Poll: Where are you currently living?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6582647

by Systemic33 • 13 years ago

1132 306 13 years ago

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wikiburner• 13 years ago

Other:

Antarctica?

I.S.S.?

Sealand?

Edit: Uh oh, New Zealand isn't covered.

Widdershin• 13 years ago

I'm from New Zealand, I just picked South East Asia, because that's where our game servers are. Would've appreciated an Oceanic option, OP.

Edit: Nevermind, it's Australia and New Zealand now. You can just replace that with Australasia, for the record.

namenotrequired• 13 years ago

I was taught the collective name of Australia and New Zealand was Oceania?

derrida2• 13 years ago

As an Australian, now we can call any famous NZ ex-patriots, "Aussies". Cheers :-)

ps. In school we are taught either that Australia is the continent or Oceania is the continent, encompassing Australia, New Zealand, Micronesia, Polynesia (of which NZ is sometimes considered a part of) & Melanesia. It used to be this way until I suppose FIFA started considering Australia part of Asia. Now it's just confusing.

If there were an Oceania option, folks in Hawaii could vote for team Oceania.

benjamincburns2• 13 years ago

I'd love to know what percentage of Australasia respondents are kiwis, as I'm heading that way myself soon.

seanmcdirmid2• 13 years ago

Wouldn't Australasia include New Guinea also?

xtrumanx• 13 years ago

Somaliland representing. (Although I didn't bother submitting to the poll. Don't usually bother voting on articles and comments either).

cup• 13 years ago

Wow its not often you meet a fellow Somali!

derrida2• 13 years ago

If rdl (YC S11) see's this, he could vote Sealand. Although I think he may of fallen out with their King and Queen.

yownie• 13 years ago

Iceland

gcatalfamo• 13 years ago

Italy (or southern Europe)

edit: thanks for adding it to the list!

mseepgood• 13 years ago

I always thought that Scandinavia was part of Western Europe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Europe#Population_of_We...

Systemic334• 13 years ago

It is, but I try to divide culturally, and Scandinavia is quite a different bunch from rest of europe. (I'm Danish myself and have lived in Sweden for six years aswell)

This is also why I decided to add southern europe, since they are also quite different from say Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, etc.

icebraining• 13 years ago

Unfortunately, it led me to vote for both options, since I only saw the Southern option after having voted for Western (and after all, I'm in the most western European country). Well, I suppose it's not exactly a scientific study either.

bowlofpetunias• 13 years ago

To divide it culturally, I would say you would have to go along the lines of Nordic (I've always been told including Finland in Scandinavia is a good way to piss Fins off), Latin, Slavic etcetera.

rtkwe• 13 years ago

It might be grouped that way for geography but culturally and demographically so depending on what you want to get out of your survey the distinction could be worth while.

prophetjohn• 13 years ago

New York

mindcrime• 13 years ago

North America, USA, North Carolina, Chapel Hill

shellehs• 13 years ago

Why? I think Chinese visitors should be significant amount

mjhea0• 13 years ago

greenland?

PabloOsinaga• 13 years ago

I wonder how these results will compare to the geo analytics YC gets for HN

feir• 13 years ago

China

abadcafe2• 13 years ago

Shake hand :p

zhte415• 13 years ago

Reporting in.

huayife3g• 13 years ago

Hello World

auvrw• 13 years ago

whoop, whoop!

true fact: among the 100 best-selling books on earth (circa late 2011), there was only one book related to programming.

unsurprisingly, the machine language was C.

the human language? 中文.

EDIT: 不少得, slangin it 从 the, uh, 那个, 四川. (为了说得具体). ok, 完了. 但是, 如果hn有一些城都得人, 真的, 发给我一封短信.

EDIT 二: 刚才意识hn不会发短信, 所以我的电子邮件相信是 ransom@cinafides.com.au

abadcafe2• 13 years ago

What do you said? You can type English As well.

AsmMAn• 13 years ago

You could to increase the countries list, BTW

systems• 13 years ago

egypt so i am in two places at once and wikipedia confirms it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Africa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East

tzury2• 13 years ago

Thanks to your link, I came across this movie http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3AMiddle...

grobe• 13 years ago

Mexico

Systemic334• 13 years ago

That would be the option Southern north america :)

vacri• 13 years ago

Trans-america?

shubhamjain2• 13 years ago

I am from Jaipur, India. Many I times I am detestful of the fact that I don't live in big cities like Mumbai or Bangalore. I don't hear of any programming meetups that happen here, neither there are any conferences, nor any startup that has bubbled up. The first thing that I want to do after my graduation is to move in to a big city because socializing with smart people is the most recurring advice I have heard for ambitious freshers.

akbar501• 13 years ago

Moving is a good idea.

