Ask HN: What are your news sources other than HN?

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by aswathrao • 7 years ago

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I am a regular Hacker News reader. But I like to explore similar options news for Sci-tech and Geo Politics.

What other news sources you use ?

AVTizzle2• 7 years ago

Mostly other aggregators

https://twitter.com (follow the right people)

https://reddit.com (follow the right subs)

https://techmeme.com

I'm not in the habit of checking in on individual media outlets, but when I see content from WSJ, Bloomberg, or The Information on any of the above aggregators, I generally like what I see.

AVTizzle2• 7 years ago

Some follow-on mentions:

https://www.stratechery.com

https://www.vox.com

https://www.vox.com/recode-decode-podcast-kara-swisher

mtmail• 7 years ago

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mdip• 7 years ago

Thanks for this - that's exactly what I was hoping to find when I clicked into this.

While I didn't find a whole lot of the content I had intended, I think what I did find was interesting, none-the-less. The general opinion here seems to be "news sources suck[0]", especially if it has anything to do with politics/politics-masquerading-as-economics[1]. And community-driven sites tend to become dominated by the fringe of one political persuasion or another. HN does a good job, here, though a look at "new" yields a few headlines who's content can be summarized as "Your politician iz teh satan11", they rarely bubble up, and the ones that do -- even the ones that (headline-wise) I'd probably never click through in another context, I end up appreciating more often than not.

[0] I tend to agree with this and blame much but not all on the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/65213-briefly-stated-the-ge...

[1] Replace "economics" with anything else. HN's policy against political-related posts aside, I think this community tends toward skepticism and a lot of political is facts/truth twisted to fit an agenda/bias (intentional or not).

nerdbeere• 7 years ago

I subscribed to a couple of newsletters to stay up to date. The TLDR I read on a daily basis. JavaScript Weekly is also very good if you're interested int webdev.

Here's a good list of different newsletters: https://github.com/zudochkin/awesome-newsletters#technology-...

lifeisstillgood• 7 years ago

Is it sad to admit to BBC satirical news programmes. This generally works - they cover the "biggest" stories of the week, and if it strikes a chord I can go google for more.

However it failed spectacularly a few years back - A political enemy of the UK prime Minister David Cameron had written a book claiming Cameron had put his (Cameron's) penis into the mouth of a dead pig for a university prank. This had been banned from being repeated in UK media but twitter and non-english sources were full. So satirical programs were simply full of jokes about pigs, oink oink noises and more. They got hilarious reactions from those in the know but I simply had no idea why - it was weeks before the explanation broke somehow

wastedhours• 7 years ago

Is it sad to admit to BBC satirical news programmes

I for years got all of my main news from HIGNFY, Mock the Week and Private Eye. I got most of the nuance, without the outrage. Shame we don't have anything in the UK like The Daily Show, otherwise I probably wouldn't frequent any news sources other than those that skewer it all.

tajd• 7 years ago

May I add "Dead Ringers" and "The Now Show" to the list of (BBC) satirical news shows. These shows absolutely nail it for me.

PanosJee• 7 years ago

Matt Levine @ Bloomberg

pjc509• 7 years ago

"Money Stuff" is hilarious.

G8WyaX• 7 years ago

https://news.google.com/?edchanged=1&hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US:...

https://news.google.com/?edchanged=1&hl=en-GB&gl=GB&ceid=GB:...

https://www.aldaily.com/

jdc• 7 years ago

Face-to-face conversations and John Oliver on Last Week Tonight

AnnoyingSwede• 7 years ago

I still check out slashdot.org / reddit.com / flashback.org (Swedish)

cerberusss2• 7 years ago

I'm still on Slashdot as well. The discourse is less civil, but more straight. Still, I prefer the civility of HN :)

BjoernKW• 7 years ago

The BBC has a wide range of podcasts (available internationally), including ones about geopolitics and science.

Due to the nature of the medium and the BBC's generally more serious and composed disposition these podcasts tend to be about actually relevant information rather than the outrage-inducing, largely irrelevant rubbish commonly fed by "Now ... this" media.

nannal• 7 years ago

I'd advise steering clear of anything related to UK politics published by the BBC.

There's been a clear pro-right trend for a number of years evident most clearly during the most recent election and Scotland's independence referendum of 2014.

andrepd• 7 years ago

Not to mention the appalling coverage of Jeremy Corbyn.

arethuza2• 7 years ago

The BBC received far more complaints on coverage on the recent election from Conservative (right) supporters than any other group:

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/dec/31/bbc-election-c...

The right wing in the UK is usually the group most critical of the BBC (AKA "Brussels Broadcasting Corporation").

I would agree that the coverage during the Scottish referendum in 2014 was biased but I think that this is because the BBC is naturally biased towards the status-quo.

Any organisation that can produce The Thick of It being critical of politicians and W1A about its own antics can't be all bad....

blowski3• 7 years ago

In my experience, everybody complains that the BBC is biased, which probably means they're fairly neutral.

jayflux• 7 years ago

There's been a clear pro-right trend for a number of years

Then why has there been more complaints from the right than the left this year about the BBC?

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/dec/31/bbc-election-c...

chrisseaton2• 7 years ago

This just doesn’t seem to add up to me. You think that the BBC, based in London, the absolute epitome of the middle-class metropolitan liberal media Oxbridge elite, founded on a socialist principle of media provided by the state, an organisation that helped to pioneer left-wing satire, home of the News Quiz, a broadcaster that commissions programmes for Mark Steel, Marcus Brigstocke, the late Jeremy Hardy, is actually right-wing?

RickJWagner3• 7 years ago

Interesting.

To my (American) eyes, the BBC has a liberal bias. YMMV, of course.

wyclif2• 7 years ago

That's a trend reflected in voting patterns. What is the BBC supposed to do, ignore the fact that a massive number of voters rejected the Labour Party's platform, fail to note that Labour had their most dismal outing since 1935 while losing seats for the first time in many places in the north of England, and fail to comment that the UK Left is a dumpster fire and a hotbed of anti-Semitism?

flashm• 7 years ago

The BBC is pro government. It was pro Labour for many years recently. It’s still fairly unbiased compared to most sources.

rvz3• 7 years ago

If you are to be looking at new sources from the BBC, just stick to BBC World News. At its best, I find that the quality of the online sections and articles from the BBC are beyond woeful and extremely cringe-worthy everytime I dare to visit and read from the site or watch their news channel.

You'd expect that having the privilege of a royal charter they have a duty to be fair, impartial and balanced. But as shown in recent events and previous scandals, they are becoming a questionable source and still can't help giving coverage towards Twitter spats that isn't worth paying a TV license for.

David_R• 7 years ago

The BBC also has a useful smartphone app. Each day it offers just a few items related to the US; can scan through them in a couple of minutes; seem free of any American left/right tilt.

balladeer• 7 years ago

- I skim/read a national newspaper every day in the morning for around 10-30m - https://www.TheHindu.com (no this one's not religious at all - quite the opposite :D).

- BBC news (I try to listen to the daily podcast in the evening). I've a radio too.

- Sham Jaff's https://www.whathappenedlastweek.com/ every week.

And then there are friends who never let you miss any event of importance or otherwise.

