Curl will not accept vulnerability reports during July 2026

In 2026 there is a considerably cheaper/quicker solution, but that in no way invalidates OSS maintainers' right to enjoy a summer vacation without interruption.

Natsu• 1 month ago

I worry that this will make the bad guys focus on finding zero days during the month they have free to exploit anything they find, but I don't doubt that they need a break.

Cider99864• 1 month ago

Mythos found only one. Would have to be pretty serious bad guys.

https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2026/05/11/mythos-finds-a-curl-v...

bvcp• 1 month ago

if a company has a problem with this pay for support if its not worth the money …

victorbjorklund• 1 month ago

Pretty sure if you find a zero day in a software like that you don’t wait until a certain month.

prmoustache7• 1 month ago

The bad guys wouldn't have submitted a vuln report anyway.

shevy-java2• 1 month ago

Is this likely though? If you are an AI slop model that spams out finding bugs and vulnerabilities, would you want to become more active when you see that a project is not actively fixing bugs? Because in my opinion, it really would not matter for any AI model how active a project is, when it comes to FINDING existing loopholes.

In other words, I would always go at full speed (as an evil AI slop model) and most likely never release any findings of flaws and loopholes, so they can be exploited lateron. Bad folks don't want to be caught; remember the xz utils backdoor.

I am sure some AI slop models are used by criminals. And they may exploit things at a later time, but they most likely have found issues already. Not every AI slop model would report.

The notion of "the bad guys will now be more active" is strange really in the AI slop age. (We had the stone age; now we have the slop age)

Cthulhu_2• 1 month ago

Cool, then it's down to everyone using this library to figure out how they can minimize the impact of a zeroday in curl - security should never be down to a single part of a system.

Scroll_Swe• 1 month ago

A pleasant dose of humanity in decidedly inhuman times.

As opposed to when?

Do tell.

I see this crap so much online. You just want an excuse to give up and be a victim. I hear it online and irl. You young people are broken, broken yet you have everything.

How old are you, and where do you live?

Life is better now than ever. I in Sweden can buy everything, access everything, and I own my apartment. Problem?

As opposed to what?

WW1? WW2? Vietnam war and corrupt nixon? The cold war when Russians accidentally invaded Sweden? Nuclear bomb fear? the 90s debt crisis? 90s balkan war? And refugee crisis? 9/11 and all that? 2015 refugee crisis?

When?

What do you compare to?

The truth is, life is getting better. All the time. We had 10% unemployment in 2016 and even worse in 2008 when I graduated. Grow up.

ubanholzer• 1 month ago

This is great. Good decision.

vortegne• 1 month ago

Wish them nothing but good rest!

maxbond4• 1 month ago

Atlas shrugged, but only for a month. I kid, it's well deserved. I do worry about their contract work loophole - if people disclose vulnerabilities publicly, their clients may pressure them to ship a fix anyway.

Cider99864• 1 month ago

Why was this dead?

fc417fc802• 1 month ago

I've been noticing an unusual number of spuriously dead comments from accounts in good standing for a while now. My suspicion is false positives due to holding back the AI wave yet some of the casualties really don't seem to make any sense.

maxbond4• 1 month ago

Hmm. Interesting. If it was [dead], probably a false positive from a naughty comment filter; if it was [flagged][dead], difficult to say, potentially even an accident, or maybe people didn't like the joke. Given the non-negative karma, I would guess the first. Regardless, I appreciate the vouch.

intronic• 1 month ago

down-under says: enjoy your summer :)

flaburgan• 1 month ago

I can only applause this decision. Maintainers of FOSS project are constantly overwhelmed with close to 0 reward and with LLMs now the management of merge requests exploded even further. The fact that they actually keep providing support to paying users is enough.

patates3• 1 month ago

For the people here who want to do the same when they are vacation (be completely detached from work): Make it impossible for you to work! Leave your work devices behind! Log out of all accounts, remove 2FA keys after backing them up on paper and tell your partner to not give them back to you for the duration of your vacation, etc. I actually went to a country from which I wasn't allowed to work remotely. Crazy but it was that bad for me.

Signed: Former workaholic.

donw3• 1 month ago

As a manager, I will quite literally ding people for working when they are supposed to be off.