I'm from the US, but I spent a substantial amount of time in India when I started by first company. Initially, we were outside of Bangalore (not by much), but enough that the company and I were disconnected from the city.

Around 2004 we moved the company to Bangalore, and I moved with the company.

It was the best move ever.

The cost of living is higher, it's over populated, traffic sucks, and so on in terms of problems. But it's where all of the action is and the people are.

Fast forward to 2012 and I was living 50 minutes outside of San Francisco (over the 80) and Silicon Valley (down the 680). I moved to into the valley to be in the action. Again, best move ever.

In general, go to where the action is. Your thinking on this is sound. There are smart people in Jaipur, but nothing like what you'll find in Mumbai or Bangalore.

Best of luck to you.

sidi• 13 years ago

I am curious, what were the barriers (apart from financial) like when you moved to San Francisco? This is assuming you moved your startup over to SF. I ask this since I am starting up in India, and increasingly thinking to relocate to Silicon Valley.

munimkazia• 13 years ago

Mumbai is the place to be for a lot of people, but maybe not for core tech and programmers. We don't have a very strong programming community here (though we are trying to build one). We don't have as many tech events and communities as Bangalore. Mumbai has quite a few startups, but again, there are far more in Bangalore. And the worst thing is Mumbai is quite a bit more expensive to live. The rents are very high, probably double of the Bangalore rates. And you don't really get higher salaries to balance this out.

This has been my experience with Mumbai. You may be happy here, depending on what job you get here, and what circle of geeks and friends you find around here. In general, it is a much more happening place than Bangalore.

Edit: Obviously, both of these options are far better than Jaipur. Bangalore, Mumbai and Delhi are the places to be for working in tech. You can probably add Pune, Chennai and maybe Hyderabad to that list, but that's it.

crucialfelix• 13 years ago

I'm going to be in Mumbai in a few weeks, then going through to Bangalore. I'd like to try to hook up with some people, go to some events and just check things out a bit.

So any tips for social events re tech/startup stuff in Mumbai would be much appreciated.

After that I go on a proper vacation.

vishalkrv• 13 years ago

Yes, Bangalore has lot of social and tech meetups where you can meet the like minded people.

jnaut• 13 years ago

I agree location is important.

I asked the same question on HN 1450 days ago, see the responses I got: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=916622

Jaipur may not be the best place to start at this point in time but it definitely seem to have some future promises to offer.

I would like to bring to your notice that Entrepreneurship/Startup radar has picked up in Jaipur lately. Several events, groups have come up:

Some examples are:

groups:

startup jaipur: https://www.facebook.com/groups/jaipurtechies/

ceo jaipur: https://www.facebook.com/CeoJaipur

startup saturday jaipur: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ssjaipur/

events:

Startup saturday event is happening every month

Startup Jaipur also meets physically , a little infrequently though, since December last year. And I plan to do hackthons and stuff under this (I am one of the founding members and an admin on FB), a little short on bandwidth though, would like to take the lead and try a hand?

CEO Jaipur the first co-working space for/by/of the entrepreneurs started some time back. They have space to host other events too.

Then there were some events from TIE like 'TIE mashup' that recently happened.

more events:

Bringing startup weekend to Jaipur is in process.

Overall, it's heating up but agreeably not as mature or vibrant as Bangalore, Chennai, Hyderabad or Pune. ( Lived and experienced the first three cities and their meetups personally.)

I am from Jaipur too and I run a startup ( http://startuplabs.io/ ) here.

Let me know if you would like to meetup and hangout.

shubhamjain2• 13 years ago

Sure. Would love to meet you, throw me a mail at shubham.jain.1@gmail.com.

hiharryhere• 13 years ago

Will be interesting to see how this progresses as diff timezones wake up. It's pretty Aus heavy at the moment as people like me procrastinate in the office.

dead_phish2• 13 years ago

Not to be US-centric, but it would be interesting to see the breakdown between East and West Coasts of the United States.