PS. HN, for me, is other things but not at all a news source.

sudoaza• 7 years ago

Spanish: Mexico https://www.jornada.com.mx/ Argentina https://www.pagina12.com.ar/ Cuba http://www.cubadebate.cu/ España https://www.elsaltodiario.com/ Colombia https://www.desdeabajo.info/

English: https://theintercept.com/ https://www.democracynow.org/ https://phys.org/

objektif• 7 years ago

The intercept is by far the best news outlet. Most of their staff is incredible except a few pseudo journalists like Mehdi who are riding the anti-Trump train.

ericol• 7 years ago

Even thought I'm kinda "ideologically aligned" with Página 12, I wouldn't consider it unbiased when it comes to country politics (quite the contrary, up to the point of not reporting news in some cases) from Argentina (As it is clearly aligned with the "peronist" movement). There are 2 newspaper that from my point of view do a better job of presenting news in a un-biased way.

One is www.ambito.com (That it originates in a financial newspaper, but their politics reporting is very good).

the other is www.tiempoar.com.ar

tvaughan• 7 years ago

Cualquier recomendación para Chile?

dejawu• 7 years ago

After finally cutting myself off of Twitter, my main source for news has been the Wikipedia current events portal:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Current_events

It's as close as can possibly be to unbiased, only lists significant events, and it covers world news rather than only focusing on America.

My secondary sources are reddit's /r/OutOfTheLoop, and the chyrons I see whenever I happen to walk by a TV that is playing the news (I learned of the Trump impeachment this way). If something doesn't come up in one of these three sources, it's probably not important enough to be worth the stress/anxiety that following the issue would cause.

clircle• 7 years ago

Does anyone know if there is an RSS feed of the Current Events portal?

cyborgx7• 7 years ago

There is a recent changes atom feed. Does that do the job?

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?hidebots=1&hidecategoriza...

vinc• 7 years ago

I use this in my RSS reader, from an open source web app I made a few years back: https://news.vinc.cc/search.atom?q=wikipedia+events

Markoff2• 7 years ago

why leaving Twitter? i just joined months ago after ignoring it for years, but yeah most of the content is just time waster besides local police, firemen and transport authority

icelend• 7 years ago

For me, HN is not a news source. HN is a forum.

rumanator• 7 years ago

It can be both if there are discussions on newspieces that you happened not to catch elsewhere.

molteanu4• 7 years ago

https://www.rt.com/

akuji19932• 7 years ago

Love how people downvote RT but upvote BBC. Take any media outlet with a big grain of salt. Al Jazeera is also a good news source, when you are intelligent enough to question motives.

jknoepfler3• 7 years ago

One of those is not actively supressed by a dictatorship.

sweeneyrod• 7 years ago

Russia, the UK and Qatar are all quite different.

molteanu4• 7 years ago

People are not quite objective around HN when it comes to political stuff. That's fine, the technical stuff is still good.

Take any media outlet with a big grain of salt

True. That's why you can't trust a person who gets his/her info only from BBC and NYT anymore than you can trust an engineer who doesn't know Lisp.

I'm also reading The Guardian, it has some nice opinion pieces, but when Australia is on fire the news is how some tourists saved some koalas and it's all well. When the Amazon burns, that's another story.

ljw100110• 7 years ago

Sorry, but you're comparing rotten apples and oranges. When RT criticizes Putin the way the Times criticizes Trump or BBC criticizes Johnson, lmk. Actually, I already know when that will happen - after Putin is out of office and the new boss wants to discredit him.

Al Jazeera is a high-quality news source.

IngvarLynn• 7 years ago

Is this a troll post? RT was deliberately created from scratch to spread kremlin's agenda by blatant, soviet-level lies.

molteanu4• 7 years ago

No, it is not. RT is a valuable source of info.

michajg• 7 years ago

http://axios.com

Summarises news (mostly from a US perspective) concisely with options to dive deeper

sunkenvicar2• 7 years ago

American: https://foxnews.com

Russian: https://rt.com

Canadian: https://thepostmillennial.com

jknoepfler3• 7 years ago

How on earth can anyone present fox news as a serious news site? It's the living incarnation of for-profit shock journalism. It doesn't even pretend to have actual content. (I'd be just as irritated if someone said comedy central... Which is probably slightly more accurate, but still utterly idiotic)

sunkenvicar2• 7 years ago

Fox News is by far the most popular cable TV news network. Many people also read their website.

Would you like to share your news sources?

abhs• 7 years ago

Slashdot, The Verge, Vox, Tech Crunch, Ars Technica, TechJuice.pk (Pakistan).

dakoondog• 7 years ago

Techurls.com Devurls.com Feedly

kristopolous3• 7 years ago

I try to avoid it. It's too much of a time sink and there's almost zero pieces of actionable information.

I know it's offensive to claim it's merely entertainment but in concrete terms there's no material difference resulting from tuning into daily banter that's any different than watching some serial drama on television.

mark_l_watson• 7 years ago

I agree with you. I get an email USA news summary from The Guardian in the morning and a few minutes looking at that is suffices. I like democracynow.org also but only give that a good read a few times a month.

When a US politician does something I find offensive, I do take a few minutes to check to see if they are running for re-election in which case I try to donate $5 to their opponent. Otherwise, I am happy being “apathetic” to politics.

EDIT: I volunteer one day a week at my local food bank, and that helps tie me into local events and what is happening in town. Local news is the most important news to me since I have virtually no effect on the world outside of my local community.

fyfy18• 7 years ago

This is my point of view as well. Even (especially?) for things like politics. I might read a quick summary about whatever the current big issues are every few weeks and around elections, but that's it.

Issues that may affect me (which are more local in nature) will naturally come up in conversation, so I don't think I'm really missing out on anything. I'm not in a position where I can change anything, so why bother wasting my attention on these things?

frankzander• 7 years ago

I like that view. Most informations are forgotten in a hour or so.

baggy_trough• 7 years ago

Assuming you have at least minimal social interaction, if anything actually important happens, somebody will tell you. So there's really no reason to pay attention to news at all. It's pure entertainment and time wasting.

ljw100110• 7 years ago

This is why we can't have nice things. Like democracy.

But I also have to limit my exposure to political news. Otherwise I get too depressed.

hartator• 7 years ago

You don’t have to follow news to make good political decisions. If people read philosophy as the same rates they follow fake political drama, we’ll be in a better place.

kristopolous3• 7 years ago

Democracy is achieved through active participation in building and maintaining institutions exercising power, not in passively consuming broadcasted editorial content.

It's depressing because consuming content in isolation doesn't materially affect anything. You can't watch your way to political action. It's empty and everyone knows it.

Donate money to causes you care about, attend meetings, help organize things, exercise power.

username90• 7 years ago

We don't have a democracy where you need to stay up to date with events, if this were Switzerland you'd have a point, but in most countries you only need to get the summary once every 4 years. I'd even argue that people will make better decisions if completely stepped away from everything and got some perspective before the election instead of constantly being emotionally involved all the time.

MrFantastic• 7 years ago

I don't think the for-Profit 24 hours news channels are helping Democracy.

With that much talk time they have to speculate about what's actually going on. When they speculate wrong it's labeled "Fake News".

Currently USA news media creates division to get eye balls.

Reading a summary of the news weekly keeps you just as informed at watching 24/7

cryptoz• 7 years ago

there's almost zero pieces of actionable information.

I don't agree with this. The news is filled with actionable information. If nothing more than constant reporting of problems, many of which could be solved with new businesses - there is value in knowing about that if only to be better positioned to start businesses.

The world is full of people in pain, and often the news reports on that. That is actionable information. Other people's pain is not your entertainment. It is actionable information about how to help improve the world and reduce suffering.

