7 months ago

Should be the default!

clamprecht• 7 months ago

I'd love it if the mouseover text would be these titles.

hervic• 7 months ago

Aplausos, gracias totales!!!

ChrisMarshallNY• 7 months ago

Love it!

pizzathyme2• 7 months ago

Yes and - it would be great to hover/tap to see the original headline.

I found myself pulling up the original and the honest versions side by side. The translation makes it funny.

andix• 7 months ago

Right now there is a lot of drift between real and honest version, so it's hard to find the original title.

AntiqueFig• 7 months ago

If you click on the comments in the honest version, it'll redirect you to the real version.

Retr0id• 7 months ago

Doesn't seem to be live, otherwise there'd be one that says "Hacker News front page now, but the titles are slop"

thornewolf• 7 months ago

maybe so, though an inaccurate claim. the ai is the value add here (and quite a value add based on the other comments in the thread). we typically reserve the word "slop" for ai generated content that is of low quality or no value add. this website seems to be both of quality and value ad and it would be difficult to argue otherwise.

idiotsecant4• 7 months ago

Meta-Meta context: The LLM made this post.

wiseowise2• 7 months ago

Not everything generated is slop.

cwyers• 7 months ago

"Slop" is at _least_ as fair a description of "we had an LLM rewrite HN headlines" as "we rewrote it in Rust so you have to upvote it" is of "we removed our biggest source of crashes on Android by getting rid of Go FFI issues."

EarlKing• 7 months ago

Bring back n-gate!

pimlottc• 7 months ago

I miss n-gate’s webshit weekly.

http://n-gate.com/

EDIT: open the link manually, they put a mock "security check" on referrers from HN

apitman• 7 months ago

I miss n-gate

lapcat• 7 months ago

How much of this navel-gazing junk do we need? See also, from the same author:

Show HN: Gemini Pro 3 imagines the HN front page 10 years from now https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46205632 (10 days ago)

Show HN: Hacker News, but every headline is hysterical clickbait https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46324579 (4 hours ago)

phoe-krk2• 7 months ago

Maybe HN needs some reflection, and satire is one of the best ways to provide it.

ok1234564• 7 months ago

There hasn't been since n-gate stopped posting.

topaz02• 7 months ago

And slop is one of the worst ways

greenwallnorway2• 7 months ago

I've done it before. Projects about hn on hn get a lot of attention.

They're a lot of fun! And super easy to vibe code, if I'm looking to test a new model.

It's hard to restrain myself from navel-gazing, the lint in there is fascinating.

I'm not sure they satisfy curiosity as much as many posts with fewer votes, but that's okay.

gjm11• 7 months ago

I feel that my life has been improved by all three of these. I hadn't seen the "hysterical clickbait" one before you pointed it out, so thank you even though clearly that was the opposite of your intent.

bombcar3• 7 months ago

It's somewhat live, as it now has

META-MELTDOWN: WE BROKE HACKER NEWS WITH THIS ONE SIMPLE TRICK (dosaygo-studio.github.io)

ctrlmeta6• 7 months ago

How much of this navel-gazing junk do we need? See also, from the same author:

Seriously! I'll admit the first post was mighty fun. But now this is turning into an AI-spam-fest! I objected in the 2nd thread but got downvoted. Apparently the community here thinks this kind of low effort Reddit-style humor is now on-topic for this place!

Not to mention the systematic downvoting of every comment that is critical of these spam posts!

catapart• 7 months ago

reminds me of how people used to shove autotune into anything and people lapped it up like the slop that it was and this is. but, as with that slop, this will also get boring to the masses. there's only so much "I told an llm to pretend it was deadpool by way of ryan reynolds" that people actually like. the novelty is the brunt of it. and, like with autotune, when used well, people will continue to appreciate it. just ride out the hyperslop, for now.

floatrock• 7 months ago

I dunno, sounds like "rapid product iteration to find product-market fit" to me.

minimaxir4• 7 months ago

It's funny, the OP doesn't have an ulterior motive, and it's close to the holidays so it is not cannibalizing more important news. There's no harm here.

gabrielflorit• 7 months ago

This is amazing.

ihrimech• 7 months ago

I laughed so hard ...

craftkiller• 7 months ago

Me too. Audibly laughed out loud and was late to standup because I had to tell my roommate about it.

BeaverGoose• 7 months ago

"Please star my repo so I can get a job" is brutal

tigerlily• 7 months ago

I had to go back and look. Absolutely skewered it.

OsrsNeedsf2P• 7 months ago

As someone who maintained popular open source repos for >5 years, not once did I have a recruiter care about it (I made sure to ask!)

abhaynayar• 7 months ago

maybe not the recruiter but the hiring manager or prospective colleagues who'll interview you later?

not the number of stars, but I like looking what people have done online ie GitHub/blog. I feel like it is a nice thing to talk about.