Work during work time, don't work during not-work time. Good practices mean that everyone is important, but nobody is irreplaceable, the team and the work will move along a little slower, but that's fine.

gertrunde• 1 month ago

Quote from my partner's manager before a vacation:

"If I see you log on, I'll disable your account."

xeonmc• 1 month ago

extremely relevant recent Kai Lentit skit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E7kBOH9owI

sevenzero2• 1 month ago

Being the only dev in a startup since 2 years without a single day off where I wasn't messaged by my employer I want this. At least I'll have a 3 week out of country trip where I do not bring my laptop later this year...

orphea2• 1 month ago

You're a good person.

My manager doesn't stop overworking. When told on peer performance review that we have people who are consistently overwork because they are swamped, he played it down.

But hey, at least he doesn't encourage overworking either.

throw930332• 1 month ago

Log out of all accounts, remove 2FA keys after backing them up on paper

Seems like a lot of extra work, just to go on vacation :)

I would suggest another approach. Automate your work, that you can work from your phone. I go on multi day hiking trips, or a week long family beach holidays, without taking PTO...

Edit: I do not get negative reactions. Big part of my work is to monitor system, and answer questions. I spend less time on my phone than most social app users! I still do heavy coding in office a few times a month. And I am self employed for nit pickers.

Work does not have to be sufering, you can enjoy it!

ro_sharp• 1 month ago

This is the ideal, but in practice you need to own the business to live this way..

Dylan168072• 1 month ago

You're basically saying to get a different job.

That's going to work in some situations, but it's not broadly applicable for many reasons. In particular it's way more work than the act of backing up 2FA and logging out of everything. So yeah, it makes a lot of sense for people to think that's not good advice.

kelnos• 1 month ago

Regarding your edit, you might be ok with going on a multi-day hiking trip or family holiday while still doing some amount of work from your phone, but many of us think that's a bad idea.

Truly disconnecting from our work is necessary for our mental health. When I'm on vacation, I want to be on vacation, which means not working.

Again, maybe you don't want to actually fully be on vacation from work. I guess that's fine; you do you. But I don't think that's healthy for most people, and regardless of health, many people do just want to completely disconnect from work for some number of days.

utopiah2• 1 month ago

> Log out of all accounts, remove 2FA keys after backing them up on paper [...]
> Signed: Former workaholic.
Seems like a lot of extra work, just to go on vacation :)

That's the point, this person and plenty others, are NOT able to "just" go and disconnect. If you can do that, wonderful for you, but please don't assume others are like you precisely when they are humble enough to clarify that they do have a problem and try to help others to overcome it.

nicbou3• 1 month ago

One of the reasons I left North America for Europe is that such things are normalised. The cultural difference is staggering.

In Germany, if you are on vacation, you are simply not available. You are dead to the world until you return. Emails do not get read, and devices get left at the office.

Another neat thing is that if you get sick on vacation, you get your vacation days back, because vacation days are for resting and recovering.

fender256• 1 month ago

Thanks for the reminder that this shouldn't be taken for granted. I am a German and sometimes this privilege feels so normal that it's unthinkable that it could be different elsewhere in the world.

naturalmovement• 1 month ago

It can honestly be annoying, if you're not privvy to it.

I remember years ago needing urgent support for some bespoke European hardware we were developing software for. When we called support, we were greeted with a phone message stating the company was closed for the entire month due to vacation. This was not a one-man operation; the whole office closed for a summer holiday. We thought it was a joke.

Needless to say we started to look for a new vendor shortly thereafter...

blauditore• 1 month ago

if you are on vacation, you are simply not available. You are dead to the world until you return. Emails do not get read, and devices get left at the office.

It's funny because that's kind of the definition of a vacation in my book. I find it weird that some places in the world handle it differently.

Note that it's also much better for the company in the long run: It's a test of resilience and redundany, the famous bus factor. It simulates what happens if someone is not available, and forces the organization around to have a backup plan. Having those is important for cases where employees leave the company or team (switching jobs/teams, accidents, sickness, parental leave, death, burnout, layoffs etc.). It's mind-boggling how many leads at various levels just don't understand that.

BadBadJellyBean4• 1 month ago

Not to forget that you get a minimum of four weeks of vacation per year with 30 days being offered most of the time.

This year I used my vacation time well and I already had 3 weeks off while I still have almost 4 weeks left.

Cthulhu_2• 1 month ago

This is how it should be though - nobody should be irreplaceable. Look up bus factor etc.

gacgacgac• 1 month ago

I'm a senior at a big tech company. You can do this in America too. Just communicate with your manager and set the boundary. "By the way, when I'm on vacation I'm away from devices, so let's coordinate beforehand if there's anything critical path."