Also, the news and happenings of the world do affect you every day even if you don't know it or notice it.

"You may not care about politics, but politics cares about you"

pjc509• 7 years ago

I kind of agree with this, but:

The world is full of people in pain, and often the news reports on that. That is actionable information. Other people's pain is not your entertainment. It is actionable information about how to help improve the world and reduce suffering.

There is far, far more of this than is actionable, and most of it isn't really actionable from this distance. You end up with "white saviour" disease.

The news is also full of my fellow voters saying that those in pain are lying, or that we should inflict more pain on them as a matter of policy. Those are somewhat hard to stomach.

TeMPOraL2• 7 years ago

Sure, if you approach it with a problem-solving mindset, you can ignore the content and the noise and the inaccuracies of the news, and dig into an issue to be addressed that underlies the story.

But there's only so much thing you can act on at any given moment, and actions take a lot of time. In particular, you can execute one, two business ideas at a time; perhaps three if you're Elon Musk. So once you're engaged in action, what's the point of following the news? You aren't going to act on anything else for the next couple years anyway.

eric_cc2• 7 years ago

How many times in your life have you personally watched a news story about somebody suffering that caused you to leap off your couch and take action?

TeMPOraL2• 7 years ago

I do the same. If some news is important enough, it'll eventually percolate to HN, or I'll hear about it from someone else.

The way I see it, almost all news is completely irrelevant to my daily life, not actionable in any way, usually depressing, and often very inaccurate. It provides negative information - after consuming them, you end up dumber and more confused than you were before. So I stay away.

peteforde5• 7 years ago

I understand why you'd reach this conclusion. I would like to offer another viewpoint for you and others reading this to consider.

Simply put, you are underestimating the impact you have on those around you. Every media literate and well-informed critical thinker has the ability to dramatically change someone's perspective. Not just by knowing what to say, but even more importantly how to listen.

Empathetic 1:1 conversation that is respectful is literally the only way to help people escape their bubbles. If you don't know wtf you're talking about, you're missing every shot you don't take.

Essentially, this would be fine if you lived alone, but in reality when you insulate yourself from politics you're just setting yourself up for frustrating moments where you know that your racist uncle is wrong but you have neither the facts nor the confidence to address his ignorant points in a way that doesn't just boil over into hurt feelings.

In short: this attitude taken to the extreme is an abdication of social responsibility. Much like herd immunity, you don't need to be a hero... just not part of the problem.

a3n2• 7 years ago

Has any racist uncle ever been turned? Or is that also a waste of time and effort?

I do agree that a responsible citizen must stay informed. But you need to direct your efforts to the possible and impactful.

RookyNumbas• 7 years ago

Yes, empathetic 1:1 conversation is critical, and yes you can have a huge impact on those around you. But this has nothing to do with keeping up to date with news. Facts will not change your racist uncle's opinion. 99% of the news you consume will have absolutely 0 effect on your ability to convince others to be better.

Develop a vision for your life. Become an expert in topics that are important to you. Read good books, befriend interesting people, and focus on problems where you can make a large difference, and inspire others to do so as well. Daily news plays no role in this.

kristopolous3• 7 years ago

News isn't critical political theory though.

If you wanted to become well versed in, say, Marx, you don't get there through watching the news, you just read Marx.

Go on eBay, buy a couple used books, read them instead. They'll have quite a bit more insight than a Twitter stream

wtmt• 7 years ago

I came here to say something similar. At least with watching some TV shows or movies, you’re more likely to get de-stressed and/or entertained. News is usually the opposite, creating more frustration, tension and stress about things where you may not be able to do much to help. Whatever is called “news” in today’s world is more of sensational, controversial and divisive stuff. Anything to create an addiction and keep people coming back and arguing is what it’s turned into.

It’s good and also useful sometimes to know what’s happening around, but obsessing with keeping up with news everyday is a huge drain.

terrycody• 7 years ago

Totally agree, I use 2-3 hours per day reading these sites, include HN, and I think HN is enough for most parts.

isthis1984• 7 years ago

For science

sciencedaily.com

lobster.rs

a little less technical science news - newatlas.com

I get access to pressreader.com via my local library a/c

ibrahimcesar• 7 years ago

In Brazil: https://nexojornal.com.br

akuji19932• 7 years ago

I pretty far left, even for European standards, so this is my news:

- https://morningstaronline.co.uk/ (UK Left news)

- https://www.theguardian.com/international (Int. News)

- https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world (Int. News)

- https://taz.de/ (German left newspaper)

- https://www.sueddeutsche.de/ (German centrist)

- https://www.theregister.co.uk/ (For IT news)

- https://techcrunch.com/ (For Startup News)

- https://www.nytimes.com/section/smarter-living (For Lifestyle articles)

pjc509• 7 years ago

I would strongly suggest that anyone in the UK finds a non-UK news source, and SDZ is a good choice. Irish Times also works - not remotely left, but outside the UK bubble.

weavie• 7 years ago

Do you mean https://sdz.today/ ?

It seems to be down at the moment.

blowski3• 7 years ago

https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news is a news aggregator with a focus on balanced news.

timvisee• 7 years ago

One similar site I use is https://lobste.rs/

adventured• 7 years ago

Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/) is currently my favorite news source.

No paywall. Relatively fast loading, not too annoying site. They're heavy on news, light on opinion, agenda and propaganda. They generally cover anything of consequence globally.

lukeqsee3• 7 years ago

They are also my go-to for intra-day news.

I use Economist for longer-cycle opinion and news.

0XAFFE• 7 years ago

Although it is in german, the „deutschlandfunk“[1] is very informative radio with no advertisement. I mostly listen to it on breakfast, but you can most all articles on the radio on their website.

[1] https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/

petepete• 7 years ago

I have a heavily cultivated set of custom subreddits (local, photography), but I tend to gravitate to hn for tech more and more these days.

oceanbreeze83• 7 years ago

i started vising maagnit.com last week. good mix of mainstream and independent sources, all video though.

zikani_03• 7 years ago

I've found a feed reader to be particularly useful for getting news in one place. Have been using The Old Reader for over a year now (RIP Google Reader :_( ).

I glance at the headlines to make sure I am aware of current affairs but only go further to reading articles if I need more information or the headline/summary is interesting enough.

I don't appreciate news sites that don't have Atom/RSS feeds.

Some sites: http://www.sci-news.com/feed http://itweb.co.za/rss https://sdtimes.com/feed/ https://cms.qz.com/feed/edition/africa

leftnode• 7 years ago

Perhaps they're not typical sources of news, but I enjoy ProPublica[1] and The Intercept[2] for deep investigative journalism.

[1] https://www.propublica.org

[2] https://theintercept.com

vwpolo3• 7 years ago

The problem is that online news sources are (almost) all the same - low budget, second tier silos of mostly trainee journalists. They have an emphasis on clicks and outrage and constant updates to keep you engaged and are a secondary (or tertiary) driver of revenue. The only exception I know of are The New York Times and maybe The Intercept.

My tip is to read a (or more) actual (read: printed) newspapers:

- they are printed daily or weekly (e.g. The Economist), keeping you out of the "Breaking News" loop every 60 minutes; - they have more weight within the news organization because they are the primary driver of revenue; - are therefore written by actual professional journalists in a proper journalistic process.

I recommend just picking up any news paper and comparing that to the online presence of that news paper, you will notice the tremendous difference.