Systemic334• 13 years ago

I would have to agree, I shoul've thought of that. It would have to be in another poll. You can try that some time.

dead_phish2• 13 years ago

One day, when I have Karma.

jjsz• 13 years ago

Puerto Rico.

zynick• 13 years ago

Don't have enough karma so can't vote. I'm from Malaysia.

yen2233• 13 years ago

Malaysians represent!

karuneshkaushal• 13 years ago

I can't vote either. I am from India.

maggimeegoreng• 13 years ago

Malaysia!

einhverfr3• 13 years ago

I am in Indonesia (but from the US).

bryanwbh• 13 years ago

Hello Malaysian here as well!

izad• 13 years ago

Malaysia boleh!

bloometal2• 13 years ago

I hope someone is keeping track of the votes along with the time data. That might be very interesting, as well.

speeder• 13 years ago

Not putting Brazil there is kinda silly, specially when it is a country that spans so much of South America that I bet some brazillians will put north south america while others will put south south america... (Also important: brazil vs rest of south america is more relevant, considering brazil went with a fairly unique culture, ie: not hispaniard, also Argentina in comparison to the rest of South America has a very high amount of caucasians, making it also quite unique compared to the rest, although, ie: having a european culture mixed with spain culture, instead of the usual spain mixed with native america)

kutakbash4• 13 years ago

Southern North America (eg. Mexico)
Northern part of South America
Souther part of South America

Looks needlessly fragmented and imprecise. What is 'Southern part of South America'? Cono Sur? Then Brazilians from Minas Gerais and Porto Alegre are in different groups? Was that the intention? Why 'Southern North America' and not Central America? Where does Caribbean belong? Middle Asia (say, Kazakhstan)? Is Spain Western Europe or Southern Europe? Is Czech Republic Eastern Europe or Western Europe (since you don't offer 'Central Europe' as an option and some Czechs may be unhappy with identifying as Eastern Europeans)? Is Estonia in Eastern Europe? It damn well is in Eastern Europe, but some Estonians identify Estonia as Scandinavian.

Next time you guys should use some well established scheme such as this one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_geoscheme and just link to it in the post so no one is confused.

Systemic334• 13 years ago

I wasn't aware of that scheme, I'll remember it for another time, it would pollute the data too much to change it all now.

kutakbash4• 13 years ago

I guess it would also ruin compatibility with previous polls. Sigh.

erid• 13 years ago

So, where would Costa Rica belong, I'm confused.

kyro2• 13 years ago

I was shocked as well when I read that this survey was part of a randomized double-blind study sponsored by the NIH.

kutakbash4• 13 years ago

Ha ha good one. Being pedantic is a curse, yes.

seldo• 13 years ago

I mean, just calling it "central america" would have helped.

cstrat4• 13 years ago

Thats what I thought too.

zxcvbnmkj• 13 years ago

Central America is everything from Guatemala to Panama and doesn't include Mexico.

pmelendez• 13 years ago

Normally it is considered that Venezuela is the northern country of South America, so for me that fragmentation is correct. I just will add Central America to include the Caribbean and countries below Mexico.

irsouza• 13 years ago

Yeah, I felt confused, I live in southern Brazil. Is it south enough for the continent?

V-22• 13 years ago

"Is Czech Republic Eastern Europe or Western Europe (since you don't offer 'Central Europe' as an option and some Czechs may be unhappy with identifying as Eastern Europeans)?"

Same with Poland. The Western-Eastern distinction is an artifact of the Cold War, but it doesn't correspond well with the civilizational affiliations and historical experience of Central European nations.

Eg. Poland has rich traditions of democracy and civil freedoms - its Golden Liberty, and later, the first constitution in Europe - while Eastern Europe was typically autocratic.

Then there's being mostly catholic (and not orthodox), then there's the use of Latin alphabet (whereas Eastern Europe tends to use cyrillic), etc.

kutakbash4• 13 years ago

I'd say this whole regional distinctions thing is utterly mythologized and politically motivated. It's more like branding than anything tangible. No one wants to be associated with the less well off parts of the world and some want to add flair of objectivity to their purely political claims. Like current Russian and Kazakhstani govts pushing all things 'Euroasian', or German strategists inventing Mitteleuropa back then.

Strom• 13 years ago

I'm from Estonia and I had to vote 'Other'. I don't identify myself as an eastern european nor as a scandinavian. I'm from northern europe, as also classified by your linked UN geoscheme. [1] There is no northern europe poll option however.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_geoscheme

sampo• 13 years ago

I wonder if mostly anyone from "cold war Eastern Europe" countries identify as an Eastern European any more?

