Don't fuck with paste

https://github.com/aaronraimist/DontFuckWithPaste

by zettabomb • 2 years ago

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a1o• 2 years ago

Last commit is 4yr ago but I remember using this in the past

swayvil• 2 years ago

Ya, fucking with paste is a pet peeve of mine.

What's a good argument for fucking with paste?

freedomben6• 2 years ago

The only one I've ever heard is "security." Sometimes people try to "yeah it's because for security we don't want some tool to paste credentials or clickjacking mumble something malware hacking clipboard spyware javascript browser" but most of the time the truth is "our sec people need to show controls for hardening the authentication process so they came up with that and we just did it because it wasn't worth the fight"

I've also heard "being able to copy/paste defeats the purpose of having a 'confirm email' field." I reject that but it's at least somewhat logical.

ryandrake• 2 years ago

Too much gets justified with vague, handwavey "because security" excuses. We can't do this because... uh... because security, yea, that's it! It should be "Specific vulnerability or GTFO."

bogota• 2 years ago

A classic “save the children” argument of security. I know you aren’t making it but i have heard people argue this too many times over the years.

zettabomb4• 2 years ago

I consider it a reduction in security because it makes entering proper random passwords more difficult - either I have to paste it somewhere else first (and leave it in plaintext on my screen) OR I have to use a more memorable/shorter password. When I can paste passwords, they can be as long as possible and never are actually visible in any way.

MBCook• 2 years ago

That’s exactly what I’ve heard. In a discussion about this recently at my job they wanted to add this to some login related forms.

I pointed out this was obnoxious and I’ve heard in the past copy & paste can be important for accessibility though I can’t be sure first hand.

Security BS was the reason I was given.

The irony is our IT department tells us to use a specific password manager and copy & paste usernames and complex passwords because the app doesn’t have browser integration. I assume “for security”.

chrisfosterelli2• 2 years ago

When you have a confirmation field, like signups that require you to type your email and then verify your email, blocking paste stops the user from typing a typo and then copy-pasting the typo into the confirmation field.

Another use case is when you want the user to type in the name of the project or resource before they delete it, sites sometimes block copy and pasting the name to avoid having users get into that habit and make a mistake.

Personally I dislike the UX, I think it's too user hostile to 99% of users at the benefit of 1% that are making a mistake that's obviously their own fault, but it does cut down on support time I assume.

robenkleene• 2 years ago

When you have a confirmation field, like signups that require you to type your email and then verify your email, blocking paste stops the user from typing a typo and then copy-pasting the typo into the confirmation field.

This argument is indefensible. Browsers have had autocomplete for over a decade, Contact book applications that store email addresses have existed over a decade, password managers that also handle email addresses over a decade.

ssnri• 2 years ago

That just takes the argument from bad to worse. “How will I condescend to my users without breaking their browser functionality?”

Zero times have I been saved by this feature

wrs• 2 years ago

Mostly it seems to be a countermeasure against mistyping your email/password and then copy/pasting that bad value into the “confirm email/password” box.

Nowadays it’s a (hopefully accidental) countermeasure against password managers!

RheingoldRiver• 2 years ago

On the github "delete repository" screen or other extremely destructive actions, it stops you from muscle-memorying the confirmation and then accidentally deleting the wrong thing. Since you are actually forced, like really forced, to type out what you expect to happen, you won't delete my-important-work-repo when you meant to delete my-temp-test-repo.

eviks5• 2 years ago

You're forced to copy the name manually, which is just mindless typing, so doesn't force thinking, for that you'd need to provide some meaningful info about the repo to make it click that it's not a temp, or better yet make this actions undoable for some time

theflyingelvis2• 2 years ago

Seems like a cool idea but perhaps a slightly less offensive name would be good.

jfoutz• 2 years ago

seems like an unmaintained fork of the less provocative, https://github.com/jswanner/DontF-WithPaste

theflyingelvis2• 2 years ago

I mean it doesn’t really offend me but it would be difficult to say recommend it to my mom. I guess it’s just me.

zettabomb4• 2 years ago

IMO the very act of disabling paste is far more offensive but I get it. Not my project to change unfortunately.

pupppet• 2 years ago

Right up there with hijacking Ctrl-F.

tom_• 2 years ago

And overriding Ctrl+K without even being so good as to give way when you type it a second time. Assholes.

oneeyedpigeon3• 2 years ago

We're talking about you, Slack. (At least I can now remember which app is the one that breaks Cmd-K, but it's still annoying that I have to think that little bit longer to recall that info. every single time I press Cmd-K anywhere)

lukeholder• 2 years ago

Stripe docs do that and it annoys me to no end. They let you use the native search if you press ctrl+f a second time but since there is a delay it causes chaos.

dugite-code4• 2 years ago

Hell just hijacking any standard browser controls is infuriating when it catches you out when you're just not paying complete attention.

Edit: Apparently Firefox has the `permissions.default.shortcuts` config option

UNKNOWN: Services.perms.UNKNOWN_ACTION [0]

ALLOW: Services.perms.ALLOW_ACTION [1]

BLOCK: Services.perms.DENY_ACTION [2]

PROMPT: Services.perms.PROMPT_ACTION [3]

And in the site information panel you can disable the Override keyboard shortcuts permission on a per-site basis. Neat, doesn't solve the paste override issue though. Source: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1241294#answer-1...

crtasm• 2 years ago

A huge thanks for making me aware of this. permissions.default.shortcuts firmly set to 2.

strbean2• 2 years ago

Recently learned that if you Ctrl-F again after the highjacking, it brings up the browser search box.

Discovered this thanks to a site (don't remember which) that included a tooltip about this fact in their hijacked search box. I was curious if it would work on Redocly search, which has no such tooltip, and it did. I'm not positive if this works universally, or is just an undocumented feature of Redocly's interface and won't work in places the developers didn't make specific accommodations for it.

Env: Chrome + OSX or Windows.

pzmarzly• 2 years ago

It's a feature built-in to most browsers, same with right-click (if page hijacks right click, right-click twice in rapid succession).

notamy• 2 years ago

Ctrl-G and F3 often work to bypass that ime

dugite-code4• 2 years ago

I honestly didn't know about Ctrl-G. You my have significantly changed my life!

dylan6045• 2 years ago

There's a lot of keyboard shortcuts that mean one thing in the browser but something totally different in another application. Now that it is common for many of these other applications to now be a web app, these keyboard short cuts are possible to start colliding.

Take GoogDocs as an example. Do you want the browser's find or the app's find if you hit ctrl-f in a Doc/Sheet/etc? The vast majority of the users want the app's. Reading a news site, most people would probably expect ctrl-f for the browser's search.