In my opinion, a lot of the "media mistrust" comes from the constant barrage of so-called "news" articles with the primary goal of being shared on social media and bubbling up in Google News. Just check how many news articles are 1:1 copies of AP or any other news conglomerate.

yorwba• 7 years ago

https://newshound.co/editions/en-us/ is pretty good for seeing how many news articles published by different outlets are actually written by AP/Reuters/etc. and only modified slightly. I think the site was originally intended to allow users to choose the article from their preferred outlet, but I rarely find myself interested in reading any of the grouped articles.

basch3• 7 years ago

I like the same thing about https://techmeme.com/ if I click the arrow next to a story, it shows me everyone covering it, but they use editorial discretion to chose the "best" coverage, whether that be the first copy, or the first good copy.

hieloz• 7 years ago

Similar website like https://www.zaqs.org/home.html, You can customize the news sources and track original content news websites.

Dirlewanger• 7 years ago

The Intercept started out strong, but has also devolved into reactionary clickbait-y crap as of late (also hosts pieces written by unrepentant race-baiters like Shaun King). Really sad as I used to like them.

It seems those with hard paywalls that don't have to rely on clickbait-y headlines are able to have a bit more integrity (who would have known?!). Foreign Affairs is generally pretty good for actual analysis on world events (it's politics, yes, but they are good at what they do).

flatfilefan• 7 years ago

Try out Le Monde Diplomatique if you like Foreign Affairs

Terretta2• 7 years ago

There’s a reason it seems online sources are the same. Step outside the conglomerates, and choose independent news.

See the following list for a “growing number of independent news sources available to anyone with internet access. The following are only a sampling of those alternatives. Most state that they are “non-partisan, independent and non-profit.” Some are more transparent than others; a couple even outline a code of journalistic ethics their company follows.”

https://soapboxie.com/social-issues/A-Real-Need-for-the-Real...

ljw100110• 7 years ago

Trying to understand politics by watching the Web stream go flowing by is pointless. You need high-quality, big picture stuff that requires effort to produce and consume.

In the US, the NYTimes and the Washington Post are the best sources.

To ensure you're exposure is 'fair and balanced' I would add the Economist for a more conservative, but not xenophobic or straight-up nonsensical viewpoint. It has the nice additional bonus of being more global.

Foreign Affairs and Foreign Policy are excellent journals for, well, US foreign policy. Finally, the New Yorker has fantastic longer-form articles on American politics.

highhedgehog• 7 years ago

What about Wall Street Journal?

chrisweekly2• 7 years ago

conservative bias

ljw100110• 7 years ago

Great news content. Very rupert-murdoch-driven editorial bias

poulsbohemian• 7 years ago

The WSJ has great content. But, with the WSJ, Economist, and even WaPo, I stopped subscribing to each because the editorials / opinion pages were vile. Look, I'm all about critical dialog, but when propagandists are given a soap box to spread nonsense (IE: flat out gaslighting lies), the purpose of the press in public good is abused. As the saying goes, people are entitled to opinions, not facts.

pjc509• 7 years ago

NYT will happily publish "high-quality big picture" antisemitism of the oldest and most eugenic sort: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/dec/28/bret-stephens-...

ageitgey• 7 years ago

NYT publishes all kinds of inflammatory stuff it its Op-Ed section. I don't think you should read the Op-Ed section too seriously (or at all). It's not up to the same bar as the rest of their reporting. It's their way to compete for clicks in a click-driven economy. Stick to the news sections.

Patatarte• 7 years ago

But it’s heavily lefty sided and lacks perspective.

basch3• 7 years ago

Conservative Perspective: WSJ, Economist, The Hill, Reason, and National Review

bag5315• 7 years ago

Krystal Ball from The Hill is a gem.

monocularvision• 7 years ago

Reason is libertarian, not conservative.

thrwaway692• 7 years ago

Just thought, I would put this here.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_York_Times_controver...

https://theduran.com/the-washington-post-admits-that-its-fak...

https://www.rt.com/usa/369598-washington-post-fake-propagand...

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/washington-pos...

Search engines are progressively getting worse or I am finally becoming an old boomer. I can't search anything without being bombarded with amp links focused on something completely unrelated. I tried duckduckgo, yes it is better but still not comparable to the results I was getting back.

If anything's a good metric for "propaganda or fake news", it's that they all use amp.

maltelandwehr• 7 years ago

- Twitter - Reddit

ljw100110• 7 years ago

Getting your politics from twitter is a horrible idea. Even if it wasn't full of trolls and bots specifically intended to mislead, it would still be an endless spew of pointless, often fake, outrage where the only thing that matters is keeping Jack Dorsey rich and keeping twitter-itself afloat.

Torches66• 7 years ago

https://voat.co/ as uncensored aggregator for global sociopolitical news.

Newspapers.

wishrider• 7 years ago

https://www.uptopnews.com/ to get a quick tech overview.

embit• 7 years ago

Originally meant for my own consumption, I made an aggregator that I would like to get my news from, in a form and shape I prefer. then my friends started using it and they really liked it. Now available to everyone.

[1] https://embit.ca

fsloth• 7 years ago

Economist is very good. They are strongly liberal economics biased in their opinions, but they don't hide it. Their coverage of facts is usually excellent. It's obvious when they are opinionated and when on the other hand quoting expert opinion. I'm a bit on the left, politically, so I like reading 'what the other side is thinking' as well. As a bonus they publish bunch of letters from the readers, where they are criticized for this or that error by their readers, including state officials and university professors.

lukeqsee3• 7 years ago

but they don't hide it.

This is what I very much appreciate about the Economist and why I subscribe.

Solid handling of the facts and well-announced bias, when present. They say "based on these facts, this is our editorial opinion" (almost literally), and I find it refreshing.

MperorM• 7 years ago

I watch CGTN,

while it's definitely pro china, I still find it to be by far the most valuable news television.

It focuses on Africa and Asia, which I otherwise hear very little about. The value of the news for me is mostly not whatever the news is, but the facts surrounding the news.

For example when they covered the election in Senegal, I learned a ton about Senegal as a result. The news about the election was not the important part in this case, it was learning about the country.

I wrote longer about CGTN here: http://mathiasbonde.com/?p=96

molteanu4• 7 years ago

I’m really ignorant regarding most issues outside of the west.

I agree. We kinda are. That's why is nice to read all these alternative sources. You don't have to agree with them, but at least you'll ask yourself more questions. Thanks for the link and the advice. I'll definitely watch some CGTN.

ajpkco• 7 years ago

I really enjoy "Le Monde Diplomatique", it's a french monthly newspaper, mostly about foreign politics. It's translated in more than 25 languages and it started as a newspaper made for diplomatic circles.

https://mondediplo.com/

hestefisk• 7 years ago

The Guardian (English), The Conversation, Information (Danish).

wdb• 7 years ago

Personally, I enjoy reading The Week over the weekend to get the news of the week: https://www.theweek.co.uk

Together with that I like to read the free news site from my home country to keep up-to-date what's happening over there.

Markoff2• 7 years ago

BBC and guardian for international news, then tons of local sites and Twitter for local news, Ars Technica and verge for general tech news and Gsmarena, phonearena and gizchina for Android/mobile news

i narrowed my interests since I lack time, previously used to read about architecture/buildings and science sites, but it's just too much information and if there is something really important it will go to regular news sites, otherwise it's just stuff with application in years/decades, which I don't care

allard• 7 years ago

an interesting chart on media bias now at version 5.1

https://www.adfontesmedia.com

pio422• 7 years ago

I really like the french newspaper "Le Monde Diplomatique". https://mondediplo.com/

It has an english version.

