DaVinci Resolve for iPad

https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/media/release/20221020-02

by dagmx • 4 years ago

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post_break• 4 years ago

Pretty incredible this can come out before Final Cut Pro for iPad.

jbverschoor• 4 years ago

apple has some real issues since about a year or two

birdman3131• 4 years ago

Its not out yet.

BudaDude4• 4 years ago

It will be before Final Cut most likely

ExMachina73• 4 years ago

I think this shows that Final Cut Pro on iPad was never really in the cards. Furthermore, Apple is using this Davinci Resolve release in their own marketing materials. I love Final Cut Pro, but as time goes by it seems like it's headed the way of Aperture, after competitors like Adobe Lightroom took over the marketshare - cancellation. Especially when other developers are creating great software like Resolve and LumaFusion. Not to mention hundreds of film editors wrote an open letter to Tim Cook "begging for Final Cut Pro commitment."

Ruq• 4 years ago

Ok, this is a pretty big deal.

BudaDude4• 4 years ago

Agreed. iPad pros have had a serious lack of professional video editing software. This may be the thing that makes me buy an iPad Pro.

Valgrim• 4 years ago

Simple question here: Video files are HUGE. An iPad, even with a fairly large storage for a tablet, would be quickly swamped by the files, and to transfer the RAW video files to and from the device would make it quite frustrating.

Is there a way to connect an external drive on an iPad?

VanTheBrand2• 4 years ago

All usb-c iPads support external drives and the old lightning ones have limited support with an adapter

dmicah• 4 years ago

Sounds like it from their description ("USB-C media disks"):

Supported file formats include H.264, H.265, Apple ProRes and Blackmagic RAW, with clips able to be imported from the iPad Pro internal storage and Photos library, or externally connected iCloud and USB-C media disks.

asadlionpk• 4 years ago

Yup, the drive shows up in the Files app when mounted.

andrewmunsell3• 4 years ago

Presumably, you could edit using proxies on your iPad and only have those actually synced to the iPad itself for space saving. It's not 1:1 to your source footage, but depending on how you encoded the proxy it certainly would be good enough for cutting footage on the go and you could sync the project back to your computer to continue working.

Melatonic2• 4 years ago

Yeah proxies would be the way to go with this - that or short form content. You could easily have a bunch of high quality videos on an iPad to edit a single 2 or 3 minute video which may be their target audience here. Once you are done send those high quality source files up to a cloud storage and delete them locally.

Personally I am still waiting for someone to really get the proxy workflow right - it still requires too much manual control and planning. Someone needs to create a very robust asset management plane that does a better job of autolinking files when they are accidentality unlinked (could be easily done with a simple AI analyzing video content of different files along with an audio analyzer).

wil4212• 4 years ago

On my M1 Air I use a 500gb USB C San Disk drive as my scratch. You can get much higher drives and connect it over USB C.

barkingcat3• 4 years ago

Lumafusion (the incumbent product in this space) can edit directly on an external drive without copying the information to the ipad itself.

I use a 4tb samsung ssd and on usb-c , it's pretty much as fast as you need it to go, and if you need more space, you can get 8TB ssd's - it's more expensive, but it's easy enough to get.

sneak• 4 years ago

The iPad Pro has faster storage than most people’s computers, and the same i/o as the Macbook Air (USB3/Thunderbolt).

It would not be swamped, no.

WatchDog• 4 years ago

USB-C ipads seem to support 10gbps speeds.

You can hook up a 10gbps Ethernet adapter[0]

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HesEVXItRu0

hatware2• 4 years ago

It's thunderbolt, so 40gbps

dharma16• 4 years ago

iPadOS doesn’t support RAW video formats (just h264, h265 and ProRes) but yes you can edit directly off usb-c SSD, it’s plenty fast.

VanTheBrand2• 4 years ago

One of the things that makes this a big deal is an iPad is often the most color accurate highest quality display anyone has.