Estonians and other Baltic states don't, Poland doesn't. Czech Republic probably doesn't. What about Slovenia, or Croatia, or Macedonia? Or Hungary?

Also maybe Russians identify as Russians and not Eastern Europeans.

lucasnemeth• 13 years ago

Agree. Southern part of South America is very confusing, how south is southern? Is São Paulo south enough? Should I live in Patagonia to mark that?

bloometal2• 13 years ago

Can we not just ask pg for the data?

mfjordvald• 13 years ago

Might not be entirely accurate, I'm currently in China but will show up as being from the UK or US because of my VPN.

gregory144• 13 years ago

It will probably be more accurate than doing this poll manually (many people won't submit their data).

goutmaximum3• 13 years ago

Hong Kong

logotype2• 13 years ago

+1 Hong Kong

goutmaximum3• 13 years ago

Interesting, what sector/job are you in?

woutr_be• 13 years ago

+1 for Hong Kong!

niweicumt• 13 years ago

China

sTevo-In-VA• 13 years ago

I'm in Western Virginia, not to be confused with West Virginia.

iamkoby• 13 years ago

Israel

wwwwwh• 13 years ago

Singapore

madeofpalk2• 13 years ago

Found this in a previous poll. Graph the results http://hnlike.com/hncharts/chart/?id=6582647

webista• 13 years ago

Philippines

brothmc• 13 years ago

nyc

kyro2• 13 years ago

Haha, no love for North Korea.

seanmcdirmid2• 13 years ago

Pyongyang isn't that far away from where I live. I see Koryo planes all the time at my local airport (the only Russian ones there, I believe).

luiscvega• 13 years ago

Philippines represent!

mileschet• 13 years ago

São Paulo, Brasil

rl12345• 13 years ago

Porto Alegre, Brazil!

arunabh• 13 years ago

Singapore

sebastianrojas• 13 years ago

Chile

yla92• 13 years ago

I am from Myanmar (aka Burma) :)

tzury2• 13 years ago

Tel Aviv, Israel.

zerny• 13 years ago

Singapore

sethlesky2• 13 years ago

Chiang Mai, Thailand

peterkelly• 13 years ago

I was wondering why this wasn't one of the main options listed ;)

yen2233• 13 years ago

South East Asia is there, isn't it ;)

sethlesky2• 13 years ago

HN meetup in CM anyone?

sanukcm• 13 years ago

Woot! :)

MrGando• 13 years ago

It says Southern Part of America (Antarctica anyone?)... and that's kinda' vague.

It should say

Central America South America

I'm from Chile by the way.

benologist• 13 years ago

By northern part of South America do you mean Central America? It's a fairly well established group of countries between (and excluding) Mexico ("North America") and Colombia ("South America")!

Australian in Costa Rica.

pranavrc2• 13 years ago

Histogram of current standings:

http://quickhist.onloop.net/USA=601,Canada=104,Southern%20No...

cstrat4• 13 years ago

It would be neat if HN automatically provided something like this embedded at the top.

madeofpalk2• 13 years ago

Like this? http://hnlike.com/hncharts/chart/?id=6582647

filam• 13 years ago

I only mention it because I learned the difference yesterday, but that is a bar graph, not a histogram.

msohcw• 13 years ago

If anyone's curious (like I was), a histogram has a continuous variable for it's x-axis, the bars on a histogram correspond to bins of the continuous variable. E.g. 1-10, 11-20, 21-30. In a bar graph, the x-axis is usually a discontinuous variable, typically types, with no specifically meaningful sort order, e.g. in this case, countries. Also, by convention, histograms have no spaces between bars to represent the continuity while bar graphs do to represent the discontinuity. Correct me if I'm wrong.

xialeban• 13 years ago

China

benjamincburns2• 13 years ago

After Jan 3, subtract 1 from USA and tick an extra one to Australasia. I'm bound for Christchurch.

s0l1dsnak3123• 13 years ago

Scotland

DigitalSea• 13 years ago

I'm from Australia and know for a fact quite a few Australian's frequent HN.

charlie_vill• 13 years ago

Central America?!

victorhn4• 13 years ago

I guess it falls under "Southern North America"

albemuth2• 13 years ago

Or is it "Northern South America"?

fidz2• 13 years ago

Indonesia, anyone?

virtualpain• 13 years ago

hello there fellow Indonesian...