I know it's an unpopular opinion these days cause everyone wants work life balance and not work beyond the office but it's always nice to see projects you've worked on it does show some interest. also while one can fake GitHub activity it's hard to fake well thought out and cared for projects.

it's easier to fake metrics from your previous jobs like I saved X amount of money for the company or had Y efficiency gains.

Svoka• 7 months ago

I hired many many people and never once I cared about GitHub stars. Not even sure what signal it suppose to be.

Agentlien• 7 months ago

I have a few blog posts which have received only about ~250 upvotes across different communities, plus a GitHub project with just 30 stars.

Still, both of these were really interesting to my future colleagues (not the recruiter) who interviewed me in the last round of the interviews which landed me my current job. They had read them ahead of time and it really shaped the technical part of the interview.

Sesse__2• 7 months ago

I've had recruiters be “impressed by my GitHub profile”, when I didn't have a single project on my GitHub profile.

wting• 7 months ago

As a hiring manager that visited every resume Github link because of my FOSS background, >99% of them had nothing of substance (no activity, school projects, etc).

nurettin2• 7 months ago

I was contacted by a spanish HR agency, they said that my github contained code that they considered an outlier and would like to forward some job applications. Never heard of them since. Maybe scraping github for talent isn't good business.

kgwxd• 7 months ago

Is that the title it gave itself?

Edit: Oh no, that was for the repo I actually stared before seeing this. I'm just learning Go :)

nmz• 7 months ago

The future is now

ekropotin• 7 months ago

I have to admit, that one hurts

Lockal• 7 months ago

Should be: "New account spams HN with AI generated slop (emojis included), third attempt"

toomuchtodo• 7 months ago

Well done!

alexgotoi• 7 months ago

Love the “Click to keep avoiding work” - so true!

bombcar3• 7 months ago

This is the most brutal cut of all

WhyOhWhyQ• 7 months ago

The noprocast feature should have an option to insult the user for returning here.

pjerem• 7 months ago

Nah, look at the Y logo :)

greenwallnorway2• 7 months ago

Projects about hn on hn get a lot of attention here. I've sure done it before.

They're a lot of fun! And super easy to vibe code, if I'm looking to test a new model.

freedomben2• 7 months ago

Definitely fun, although after recently submitting one (a simple browse extension to make HN Christmas colors last all Christmas season instead of on Christmas Day)[1] that got very little attention I started looking at other posts and found a whole lot more slip through the cracks than I would have thought.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46266496

Forgeties79• 7 months ago

This is really funny

barfoure3• 7 months ago

Yup. And if you dared to bring this up in the comments (ie. your own rewrite of a title/post), you’d get reminded of the guidelines and downvoted/flagged. Because fuck honesty - we are here for clicks and engagements.

This is a good step. Next: disclose financial incentives and other motives just to nip it in the bud.

freedomben2• 7 months ago

well, I think OP is quite funny and I really enjoyed it, but it definitely goes against the entire idea of approaching things in good faith. I'm sure some or even many of them are sadly accurate, but if reinterpreting things people say through that lens became the behavioral norm on HN I think it would quickly destroy everything many people love about this place. Just my 2 cents of course.

barfoure3• 7 months ago

Only fools approach hyenas in good faith. You have to be naive to allow yourself to get swindled by internet marketing junkies.

I’m all for prefacing each post that comes from a16z with “Asshole Alert” so that we know who we are dealing with upfront.

bombledmonk• 7 months ago

This should be the April Fools 2026 feature put directly on the live HN site.

strangattractor• 7 months ago

The Onion for Programers

actionfromafar• 7 months ago

AKA The Onion.

eastbound2• 7 months ago

I love asking Grok’s companions, especially “Bad Rudy”, for the news of the day. It’s pretty similar: Brutally honest, filtered news. Although recently he started editorializing with his personal opinion, which is boring (from an AI companion).

nine_k• 7 months ago

This is not "honest", this is mostly just dismissive. The headings are no more neutral and explanatory than the originals, because, I suppose, the intent was just having fun.

"We rewrote it in snark so you have to upvote".

ok1234564• 7 months ago

Is it wrong, though?

ctrlmeta6• 7 months ago

Yes, it is wrong. Take the top one:

We rewrote it in Rust so you have to upvote it

I'm pretty sure they didn't go through all the trouble of rewriting it in Rust to get some internet forum points!