Ancapistani• 4 years ago

Yep. I do almost of my photo editing on my iPad for this reason. For video I've been using my iPad as an external display and color grading in Resolve.

Gigachad5• 4 years ago

You don't realize how extremely off consumer monitors are until you compare it to a calibrated one like the ipad.

exodust3• 4 years ago

extremely off consumer monitors are...

I'm not sure what consumer monitors you're using, but they are certainly not "extremely off". You're making it sound like shades of green on the iPad turn into muddy brown on a monitor, which isn't true.

CobaltFire3• 4 years ago

For anyone doing color critical work a $100 calibrator should be a desk accessory.

Even the factory calibration on every single Mac in my house (there are several, including a brand new M1 Air) has been notably off until calibrated.

The unfortunate thing about the iPads is that though they cover the DCI-P3 space there is no way to calibrate them. My Pro is significantly off my calibrated iMac and Air.

Kiro• 4 years ago

What does being off mean? If that's how everyone sees it, isn't that what you should use as reference instead of a device with "correct" rendering that only a few people uses?

dharma16• 4 years ago

MacBook Pros have the same Liquid Retina XDR miniled screen as the new iPad pro. It’s really good. Won’t replace your calibrated pro grading monitor but damn it’s good out of the box

gespadas• 4 years ago

This is awesome!!! It's great to have this option as an alternative on-the-go.

onebot• 4 years ago

Love this!!! I am huge DaVinci fan because it runs cross-platform (yes linux too). The price is amazing for such a high quality product. Need to see what you really can do on the iPad, I doubt the VFX stuff is there. But this is great.

retskrad• 4 years ago

Apple massively increased the price of the the entire iPad line-up in Europe. It's going to be interesting to see what impact it will have on Apple's earnings. Will Apple's goodwill make people accept the new prices or will Apple's brand take a hit for increasing the price in times where people are financially vulnerable?

simonh5• 4 years ago

Given that keeping prices the same would weigh down their earnings as well, since they're reported in dollars, the financial impact of this is not a simple thing to calculate.

haunter• 4 years ago

Oh wow company makes $1,7b profit instead of $1,9b. The end is near. Capitalism is really a cancer when the only thing matters is growth growth and growth.

The Facebook movie was really spot on with the "A million dollars isn't cool. You know what's cool? A billion" line

tshaddox• 4 years ago

It's certainly not simple for me to calculate, but I would guess that Apple has people with more information and more experience calculating such things. It's not usually a company often associated with being bad at making money.

astorsnk2• 4 years ago

It's not like they did it out of spite or greed - both the EUR and GBP have plummeted against the USD over the last year. One area they could look at though is outrageous storage premiums. The price jump between levels is now a joke.

e3bc54b2• 4 years ago

The price jump between levels is now a joke.

It has always been a joke. Now it just ain't funny anymore.

bitL6• 4 years ago

300 to 600EUR increase for the most basic iPad is not reflecting 25% EUR collapse.

mritun• 4 years ago

That’s interesting! It could partly be explained by falling Euro but could also be Apple increasing prices to include the “fine” taxes. Cost of doing business invariably gets passed on to customers.

collegeburner• 4 years ago

well Apple's an American company and we have one of the few relatively strong currencies in the world. so anything we export is going to get very expensive for y'all very quick. don't be so fast to blame Apple.

Apple's cost of business in europe is also going up from fines and requirements to e.g. migrate charging. so it's not surprising that is passed through to european customers.

also there are plenty of good substitutes and Apple has always been more of a premium brand so i don't think the "financial vulnerability" argument holds water here.

samatman2• 4 years ago

Apple doesn't need Europe. The region it's included in is worth 19% of Apple's business, and that region includes the Middle East, India, and Africa. Europe might be 10% of the business, maybe a bit more, maybe less.

Worth keeping in mind. They're quite able to wind down business in Europe if the alternative is being forced to build their devices in a way they don't want.