SoftTalker2• 1 month ago

I've lived and worked in America my entire life, and in my approximately 40 years of working I've never had a job where I was expected or had to arrange to be available during a vacation. For the odd unplanned personal day maybe I'd try to check email and have my phone with me. But vacation, never.

jayd162• 1 month ago

if you get sick on vacation, you get your vacation days back,

This slightly blew my American mind but it makes sense. What about getting sick on calendar holidays?

dspillett2• 1 month ago

My company have accidentally forced this on me, and it is great.

I used to have a desktop that I could VPN+RDC into from my personal laptop or desktop to work away from the office¹. I've now got a laptop, that refuses to let me authenticate remotely and they have no interest in fixing that as there are other priorities, so I simply can't work if I don't have that laptop with me and I'm not carting it around when I'm already carting my own around (and if I'm not carrying my own, it is because it isn't a suitable situation to be bringing any laptop).

Not a workaholic, I don't think, but a 24/7 stress monkey when I think that I could be helping. Simply not being able to work away from the office actually helps with that: if there is literally nothing I can do, especially given it is work that has made that impossible, I don't stress the same way.

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[1] other than the VPN connector and the MFA doo-hicky on an old² phone, nothing work related, even Teams, even email, ever touches my personal devices

[2] a small old thing, factory reset with a dummy google account and just the MFA apps installed

thih9• 1 month ago

I now want to seek an on site role and request a desktop computer.

dust-jacket• 1 month ago

Not a workaholic, I don't think, but a 24/7 stress monkey when I think that I could be helping

I er... think you might be a workaholic.

But I'm glad for you that your current setup is helping :)

pjmlp• 1 month ago

Easy, that has always been my whole European life, want to reach me on vacations, pay for it.

davidgerard2• 1 month ago

Kai Lentit just dropped a video on precisely this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E7kBOH9owI

dminik• 1 month ago

This seems like a lot of extra work. If at all possible, just keep your work stuff on your work laptop/computer. And then keep that at home/at work. No need to sign in and out of 20 different accounts.

patates3• 1 month ago

This seems like a lot of extra work

Music to the ears of a workaholic :)

Seriously, that'd be nice if everyone would do this (and I do it now, very strictly) but I also know how easy for one to start blurring the lines between work and personal lives.

throw0101a• 1 month ago

Leave your work devices behind!

Specifically, if your job offers (a) to pay for your personal phone line, or (b) a work mobile phone, choose (b).

We have the choice at $WORK, and many teammates chose (a) as it allows them to save some money each month on their phone bill, but now you're basically constantly tethered.

5424582• 1 month ago

I think my POV on this is a bit different than what others are expressing… I don’t mind answering the occasional email while on vacation, but I view it as a fair trade - as long as the company doesn’t mind me handling the occasional personal obligation during work hours I don’t mind handling the occasional work obligation during personal hours. If the company wants to be strict about clock in/out hours or taking PTO for every 30 minute errand or the work trends in a way that routinely exceeds 40 hours per week total then I’ll stop doing work “off the clock”, but so long as they’re willing to be reasonable I’m willing to be reasonable.

BadBadJellyBean4• 1 month ago

The idea with vacation is that you don't think about work. When I start vacation I disable all the channels that people usually use so that no one asks me even by accident. There needs to be a time when you are completely undisturbed and disconnected. If you are disturbed by work you will think about work while you answer and maybe even after that. That's not good.

I also think you should normalize for yourself and your workplace that there are times when you are not there. If only you can answer a question then there needs to be better documentation. See it as a trail run for when you get hit by a bus. If they will struggle without you then that is a problem that needs to be fixed. If you are always reachable these problems will never surface.

Sohcahtoa82• 1 month ago

I'm the same.

If I can answer a question with a 30-second response to a Slack message, I will, and I won't mind it as long as it's not frequent. I won't join a call, and I'm only logged into Slack and Outlook on my phone, so if answering requires checking something on Confluence or Jira, I can't help.