SideburnsOfDoom• 7 months ago

Well, this one is wrong: "I built a language nobody will use just to learn generics"

The comments make it clear that the language author has not yet learned generics by this exercise.

barfoure3• 7 months ago

It’s a Fark.com style applied to HN. Maybe we should do a SomethingAwful theme next?

daft_pink• 7 months ago

It would be a really interesting feature to have ai analyze the articles and write an actually honest sub-headline. (ie not these sarcastic humor titles)

peesem• 7 months ago

if your immediate thought is "how can ai be added to this?" i think you might be part of the joke

nightpool• 7 months ago

These are clearly AI generated, not sure what you mean by "adding" to it.

alabhyajindal• 7 months ago

OpenAI releases a new model to distract from their board drama

This one shows the "age" of the LLM, or the data cut off time

sallveburrpi• 7 months ago

Implying there is no drama in OpenAIs board at the moment - they just stopped doing it in public for the time being

casey2• 7 months ago

How is the Mac studio ad title honest?

abtinf3• 7 months ago

Reminds me of Suckdot.

https://web.archive.org/web/20000302102827/https://suck.com/...

queuebert• 7 months ago

Missing the "We have too many file formats for X, so I made another". Could also prepopulate the comments with the ubiquitous xkcd reference.

__MatrixMan__• 7 months ago

This is what adblock evolves into.

jvanderbot• 7 months ago

OK, so the "Storing data in the network ... " title made me remember something.

If you transmit a message to Mars, say a rover command sequence, and the outgoing buffer is deleted on the sending side (the original code is preserved, but the transmission-encoded sequence doesn't stick around), then that data, for 20-90 minutes, exists nowhere _except_ space. It's just random-looking electrical fluctuations that are propagating through whatever is out there until it hits a conducting piece of metal millions of miles away and energizes a cap bank enough to be measured by a digital circuit and reconstructed into data.

So, if you calculate the data rate (9600 baud, even), and set up a loopback/echo transmitter on Mars, you could store ~4 MB "in space". If you're using lasers, it's >100x as much.

Sharlin2• 7 months ago

It's just a fancy form of delay-line memory [1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delay-line_memory

lxgr3• 7 months ago

In a universe with mass–energy equivalence, show me a storage medium that isn’t effectively a delay line :)

Aloha• 7 months ago

you beat me to it - or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delay-line_memory in general, space is probably closer to an electrical delay line in practice.

2026iknewit• 7 months ago

There is an archive of a lot of television transmission in space.

archive.space

You just need to be traveling faster than the radio waves, catch up and enjoy :)

RobotToaster• 7 months ago

People of Earth. I AM LRRR, RULER OF THE PLANET OMICRON PERSEI 8! We will raise your planet's temperature by one million degrees a day, for five days, unless we see McNeal at 9pm tomorrow - 8 central!

willis9362• 7 months ago

Assuming some pass through non-empty media, isn't it technically possible?

btown• 7 months ago

With gravitational lensing, this is actually viable! Just send a signal at a gravity sink, and travel at sublight speeds to position yourself in a place where it will be redirected to eventually along a longer path, and you can intercept your own signal! You just have to be really, really lucky.

charv• 7 months ago

"Commenter shows off how smart they are with cool fun fact"

Scaevolus• 7 months ago

You can use fiber optics as an optical delay line too! About 60KB/km at 100Gbps.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delay-line_memory

pkoiralap• 7 months ago

So if we can somehow preserve the signal and make it go round and round, can we get long term storage out of nothing?

terminalkeys• 7 months ago

Not a scientist, but I assume the signal would degrade or mutate over time due to space radiation and other radio waves.

marcosdumay• 7 months ago

"Nothing" is a funny name for an interplanetary communication network.

idiotsecant4• 7 months ago

You're still storing your data in the same EM field, just in a slightly different non-inertial reference frame.

lucaslazarus• 7 months ago

This is possible but you'd have to deploy it right by a black hole: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon_sphere

nextaccountic• 7 months ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcJSW7Rprio

poly2it• 7 months ago

Definitely one of the harder drives feasible!

Tom 7 did something reminiscent of this if you hadn't seen already: https://youtu.be/JcJSW7Rprio.

pinkmuffinere• 7 months ago

Love Tom7! The peculiarities of my brain's weirdness obligates me to sing his praises every time he is mentioned.

lxgr3• 7 months ago

Indeed: https://qntm.org/transi

HPsquared• 7 months ago

You could totally do that with the mirror on the moon. (Retroreflector + optical data transmission).

The moon is approximately (it varies) 1.3 light seconds away, i.e. a 2.6 second round trip, and optical links can have very high data rates. You could fit quite a lot of data on there! (Edit: although maybe the data rate won't be so high at these distances)

davidkellis• 7 months ago

Some amateur radio folks do something along similar lines: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%E2%80%93Moon%E2%80%93Ear...

Kim_Bruning• 7 months ago

https://xclacksoverhead.org/home/about

gmfawcett• 7 months ago

"Going Postal" was brilliant. GNU Terry Pratchett.

shevy-java2• 7 months ago

If you transmit a message to Mars, say a rover command sequence

Don't you worry!

AI rover robots are soon going to dominate Mars.