Just pointing out that hard rules will always have exceptions. Except for the TFA's point of copy/paste. Stop manipulating my clipboard with bullshit marketing/tracking bullshit!!!!!!!

8338550bff962• 2 years ago

Then the vast majority of users are wrong. The correct answer is for it be the browser's find.

Maybe apps could bind their find/search to ctrl-s since it is incorrect for browsers to bind this to save-page anyway.

makeitdouble• 2 years ago

There are semi-legitimate cases where this is warranted. For instance when looking at a Notion database, standard Ctrl-F is almost useless, and document search needs to go through the notion API to return results, sometimes even related to the entries that are displayed on screen.

I say "semi-legitimate" because I actually wish they'd map to a different shortcut, but can see the case for user wanted the remapping.

This of course stems from earlier decisions to have that document handling style in the first place. IMHO it becomes a complex debate when on line between an online application and a webpage.

AA-BA-94-2A-562• 2 years ago

Shouldn’t CMD+F be reserved to searching the current document/context?

Something like CMD+K should be used for a more global search.

AA-BA-94-2A-562• 2 years ago

Stripe’s API documentation does this and it gives me the shits, because it seizes up my M2 MacBook Pro for several seconds.

I can’t believe that it’s 2024, and I can’t simply grep some documentation.

dotancohen4• 2 years ago

The Vimperator/Tridactyl (Firefox VI shortcuts extension) search / is not hijacked on the Stripe API documention.

ytpete• 2 years ago

Cmd-L followed by Cmd-F will always get you the real browser search, at least.

gardnr• 2 years ago

Jeff Atwood has an opinion: https://meta.discourse.org/t/options-to-disable-hijack-of-cm...

int_19h• 2 years ago

This is the biggest reason why I hate Discourse.

grishka• 2 years ago

I just don't get it why browsers allow websites to override their own hotkeys. I'm sure it even required extra code to be written to work correctly.

Linear hijacks Cmd+F for example, very helpfully providing some terrible thing instead of my browser's built-in search that works the same everywhere. (it's the same Linear that thinks you can't not want wysiwyg markdown editing)

nsinreal• 2 years ago

Well, for Ctrl+F there is sometimes a reason. Many websites uses technique called virtualization of lists. That boosts performance, but standard Ctrl+F doesn't works anymore properly

oneeyedpigeon3• 2 years ago

'Find in page' is now so broken on modern websites that the keyboard shortcut is the last of our problems.

PennRobotics2• 2 years ago

Bitwarden.

"Find in page" will only show a result if it is visible on the page (even though the scrollbar indicates the full vault has loaded, and even after scrolling down to the desired result and then back up).

They have a "Search vault" field that works fine, so it's not a major inconvenience, but the first few times I've Ctrl+F'd a newly added site and gotten "Phrase not found" when I know I added credentials? That's a mild anxiety I'd rather not have.

I could be convinced there's a security-related reason for this---in fact, I never really thought about it until now---but then I'd assume anyone able to get access to your vault can use Selenium and fill in the "Search vault" input field.

LM358• 2 years ago

I don't think anyone here can imagine my bewilderment, confusion, and ultimately anger, the day I discovered that in the web interface for Outlook, Ctrl+V is the default shortcut for... send email.

I would very much like to know what went through their heads when they decided on that. On further thought, maybe I don't.

Lio• 2 years ago

My personal hate is when webpages rebind scrolling to zoom.

I haven't used a mouse in almost 15 years. It's a constant source of annoyance when I try to scroll something with a map with my trackpad and it goes crazy zooming in and out.

stn_za• 2 years ago

So much this.

megous• 2 years ago

Used to be simple to workaround this with basic web APIs (el.value = 'whateverIwant'), until this newfangled web framework from Facebook broke the web.

alisonatwork• 2 years ago

This. One especially infuriating trend appears to be not even using the HTML input box at all, the JavaScript just intercepts the keydown event which then (deliberately?) triggers a slow calculation before eventually rendering a star in the text-field-that-actually-isn't, breaking even "auto type" solutions. So you sit there like an idiot every time you log in, with your password manager open and password unmasked, copying each character, laboriously, one-by-one. I can't fathom how this sort of thing gets by management, who are presumably told it increases security, but then apparently never actually try to use the end product.

Even worse is when the suggestion comes to use an app instead of the website, and then the app comes with its own dedicated keyboard that isn't your own phone's keyboard, because "security" and then they scramble the position of all the letters and numbers, making it even slower.

benmanns• 2 years ago

Ahh 00s/10s era ING Direct and TreasuryDirect. I think TreasuryDirect finally dropped the virtual keyboard in the last couple years.

jessriedel3• 2 years ago

In order to provide the smoothest experience as possible, the extension needs to know when you change active tabs. In order for the extension to know about that event, it needs the tabs permission, which Chrome describes as "can read and change all your data on websites you visit." That description is very scary, and is certainly not what this extension is doing. Being an open-sourced project, you can always read all the code to see how this extension works, and what it's [not] doing with your data.

The problem is that even if I read the code, or more likely chose to trust that someone has, it's not guaranteed to remain true for future updates. The author's scruples may weaken with time, or they might sell the extension, etc. (I think Chrome's extensions auto-update, but even if they didn't I'd still have to remember that this extension is one that I can't assume it's safe to update.)

junar• 2 years ago

Not sure why OP linked to a fork instead of the original. But the original has a bookmarklet version if you would prefer an alternative.

https://github.com/jswanner/DontF-WithPaste?tab=readme-ov-fi...

zettabomb4• 2 years ago

This one is the version linked by the Firefox addon [0]. Honestly can't tell if one or the other is better but I like having it automatically enabled. Considering it hasn't been updated for years (but still works) I'm not particularly worried.

[0] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/don-t-fuck-wi...

pimlottc2• 2 years ago

It is also not at all clear to me why it "needs to know when you change active tabs".

ipaddr• 2 years ago

You need to detect and stop sound. You swap out active memory.

Vorh• 2 years ago

I just read through the 65LOC source, and it's because it swaps out an active or inactive extension icon based on your active tab.

https://github.com/aaronraimist/DontFuckWithPaste/blob/8cb68...

varenc2• 2 years ago

I get around that by downloading the extension source and then using Chrome extension developer mode to “load unpacked extension”. Then I’m confident the extension won’t change on me.

(But for this extension I don’t give it all site permissions anyway. I just enable on site by site basis)

quickslowdown2• 2 years ago

That's terrible for security, but great for convenience :)

pants2• 2 years ago

Does Chrome have a "Developer Tools" feature for extensions, so you can dive in to the code and network requests?

styxfrix2• 2 years ago

Yes https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/get-started/tut...