einhverfr3• 13 years ago

I am living in Indonesia at the moment (West Jakarta, probably not far from you). Might be worth those of us in the area who follow HN to do a meetup of some sort? (My email is chris.travers@gmail.com)

shirkey• 13 years ago

Hey Chris, I'm also from US and in the Jakarta area -- sounds like there's a larger community here than I had imagined. I'll drop you an email.

precilliaw• 13 years ago

awesome, hope to see people like me in jakarta, rama at wamplo com

graphzon• 13 years ago

Interesting, I'm also in the Jakarta (South Jakarta), how about hangout for Jakarta HN ?

mamaz• 13 years ago

count me in: hisma.mulya at yahoo.co.id

nicouze• 13 years ago

Singapore

victorhn4• 13 years ago

Instead of "Southern North America (eg. Mexico)", a better name IMO would be "Mexico, Caribbean or Central America".

joag• 13 years ago

Central America Panama

albemuth2• 13 years ago

San José, Costa Rica

x0054• 13 years ago

I think it would be interesting to see where people were born as well.

dboles99• 13 years ago

South East Asia

ddoolin• 13 years ago

한국 anyone?

graup• 13 years ago

Yeah!

drpgq• 13 years ago

Interesting that the ratio of Americans to Canadians is less than their respective populations.

flexie3• 13 years ago

Yes, I thought the same, especially interesting because I would assume that many Canadian techies moved to Seattle or the valley.

Also interesting that there are soon as many HN members outside the US as within (if this survey reflects the truth).

seabrookmx• 13 years ago

I don't think as many Canadians are moving to the states as they used to. The tech sector in Canada is doing quite well, and many of the American companies that people used to move down south for have offices up here (EA Vancouver, for example). Even in Victoria, tech is the number one industry, and the talent pool is good enough to support serious players in industry, locally or foreign owned.

scott_karana• 13 years ago

"Brain drain", possibly?

More likely selection bias though.

InclinedPlane• 13 years ago

It's a self-selected survey, it's likely that people who have a higher desire to have their country of residence represented would be more likely to participate. I suspect that Canadians fall into that category.

flexie3• 13 years ago

Then you assume that less US residents have a desire to have their country of residence represented. Why?

oak• 13 years ago

Pakistan

homakov• 13 years ago

Living in bangkok

Smirnoff• 13 years ago

Central Asia (incl. Former Soviet Republics)

antonpug• 13 years ago

New Hampshire baby!

talloaktrees• 13 years ago

Not that I really care, but you have no category that fits Taiwan. It is not really China and not Southeast Asia

PakG1• 13 years ago

Well, the fact that you take a stance on the subject's truth indicates that you do care. :) Taiwan's place in history is about as muddled as Palestine, Tibet, Ireland, and others, sometimes less, sometimes more. Some people take one side, some people take the other side, while I've found that people who don't care don't actually take a stance.

frankacter• 13 years ago

Which did you choose? All of us here in Taiwan should at least represent consistently ;-)

yen2233• 13 years ago

I've never heard of Taiwan being part of Southeast Asia to be honest.

a-priori• 13 years ago

One thing that Taiwan (i.e, the Republic of China) and China (i.e, the People's Republic of China) can agree on is that the island of Taiwan is part of China.

einhverfr3• 13 years ago

Wow, more of us here in SE Asia than in Western Europe? Interesting.

RBerenguel2• 13 years ago

It's still relatively early morning in Western Europe (7:26 AM in Barcelona, where I am.)

adnam• 13 years ago

Bon dia pel matí!

democracy• 13 years ago

It's 7 AM in Poland as of time you wrote it :)

Kurtz79• 13 years ago

They way they have defined Western Europe it amounts basically to France/Germany/Benelux/Switzerland.

codyod• 13 years ago

Nepal

odiroot• 13 years ago

Where is Central Europe anyway? You have added Southern Europe after all.

pguzmang• 13 years ago

Central America

xecutioner• 13 years ago

Nepal

D9u3• 13 years ago

Technically, I live in the USA... About 2,400 miles Southwest of Los Angeles.

dannowatts• 13 years ago

Bay Area actually :)

whoisterencelee• 13 years ago

Macau

serfdomroad• 13 years ago

Live in Melbourne Australia

mrmondo• 13 years ago

wisesabre• 13 years ago

Pakistan

sahilmalhan• 13 years ago

New Delhi, India.

danmaz748• 13 years ago

You can't have a "western europe excl UK" and then a "southern europe". Italy and Spain are for sure in both categories.