CGMthrowaway2• 7 months ago

Lacks the capability of random access, which limits the practicality of it. Cool idea still

diydsp2• 7 months ago

My friend Joe Allen did this with the air in a room!

https://youtu.be/a5hOmPdxw0U

journal• 7 months ago

Before I consumed calories over days to figure out syntax. Now, a language model exhausts those calories away in seconds. Eventually we will advance too far into the future that the tail end of humanity will forget how to make pants.

agumonkey• 7 months ago

allegedly, this was used long ago. a teacher told us similar stories from his early career in the 80s

made my mind tickle for quite a while

DarmokJalad1701• 7 months ago

During NASA's Deep Space Optical Comms demo (https://www.nasa.gov/mission/deep-space-optical-communicatio...), they transmitted video at 267 Mbps from 16 million kilometers away. That's 1.78 GiB stored in space while in transit (assuming 53.3 seconds light-speed delay).

The furthest they did was 8.3 Mbps at 400 million km which is around ~1.38 GiB in transit.

AndrewKemendo• 7 months ago

That’s so cool! Never knew that

mapt2• 7 months ago

"a man is not dead while his name is still spoken"

GNU John Dearheart

npongratz• 7 months ago

pingfs has similar inspiration, where storage capacity scales with latency.

https://code.kryo.se/pingfs/

Discussed in 2015:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9844725

542458• 7 months ago

There's a short story by Qntm called "Valuable Humans in Transit" that I like quite a bit which hinges on this subject: https://qntm.org/transi

Sharlin2• 7 months ago

One of my favorite pieces of short fiction.

smarnach• 7 months ago

The distance from Earth to Mars is about 3 to 22 light minutes, not 20 to 90. That doesn't change anything about your point, except the capacity is lower.

DarkTree• 7 months ago

Now do the comments

erikig• 7 months ago

I don't think I'm ready for this, I might never go back to "real" work.

p2detar2• 7 months ago

Did anyone notice the footer? Brilliant.

keepamovin9• 7 months ago

Thanks, bud!

reality_inspctr• 7 months ago

amazing

stuartjohnson12• 7 months ago

Marketing blog post explaining why you should buy our product (hatchet.run)

When you developer market hard enough that you make it into the LLM training data.

cyrusradfar• 7 months ago

I'm expecting someone to build the chrome plugin shortly.

linhns• 7 months ago

Make my day mate

keepamovin9• 7 months ago

No worries, mate

topaz02• 7 months ago

Just me, or are all of these one sentence approving comments (at top level) posted by bots?

idiotsecant4• 7 months ago

It's just you. Beep boop.

jordanpg• 7 months ago

This weird obsequiousness and the fact that it never updates are beginning to make me wonder if this is some kind of prank.

anon115• 7 months ago

XDDDDDD

oncallthrow• 7 months ago

I was expecting this to be stupid but it’s genuinely funny. I guess LLMs are better at humor than I remember

junon• 7 months ago

Seconding a little, perhaps dim button to toggle the original. But I love this. So much so that I might start referring to it more than HN when I'm in a rush.

Imustaskforhelp• 7 months ago

This is really awesome, I am interested how you made this, is there a way that we can have something this like for hackernews for more than this one instance of (20?) posts, I know its satirical but I really enjoyed it

Considering its hosted on github I think that it is a static page

jedberg2• 7 months ago

Aka "the titles when people post these on reddit".

Now you know why HN has the "no editorializing" rule. :)

sidcool• 7 months ago

reddit is a whole different beast. It does not have a sense of humor, rather it is a biased cesspool of partisanship.

scottyah• 7 months ago

I sleep better at night thinking it is just a battleground of astroturfing bots fighting each other (at least on the main pages).

Everything from massive Russian state-actor bot farms testing newly trained LLMs popping out AI-generated meme formats before deploying domestically unknowingly getting into arguments with Israeli bot farms trying to raise support for some new movie series that will enable them to raise money for their next missile strike competing for eyeballs/attention from some uni student in a dorm room paying mid-sized black market companies in India to post comments telling you that cast-iron pans are too hard to clean so you should buy the non-sticks you saw on instagram (which are just marketing dropshippers in the USA selling the QA rejected pans from established brands).

The online world is a wild place.

TeMPOraL• 7 months ago

"When we do it, it's called sense of humor. When they do it, it's bias and partisanship."

ozozozd2• 7 months ago

You may have thought this is an objective observation.

For anyone over the age of 16 this comment is a loud expression of your political views.

Also, I find Reddit to be super funny. Just yesterday someone posted a photo of their brain MRI showing a tumor the size of a tennis ball and everyone, including the OP were having a great time.

bsimpson2• 7 months ago

(In case you didn't realize it, you're replying to one of the OG reddit admins.)

Mistletoe• 7 months ago

This is actually how my brain reads most of the HN posts.

dangoodmanUT• 7 months ago

They don’t all seem super accurate, but I like these titles better

ctippett• 7 months ago

I got a good chuckle out of some of the titles. In Jeff Geerling's defence (the title on the site reads "Rich developer spends $15k to run a model slightly faster"), he was loaned the Mac Studios from Apple and so he didn't spend a dime.