Nifty39293• 2 years ago

This is a bit cynical isn't it, when the author is clearly being as transparent as possible about what they need and why, which is due to factors outside their control.

Of course you're right in a technical sense. They could do whatever they want later.

But still let's celebrate and attitude like this rather than criticizing it.

dotancohen4• 2 years ago

Sounds to me like GP is complaining about Chrome's permission model, not this particular extension.

lowbloodsugar2• 2 years ago

But WHY do they need that permission? They dont need it to implement the paste behavior. Looks super sus to me.

foofie• 2 years ago

This is a bit cynical isn't it (...)

No, it's called security.

Let's put it this way: there have been FLOSS projects whose maintainers intentionally pushed compromised code to unsuspecting end users. See for example the colors attack.

What leads you to believe that good intentions are enough?

beacon294• 2 years ago

No, it's well documented. Popular Chrome plugins, mainly free ones, historically have been sold.

shakna• 2 years ago

It's not cynical - see what happened to ublock. That kind of mess has happened, and will continue to happen, and should be a factor in what you choose to trust.

Beldin• 2 years ago

This has been used as an attack vector in the past: spot reasonably popular plugin; make author an offer; inject whatever tracking/other malwate stuff new owners want (typically after a delay).

So now we'd have to trust the author to do thorough vetting of a potential buyer and also not sell if vetting is inconclusive. And this against an adversary aiming to cheat their way past vetting.

Might be a cynical take, but it is not one without reason.

As a sibling comment points out, this is due to the permission model. This doesn't let the author entirely of the hook though: the permissions model created the situation, the author chose a particular path. The consequences may not have been foreseen by either, but they do exist and affect users.

bee_rider2• 2 years ago

It would be more transparent to be candid about the limitation of what they can provide.

It isn’t the developer’s fault that the ecosystem is dumb, but they could just note the limitation.

jessriedel3• 2 years ago

Nope. People are being asked to give a bunch of deep access to their system, it's not enough for the author to have pure intensions and explain why they asked. The user should understand the risks, many of which are non-obvious (like the extension being sold).

nextlevelwizard• 2 years ago

The thing is there is no alternative way to do this. I have written some extensions my self and often you cant do anything without having full read and write access to every page.

For example I have an extension that lets you right click an image and rotate it by -90/+90/180 degrees. All I want is for the browser to hit me up when there is a `<img>` tag, but that is not an option. Either I have to white list every page separately in the code or ask the user to white list every single page or just ask for full read and write permissions for every single web page the user visits.

hahn-kev• 2 years ago

For the lay person being able to access any image on any page is pretty much the same thing as being able to access all pages.

stefan_• 2 years ago

I have an extension to replace the "backspace for back" keybind they intentionally broke after 30 or how many years and of course it needs access to everything everywhere, because apparently they can't envision extension functionality that isn't "inject JavaScript".

enriquto• 2 years ago

The thing is there is no alternative way to do this.

Maybe. But this is not clear at all from the given explanation:

In order to provide the smoothest experience as possible, the extension needs to know when you change active tabs.

The "smoothest experience"... This is corporate wooden language, and sounds disrespectful towards the users. Why does the extension need, precisely, to deal with tabs at all? A smooth experience would allow the users the choice to disable this permission while still working correctly on a single tab (as the previous version did). If this is not clearly explained upfront, it sounds like bullshit, even if it isn't.

Maybe there is no alternative way to do this. But certainly there is an better way to explain this.

wanderingstan• 2 years ago

As someone working on an extension right now, I can definitely say that you only need the “ActiveTab” permission. With this, the extension only becomes active (and can interact with the page) when the user right-clicks an image and selects the action from the extension.

No need for full read and write permission.

jdthedisciple• 2 years ago

then u can simply clone the repo and locally load the extension ... bye bye auto-updates

Hackbraten• 2 years ago

That's exactly why I use my system package manager to install and update browser extensions.

And whenever the package repository is missing a browser extension I need, I contribute the package and take responsibility for its ongoing vetting and maintenance.

mrd3v0• 2 years ago

You mean the permissions system is broken and most extensions do suffer from the same issue?

Nah mate, we at Google, (bless them Mozilla crooks giving us control over their extensions), don't care about actual issues, we only update extensions to make money and limit user freedom.

1oooqooq2• 2 years ago

that argument only matters if you're using it on Firefox

if you're using it under chrome you're already working under the profit making goal of a failing advertising company. how worse do you think it can get?

js2• 2 years ago

For Safari you can get Don't Fuck with Paste (and lots of other Don't Fuck with X options) with the Stop The Madness extension.

https://underpassapp.com/StopTheMadness/

lancesells• 2 years ago

I was going to mention this but glad I found it. Great extension for Safari. One of the greatest things about this is you can change the options per website. So if you use something like Notion you can use their shortcuts just for their website and the default browser ones for everything else.

jiveturkey• 2 years ago

ty!

I use both safari and chrome (and dabble in FF), and in my safari usage I haven't actually come across sites that disable paste. I kind of assumed this was built-in to safari, but I may just be getting lucky.

But the best feature of StopTheMadness is that it defeats the google link tracking! I've so missed that feature of whatever chrome extension I was using.

stefandesu• 2 years ago

Came here to post this. It also works on iOS and on Firefox/Chrome on macOS.

kylecordes• 2 years ago

I use this similar but even older tool, which still works. This one is Mac-specific but works across most/all apps, i.e. not a browser plugin.

https://github.com/EugeneDae/Force-Paste

morder• 2 years ago

This[1] alternative bookmarklet was posted here a while back.

[1] https://bookmarkl.ink/ashtonmeuser/6e3869d8e468e016f22a4b4de...

dugite-code4• 2 years ago

Bookmarklets are seriously undervalued. This is a simple and more importantly readable fix for the issue.

reticulan• 2 years ago

i don't think they're undervalued compared to userscripts (with a dedicated extension for managing them).

al_borland• 2 years ago

I really wish bookmarklets caught on more. They can provide a lot of the value of extensions, without running all the time and bogging down the browser (or tracking the user around the web). The lack of persistent tracking is probably what led companies like Amazon to abandon them.

evgpbfhnr2• 2 years ago

I wish firefox would let the wonderbar '*' search feature work with bookmarklets... As it stands I have a few I'll never use because they're 4+ clicks away with no typeable shortcut.

freediver4• 2 years ago

This was one of those things that frustrated me so much that we ended building this natively into Orion browser (Tools menu -> Allow Copy & Paste). [1]

One of the joys of building your own browser.