fbnt• 13 years ago

Ditto. I clicked them both. - Cheers from Italy.

danmaz748• 13 years ago

Ciao - Italy here too ;)

cliveowen• 13 years ago

I actually checked Wikipedia and went for South Europe, that's what it says.

personlurking• 13 years ago

Don't forget Portugal! Lisbon checking in

danmaz748• 13 years ago

Well of course - it's difficult to get more western Europe than Portugal ;)

StavrosK• 13 years ago

Greece is in Western Europe, even though it's pretty much the southeasternmost part:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Europe

danmaz748• 13 years ago

Yes, because the division has historically been more political than geographical.

p4bl03• 13 years ago

France too, depending on which part. If you live in Lille you may not feel like it, but if you live in Marseille you totally want to vote Southern Europe.

ChrisNorstrom• 13 years ago

NOT everyone who reads Hacker News has an account to vote. It would be really nice to have Paul Graham release the analytics data on for HN. That way we can see where all the HN visitors are coming from.

jor-el• 13 years ago

India

ledge2• 13 years ago

I live in Phnom Penh, Cambodia.

99% of the time I have no regrets about moving here from the United States. That other 1% of the time when you are sick or require the services of the police, it's not the best place to be. My insurance plan covers an airlift to Thailand in the event of a serious emergency.

victorhn4• 13 years ago

Are you the guy from Pirate Bay?

kzrdude• 13 years ago

I don't think the Pirate Bay people ever lived in the USA, nor do they want to come close.

ihsw• 13 years ago

Unlikely, he was deported from Cambodia.

ledge2• 13 years ago

Nope, he got nabbed in Sihanoukville, which is the touristy beach destination in Cambodia. It's a small enough town that all the expats know each other, so I've met many people who ran into him a few times.

dspeyer• 13 years ago

Given how many more votes US has than anything else, I think breaking it down would be warranted.

I'm thinking:

* San Fransisco Bay area * Seattle/Redmond area * Other west coast * Boston/Cambridge * New York * Other east coast * Chicago * Ann Arbor * Austin * Other noncoastal

ximeng• 13 years ago

Added a new poll for you - if you're interested, go there to vote or comment if you want the categories adjusted.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6583918

MRifat• 13 years ago

Jordan

buxx• 13 years ago

The Netherlands

codenut• 13 years ago

Philippines!

icemelt8• 13 years ago

In which category does Pakistan belong :(

praveer13• 13 years ago

HI! Indian here :)

You can come with us lol

asadlionpk2• 13 years ago

NEVER :D

jk4930• 13 years ago

Berlin. :)

jupake• 13 years ago

South Africa

volkanvardar• 13 years ago

Turkey

TheSmoke• 13 years ago

+1 from Istanbul.

jballanc• 13 years ago

+1 from Ankara (and sometimes Bodrum)

I honestly didn't know what category to choose... I think Eastern Europe, Mediterranean Europe, and Middle East could all potentially qualify.

batuhanicoz2• 13 years ago

+1 for Istanbul.

diorray• 13 years ago

drceng• 13 years ago

+1 from Kayseri for now.

lutfidemirci• 13 years ago

fatihdonmez• 13 years ago

+1 for Istanbul

ahmicro• 13 years ago

Hello World from Cairo - Egypt . anyone?

NemesorZandrak• 13 years ago

I live in two countries. Hmmm

raminassemi• 13 years ago

Bangkok, Thailand :)

bieh• 13 years ago

+1 :)

kmarima• 13 years ago

Kenya , in East Aftrica

batuhanicoz2• 13 years ago

As an Istanbulite (is that even a word?), I'm confused.

In day time, I'm usually in Asia for school, and some nights, and most weekends I'm in Eastern Europe.

Voted for Eastern Europe and Other (since this part of Asia is not in the list).

ciucanu• 13 years ago

Romania

zafarluni• 13 years ago

Pakistan

eblade• 13 years ago

Singapore

forgottenpaswrd• 13 years ago

Well, Portugal and Spain are at the most West of all Europe(Finisterre, Lisbon, Canary and Açores Islands), and Portugal is not Mediterranean at all.

ragsagar• 13 years ago

Dubai!

moncef_hbey• 13 years ago

Algeria

CmonDev• 13 years ago

Where is the Americas option? I mean there is an Eastern Europe option, why single out USA and Canada? Maybe it's worth singling out San Francisco / California as well?

techaddict009• 13 years ago

Hi, I am from India planning to shift to US but this immigration laws will never let me to do so.