I'm actually reading it in french. It's a well documented monthly newspaper. Articles aren't here to create some bullshit buzz, but deep articles on many subjects mostly politic, economic, geo politics but ther topics are covered (internet, healthcare, ...)

ljw100110• 7 years ago

Yeah I used to struggle through Le Monde in French. It was eye-opening to get a very different perspective on everything: art and culture as well as politics.

Sytten• 7 years ago

I am also a reader of the monde diplo. They have a Spanish version too. We must recognize the small left-wing bias though, but the articles are always of very high quality and all the sources are included. This is by far the beat source of information for international politic and it should be a model for other newspapers.

pio422• 7 years ago

"We must recognize the small left-wing bias though" Yep, I'm fully agree with you, that's must be said.

pknerd• 7 years ago

I don't scan HN as religiously as I used to do it in the past. I prefer to check Ask HN most of the time as there are more useful threads in it than the main page.

To the original question, I explore Reddit subs of my choice.

simonsarris6• 7 years ago

Quit news. Quit politics. Don't have a "media diet." Make stuff and try to be around people who make stuff instead. To lay a single cobblestone path is to have more virtue than a million hot takes. Most causes are not thought-out enough to advocate, certainly not to scream about. The cobblestone path may outlive you. Politics and news, for all of their rage and sense of urgency, turn with the leaves.

If you want to do good in this world, work on technology, or art, or building something beautiful or durable, like a family. Good comes through these things, not from the political churn, not from quests for power.

If you want to keep up with things, keep up with technology (hi HN), keep up with real people who are doing stuff. It doesn't have to be hyper impressive stuff, just living and making things. Twitter is the most intellectual, and underrated, social network, because people follow too many political accounts and celebrities instead of other people, so if you're looking for an action item that's a good start.

Follow real people. Do real things. Try to inspire and be inspired. Leave the news behind.

LinuxBender2• 7 years ago

This is the best comment I have seen on HN in a long time. I agree with everything you said, but that isn't the reason this is the best comment. I appreciate that someone else knows what things last and what is just short lived dopamine highs. (news drama, politic drama, etc)

jjaredsimpson• 7 years ago

How could it be the best comment when it doesn't even address OPs question?

OP asked for "X"

This reply says, "dont X, X is bad"

It is the same as every off topic top comment.

ai_ia• 7 years ago

Most causes are not thought-out enough to advocate, certainly not to scream about.

I agree 100 %.

Your comment reminds me of these two comics : [1] & [2] which I love and revisit from time to time.

1: https://zenpencils.com/comic/50-neil-gaiman-make-good-art/

2: https://zenpencils.com/comic/119-john-green-make-gifts-for-p...

johnwheeler• 7 years ago

Sage advice

3pt14159• 7 years ago

Or you know, follow politics and meet with your elected representative and push for issues that you care about to make the world better for everyone.

Plenty of despots sent plenty of soldiers over cobblestones carefully set into the ground.

Though I do agree that following news reports over every gaff and tweet are pointless, even if they are entertaining. Understanding the pros and cons of something like the Trans Pacific Partnership is valuable though. Some people in our society need to be informed and there is a dearth of computer literate people in our political parties, at least here in Canada.

simonsarris6• 7 years ago

I agree in a scale-dependent way, where "politics" is really offhand for "non-local politics", which is my fault for assuming that's what most people who say politics or Geo Politics (the words in op's post) mean. I think local politics are underrated, and national (often including state) politics are vastly, vastly overrated time sinks.

(full disclosure: I'm active in local politics, I was appointed to the bicycle-pedestrian committee for failure to keep my mouth shut)

Note that on the big scale, for 99% of people, their political options mostly consist of voting, and even the most careful reading of daily news isn't going to change their voting patterns. They've already decided what they think is best for the world. You can still vote without participation in the looney bin machine, if that's your preference. If you want to change people's minds, even politically, the best way to do it is probably not repeating political (news) stuff, but actually living a certain way.

push for issues that you care about to make the world better for everyone.

Yes. Or make it worse, if you get it wrong :) (cue Seeing Like a State, etc)

jcims• 7 years ago

Or you know, follow politics and meet with your elected representative and push for issues that you care about to make the world better for everyone.

It's impossible to make the world better for everyone, just those you care about (and that's only if you're fortunate enough to not trigger counterproductive secondary effects).

That said, I think GP is suggesting that you take your antenna out of the waveguide of impotent turmoil and bickering and focus your attention and energy on intentional, concrete objectives. Actually meeting with a representative to drive an objective forward is exactly in line with what is being suggested.

ploika3• 7 years ago

I absolutely cannot believe that the top answer is "ignore the news and spend more time on Twitter".

This is "Live, Laugh, Love" levels of pseudo-enlightenment.

It is important to know what's happening in the world. It is important to know about decisions being made that affect the country you live in, and it is astonishingly ignorant to assume that politics and media are as bad where I live as you seem to think they are where you live.

simonsarris6• 7 years ago

It is important to know about decisions being made that affect the country you live in.

It's mostly not. The vast majority of daily political yammering and scandals has no effect.

People mostly use politics as a way to dodge real problems in their life that they could be solving. You see this most clearly with the way people bat about words like "capitalism" into nonsense definitions. Their criticisms are almost always manifestations of personal issues.

More generally, people mature when they stop believing politics will solve their problems. It is very sad to see people who spend years hoping their candidate will get into office to reorder the world for them (spoiler, they won't), when they could change how they live today to actually reflect their own values.

As for breaking news, etc. If its actually important, it will get to you anyway, I promise.

You don't have to spend time on Twitter, but if you're looking for internet places to go like the OP is, you can find things there that you will never find elsewhere. I'm answering his question sincerely. You can make new friends and start new collab projects through places like Twitter and Hacker News. I've done it! You're not gonna get that reading CNN or BBC or whatever. You're probably not going to get any actionable, meaningful information from news sources like those, especially day to day.

Twitter is 100% amazing, hugely underrated, and a return to the mode of being that we had pre-1500's, where most knowledge was obtained through dialogue instead of one-way broadcasts, and I will die on that hill.

endorphone• 7 years ago

"This is "Live, Laugh, Love" levels of pseudo-enlightenment."

It's worse than that. What they are advocating is surrounding yourself with a comforting bubble that feeds you a steady dose of pablum that confirms your existing biases. Twitter has been an extraordinary source of ignorance bubbles and has been an extremely negative force on the conveyance of accurate information.

A couple of weeks ago the GP had the top post to a story about the oceans warming, which is remarkably telling given this post. In it they casually dismissed the report of the world's scientists, paraded an ignorant counter-conclusion, and called it a day. This is straight from the AGW-denier playbook and you can see in the GP exactly how such people are made -- "Ignore what your eyes and ears are telling you. Listen to what the tiny subsection of ignorant people are pitching".

Their philosophy is how the world got "pizzagate". Where people like Jordan Peterson have cults.

antman2• 7 years ago

To plan for tomorrow you need to know nothing, to plan for five years you need to know the news, to plan for ten years you need to know politics, to plan for twenty years you need to know history.

sirspacey• 7 years ago

Being informed and aware are valuable goals.