Maybe I feel this way because actually being asked something is exceptionally rare. I'll be gone for a week and MAYBE I'll get one message.

coldpie3• 1 month ago

This is one of the reasons I work in an office every single day. I leave my work laptop there. I don't have any work software on any of my personal devices, including my phone. If I had the ability to check in on work things while out of the office, I probably would, so I make it impossible.

nunez• 1 month ago

This is exactly the move. Work and life should be separate. No work stuff on your personal devices; no personal stuff on your work devices. This way, you can be your best self in both worlds.

cmxch2• 1 month ago

Or maybe don’t have devices doing double duty such that 2FA and work devices can be partitioned out from any incidental personal use. That way, even if you have one half of it, you still don’t have enough to attempt work.

oasisbob• 1 month ago

Lock-out vacations were one of my favorite things about being at a bank. Auditors cared about the ability for employees to keep a thumb on the scale, so it was a policy requirement that all workers with a certain amount of access needed to take an uninterrupted vacation of N days, with login ability disabled.

Fantastic tool for shaking out hidden bus factors.

laszlojamf• 1 month ago

as much as I feel for the maintainers here, this sort of (again) puts the spotlight on our collective dependence on a handful of individuals basically working for free _with no backup_. Most normal organizations stagger vacations to avoid these things. Most normal organizations _have_ to do this, because their customers require it. Here, we're all customers of curl, but not really. It's a weird, IMO unhealthy, twilight zone that isn't good for anybody. And it surprises - and saddens - me that not even friggin curl has the financial muscles to have somebody on-call for one month...

Nnnes• 1 month ago

They do.

Everyone with a paid support contracts will of course still get full and appropriate service even during this period.

ed_elliott_asc• 1 month ago

They do, he said at the end if you have a support contract then they will respond and deal with security issues.

I guess the whole point of the article is to show that people should buy a support contract if they need support.

necovek4• 1 month ago

You'd be surprised to learn this about free and open source software, but if a maintainer is unavailable, you have both full rights and full source code to... wait for it... fix it yourself (or pay someone to)!

There is something unhealthy in this relationship only if you project "no warranty" into unrealistic expectations.

ValdikSS• 1 month ago

This is true for the majority of open-source projects, but the most serious ones, on which a lot of software/businesses/infrastructure depends, are controlled by foundations or some kind of other management entity.

cURL also offers paid support and also paid access to the rock-solid (LTS) version, with guaranteed response times, and the blog post states that there's still people to respond to these.

IshKebab2• 1 month ago

You don't really though. Sure you can fork it and fix your issue, but then what? Are you going to maintain your fork in perpetuity? Are you going to patch all the software that depends on the code you fixed to use your version instead of upstream? Are you going to get your users to do that too?

In most cases this is extremely impractical.

4ndrewl• 1 month ago

It does. The article clearly says that if you have a paid support contract they will be on-call as per usual.

Imustaskforhelp3• 1 month ago

The thing which bugs me is that OpenAI (which is an unprofitable company) is spending around what 100k$ per month for an completely AI generated slop called Openclaw. (All because of Hype)

I have seen there to be an more influx of open source software as people are starting to create more software with vibe-coding and other things and just open-sourcing it, which while good in OSS'ing it but its mostly less valuable as compared to the curl codebase which was created by hand and over the years improved itself.

Yet the funding is going towards making more and more (OSS/non-OSS) AI slop by people, companies and dare I say countries yet we are unable to take the same wealth and money into, say, the curl project (and the likes)

There is also an visibility issue. We all know curl and this is the state of curl. Imagine all the projects which we all don't know that much about or aware about going through same issues.

l23k43• 1 month ago

The thing which bugs me is that OpenAI (which is an unprofitable company) is spending around what 100k$ per month for an completely AI generated slop called Openclaw. (All because of Hype)

For whatever reason, real people seem to desperately want Openclaw regardless of it being AI generated slop.

OpenAI is certainly not wasting the money they're spending on Openclaw, even if I personally wouldn't want to touch that particular piece of software.

simooooo• 1 month ago

I wonder how far we are from the agents just maintaining the packages

inigyou10• 1 month ago

We have some packages like that, starting with rsync which distributions are having to roll back because it turned into a pile of garbage overnight.

bawolff3• 1 month ago

And it surprises - and saddens - me that not even friggin curl has the financial muscles to have somebody on-call for one month...