[1] https://kagi.com/orion

ghostpepper3• 2 years ago

How would you rate the security posture of Orion compared to Chrome?

freediver4• 2 years ago

Along what axis?

torstenvl• 2 years ago

Well, there are apparently whole classes of JavaScript malware that Orion blocks but Google doesn't...

igetspam• 2 years ago

Brave has a "force paste" that I use now instead of Chrome and the linked plugin. I assume the motivation was the same. (What a*hole thinks blocking paste is reasonable??)

Good on you for solving this too. It's a nonsense bit of functionality.

serial_dev• 2 years ago

It's always incapable product owners and business people who don't understand security but think they do.

cute_boi• 2 years ago

The problem with orion browser is it is not opensource.

idonotknowwhy• 2 years ago

Cheers for making Orion. I don't know how you guys managed to support Firefox and Chrome extensions (on iOS) but it's amazing and made moving from Android so much easier!

freediver4• 2 years ago

Just the sheer determination to build the best browser in the world :)

quadhome• 2 years ago

Why allow pages to disable copy & paste at all?

musicale• 2 years ago

It's kind of a misfeature, but the non-evil idea was probably to provide hooks for customizing copy and paste (or other standard command functionality) in beneficial ways, for example seamlessly copying and pasting custom data formats between web apps, or between web and desktop apps.

It is a law of the web that any potentially beneficial browser feature will immediately be (mis)used in an abusive, user-hostile manner.

Spivak• 2 years ago

It's not about disabling it, it's about intercepting it by telling the browser that you're directly handling paste events and then doing nothing. The extensions just forces the browser default handler.

panja• 2 years ago

Sadly, I am not in that ecosystem :(

Solvency2• 2 years ago

How about an extension that STOPS websites from NOT letting me right-click. When a site forceS me to go through the stupid Chrome menu to laboriously drill down and find Developer Tools manually I want to throw it out the window.

kayodelycaon3• 2 years ago

There’s a stackoverflow question with some bookmarklets.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/21335136/how-to-re-enabl...

autoexec• 2 years ago

You shouldn't need to trust an addon for this, it's something you should be able to set in the browser.

In firefox you can toggle dom.event.clipboardevents.enabled

amethyst• 2 years ago

I wish I could selectively disable only the "paste" events, because it's extremely useful to have "click to copy this value" type of buttons in our various work tools, and I miss the ability to do that every time I try turning off clipboard events to deal with bad actors.

themoonisachees2• 2 years ago

The solution to this is to treat your clipboard as public in the long term. Don't keep sensitive data in it for longer than you need it. KeePass does this and it's great.

gruez2• 2 years ago

IME this breaks paste functionality in some web apps (eg. certain terminal emulators or text editors)

arp2423• 2 years ago

The worst is when it breaks web apps in really confusing, weird, and broken ways.

Slack, for example. Pasting becomes a complete clusterfuck. Things paste in the wrong location, incompletely, etc. I have no idea how they manage to fuck up "paste in a text box"...

Facebook Messenger also broke last time I used it where the tab would start using 100% CPU, but it's been a few years since I last used it, so don't know if that's still the case.

Anyway, I really wish I could do this per website. I have it disabled because GitHub started doing weird and annoying shit when I copy/paste stuff from comments and I absolutely hate it. But ... then it breaks Slack :-/

Cyberdog• 2 years ago

Who’s using terminal emulators and text editors in their browser?

Actually, don’t answer that. I’m afraid of the answer.

rand0mx1• 2 years ago

Or you can hold shift button while right clicking to force open menu.

aitchnyu3• 2 years ago

My bank bans right click in addition to ctrl v.

coremoff• 2 years ago

This used to break google docs copy/paste - haven't tried for a while though, maybe that's fixed

moralestapia• 2 years ago

Thanks for this!

Also related,

Who t.f. thought that

* Ctrl-V should be "paste with format"

* Meta-Shift-Whatever-Ctrl-V should be "paste without format"

I've never EVER had the need to copy some text and paste it with a different font face, color and ffs background color ...

Who is the genius UX expert that decided on this abhorrent behavior?

Solvency2• 2 years ago

I guarantee it's the guy who invented rich text fields and he just big dicked the fledgling UX team and because Big Development is incredibly paternal these crappy UX patterns never go away.

kayodelycaon3• 2 years ago

It’s beyond aggravating. I use a clipboard manager (PasteBot on macOS) set to paste plain text by default. I can pop open the history and do command+enter to paste the rich text version.

fiddlerwoaroof• 2 years ago

I don’t think it’s as simple as this: it’s annoying in the context of text editing, but when you’re dealing with spreadsheets or file managers or copying from an spreadsheet into a document or an image into a document, the rich object behavior makes a lot of sense.

I vaguely remember that really old versions of windows had a “live paste” feature where if you copied a range from a spreadsheet and pasted into a word document, the pasted object would update when you changed the spreadsheet

maple3142• 2 years ago

Paste with format is actually usefull sometimes. For example, you can copy from vscode and paste into Microsoft Word, then the resulting code will be property formatted and highlighted.

seiferteric• 2 years ago

Also annoying, not labeling your inputs right so auto-fill doesn't work.

nico• 2 years ago

Love this

Copy and pasting is such an essential part of everyday computer usage

Also can relate a bit as a developer, recently been struggling trying to get scrolling paste capture on a remote terminal with ncurses (wide lines, long texts, utf8 characters, can all be tricky)

DinaCoder99• 2 years ago

I've found you can also just disable javascript, paste, and reenable javascript again.

dkjaudyeqooe• 2 years ago

To work around this I usually drag and drop text pasted into the URL field or somewhere, on my Mac at least.

Can I just say though that disabling paste, apparently in the name of security, is the dumbest shit I have ever encountered, right in front of ultra short timeouts everywhere.

If only I could meet the people who make these decisions in person...

S201• 2 years ago

right in front of ultra short timeouts everywhere
If only I could meet the people who make these decisions in person...

For what it's worth, I was once forced to implement a half hour auto-logout on a website that could hardly be considered as containing sensitive data because an external pentest firm flagged the lack of a short timeout as an issue. The only way we could show clients a passing pentest was to comply with all of the findings. We all knew it was stupid but management gave us no choice but to implement it.

Nifty39293• 2 years ago

"management gave us no choice" - Would you have done differently?

"The only way we could show clients a passing pentest..."