I’m skeptical that the news industry has such significant deviation in outcomes globally, especially while having similar business models.

I’m genuinely curious: is there a particular news source you’ve found that delivers on evaluating global events/decisions, selecting the most relevant/important ones, and explaining them in an educational/useful manner?

The news is in the business of calling attention to things. Whether that attention is informative or useful is not something they take responsibility for.

Watch journalists when they are interviewed, they have a familiar line: they are calling attention to an issue - that’s their job - whether or not it is important is up to the reader.

When I get caught up in the drama of news I use Journalism 101 to remind myself I’m not actually gaining information in exchange for my attention:

A. Is this story about an event that has occurred (or is it speculation or reporting the speculations of others)?

B. Is the coverage establishing what occurred with independently verifiable facts? (Extra points if you can then find those verifications easily).

C. Does it bring context from people who have been directly effected by that event?

D. What did you learn about the nature of that event that you didn’t already know?

When I applied basic journalistic standards to my news consumption, it went down precipitously.

One can arguably be better informed about what is going on in the world and the decisions that are being made by focusing on building.

Builders share what is going on in the world with each other - such as discoveries that can help solve common challenges.

They share decisions that can effect their ability to solve problems - like new regulations and laws.

Chasing some global perspective that we must constantly keep up-to-date on, that’s the fantasy.

Building, as grandparent suggests, is how we engage with the world around us.

wtvanhest• 7 years ago

news has become less than useless. The majority of news is designed to illicit outrage rather than inform. Look at any major news org or even comedy org and the entire set of content is designed to get people to be infuriated.

No thanks.

peatmoss• 7 years ago

Yeah, I assumed the Twitter part was a joke. I can’t imagine a better way to feel horrible than Twitter. It’s definitely a platform for generating heat and very little light.

As for the news, I can understand the notion of a diet. I try and catch at least some of the PBS Newshour each day. It’s the closest thing I’ve found to unsensational, non-editorialized, old-fashioned reporting. If I’m pressed for time, I catch the news summary.

Truthfully, I consume a bit more reporting than just that, but when I start feeling overwhelmed, the PBS Newshour is my diet.

david927• 7 years ago

It is important to know what's happening in the world.

The dose makes the poison. If it's important, you'll hear about it. 99% of what you think of as important you will have forgotten in ten years. Look at old newspapers, old news magazines and it will give you a healthy dose of perspective.

I disagree with the Twitter part but the rest is great advice. You can fill your life with consuming (even if it feels important, like today's news) or you can fill your life with creating. The choice is yours.

seattle_spring• 7 years ago

It's important to know what's happening in the world. It's not important to project what you know (or what you think you know) on blast via social media. I think that's where the unhealthy obsession people have with politics has been coming from lately.

cerberusss2• 7 years ago

It is important to know what's happening in the world

What made you think so?

Don't get me wrong, I don't disagree per sé. But I find it harder and harder to find reasons.

demachina• 7 years ago

Twitter can be fine, it can be priceless. The problem with Twitter:

Their client is bad and they mostly killed off good third party clients. I build my own client to solve this, most people can't or wont.

I want a client that prioritizes the things I follow and read the most (i.e. everyday), @newsyc50 or @newycombinator, @zerohedge, @arstechnica, @techmeme, @pkedrosky. @kdnuggets, @reuters, @variety, @politico. @zerohedge is the controversial one of the bunch. My client shows counters on unread messages for each so I know when new tweets are available and they are one click away.

Next I surface trends from the larger body of follows I'm interested in but don't have time to read. I process everything through spaCy and use its increasingly very good entity recognition to find the trending topics in my feed, much better than Twitter's BS trending. When something is tweeted from 5 or 6 places its a trend I may be interested in. I can adjust this threshold up and down.

I lookup each entity in a local Wikipedia database so if its someone or something famous its one click to read about them in depth. If there is no match its probably someone or something new to the Internet which is also interesting to know.

You need a critical mass of follows for this to work, like several thousand. It is a chore to find several thousand interesting people and organizations to follow. Most people aren't going to do this work which is why most people hate Twitter. Following that many is also noisy so you need a client that prioritizes for signal.

Don't read replies to a tweet unless its really interesting, there are a few interesting replies but they are usually pointless, noisy and/or toxic.

Filter out replies by people you follow most of the time. Most of the time. though not always, these replies are noisy and uninteresting.

I have a smooth scrolling feed I just look at to see what everyone is talking about. It was a bit of of a pain to implement when they killed off the stream API, though I replaced it by polling the feed just below rate limit.

I poll everyone I follow if the client has been off for a while to fill the holes in my timeline.

bag5315• 7 years ago

You watch/read too much Jordan Peterson. You can care about issues and try to make the world a better place, while also taking care of yourself.

Telling people not to care about politics is itself a political endorsement of the status quo.

el_cujo• 7 years ago

Twitter is the most intellectual, and underrated, social network, because people follow too many political accounts and celebrities instead of other people

I mostly agreed up until this. These days it feels like on Twitter, everyone is political at least some of the time. Even a lot of otherwise interesting people who talk about technology 95% of the time, politics just HAS to slip in the other 5%. I don't even really blame them, certain groups treat you like a political enemy if you aren't constantly kowtowing their politics, it's like paying protection money to the mob. Most of these types have personal blogs where you can get their high effort technical posts without the low effort political trash, I'd say go to that instead of Twitter. Fuck Twitter.

rvz3• 7 years ago

As much as I couldn't agree more with some of the points you make on quitting the toxic current affairs and the constant negative forecasting of the world made by the news media, I just disagree with the idea of simply reclusing from the real world and focusing only on tech-centric content, where this will bring a one-sided understanding of certain stories which forgets those who disagree with us and risks failing to understand why they do, which creates echo-chambers.

The tech that we create is starting to reveal the nefarious side of its uses and that is unfortunately real. The standards and rules put in place to keep them safe involve those involved in politics and legislation. If we as just tech creators ignore the implications, then we will be later held to account for this, despite the license saying other wise. It isn't as simple as that to ignore the importance of such things in this industry with possible regulation on the way.

Twitter is the most intellectual, and underrated, social network, because people follow too many political accounts and celebrities instead of other people...

That's debatable. Perhaps for other things, but not for general communication. But that debate is for another HN thread.

The fact is, any tech that has a direct impact on the world would be hard for politicians, bad actors, activists and news corps to ignore and will most certainly question or exploit it to their agenda and those in power will ultimately hold us accountable.

thrwaway692• 7 years ago

I think that's an extreme position. Instead of that, why not delay all news articles by few days or a week. Anything mostly noise will be gone and any important issue will still be broadcasted few days or weeks later.

simonsarris6• 7 years ago

I really should have said "Quit political media" instead of "Quit politics", to stave off the usual comments.

outime• 7 years ago

This is generally good advice but I disagree about Twitter being an intellectual place. I was there for so many years and had to quit because even if I wasn’t following political people, some politics would always end up in the timeline one way or another. You can’t avoid it (still will get the “you don’t follow the right people” bash, doesn’t matter, it is what it is). Then you also have to deal with the char limit, larger than the past but still limited, and you may end up with 50 chained tweets to make a proper point, and certain people will take one out of context and you’ll end up receiving death threats. And Twitter itself isn’t really a neutral company when it comes to politics. All in all, not the right place for being intellectual IMHO.