Any workaround for it ?

buyx2• 13 years ago

"Southern Africa", by most definitions, excludes populous countries like Kenya, Nigeria, Uganda, Ethiopia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Africa

I think a better term would be "Sub-Saharan Africa": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sub-Saharan_Africa

Also, missing: "South Asia (excluding India)", which would cover an area with around 390 million people.

namzo• 13 years ago

I'm from Nigeria (West-Africa).. And while I agree that west african countries cannot be classified as southern africa, i also think "sub-saharan africa" is too broad.

buyx2• 13 years ago

I agree that "Sub-Saharan" is very broad, but I guess OP intended "Southern Africa" to be "Sub-Saharan" Africa. Unless the equator was intended to be the dividing line- which would make the definition of "Northern Africa" somewhat unconventional as well.

sjwright12• 13 years ago

Population (in millions):

  USA	316.8
  Canada: 35.1
  Southern North America: 176.6
  Northern part of South America: ?
  Southern part of South America: ?
  ...South America: 387.4
  UK: 62.2
  Scandinavia: 25.7
  Western Europe (excl. UK): 278.7
  Eastern Europe: 176.7
  Southern Europe / Mediterranean Europe: 153.5
  Russia: 142.2
  Northern Africa: ?
  Southern Africa: ?
  ...Africa: 1032.5
  Middle East: 370.9
  India: 1210.2
  China: 1353.8
  South East Asia: 610.0
  Australia and New Zealand: 35.6
  Japan: 126.6
  South Korea: 50.2
  Other: ?

danmaz748• 13 years ago

I'm curious, which Countries did you consider for Western Europe, and Which for Southern/Mediterranean Europe?

sjwright12• 13 years ago

I tried to follow Wikipedia as closely as possible, but stupidly didn't keep my workings.

My starting point was the full list for Europe. From there I split off UK, then split off Scandanavia, then split off Southern Europe, then worked out a plausible split for the remaining western and eastern. For example, Czech fell into my eastern pile, but could have easily gone the other way...

I didn't even bother trying to bisect Africa or South America, as I couldn't find any evidence for such canonical bisections.

Political geography is tedious.

p4bl03• 13 years ago

I also didn't know. I first voted for "Western Europe". And then I saw the "Southern/Mediterranean Europe" possibility and felt that it fits better so I voted for that one too.

elyobo• 13 years ago

I'm not sure where your numbers come from, but they're overestimating Australia + NZ by around a quarter.

From Wikipedia, NZ ~4.7 million, AU ~23.2 million, total ~28 million.

sjwright12• 13 years ago

I used Oceania, because the poll was implied to also mean "Australasia", which is a geographically vague term, but is commonly known to be very inclusive.

zizee3• 13 years ago

Population of Australia 22.68 million Population of New Zealand 4.433 million

Where did the extra 8.5 million come from?

wattson12• 13 years ago

The poll says Australasia, which includes Papua New Guinea (pop 7.4M), the rest would be from the smaller island nations I guess

sjwright12• 13 years ago

Hacker News voters# per million:

                   pop/mil votes density
  --------------------------------------
  Canada              35.1   284    8.09
  Australia/NZ        35.6*  283    7.95
  Scandinavia         25.7   151    5.88
  USA                316.8  1817    5.74
  UK                  62.2   190    3.05
  Western Europe     278.7   363    1.30
  Eastern Europe     176.7   155    0.88
  Southern Europe    153.5    65    0.42
  Japan              126.6    34    0.27
  South America      387.4    71^   0.18
  Russia             142.2    26    0.18
  South East Asia    610.0   110    0.18
  India             1210.2   196    0.16
  Southern North Am  176.6    25    0.14
  South Korea         50.2     7    0.14
  Middle East        370.9    40    0.11
  China             1353.8    61    0.05
  Africa            1032.5    26^   0.03

# As at time of posting

* Australia/NZ population is treated as Oceania, as the original survey implied Australasia.

^ Combined votes for northern and southern regions.

flexie3• 13 years ago

Not surprisingly it follows English language spread quite closely. The top 5 consists of English speaking countries and Scandinavia (where everybody speaks English as a second language). If the Netherlands had been singled out from Western Europe I would expect to see the density high there as well.