Is it that they can't or don't want to. I'm sure curl is popular enough that it could attract a co-maintainer if it wanted to. Of course there is a cost to that. Software projects done effectively by a single person are often more focused and designed more coherently. I'm not sure curl would be as good a product if there were multiple maintainers with potentially conflicting visions.

andylynch• 1 month ago

They do. You just seem to expect that it will somehow be free.

simjnd• 1 month ago

And I'm assuming you're not going to pay for them to have that someone on-call, even though you're worried about this scenario

eviks3• 1 month ago

Consumers, not customers

serial_dev• 1 month ago

Reminder: ‘the software is provided “as is”…’.

It’s not their problem that you, or anybody else, think you are owed 24/7/365 emergency support.

rustyhancock2• 1 month ago

A curious approach, but I like it!

Wonder if this means just publishing vulnerablities without contact with curl team would be responsible (you have no other path to tell vulnerable users)

MatthewWilkes• 1 month ago

I think very few people would consider that to be responsible disclosure. The common practice is to allow 90 days as a minimum.

rustyhancock2• 1 month ago

I think I'd personally develop a minimal patch and then publically disclose.

I'm not sure it's be reasonable to leave an actively exploited critical bug until August. Nor would I be too interested in playing middle man or paying for support from curl to get it out.

akerl_3• 1 month ago

Reminder that what you're describing is "coordinated disclosure", and that there are in fact plenty of people who consider "full disclosure" to be preferable in some or all cases.

cmxch2• 1 month ago

Just publish early due to a documented lack of cooperation. They don’t have to answer, but you dont have to wait.

Naturally some people find that this offensive since this puts a price to that “bliss”.

Dylan168072• 1 month ago

Taking 1/3 of the standard time budget to get back to you isn't ideal, but it's not "a documented lack of cooperation".

And if you find something halfway through the month then oh no two weeks to reply, that's basically a standard business interaction at that point.

chias• 1 month ago

There are no "rules" for responsible disclosure. We have guidelines that we have broadly accepted, but at the end of the day whether or not you discussed responsibly is in the opinion of your peers.

There's no such thing as "responsible disclosure on a technicality". Don't be a dick, and work in good faith to keep users safe.

DonHopkins• 1 month ago

Wrong, but thanks for documenting how uncooperative you are.

maxbond4• 1 month ago

Why are you interpreting clear communication of a window of downtime with 2 weeks notice as a "lack of cooperation"? That's what cooperation looks like. It's not explicit but my read was that they're not even taking a vacation - they're just doing the rest of their job, a lot of which is probably going to be shipping fixes for vulnerabilities that are already triaged.

SweetSoftPillow• 1 month ago

It would certainly be irresponsible.

The responsible thing would have been to simply wait another month, considering you've been warned about the delay.

john_strinlai• 1 month ago

the vulnerability is there whether disclosed or not. if you find it, someone else has too. sitting on it is the irresponsible thing.

CamouflagedKiwi• 1 month ago

Given that most of those users will not be capable of patching it directly, no, that seems like it would be irresponsible.

prmoustache7• 1 month ago

Why not? Only a tiny fraction of curl user get it from the upstream website/repo. Most users get curl/libcurl from their OS/application vendor or package manager, all of them having their own maintainers. There is no reason a temporary patch couldn't be produced by them in the meantime.

low_tech_love2• 1 month ago

I read one sentence into this and knew directly that the developer must’ve been Swedish!

robin_reala• 1 month ago

For people who aren’t familiar, Sweden takes summer holidays seriously. 25-30 days + public holidays is a normal amount of annual vacation time, and if an employee requests it and has the time available, it’s basically legally required to allow them to take a four-week contiguous summer break.

(See https://www.riksdagen.se/sv/dokument-och-lagar/dokument/sven...)

low_tech_love2• 1 month ago

Not only that but the vacation is real. If someone is off then you should not expect them to answer at all (because if you do you’ll get very disappointed).

stavros• 1 month ago

I work for a UK company and most people take basically all of August off (I end up with two months of vacation days a year so I take August off and sprinkle some leave around the year) and I can confirm that taking a month off is great. You forget what it's like to work, really.

defrost3• 1 month ago

Ditto Australia: https://www.fairwork.gov.au/leave/annual-leave

  Full-time and part-time employees get 4 weeks of annual leave, based on their ordinary hours of work.

askonomm• 1 month ago

I thought it's basically the same in all of EU?

inigyou10• 1 month ago

This is normal in most countries apart from the contiguous break requirement.