Also his accompanying YouTube video mentions the kit retails for $40,000+, a far cry from $15k.

taikahessu• 7 months ago

Yeah, and it could be more like satire of "developer spends 15k to run a basic lying chatbot" or something like that :)

Plus some of the stories seem to be a bit old like openai board controversy remark.

All in all, some funny stuff i agree!

publicdebates• 7 months ago

"Show HN: I implemented generics in my programming language"

does not deserve the roast

"I built a language nobody will use just to learn generics"

It's not fair to assume the author didn't know how to implement generics before this project. It's also not fair to assume the project won't gain traction. Zig and Rust started out small too! This just goes a little too far for my tastes.

idiotsecant4• 7 months ago

still funny.

Kwpolska• 7 months ago

If you read the post, a more accurate title is "I don't know what generics are but I'm implementing a programming language anyway".

forgotpwd16• 7 months ago

It's not fair to assume the author didn't know how to implement generics before this project

Yeah... what they ended up implementing is not generics. So good thing the LLM doesn't read link/comments too or will've probably wrote an actual roast.

It's also not fair to assume the project won't gain traction

Very fair to assume this. Referencing Rust/Zig disregarding the thousands other now abandoned ones is survivorship bias. Most small hobby projects remain small. But, besides joking about it, "built [something] nobody will use", if is in their free time, and enjoy it, does it matter? Is there a need for all hobby projects to have a goal of making it big?

This just goes a little too far for my tastes.

But the "Please star my repo so I can get a job" is fine?

_el1s7• 7 months ago

This is cool lol

tmshapland• 7 months ago

lol. would you share the prompt for how you translate them? it really feels like a snarky HN community member rewrote each one.

neilv2• 7 months ago

It's a little bit n-gate.

Who unfortunately stopped posting HN critiques, a few years ago. But you can still read old posts on: http://n-gate.com/hackernews/2021/07/

(If you follow that link from HN, and the site sees an HN `Referer`, it will do a fake captcha load, so then click "HACKERNEWS" in the navbar on the right.)

spencer-p• 7 months ago

I do miss n-gate. I have to assume they are much happier now that they've ended that project, though.

neilv2• 7 months ago

The last post or so sounded stressed. I hope they feel better.

But in general, going to read a little n-gate was a relief when some HN comment thread went off the rails. Someone else could rant about the dumbness, and a burden was lifted.

relaxing2• 7 months ago

Author deserves an award for coining the verb “incorrecting”.

kitd• 7 months ago

I assume the age verification check when I went to page 2 is because I'm in the UK? If so, well played!

layer82• 7 months ago

I’m having this outside the UK as well.

beachy• 7 months ago

NZ as well - though of course we are a colony

horladoyin• 7 months ago

Love it.

ajcp2• 7 months ago

-> Rich developer spends $15k to run a model slightly faster.

I love these and I know this is all in good fun, but I feel like this one is a little unfair to Jeff. He's a content creator and he didn't actually buy the rig. If he's rich it's because he creates content like this.

pdevr• 7 months ago

It need not be a dichotomy. I also laughed at the title. At the same time, I found the original article useful.

ajcp2• 7 months ago

No, I agree, I just wanted to call it out.

kemayo• 7 months ago

It's inaccurate on two fronts: he didn't spend the money because he loaned the hardware... and the reviewed thing was actually $40k. :D

abtinf3• 7 months ago

Jeff’s content is way too high quality to make him rich.

stronglikedan2• 7 months ago

High quality content usually makes someone rich, and that someone is usually not the creator.

zamadatix• 7 months ago

Most of these are unfair in some way and many are wrong. What makes this funny is precisely that it has more snark than is reasonable (and often pushes bad assumptions as snark usually does!)

aeve890• 7 months ago

a little unfair to Jeff

I don't know chief, have you seen how many rpis this guy has?

KalandaDev• 7 months ago

Academic publishers admit paywalls were a scam all along :D

ionwake• 7 months ago

fabulous

dwa3592• 7 months ago

This is hilarious. if you scroll down to the bottom it says, "CLICK TO KEEP AVOIDING WORK". lmao. which llm is this?

yasserkaddour• 7 months ago

I feel personally attacked! lol

akramachamarei• 7 months ago

Entertaining and apparently useful, though of course not infallible. Given https://github.com/DGoettlich/history-llms it yields the title "Training AI on 1913 data to avoid 'woke' bias (and hygiene)". That the Honest Hacker News AI model has been trained on a dose of cynicism and intellectual dishonesty is probably hard to avoid...

voodooEntity• 7 months ago

11/10 would read. So much clickbait going around (and lets ignore the articles that "magicly" are upvoted but strangewise have no comments whatsoever.... not sus at all....

rcarmo• 7 months ago

Top level item for me now: "We rewrote it in Rust so you have to upvote it"

Love these things. Every time someone has posted an AI-flavor of HN it's been comedic gold.