BLKNSLVR2• 2 years ago

You must have had your shit pretty tight for the pen-tester to have to scrape that from the bottom of the barrel.

erhaetherth3• 2 years ago

Hah..you just reminded of me of something I implemented at my old company. We had a similarly short timeout, so I put in a 'heartbeat' that would refresh the timeout if you move your mouse or do anything.

BLKNSLVR2• 2 years ago

Even MS Remote Desktop doesn't allow it.

Why do they think password managers exist?

themoonisachees2• 2 years ago

Mstsc doesn't allow it because the login screen for windows doesn't have copy-paste. It's not that it has been disabled, it's that it was never programmed to have something in the clipboard before logging in. Still, they probably could load the thing first easily, but it's Microsoft we're talking about.

twobitshifter• 2 years ago

Here was a dumb one from me the other day.

- I had to use login.gov

- My password manager had a saved login for it, I didn’t remember it, but it worked

- Then the site asked me for an authenticator app code. I checked my authenticator apps and there was nothing there for login.gov.

- There’s a login another way button so I click that and the other way is use the authenticator app!

- I click what if I can’t get my code?

- It says I must DELETE my account.

- I click to delete my account and it sends me an email.

- The email says to wait 24 hours for another account deletion email.

- 24 hours later I get an email that allows me to delete my account.

What was in the account? I have no idea, but it seems that it must be sensitive for some uses of the login. But if it’s sensitive and important why am I able to delete the account, the most destructive thing? Why is an email enough for me to delete it but not enough for me to get an auth code?

wccrawford2• 2 years ago

I would guess that the 24 hour delay is to allow the real owner of the account a change to cancel the delete if someone tries to mess with their account.

That said, you're right. This is really weird.

m3047• 2 years ago

It's been too long and I don't clearly remember, but I think I had to use login.gov to establish an account for mumble. There was an option to print out a onetime pad (for 2FA); I chose it just for kicks. Haven't used it but I have it on file "against the day" I lose my normal second factor.

bobbylarrybobby2• 2 years ago

While an attacker being able to use just a password (and no 2fa) to delete someone else’s account is pretty bad, stealing information from their account may well be worse. There is a lot of personal information that I have that I'd rather see destroyed than fall into the wrong hands.

lolinder2• 2 years ago

For something simple like this that doesn't really need to be on all the time I've started leaning back towards bookmarklets over extensions. The code is usually simple enough to actually audit, it only runs when you click the bookmarklet, and it doesn't update underneath you without warning.

A few months back someone shared several bookmarklets that they use, one of which was a simple one that disables all clipboard events on the open tab:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38014653

eviks5• 2 years ago

But then you need to click

Also you can get the extension loaded locally, and it will never update

lolinder2• 2 years ago

I run into one of these broken-clipboard situations once every few months, I can afford to spend an extra click in order to not have an extension active on every website I ever visit.

SubiculumCode• 2 years ago

There is one thing I hate more. Its having my cursor moved to another application as I am typing out a password in a field. I've literally had to change a password after it suddenly got sent out in a google search when I wasn't paying attention.

eviks5• 2 years ago

Stealing focus should be a misdemeanor! unfortunately it's a pervasive UI flaw

mattmaroon• 2 years ago

Been using this for awhile. It works.

datavirtue• 2 years ago

I was paying my real estate taxes recently and the payment processor chosen by the county wouldn't let me paste anything. It was fucking bananas. I had to type in bank account numbers and routing numbers. None of the form filling worked. I was paranoid the whole time about entering the wrong data, and I wanted to punch someone in the throat for that bullshit.

iansinnott• 2 years ago

100% in agreement with regaining paste. Another workaround is to create a macro that will "type" the clipboard contents, simulating typing it out by hand.

On macOS you can do this via Keyboard Maestro [1]. Create a macro with the action "Insert text by typing" and for the text to insert use `%PastClipboard%0%`.

Yes, very niche, but I'm sure some HN users already use Keyboard Maestro.

[1] https://www.keyboardmaestro.com/main/

drey08• 2 years ago

In a similar vain some of the AWS console pages make it hard to select text and use ctrl^c to copy it. It often deselects the text as soon as you hit ctrl. It is extremely irritating.

BeefWellington• 2 years ago

Firefox has some about:config settings for this:

* dom.event.clipboardevents.enabled

* dom.allow_cut_copy

And also, the ability to force a paste as plaintext or force right-clicks to behave properly by using shift.

phyzome• 2 years ago

A couple alternative ways to paste, at least in my current Linux environment:

- Paste the text somewhere else, then drag it onto the text field

- Highlight the text elsewhere, and middle-click on the text field

I've only ever found one site that blocks both of those too.

aitchnyu3• 2 years ago

[picks up chunks of brain off the ceiling] Just tried: Bitwarden allows dragging and dropping (hidden) fields into text boxes.

eviks5• 2 years ago

At a more general level you can use a keyboard remapping app like Keyboard Maestro on a Mac and Autohotkey on Windows to insert text by simulated typing, though it has the downside of requiring a different shortcut

0xfaded• 2 years ago

Omg I was being interviewed on coderpad today and something was eating my ctrl-c. So frustrating

mr-ron• 2 years ago

Any time im in this situation i just go to the Menu > Edit > Paste.

Usually any overrides are preventing CTRL > V

Am4TIfIsER0ppos• 2 years ago

A menu? We have no need for such outdated shit in CURRENT YEAR.

- Sincerely every browser maker since 2010

gnyman• 2 years ago

Another app/extension which fixes this and a lot of other things the aptly named StopTheMadness https://underpassapp.com/StopTheMadness/

(No relation other than being a happy user)

reilly3000• 2 years ago

Blame ACH. It’s a putrid protocol that is far easier to get wrong than right. Once that daily file is pushed it’s a dozen people’s time to hope to fix a failed transaction, and there is no guarantee that the money will stay where it wasn’t meant to go. It’s one of those things the leaves you feeling “this needs to be better” yet it moves more money than almost any other means. All the upfront friction on users is to get it right should be some indication of what a catastrophe it is to fix.

cubancigar11• 2 years ago

Upi fixes it, but has cultural resistance in the west.

NavinF2• 2 years ago

UPI has no buyer protection and it's useless in the west because everyone here has credit cards

2d8a875f-39a2-4• 2 years ago

Should be more like "don't fuck with anything".

cyber-nic• 2 years ago

Extension for this might be a little overkill.

Copy whatever you want to "paste" in the URL bar. Then select that and drag it into the input that has paste prevention.

Ringz• 2 years ago

What happens with the url? If it’s gone will the form work as intended?

pjerem• 2 years ago

Fucking with past is gruesome.

Breaking back button is infuriating.