nsbk• 1 month ago

Hahaha yeah same here! My $dayjob has offices in Sweden and their summer breaks are legendary. We also have offices in the US, and the culture shock with the Americans never gets old

pdnagilum• 1 month ago

Yup, same thought in Norwegian. Norway basically shuts down during July.

on_the_train• 1 month ago

I knew instantly that it's him. No one is even remotely as hungry for attention as him.

tempay• 1 month ago

For anyone who thinks this might matter for security:

* curl is mature enough that the chance of an impactful bug is basically zero * if there is such a bug, I'm sure someone will figure out how to get in touch with Daniel and co * if there is such a bug, it's more important that it gets patched in package managers and rolled out. Upstream releases can wait.

veltas• 1 month ago

if there is such a bug, I'm sure someone will figure out how to get in touch with Daniel and co

No, that is the point, they are not going to accept your vuln report. They are taking a holiday.

Sharlin• 1 month ago

Except if you pay them for a support contract. So there is a way, and it's actually a pretty obvious way.

squigz• 1 month ago

There's a pretty big difference between a random report submitted via email, and, say, a close friend of the maintainers letting them know a serious vuln was found and they should login.

swiftcoder5• 1 month ago

curl is mature enough that the chance of an impactful bug is basically zero

Curl is also something that should be thoroughly sandboxed to begin with, because even if there are no vulnerabilities in curl itself, its a tool for downloading arbitrary data over the internet, and you may well accidentally trigger vulnerabilities in every other part of your environment just by downloading arbitrary data to your shell...

inigyou10• 1 month ago

curl is the sandbox. It exchanges packets with the internet and then outputs a safely sanitized byte stream.

NietTim• 1 month ago

Properly euromaxxing, this is the way.

vessenes• 1 month ago

The headline buried the lede -- this is a way to get some summer vacation (niiice) AND encourage enterprise support contracts, which will still have availability. I don't think I've heard of this particular open source / support / summer vacation business model before but I like it!

plantain• 1 month ago

It's an extremely un-European approach. European companies normally ignore their paid customers too from May to August.

prmoustache7• 1 month ago

ignore is not the right word.

abc123abc123• 1 month ago

Incorrect. In europe, either july or august, is the informally agreed upon "vacation month" which means that both customers and vendors scale down and go on vacation, and work slows down to very low levels. That means you need a lot less employees than usual in order to provide for the customers that do not go on vacation.

pinkgolem• 1 month ago

I mean, looking at most us company's.. What support?

throwaw122• 1 month ago

I liked the idea as well, maybe OSS should adopt 6 months availability and 6 months for enterprise support schedule. This way both could benefit, OSS gets more funding, enterprise gets support (cheaper than hiring full-time employee for specific OSS)

charcircuit• 1 month ago

Until someone races to the bottom to do 12 months of availability.

bijowo1676• 1 month ago

nice idea to time vacation in the summar, right around major security conferences (blackhat, defcon, etc), when large bulk of CVEs get published, to put some fire under the enterprise butts

theandrewbailey2• 1 month ago

Here I was thinking that cURL's (non-existent) enterprise support contracts were a polite way to tell brain-dead paper pushers to GTFO: https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/01/24/logj4-security-inquir...

akerl_3• 1 month ago

https://curl.se/support.html

What do you mean by non-existent?

okeuro49• 1 month ago

Everyone with a paid support contracts will of course still get full and appropriate service even during this period.

fnoef• 1 month ago

Based! Amazing approach, enjoy the vacation!

cat_plus_plus2• 1 month ago

SGTM, if I am worried about a curl exploit, I will type details into Zoo Code prompt and it will disappear in about 30 seconds and then I can upload a PR for others concerned. Enjoy your vacation and I will enjoy security for a lot cheaper than an enterprise contract!

napolux• 1 month ago

Funny, I have the same https://www.lafuma-mobilier.fr/ sunbed from the last pic. Also same color. :D

eviks3• 1 month ago

Contracts excluded

They aren't. If you ignore vulnerability report from an entity without a support contract, the vulnerability doesn't disappear just because the entities with support contracts are not aware of it

rzmmm• 1 month ago

Curl has a ton of features, I can imagine this means fixing small fraction of the vulns affecting only the supporters.

eviks3• 1 month ago

Why would you imagine they have any clue about the area of effect if they ignore the report?

shevy-java2• 1 month ago

So it is holiday season.