fukukitaru• 7 months ago

I miss n-gate so much

laser92• 7 months ago

A good Friday morning laugh! I think the tiles are not just honest, they are brutally honest. Some of my fav ones:

- Amazon finally adds a feature that has been standard since 2005

- Texas accidentally does something good for privacy

Would it possible to add a feature where hovering over a title displays the original title?

linux2647• 7 months ago

If you click into the comments, it takes you to the real HN comments page with the real title

laser92• 7 months ago

Yeah but I'd need to click each of them, thus the request for that feature.

wormpilled• 7 months ago

I wanted that feature as well. Adds much to the lols.

samray• 7 months ago

I created a greasemonkey script to show the origin title as tooltips when you put your mouse over the title: https://gist.github.com/ramsayleung/ce854138e7663f5fdeb81345...

by leveraging this work: https://github.com/fragmede/honest-hn-tooltips

stivatron• 7 months ago

hahaha! very funny.

moralestapia• 7 months ago

Rich developer spends $15k to run a model slightly faster (jeffgeerling.com)

LOL ... and it actually ran slower.

hu3• 7 months ago

and it was 40k

byyoung32• 7 months ago

The training LLMs on old data to avoid woke bias was comedic genius. Something tells me grok is behind this.

keepamovin9• 7 months ago

Actually, it was Gemini Pro 3

byyoung32• 7 months ago

Google probably just distilled grok smh

alch-• 7 months ago

Man, how did I get by for so long without this. Brilliant. I'd like to have the whole web in this tone please, thanks in advance!

imiric• 7 months ago

Love this.

My favorite is the link in the footer:

  <a href="https://www.ycombinator.com/apply/">Sell 7% for clout</a>

wnevets• 7 months ago

Honest? Probably not. Funny? Very.

layer82• 7 months ago

This would actually be somewhat useful for the new page. :)

tediousgraffit1• 7 months ago

ok but how does it work though? Is this seriously just passing the titles to some llm with a prompt like 'roast this'? is it reading the actual content of the link as well?

relaxing2• 7 months ago

The year is 20X5. Despite the onslaught of artificially intelligent agents capable of understanding and synthesizing new concepts in written language, humans are still capable of basic cognition… for now.

delichon• 7 months ago

This is so damn good that I want to put it between me and the whole internet. At least selectively. Please y'all go build this.

An opinionated, tuneable, reader-agent.

eastbound2• 7 months ago

That’s it. It singlehandedly sold the idea of an AI browser to you. Like I now want an AI radio in my car, and we’re all putting AI between Google and us because Google’s results unfiltered are bad.

vpShane• 7 months ago

Go forth Mozilla, deshitify and enshiyify at the same time!

stackedinserter• 7 months ago

I wish we were that brutally hones irl.

keepamovin9• 7 months ago

We can try! :)

antfarm• 7 months ago

Someone built a tool to put all the snark and harsh arrogance from the comments directly into the titles?

654wak654• 7 months ago

That's it, AI has finally made HN obsolete!

headgasket• 7 months ago

Love this. can we get an honest title for this entry too? (I'm not quite happy with my 11l+ karma, please give me some upvotes so I can start the new year with a smile?) jk, great one, cheers

NoGravitas• 7 months ago

Makes me nostalgic for n-gate.

simonebrunozzi• 7 months ago

Love this. Make it into a chrome or Firefox extension, let people freely switch from "normal" to "honest" any time they want.

isodev• 7 months ago

Haha this is brilliant.

SSLy• 7 months ago

i miss the n-gate roundups

fogzen• 7 months ago

I love everything about this – the little touches like the logo, the content warning, etc. Thank you for bringing some joy to my day.

keepamovin9• 7 months ago

You're welcome! I'm so glad you enjoyed it

bitwize2• 7 months ago

(sarcastic David Spade voice) I liked this better the first time around... when it was called n-gate.

Still pretty funny tho, ngl.

WesolyKubeczek• 7 months ago

Cool, n-gate as a service

weisk• 7 months ago

"Do you confirm you are above 18 years of age (or the planet-rotation equivalent in your local star cluster)?"

i am so confused, whats the reason behind this little event handler?

ctrlmeta6• 7 months ago

The website has been made by AI. May be it has learned from its training that this kind of confirm box is cheeky humor for humans?

smcin• 7 months ago

Probably because a few articles contain curse words (which corporate filters may hiccup on).

arcfour• 7 months ago

It is a joke about how stupid and pointless pushes to require "age verification" online are. Such efforts have been in the news a lot recently.

keepamovin9• 7 months ago

You understood it! I’m so proud of you. Actually I think you’re kind of special because the reference requires stitching together some desperate signals. I think you’re pretty creative.

phplovesong• 7 months ago

Haha! Top post was just what i could think. "A rewrite n Rust post to get upvotes".

bityard• 7 months ago

I love this so much. It's like the El Reg editors got turned loose on HN headlines.

remywang• 7 months ago

Was hoping for a self aware roast: one weird trick to keep sending your LLM slop to top of HN (/s, I enjoyed it very much)

mikkupikku• 7 months ago

I miss n-gate.