Yesterday I stumbled upon something even worse : breaking CTRL+F to replace it by a custom search. I know Google Docs / Drive does this but I tolerate it because classical ctrl+f doesn’t even make sense on their apps but here it was on a forum. I knew what a searched was on the displayed page but no, they forced me to search on the entire hundreds pages of the topic.

[/rant] Sorry.

afandian2• 2 years ago

Has anyone else noticed that copy / paste on Mac OS / Firefox has become unreliable some time in the last 5 years? I don’t know if it’s Firefox or Mac OS but I’ve started finding it copied the wrong thing or ignored a copy command.

yungporko• 2 years ago

pretty sure it's macOS. i don't use firefox but id say roughly 4/10 times i try to paste something i just copied, the clipboard is empty and i have to do the whole thing again.

marcosdumay• 2 years ago

I've had VirtualBox clipboard integration failing, and I've had Firefox refusing to let sites add things into the clipboard by Javascript.

But in my experience, local Crtl-C Ctrl-V is flawless on Linux / used to be X11, now Wayland / KDE / Firefox.

NavinF2• 2 years ago

Your keyboard, or more specifically your Cmd key, is failing

afandian2• 2 years ago

On 2 MBPs and 2 USB keyboards? Unlikely.

est• 2 years ago

I think browsers need to implement an optional <body onload="disable_javascript()"> feature.

Stop js shit after the page loads complete. Only enable js when user interacts with a button or something.

assimpleaspossi• 2 years ago

Do we really have to put up with vulgarity even on HN?

It's bad enough to see it in the title--cause someone will say that's what the title is--but, as can be seen, it breeds unnecessary vulgarity throughout this thread.

To see the irony of it all, I'll get fucking downvoted for fucking complaining about this fucking shit and maybe get really fucked up by getting fucking banned.

Do you get my fucking point?

geraldhh• 2 years ago

vulgarity in the tile makes sense, in your comment not so much.

if you don't get the point you may gtfo or make new account

mtlmtlmtlmtl• 2 years ago

I don't understand people who give a shit about vulgarity. And more importantly, people that expect other people to adjust to them. They're just fucking words. Lots of little things about the way some people write or speak may annoy me, like their dialect or some word/phrase they use too much, but the adult thing to do is to fucking deal with it and keep it to yourself. It's your problem, not everyone else's.

jjgreen• 2 years ago

You kiss your mother with that mouth?

koenraad• 2 years ago

By disabling user input the application security actually gets worse. Users that can’t copy e.g. passwords will use less complex passwords to overcome the trouble of typing in their initially good passwords. But also user experience is degrading when applications enforce complex input and users generate that input like a chad as they should. But now they cannot paste…

globular-toast2• 2 years ago

I'll add to that systems that require particular characters to be used, like "must use capital, number and special character". I prefer to generate longer passwords but using only regular characters because I find it easier to type on the occasions I do have to do that.

Even worse, there are some that restrict what kind of special character you can use. So even when I've generated one I still have to edit to remove one particular character.

Would it really be that difficult to display password strength and say things like "use more characters, e.g. you could use four words".

_0ffh2• 2 years ago

Even worse, there are some that restrict what kind of special character you can use

Even worse, there are some that restrict special characters, but don't tell you which!

Now you've got to go trial and error to find out which of the special characters in your password is not acceptable to that precious §("/$& website!

ssl-3• 2 years ago

Obligatory: https://xkcd.com/936/

(Those of us who know, already know. I'd like to say that we all know here.

But if a reader does not recognize "correct horse battery staple", then you're obliged to click the above link -- you're one of today's lucky 10,000![1])

1: https://xkcd.com/1053/

Y-bar• 2 years ago

Even Apple was so annoyed at this themselves that they actually went for a full open-source open-for-contributions GitHub repository at https://github.com/apple/password-manager-resources to get around these issues.

Many password managers generate strong, unique passwords for people so that they aren't tempted to create their passwords by hand, which leads to easily guessed and reused passwords. Every time a password manager generates a password that isn't compatible with a website, a person not only has a bad experience but a reason to be tempted to create their password. Compiling password rule quirks helps fewer people run into issues like these while also documenting that a service's password policy is too restrictive for people using password managers, which may incentivize the services to change.

atoav2• 2 years ago

For my own applications I typically require only three rules to be kept, two of which most users will never even encounter, the password must:

1. be long enough (e.g. 8 characters or more)

2. not be in the list of 10k most used passwords

3. not simply reuse words present in the username, email, birthday (if my application knows about it)

This keeps it open and only interferes with truly stupid (aka insecure) password choices.

Additionally I like to propose 8 passphrases to the user so they can choose one of their liking with one click (this also serves as a proposal what a good passphrase could look like).

JonChesterfield• 2 years ago

Shout out to forms which error out with "Password too long! Must be at most ten characters. All from this subset of ascii". Which seems especially popular with banks.

dwighttk2• 2 years ago

Also the rules sometimes show up saying you’ve violated them when you haven’t…

yes it’s longer than 8 characters

Yes I have one of your stupid special characters

Yes I’ve fulfilled all your other written rules

Oh… it also has to be LESS than 21 characters? Why did you not say that?

user3939382• 2 years ago

High quality complexity and password policy guidelines are provided by NIST and no one uses them. It’s called NIST 800-63b. Just use it!

bsuvc• 2 years ago

Requiring special characters is just another type of security theatre.

teeray• 2 years ago

You want to have weird password rules? Fine. Please make some standardized meta tags my password manager can find so it generates perfect passwords every time. Bonus points for a well-known URI facilitating touchless password rotation.

bondarchuk• 2 years ago

All I ask is that the same restrictions are also displayed again whenever I have to enter my password for login.

wccrawford2• 2 years ago

In addition, they will probably also still try to copy to clipboard first, since they probably don't use that interface often enough to remember its special rule.

bittercynic• 2 years ago

I generally agree that you should let the user use the facilities they're used to, but if you have a habit of copying and pasting credentials you'll be more vulnerable to phishing.

Firefox and Chrome's built-in password management tools would never accidentally enter your credentials on a lookalike site, but you very well might.

mox1• 2 years ago

And both of those built-in password management tools are actively targeted by credential harvesting malware.

indymike• 2 years ago

I generally agree that you should let the user use the facilities they're used to, but if you have a habit of copying and pasting credentials you'll be more vulnerable to phishing

This is like advising that glass sidelights be installed next to the vault door.

sbuttgereit• 2 years ago

That's all great, but then there are the times when they don't offer to copy the credentials where they should. Maybe the "correct" URL was too narrowly defined to be useful, or was taken from the setup context and is otherwise wrong for regular usage.... maybe the site changed their authentication process... etc. In the end, all of this tends to defeat the very resistance to the manual entry impulse you describe. If these password manager entry systems worked more flawlessly, your point would carry more weight... but having to defeat the protection your assertion relies upon is commonplace enough in legitimate purposes that it may well be nullified at all times.