I thought this was due to AI slop spam before I read the blog entry.

davidgerard2• 1 month ago

I heartily endorse the Fuck You Pay Me support process.

lionkor2• 1 month ago

Here's your reminder that 20-30 days paid vacation plus unlimited sick days (3+ days needs a doctor's note) is normal in Europe (e.g. Germany).

If you get sick during vacation, you get those vacation days "refunded" back. If you suddenly are called in to work, somehow, during vacation, that time cannot be vacation time.

You can't (generally) be fired without a notice period, resulting in job security to such a degree that ~6k in an emergency fund is plenty to be VERY secure, as you also get unemployment support otherwise anyway. Does this result in incompetent people not getting fired? No. You still fire them, you just have to deal with them another month after that. It's not a big price to pay.

How is this all possible? Who subsidizes it? We all simply pay some % of our income to support this system. That's it. A couple percent, a couple bucks, and we get to basically never worry about starving or becoming homeless.

You can have this, too, if you vote and protest and use democracy to make life better, not worse, for everyone.

insumanth• 1 month ago

> The bad guys won’t rest Probably not. But we will.

This is Exceptional. Perfect EuroMaxxing

jimmyblanco• 1 month ago

Great to see this stance

panchtatvam• 1 month ago

An evil way to extort money via support contracts.

geraldcombs• 1 month ago

...so open source developers should know their place and just dedicate themselves to endless, unpaid toil forever and ever, amen?

siskiyou• 1 month ago

If you expect to get paid for doing a job, are you extorting your employer?

dxxvi2• 1 month ago

Today is Jun 15. So, I wonder if somebody + AI can rewrite curl in Rust in 1.5 months. I think it's possible if that person knows all curl features. However, does that person even exist?

dxxvi2• 1 month ago

There are projects like this: urlx, curlio.

GoblinSlayer2• 1 month ago

https://curl.se/docs/security.html - C bugs are marked.

SoftTalker2• 1 month ago

If that were possible it would already have been done.

colinsane• 1 month ago

curl used to have rust in it, dropped it 1.5 yrs ago. AI doesn't help with the hard parts here i don't think. https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2024/12/21/dropping-hyper/

steveklabnik• 1 month ago

They dropped the hyper backend, but that wasn’t the only Rust code in tree.

stogot• 1 month ago

Good for them & haxx!

romaniv• 1 month ago

What this shows me (again) is that the whole system where vulnerabilities need to be constantly discovered, reported, analyzed, then patched, then the new version distributed to every singe user - again and again - is quite obviously unsustainable. The industry must come up with some alternative system for dealing with bugs and security issues. Currently the industry prefers to play dumb and turn its own failures into a profit (rent seeking) opportunity.

jjice• 1 month ago

What's the better solution?

Also, what's an example of this rent seeking in open source you're talking about?

gpm• 1 month ago

What's the better solution?

IMO Writing correct software the first time around - so formal methods.

But the tooling isn't there yet (though lightweight versions, e.g. strong type systems like rust's, are and significantly reduce the security issue load).

fsflover• 1 month ago

I think you're right, and the solution is security through compartmentalization. See: https://qubes-os.org.

lofaszvanitt• 1 month ago

Yeah, pay the foss maintainers. Anyone, who uses these projects must pay a minimum fee. Companies expected to pay a lot more.

rurcliped• 1 month ago

With more advance notice, someone could have found resources to fork curl with different vulnerability management expectations, e.g., "will not accept or otherwise handle any vulnerability reports during the month beginning 21 December 2026. We call it The Winter of Our Discontent."

Havoc• 1 month ago

Why is curl catching so many security issues?

I can see something like nginx being in that spot but curl is primarily user initiated and pointed at a known target rather than internet facing accepting connections

chopin• 1 month ago

It presumably runs in a gazillion scripts.

tredre3• 1 month ago

curl isn't more prone to security issues, it's just being talked about more. Daniel has an active blog, is active on social media, and interacts with the community. I don't think the nginx team has that presence, hence if they take a vacation or run mythos on their codebase or have an opinion about AI nobody really knows.

spyc• 1 month ago

Both libexpat ("Expat") and uriparser are following the curl security vacation and will not accept new vulnerability reports before 2026-08-01, starting today.

[1] https://github.com/libexpat/libexpat/issues/1277

[2] https://github.com/uriparser/uriparser/issues/323

UltraSane• 1 month ago

If employees are never truly unavailable then companies WILL become overly dependent on them.

Curl will not accept vulnerability reports during July 2026

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