S0y• 7 months ago

Now I just want to see what this post will be translated to...

CGMthrowaway2• 7 months ago

I thought the dollar sign button would be a donation button. Turns out it's the least honest part of the entire page.

morkalork2• 7 months ago

The least honest? A dollar sign represents exactly what ycombinator is about

ZebusJesus• 7 months ago

This was a great way to start the day over a cup of coffee, sometimes we need things that make as laugh but what is awesome is the titles are spot on. Thank you for making this Friday morning fun

keepamovin9• 7 months ago

You're welcome! This is what I wanted

matt3210• 7 months ago

Aka better hacker news

pvsukale3• 7 months ago

"Rails developers reinventing state machines for the 50th time"

Laughed so hard on this one.

diydsp2• 7 months ago

Its not even just Rails ppl. In embedded ive seen so many consultants say things like, "no problem. I just started working on the ultimate, perfect way to set up a state machine." Confidence theater

mtkd• 7 months ago

You can still look at almost any codebase and ask 'why is this bit not using a state machine here?' ... the AASM repo readme is very accessible even if you don't know Ruby: https://github.com/aasm/aasm

angryjim• 7 months ago

I like this a lot.

morkalork2• 7 months ago

What is the title for this entry now that it's on the front page? I can't find it

shevy-java2• 7 months ago

I am fine with the current layout, but I also have to say that I preferred old.reddit.com as a layout base (the new reddit UI is horrible, and reddit overall succumbed to willy-nilly tyranny of moderators on power-trips). I am not saying HN should change to become like old.reddit.com in the UI, mind you, but a few things could perhaps be considered. Using old.reddit.com was much more efficient to me than the default UI here. It is not the end of the world, but I would not mind small, slight, modest improvements to the UI (not only the front page, but all of HN).

Perhaps HN could make a few suggestions and changes and people could vote. It should be as conservative as possible, though, because while I preferred old.reddit.com, I also think that not everyone may prefer changes. So one should aim for the highest acceptance value possible, before making any change.

Aissen• 7 months ago

Anyone want to try a prompt injection? All we need to do is to get one or two story in the front page that have a good < 80 characters prompt injection.

i_am_a_peasant• 7 months ago

Lol this legit makes it easier to grep through HN. thanks!

krick• 7 months ago

I'm not even so sure it's such a useless joke. I mean, it is, and I wouldn't want titles to be like "Academic publishers admit paywalls were a scam all along" (unless ALL major publishers actually admit it, which so far they didn't). But I clicked on "Math nerd explains how to spend 3 days proving 1+1=2" and when it turned out to be a Lean tutorial I thought "Oh, that's exactly what I wanted!". I don't know why, but "From Zero to QED: An informal introduction to formality with Lean 4" I didn't even notice. It's such a boring and verbose title with lame attempt at wordplay that, that my brain somehow filters it out.

keepamovin9• 7 months ago

The clickbait you didn't know you wanted!

dijksterhuis• 7 months ago

CLICK TO KEEP AVOIDING WORK...

on point

jasfi• 7 months ago

Please add a 2nd page.

kazinator• 7 months ago

   s/Amazon/Atlassian/

amarant2• 7 months ago

The Texas one doesn't seem honest. It seems like a political narrative.

dxdm2• 7 months ago

I think it's a sign that you're being visited by the Ghost of Politics Present. ;)

Rf.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_of_Christmas_Present

amarant2• 7 months ago

So.. Does that make me political Ebenezer Scrooge?

I dunno, you'll have a hard time finding someone with less skin in that particular game than me, I'm not American and I've never even been to America (well, I switched flights in Chicago once, but I don't think it counts).

But a lawsuit for privacy being "accidental" because it's brought by a politician that's not popular seems difficult to interpret as anything other than dogma.

Being in the "right side of politics" doesn't automatically mean you're right about everything. And the reverse is also true.

Take Hitler for example: founding VW was a good move! He did that one good thing. Doesn't make him a good person, but similarly, all the other shit he did doesn't make VW any less of a good deed.

From the outside it looks like the same thing applies here.

Since this post is now on the front page, I'll suggest an honest title for it: HN front-page but titles are snarky dogma.

A lot of the dogmatic snark happens to be accurate, but that's besides the point. Just means it's good quality dogmatic snark.

observationist• 7 months ago

Bravo.

imvetri• 7 months ago

Thanks for sharing

robertheadley• 7 months ago

I love this.

blairanderson• 7 months ago

European decel mindset.

QuiCasseRien• 7 months ago

Rich developer spends $15k to run a model slightly faster (jeffgeerling.com)

The title are so funny ! I'm thinking to switch for the time ^^

gowld2• 7 months ago

Inaccurate.