Also disagree with the full disconnection of the news. I think a weekly summary is fine, you can skim and see if there’s anything relevant. Most of the time, there is nothing worth spending your time. Bias and clickbait in journalism is really low-level and boring nowadays, and you don’t need to follow it all. But you still may want to know something about the society you live in besides the people you end talking to.

MrZongle2• 7 years ago

You had me up until Twitter.

Twitter is the nonstop first date where everybody is working hard to look like somebody who is "in the know" and has their life together. Yes, there are "real people" there but they are few compared to the a sea of bots, narcissists and PR-talk.

1ris• 7 years ago

This is nothing but will full ignorance and proud idiocy.

Its complete surrender to absolute power without any hint of necessity.

Politics matter, if you like it, or not. They lay the groundwork and build the frameworkfor anything in technology, art and your family.

Any attempt in these fields are completely depended on politics. They will all turn to ashes (literally) at the snap of a finger, if politics wants to. All attempts there are futile if you are apolitical.

tmaly• 7 years ago

I would agree except instead of Twitter, I would say look for a weekly newsletter that provides a broad summary of the type of news you are interested in.

cmstoken• 7 years ago

Great advice, just not for everyone though. I personally agree.

redsparrow• 7 years ago

I like the Hackaday blog: https://hackaday.com/blog/

basch3• 7 years ago

To directly answer your question: https://scitechdaily.com/ http://memeorandum.com/ (and culture from https://redef.com/ https://aldaily.com)

Like the "avoid it" answer, I also like to read criticism instead of news, whether it be book reviews, movie reviews, album reviews, video game reviews. Partially to increase my literary skills, and partially to help me notice more around me as I consume entertainment. A&LDaily New Book reviews in particular. I read a lot more book, film, and game reviews than I read, watch, or play.

Longform and Longreads are great ways to find more magazine like researched stories, instead of daily infotainment style "news."

Full List

https://techmeme.com/river

https://hckrnews.com

https://redef.com/

https://aldaily.com

https://scitechdaily.com

https://longform.org

https://longreads.com

https://mediagazer.com/river

https://memeorandum.com/river

The aldaily media list (https://www.aldaily.com/media/) and redef sources chart (https://redef.com/charts/sources/total) are also good pages.

For film specifically https://letterboxd.com/ https://www.rottentomatoes.com/ https://www.metacritic.com/

mch82• 7 years ago

Audible.com to learn about topics through books while in the car or on a walk. I buy paper copies of the books I want to share or reference. I try to alternate nonfiction and fiction (usually science fiction and historical fiction).

unictek• 7 years ago

For French readers: I have created a HN like for French news with the same interface than hacker news and a similar time/point based algorithm for auto sorting most popular articles.

Link: http://news.keymetrics.com/

omarhaneef• 7 years ago

There was this study a while ago about how readers stuck to the bubbles they knew. So conservative readers read Drudge Report, and Liberals read Huffington Post.

However, there was one news source that their network analysis had found to be read widely by both conservatives and liberals: the Israeli newspaper Haaretz.

I don't know if this is still true, but its worth a browse.

Other than that, I agree with the sentiment here that NYT and WaPo at least go through the effort of fact checking.

ljw100110• 7 years ago

i guess I'm a moderate then, because I wouldn't waste my time with either Drudge or Huff-post. The latter i've found amusing at times in a Yeah-I-Hate-That-Too kinda way, but you just can't take it seriously.

mikece3• 7 years ago

Worse than that: Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube think they are doing us a service by inferring our bubble based on what we consume and then give us an ever-smaller bubble thinking it's what we want. What I want is full-spectrum coverage of topics: I want to know what the American left, right, and conspiracy fringe think of something, what the Euroskeptics and EU-supporters think, what the prevailing opinion is in Moscow and Tokyo -- and then draw my own conclusions if it's important to me.

HNLurker2• 7 years ago

Everyone on hacker news is a hedonist who retired from politics or any political discourse.

alkank• 7 years ago

I read The Economist. Reasons and benefits I have seen so far are:

1. It's weekly. "World this week" section is more than enough to have a summary of what has happened throughout the globe and I can get this information in less than 5 minutes. If you are interested in being more up-to-date, you can also try Economist Espresso, which is daily.

2. It's not only about world news, but also has different sections such as Technology, International, Book & Arts which gives me a wider range of topics to digest on a weekly basis.

3. This is, in my opinion, the most important bit: Because I'm digesting a wider array of topics but only spending an hour or two every week, I have observed a surprising benefit on human relationships as well:

Kick-starting a conversation with a person I don't know.

As a not-so-social person I have always struggled finding a topic to chat about with a person I have met recently. Now, first thing I do is to ask this person where he/she is from, or what their hobbies are, and all of a sudden I make a connection with an article I have recently read on the magazine and try to learn more from that person. This is a wonderful way of building a relationship as well as learning quite interesting facts about the culture or the hobbies of that person.

ljw100110• 7 years ago

IDK Reasons, but the Economist is a great news source.

baron816• 7 years ago

Have long read The Economist and it has definitely influenced my world view probably more than anything. +1 to everything you said—it’s a huge help in conversations.

Recently, their app has included audio recordings of all their articles the day a new issue is released. That’s made it much easier for me to digest nearly the whole thing each week.

sfifs• 7 years ago

While the Economist is often recommended, somehow I increasingly find articles posted from the Economist to be very shallow takes - as if a high school literature student was asked to turn in an essay on a given topic. I have rarely felt satisfied after reading any Economist article in last couple of years through I don't know if this represents a growing understanding of the world on my part as I grow older or standards in the Economist declining. I don't necessarily feel the same issue though for NYT or WaPo articles.

jesterson• 7 years ago

Exactly this. Made me unsubscribe to paper issue few months ago.

Also noticed that they often display clear unjustified political bias, which didn't happen before. Not sure if it is intentionally or not.

Nonetheless, it remains one of the best sources for me.

crocodiletears• 7 years ago

I'm similarly attached to the WSJ's weekend edition. It's a good highlight reel for the week's news, and avoids most of the hyperventilation the NYT seems prone to.

If you've read both, how would you compare the two?

benjaminjosephw• 7 years ago

I started regularly reading The Economist a few months ago and it's absolutely transformed my relationship with media and the news. I had previously given up on consuming any media other than HN. One of my close friends challenged me to think more about my relationship with others in the world outside of my small circle of friends and family which led to me deciding to subscribe to The Economist. It has been one of the best decisions I've made all year.

In addition to the points mentioned I'd also add:

1. It's clear about it's own bias and doesn't pretend to be completely neutral in its reporting (though it is generally quite balanced). That gives me a chance to read certain articles a little more carefully when I know they are likely to clash with my own world-view and biases (i.e. the controversial article "Inequality could be lower than you think").

2. They are absolutely fantastic at injecting a little humour in otherwise quite serious journalism. For example, this headline: "Soaring pork prices hog headlines and sow discontent in China"

3. It has a good amount of intelligent comment and debate on a massive range of topics that has opened my thinking up to ideas and perspectives I hadn't previously encountered or wrestled with in any meaningful way.

I hadn't expected regularly reading a newspaper would be as enjoyable and as challenging as it has been. It's been a lot more valuable than I would have thought. I'd highly recommend it.

trykondev• 7 years ago

Over the past few months I've been consciously reducing my time spent on news sites/reddit/social media. It's been a huge benefit to my available time & overall level of focus, but that change has definitely left me craving some more legitimate & compelling articles to read and I've been feeling a bit "out of the loop". The Economist sounds like a wonderful recommendation & I've just subscribed based on reading your comment -- thanks so much for the suggestion!

hrez• 7 years ago

The Economist podcasts.

foob4r• 7 years ago

I used to spend majority of my time on Twitter, and reading NYT. But it's too much to pay attention to; I couldn't care about anything happening in the world.