In the end, as long as a site is going to use username/password authentication there will always be the need to educate users about what to expect sans the aid of tools.

PH95VuimJjqBqy2• 2 years ago

but if you have a habit of copying and pasting credentials you'll be more vulnerable to phishing.

non-sequitur.

getting phished results in the decision to enter the credentials. The mechanism for doing so is irrelevant to that decision.

xboxnolifes• 2 years ago

Different security problem, not one that I have.

bluish29• 2 years ago

For me this is annoying and I really hate websites hijacking paste. But it is more annoying on the phone specially when creating passwords with password manager. Does anyone know something that will work for safari?

Fnoord• 2 years ago

Hmm, if it JS, don't allow JS by default? uMatrix for example works in that regard.

MaxikCZ• 2 years ago

Is there a way I can tell my browser to always force draging over text to secelt that text, regardless if its a hyperlink?

flyflyFenix• 2 years ago

Hold alt and then select text with left-click drag. It works most of the time. Enjoy :)

out-of-ideas• 2 years ago

key words: most of the time

like when you get trolled by Atlassian's crap tier website where the wiki/jira-pages do not allow selecting some text blocks (and makes it even harder to tell somebody to browser-page-search for a particular string)

vault• 2 years ago

Anyone one else noticed OP got 399 upvotes for sharing a fork with no significant upgrades compared to the original repo?

delegate• 2 years ago

Oh yes, 3 files changed compared to parent and the changes are gitignore and updated URLs to the forked repo.

MezzoDelCammin• 2 years ago

yep. Quite the WTF

mrunkel• 2 years ago

Well, this is for firefox, and the other is for Chrome, so maybe that's a significant upgrade?

Aissen2• 2 years ago

Original repo author rejected the PR for Firefox support, so the owner of the fork did just that - fork to add 6 lines of manifest:

https://github.com/jswanner/DontF-WithPaste/pull/29

(I admit though that the unrelated .gitignore change had nothing to do in the original PR)

luzojeda• 2 years ago

IMO upvotes are due more to a "Yes, I agree, hate when that happens" than a "Thank you for this useful tool OP"

zettabomb4• 2 years ago

The fork is for supporting Firefox, which I consider to be a significant upgrade as I don't use Chrome in the first place. You can see the original repo easily, but it's far more annoying with GitHub to find a particular fork. I can keep it to myself next time if it offends you that much though, no reason to tell other people on HN about something I found interesting.

quitit• 2 years ago

For mac/iOS users on Safari, Firefox or Chrome: StopTheMadness is also a handy utility that tames these and other website bad behaviours.

https://underpassapp.com/StopTheMadness/

blkhawk• 2 years ago

This is why I build an external password thing that emulates a keyboard. Nothing some stupid braindead "security" implementation can do to prevent that from working. It does TOTP too. I had fun with hooking it up to my phone via BT for proximity unlocking. Part of its secret lives on the phone.

I wouldn't say it very secure since i didn't bother with implement a proper asnc encryption for the bt part. And its still vulnerable to a variety of evil maid attacks. My threat model doesn't involve that to ever matter. It should be practically fully resistant to remote full-take attacks.

tracker15• 2 years ago

This really irks me to no end with password managers in particular. I like to generate 30 character random passwords and sites that limit input or block paste in the verify field are particularly annoying.

Similar for login and 2FA entry fields. There's no good reason for it.

I've often gone an extra bit to ensure password managers work well. I wish more sites would do the same.

ggrelet• 2 years ago

I find passphrases to be better at tackling this exact scenario (and others). The password is long and secure but easy to type because it’s composed with actual English words.

visarga• 2 years ago

My peeve with copy&paste is that it often fails to copy, not to paste. I sometimes need to copy three times until I succeed a paste. Does anyone see this problem?

seqizz• 2 years ago

Alternative for linux users, which "types" the thing on clipboard to the window you select:

    alias pasteplease='xclip -selection clipboard -out | tr \\n \\r | xdotool selectwindow windowfocus type --clearmodifiers --delay 25 --window %@ --file -'

whywhywhywhy• 2 years ago

Find it utterly infuriating when devs feel the need to disable me autocomplete settings, spellchecking or paste.

Like I have a setting to auto insert my email if I type @@ and so many input fields have text complete disabled somehow despite me using it as a sure fire way my email is correct.

Disabling spellchecking or rolling your own spellchecking is the most egregious of all

lapcat3• 2 years ago

In Safari, disabling spellcheck also disables text replacement: https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=214493

nedt2• 2 years ago

In case of not being able to past I normally right click -> inspect element and in the console write $0.value="value from clipboard". Works almost everywhere.

Tampering with paste is kinda is like turning of autofill and the HTML5 standard is pretty clear when it should only be turned of: ".. particularly sensitive (for example the activation code for a nuclear weapon); or that it is a value that will never be reused (for example a one-time-key for a bank login) ..."

causal• 2 years ago

That plainly seems like a mistake in the standard that harms security. What's the reasoning there? That somehow human fingers are less prone to error than password managers?

The only thing I can think of is malware changing the value of the clipboard to fool someone into pasting the wrong thing - but if you open that scenario then you've got all kinds of ways malware could mess with a manually typed field too.

nedt2• 2 years ago

I see I was missing an f in off. The standard says unless it's an interface on a WMD or similar let the browser autofill. The part of one time passwords that might have been indeed obsoleted by 2FA. On the other hand we might still want a single user interaction there even if it's just confirming the full value instead of typing in the 6 digits - much like passkey is doing it.

pluc• 2 years ago

Just turn off Javascript with No-Script and selectively turn it on.

It makes the web such a better place.

amarant4• 2 years ago

Tangential at best, but this project made me think of evilpass, which is the funniest password validation scheme ever!