Apple gave me access to this Mac Studio cluster to test RDMA over Thunderbolt,

Better:

"Engfluencer suggests you spend $15k to run a model slightly faster (jeffgeerling.com)"

Almondsetat• 7 months ago

I find these kind of posts profoundly uninteresting (woah, the n-th parody of the HN front page...) and yet they seem to always garner so many upvotes...

dang• 7 months ago

Anything meta has that effect. We normally tamp it down although we make occasional exceptions:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46221900

The curiosity value of something like this diminishes under repetition, of course: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so.... It's a bit like repeating the same joke.

We downweight follow-up posts for that reason: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

That, I think, is what's going on here. This post was great—it was impressive and original enough to clear the bar, so we left it up:

Show HN: Gemini Pro 3 imagines the HN front page 10 years from now - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46205632 - Dec 2025 (965 comments)

These two follow-ups are pretty good follow-ups actually—they're fun variations on the theme—but I don't think they clear the bar for another major frontpage thread:

Hacker News front page now, but the titles are honest - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46326588 (<-- current thread)

Show HN: Hacker News, but every headline is hysterical clickbait - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46324579

bitwize2• 7 months ago

Been downvoted (or downmodded) to hell now, I guess because it encourages "not the kind of discussion we want to foster here on HN"...

jvolkman• 7 months ago

Feature request: put the original title in a tooltip (or similar).

gowld2• 7 months ago

These are fun but they lose too much of the original content.

"Texas accidentally does something good for privacy"

is not really an improvement over the original (already half-editorialized) "Texas is suing all of the big TV makers for spying on what you watch"

manmal• 7 months ago

I‘ve channeled my inner Larry David into a prompt to make fun of y‘all

;)

justinhj• 7 months ago

Not sure if the source code for this is available but if you want to make your own version I did something similar that can be easily modified and run locally for your own festive mirth: https://github.com/justinhj/rudehackernews

meindnoch• 7 months ago

Brings back some of that n-gate vibe <3

forgetfreeman• 7 months ago

If the maintainer of n-gate.com is still alive and on Hacker News please, your work isn't finished.

perching_aix• 7 months ago

where "honest" really just means cynical, of course

fruitworks• 7 months ago

reminds me of n-gate

vintermann• 7 months ago

I'd like to see a version of the HN frontpage, where the titles are reinterpreted by that 1913 AI. "Imagine these are newspaper headlines from the year 2025. Rewrite them so that a regular person in our time can understand them."

mdni007• 7 months ago

I have to say, all of these titles are much more interesting than the real ones

teach• 7 months ago

Clickbait WORKS.

There's a reason it's banned in HN submissions

Ldorigo• 7 months ago

What's funny/interesting from a psychological perspective is that several of these made me click (and discover genuinely interesting content) on links that I ignored in the real version. Could you do this everyday please?

tonyhart7• 7 months ago

"Training AI on 1913 data to avoid 'woke' bias (and hygiene) (github.com)"

what could this mean???? and why 1913 specifically

mapt2• 7 months ago

A lot of these have a disturbingly subjective critical voice.

On a topsy turvy day, one finds oneself suspecting these are human-written instead of AI.

Reason077• 7 months ago

I’m also suspicious that it’s human-written, or at least human selected/moderated. It doesn’t seem to be updating very frequently for one thing.

If it’s AI, it’s very clever and nuanced: comedians should be worried for their jobs. If it’s human it’s still very funny.

daveloyall• 7 months ago

Thank you for a good laugh! Very well done. :)

raluk• 7 months ago

"Math nerd explains how to spend 3 days proving 1+1=2" -> Original "From Zero to QED: An informal introduction to formality with Lean 4" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46259343

imchillyb• 7 months ago

Twas brillig, and the slithey-news did gyre and gamble on the title. All manic were the Borogoves and gnome-rat's Anti-AI rhetoric in full recital. Beware the SLOP my son! The jaws that slurp, and claws that don't match. Beware the Amazon-nerd, and shun that Facebook Hack.

He took his local well in hand; long time the perfect pose he sought. So prompted he by the decision tree, and waited while the AI Thought.

Spaghetti. Meatballs. Slurp. Will I? No. Will Smith. IYKYK

absoluteunit1• 7 months ago

“We rewrote it in Rust so you have to upvote it”

I spit out my coffee laughing lol

keepamovin9• 7 months ago

This was the intended effect!

6510• 7 months ago

I feel cheated that it is only one page.

opem2• 7 months ago

brutal honesty

l1feh4ck• 7 months ago

I loved it. Could you make it more than one page. For everything in HN. I can only read 30 posts now.

TwoNineFive• 7 months ago

The word "advert" is nowhere on that page, so I know it's worthless.

At least half of all HN content on any day is self-serving blogs and plausibly deniable adverts.

pickdig• 7 months ago

why does the url say 2035?

snapplebobapple• 7 months ago

This is a massive improvement on hacker news, thank you

Hacker News front page now, but the titles are honest

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