Now most of my time is spent reading local newspapers, newsletters from local publications, and issue-specific publications (climate change).

I'm choosing to care about fewer things and deferring to rest of the world to care about others.

mikece3• 7 years ago

About a hundred websites for various technology news (some of the stories I share here) grouped by interest and signal-to-noise ratio (subjectively determined by me) plus a few related to politics and my hobbies (photography and hiking/camping) all consumed in QuiteRSS on both Windows and macOS.

(Am I supposed to post the OPML file for the tech news?)

bag5315• 7 years ago

My list for mostly political and non-corporate media.

https://theintercept.com/

https://jacobinmag.com/

https://www.currentaffairs.org/

bscphil3• 7 years ago

Genuine question from someone who probably (given your choices) agrees with you politically most of the time: do any of these strike you as acceptable news (i.e. non-editorial) sources? If so, why?

bag5315• 7 years ago

The Intercept - absolutely.

Current Affairs is certainly more editorial.

Jacobin is somewhere in between.

adamlangsner• 7 years ago

Washington Post, Engadget, Mac Rumors

mikece3• 7 years ago

A potentially interesting project: a Show HN OPML file generated from the sources posted on HN and weighted based on frequency of posting and up-votes for articles from those sources.

Ozzie_osman• 7 years ago

DiscoverDev for great technical blog posts. The Intercept to get an alternative media. Fox News to understand people I disagree with. The Economist.

mbreese• 7 years ago

Axios has a number of email newsletters that are very good. They come out daily or weekly on specific topics. I like the email format where I can expect a good overview of what is happening in a topic (news/politics in the AM, tech news, science weekly, etc). For me, these have been good overviews from a variety of primary news sources. I also really like the email format. I can choose to consume the information on my schedule and don’t have to worry about constantly checking website for more information. Plus, by the time the news hits Axios, the story is already relatively mature. They also release breaking news bits when major events happen (like SCOTUS rulings), with context.

Bonus feature - they show you an estimate of reading time for each message too. That can be helpful when planning your time.

plafer• 7 years ago

HN and Benedict Evans’s newsletter for me

kp98• 7 years ago

No one has said it yet to my surprise. Arguably the most trusted news outlet in America today is the financial times. Wall Street Journal at one time was a competitor, but it feels like less so today. I would support the argument made previously in this thread, that the news orgs in print and paywalled online produce better content because they don't have to run the rats race of outrage and ads - FT is one of those.

gdubs• 7 years ago

I subscribed to the print edition of the Wall Street Journal largely to get off the screen and consume less fragmented hot-takes.

The news and business reporting is amazing. The editorial board is very “Fox News”, but as someone who’s fairly liberal I get to see outside the bubble.

Edit: Oh, and Dan Neil’s car reviews every Saturday are one of the most relaxing reads of my week.

jackklika• 7 years ago

reuters.com

- The UI (especially mobile) is pretty terrible so it's hard to get hooked

- It generally only reports global news that means something rather than talking heads or identity politics

- They have published some articles critical of themselves or affiliates, which in my opinion demonstrates objectivity

Also when I'm commuting to work, I'll listen to the local NPR station on the radio which covers some local topics.

gpsx• 7 years ago

I like Reuters because it seems to be one of the more neutral news sources in the US.

protomyth• 7 years ago

For the USA, the Federal Register is the "daily journal of the United States Government". No spin, just the actual rules.

https://www.federalregister.gov/

humaniania• 7 years ago

A new account looking for other places with geo political discussion? I am becoming more cautious about how freely I share some knowledge.

m_alexgr• 7 years ago

Once upon a time I trusted the "news", and to be fair, it seemed more balanced than it is now. Maybe that was just naivete.

Today? Hard to find any "news" that isn't slanted. The weather perhaps? "News" has become propaganda.

eldavido2• 7 years ago

Local paper: SF Chronicle print edition. It's very good, great local issues coverage, which I wish people would pay more attention to, in general. Voting in California (especially Oakland, where I live) is never easy (42 questions last time!) and I felt like I knew what half of them were in advance, which is no small thing :)

Economist for world news. First-class politics coverage. I always laugh at their briefings. It's like, OK, here we go. "Briefing: Climate change". I wouldn't be surprised if we get "Briefing: World peace". Weighty and substantive.

Stratechery for tech news. It's great. I also read AVC (Fred Wilson's blog), Jason Crawford's new "Roots of Progress" from time to time. Less often I check out Remains of the Day or Wait But Why.

If I'm really feeling ambitious I read foreign affairs. Straight from the US council on foreign relations (CFR). That's the real deal.

I don't pay much attention to US national news. I don't care what nonsense Trump said. I do care intensely about local issues like transit, schools, pensions, and land use (zoning).

RickJWagner3• 7 years ago

RealClearPolitics.

Because twice daily it lists several outrageous stories from all sides of the political spectrum. I truly believe every news source today is biased, the only way to get any kind of balanced view is to scan them all and triangulate.

superbaconman• 7 years ago

I like Bloomberg radio. Most of their stuff is through a global markets lens, so their stuff is less about how things should be and more about how they actually are.

vijayrc2• 7 years ago

caspian report on youtube

vijayrc2• 7 years ago

Caspian Report on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/CaspianReport Condensed news which are more like essays, 15-20mins for each topic, they set the historical context for the current events in a very objective way.

PopeDotNinja• 7 years ago

I like some of the channel's older content. The newer stuff is a bit opinionated for my taste.

cuechan• 7 years ago

/g/

arminiusreturns• 7 years ago

I have been compiling a list for quite some time now that I have been planning on doing some sort of scoring system of. There also many video sources that are great resources as well.

That said, I will tell you the main lesson I have learned in my obsession for better understanding of the big picture; don't follow outlets, follow journalists, no matter where they go. So I was reading Greenwald long before The Intercept, and if he published somewhere else or gave an interview or talk I'd watch it. The same for others like Seymour Hersh, Robert Fisk, Nassim Taleb, Chris Hedges, Matt Taibbi, Aaron Mate, Whitney Webb et al.

Find the ones that hit hard and keep their integrity. Disregard outlets. Use RSS/atom to avoid the crappy websites that often accompany the content.

cmdr2• 7 years ago

The Prepared, by Spencer Wright. Weekly email digest of really interesting things from the world of engineering and manufacturing. https://theprepared.org/

Smithalicious• 7 years ago

I don't have any. If something is truly important to my specific interests then my friends who share those interests will alert me to it. All news I get is word of mouth.

JohnL4• 7 years ago

Other than memeorandum (techmeme mentioned several times but not memeorandum??), there's The Weekly Sift (https://weeklysift.com/)

whatitdobooboo• 7 years ago

Financial Times is great! Not worth the price if you dont split it with others, though.

WCityMike• 7 years ago

I use News Items (for-pay). https://newsitems.substack.com/

Tylast• 7 years ago

I wish this question would've been asked 1 week later as I have been trying to find a good weekly summary for years. I got fed up & created my own. I finally published it this weekend, but had to wait 4 days for approval. Anyway, here it is: https://www.wnu.news/

Ask HN: What are your news sources other than HN?

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