It probably does increase security, but it also gives the impression of actively hacking you.

https://github.com/kitzin/evilpass

graynk• 2 years ago

I normally just inspect the element in dev tools and disable the attached paste event handler. Not the most convenient way, but also I don’t need to do it all that often

2024throwaway• 2 years ago

I use Hammerspoon for Mac, have a shortcut set up for Cmd+Shift+V to actually type the letters rather than use the paste function. Works every time someone pulls this stunt.

hs.hotkey.bind({"cmd", "shift"}, "V", function() hs.eventtap.keyStrokes(hs.pasteboard.getContents()) end)

brushfoot• 2 years ago

I do the same with AutoHotkey for Windows. It's also come in handy in remote connection GUIs that default to the remote clipboard and legacy desktop applications with controls that don't support pasting.

reaperman• 2 years ago

I also do this with AHK on Windows, even using the same keystroke. Though I add a small 10-50ms delay between each keystroke, otherwise the input can get mangled sometimes.

naltroc• 2 years ago

Yessss this also solves for Google Sheet's overkill hijack

danlugo92• 2 years ago

have a shortcut set up for Cmd+Shift+V to actually type the letters

Seems like this would be hard to "google"... can you provide a guide or a link to a guide on how to accomplish this?

ihumanable• 2 years ago

Maybe try googling the very easy to google for "Hammerspoon" and the guide would literally just be the comment you are replying to.

rattray• 2 years ago

Thank you. I added this myself, but with option instead of shift (because cmd+shift+v already does "paste without formatting" iirc) like so:

    -- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39640745
    hs.hotkey.bind({"cmd", "alt"}, "V", function()
      hs.eventtap.keyStrokes(hs.pasteboard.getContents())
    end)

5ol• 2 years ago

Is there any way to do this using a Javascript bookmarklet? I'm on Linux (Wayland), and can't use Hammerspoon or Autokey / Autohotkey.

On one banking website (https://yesonline.yesbank.co.in/) that blocks pasting, even if I enable paste, pasted passwords don't work whereas typed passwords do.

bobbylarrybobby2• 2 years ago

Keyboard Maestro is also a fantastic app for this kind of stuff, and even adds a reasonable delay between keystrokes (something like 0.05 seconds) to prevent any weirdness.

fortran77• 2 years ago

My HMO does this, and I've complained year after year.

They also specify a limit of 15 characters in the text above the "change your password" field, but it actually is limited to 14 characters.

Imagine the frustration when you type in a 15-character randomly generated (from a password generator) password twice, and then have the system reject it because it is too long!

If I ever have any extra time, I'll see if I can sue Sutter Health for an "ADA" or similar violation over this.

oldandboring2• 2 years ago

I welcome this extension as I, too, hate when sites prevent me from pasting (eg. to confirm my account and routing number, email address, etc). It fucks with my password manager and of course it's annoying when intricate password rules are implemented to counter the use of weak passwords. BUT. Yeah there's always a but.

But. I have implemented these exact security measures into web applications. I've been handed the requirements and I implemented them. I asked my client why we had to do this, when "everyone" knows that this stuff is terrible user-experience and can backfire spectacularly for security (the same people who would memorize a shitty password and use it everywhere, will now write their expiring, "strong", impossible-to-remember password on a sticky note or save it to a text file or spreadsheet called 'passwords.txt' on their Desktop). The answer is: we have to, for compliance. To pass a security audit. To prove to some major client or insurance company that we have a number of industry-standard measures in place to improve security. Unfortunately, your bank does not care about the 2% of us using password managers. Everyone else is still memorizing passwords, forgetting them, and making jokes about it like it's 2003.

hartator• 2 years ago

The answer is: we have to, for compliance.

Do they?

I don’t remember seeing any compliance requirements you can’t reasonably push back. This is just overzealous compliance consultants meeting a team that doesn’t really care about their users. People never really question anything.

alex3305• 2 years ago

Do they?

Probably not. In my experience most standards are pretty broadly defined with hardly any technical requirements.

For instance in ISO 27001 it states that you should create awareness in your organisation about information security. A very minimal way is to send a mass email to everyone in the organisation or hang up posters in the office. But I also spoke to someone that was determined that a half day security awareness training was minimally required.

fredcy• 2 years ago

Our PCI-compliance audit dings us for not disabling autocomplete on the login form fields. That's not the same as disabling paste, but heading that direction.

For personal use I just abandon any site that won't let me use my password manager (Bitwarden).

kalupa• 2 years ago

you just abandon banking websites?

adolph• 2 years ago

You know that if paste-blocking countermeasures get too popular then the same sites will just implement virtual keyboards.

But I guess if that is to easy for folks with touchscreens then next will be the virtual mouse to click the virtual keyboard. Maybe add a randomly changing acceleration factor to the mouse to tell human and computer apart.

oldandboring2• 2 years ago

You know that if paste-blocking countermeasures get too popular

Considering we've had password managers for ~20 years and most people have no idea they exist, you'll forgive me if I'm not concerned about paste-blocking taking off in popularity.

alwayslikethis• 2 years ago

This should really be a browser config option or context menu item, among other things. Browsers today take far too much control out of the user to allow web developers to create hostile websites.

- Force select

- Force copy

- Force paste

- Spoof tab visibility ("Don't make me watch" extension)

- Force right click (Firefox has this)

BiteCode_dev• 2 years ago

What's the difference with "absolute enable right click and copy"?

(https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/absolute-enable-rig...)

jordanpg• 2 years ago

Somewhere on this site is a developer who thinks this is a good idea. Or whose boss thinks this is a good idea.

I'd love to hear a defense of this practice.

j1elo• 2 years ago

Merging the bookmarklet version of the upstream addon this one is forked from [1] and another bookmarklet that has been posted in comments here [2], I got to this:

    javascript:['copy','cut','paste','contextmenu','selectstart'].forEach(e=>document.addEventListener(e,e=>e.stopImmediatePropagation(),true));

Right now I cannot think of any page that inhibits pasting, what is a good candidate to test this out?

[1] https://github.com/jswanner/DontF-WithPaste?tab=readme-ov-fi...

[2] https://bookmarkl.ink/ashtonmeuser/6e3869d8e468e016f22a4b4de...

novoreorx• 2 years ago

I find it more annoying when a site prevents me from copying content from it, is there a sibling project called “Don’t fuck with copy”?

shufflerofrocks• 2 years ago

Lol it is for this exact problem that I added one more shortcut to my script

Ctrl+8 will paste in the latest item on my clipboard, and honestly it has been so helpful that I'm quite elated.

I recommend others running a userscript for themselves, this extension is awesome, but it's something that can be broken again and again. not really a permanent solution

BrandoElFollito2• 2 years ago

A bank had once the fucked up idea to require some characters of the password. It was a Polish bank and I know that another one there has the same idiotic idea.

So you had to write down your passwords, map an index (1, 2, 3, ...) to each character and check the ones that match.

But it was not all! You had a time limit!

These idiots disabled it for some time and then apparently reenabled it again.

I wonder, seriously, which education the inventor had and to which point his team was saying yes to everything.

Don't fuck with paste

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