AYBABTME2• 13 years ago

I wonder if this high density of Canadian is a new thing. If so, it would correlate will recent feeling that HN's quality has been dropping. And we all know that correlation is causality.

sjwright12• 13 years ago

Updated results[0]#

                  pop/mil   votes  density
  ----------------------------------------
  Australia/NZ       27.6*    351     12.7
  Canada             35.1     385     11.0
  Scanda-Nordic      26.2     279     10.6
  UK                 63.8     497      7.8
  USA               316.8    2445      7.7
  Europe Western    191.5     719      3.8
  Europe Eastern    161.0     254      1.6
  Europe Southern   151.2     138      0.9
  Russia            143.5      49      0.3
  Japan             127.2      42      0.3
  South America     402.8     133^     0.3
  South Korea        50.2      14      0.3
  India            1235.3     288      0.2
  South East Asia   602.4     129      0.2
  Southern North Am 203.0      34      0.2
  Other             320.9      49      0.2
  Middle East       515.7      64      0.1
  China            1391.6      81      0.1
  Africa           1085.4      57^     0.1

# As at time of posting

* Australia/NZ population is NOT treated as Oceania, because on reflection I don't think Oceanic voters would have picked the question as posed. Oceania has been rolled into 'other'.

^ Combined votes for northern and southern regions.

[0] Source: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmufGoZ--XWedHF...

Intermediate• 13 years ago

I'm from Russia and happy to stay here.

andyhmltn• 13 years ago

I live just outside of London England (Essex for anyone that knows) and I don't think I'll be moving a while. Apart from the weather it's pretty good!

aaronsnoswell• 13 years ago

Fuck yeah ozzies.

MattBearman• 13 years ago

In graph form :)

http://hnlike.com/hncharts/chart/?id=6582647

atoner• 13 years ago

Berlin, Germany here.

ericcholis• 13 years ago

A little Buffalo, NY love?

vfxGer• 13 years ago

Dublin, Ireland

patrickk• 13 years ago

Cork, Ireland.

smcl• 13 years ago

Central Europe = "Other" I guess :-/

Edit: Actually, for the purposes of this poll Czech Republic is "Eastern Europe", just don't tell that to a Czech person ;)

t0mislav• 13 years ago

Croatia - The Mediterranean as it once was :D

enrmarc• 13 years ago

Spain here.

mentalsheep• 13 years ago

Spain

Sagat• 13 years ago

Wow thanks a lot for indiscriminately lumping together Western Europe in a single, confusing category.

olegp• 13 years ago

I answered the same question recently on Quora: http://www.quora.com/Startups/What-are-some-cool-tech-compan...

Hello to everyone else from Helsinki, Finland - we should organize a Hacker News meetup!

njsubedi• 13 years ago

Nepal

vladimiroff• 13 years ago

Bulgaria

fbm• 13 years ago

Greetings from Barcelona!

dutchbrit• 13 years ago

The Netherlands here

bernatfp• 13 years ago

Voted for Western Europe. Afterwards I realized there was a Mediterranean Europe choice too. Oops...

izqui• 13 years ago

Spain

thomseddon• 13 years ago

Ranked: http://hn-poll-rank.herokuapp.com/rank?post=6582647

hisham_hm• 13 years ago

Is Rio de Janeiro Northern or Southern South America? Where did you draw the line?

gnarbarian• 13 years ago

Anchorage Alaska

MichaelTieso• 13 years ago

Since I work remotely, I can live and work anywhere. Right now I'm in Sayulita, Mexico for 6 months. I've been traveling from place to place for the last 5 years.

alkagupta0309• 13 years ago

India is catching up.

arikrak• 13 years ago

It's hard to know if you're getting representative results. To get a reliable answer, one would need to look at the site admin stats.

_vn5r• 13 years ago

Northern part of South America = Central America

guruAllen• 13 years ago

china

majidazimi• 13 years ago

Iran

asadlionpk2• 13 years ago

Pakistan

gepiti• 13 years ago

Greece

geldedus• 13 years ago

Paris, France

riker2000• 13 years ago

Turkey

udithishara• 13 years ago

Sri Lanka

middle8media• 13 years ago

Greensboro, NC

Qmedia• 13 years ago

Kenya - Africa

alvivar• 13 years ago

There is something that needs to be changed in this kind of pool. Every time the same misconception.

- North America

- Central America (Northern part of South America?)

- South America

This needs to be common knowledge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_America

tokhi• 13 years ago

Afghanistan

Poll: Where are you currently living?

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