Raising prices to match the extra cost of doing business in Europe is a no-brainer. If that means it's no longer profitable to sell to the subcontinent, no problem, they'll just... stop doing that.

smoldesu2• 4 years ago

It's cute to imagine a world where that happens, but there isn't a chance Apple abandons their multi-billion dollar European investments because everyone hates the lightning connector. The premise of Apple leaving Europe is an idle threat.

not_math• 4 years ago

Even if it's just 10%, you don't abandon 10% of your market. That's 8 billions for Apple just last quarter.

sangnoir• 4 years ago

They're quite able to wind down business in Europe if the alternative is being forced to build their devices in a way they don't want

This assumes Apple's management has the stomach for the resulting negative revenue growth and the subsequent reaction from Wall Street.

Also, a huge chunk of their cash offshoring / tax minimization strategy is based in Europe: they'd revert to USB-A charging ports if the choice was between that and shutting down the Irish office.

krzyk• 4 years ago

EMEA does not include India.

And the MEA is peanuts compared to the first E when you think about money available to spend.

kaba0• 4 years ago

Maybe have a look at the “Brussel effect” wiki page. The EU is big enough to make worldwide changes financially the rational choice, so these choices are made based on EU laws.

clean_send• 4 years ago

This is incredible on so many fronts. 5-10 years ago, I would choose my computer based on it's potential to edit video. A decade ago, most laptops couldn't handle the load of uncompressed video. 5 years ago, having iMovie on your Ipad allowed us to make sub <5 minute videos of low-res/processed files. Now we have an intersection of 1. an Ipad is powerful enough to handle this type of data processing and 2. BMD has found ways of dealing with the huge file sizes and rendering / editing in real time. Unreal. I imagined this would come some day but not today.

simonh5• 4 years ago

We're still getting used to how much things have changed in the M1+ era.

bitL6• 4 years ago

How is iPad going to handle RAW 8k video? Its highest storage is small, good only for a scratch disk at best or for very short movies.

yieldcrv2• 4 years ago

I don't think it is the tool for the job

thetinguy• 4 years ago

External drives just like people using macbooks

simonh5• 4 years ago

When it does support it, probably very well. iPads could support editing and playing back multiple simultaneous 4K video streams long before desktop Macs could due to the huge bandwidth between cpu, memory and gpu of A series chips. M chips dialed that up to 11.

As to your storage concerns USB-C iPads, apart from having up to 2TB of internal storage and up to 16 GB of memory, support external drives just as well as any laptop. The time when high end iPads had below low end desktop specs is long gone.

mkaic• 4 years ago

If you have a camera that shoots RAW 8k video, I'd wager you aren't using an iPad to edit on.

wil4212• 4 years ago

Not many people are going to care. I know a lot more people with 4k and lower short videos from iPhones/GoPros/Drones you name it. Being able to edit personal videos on the fly would be very nice.

barkingcat3• 4 years ago

LumaFusion, aka the only way to edit professional video on iPad before this announcement, supports direct editing/ingestion and working directly on an external ssd. With USB-C and thunderbolt supported on the M1 ipads, the experience is basically, hook up your 4TB samsung external portal drive, and edit away. You don't need to copy the information onto the ipad itself. The export also goes to the external drive.

If BMD did not support this fuction for Resolve, they will have a hard time competing against LumaFusion.

However I think LumaFusion will be very carefully monitoring this market. It is theirs to lose.

Vrondi• 4 years ago

Now that mobile devices are getting this powerful, we need them to start supporting larger storage again.

haldean• 4 years ago

The workflow many post-production studios use for editing/grading is to keep files on a NAS with proxies (i.e., lower-quality transcodes of the video clips in the edit) on a local disk -- that's the workflow I use even with my desktop machine, and I bet it'll work well with this too.

regular2• 4 years ago

Nobody should be shocked that it's computationally possible for a tablet to run this software. The question is why would you opt for that?

This is on a tablet with no proper I/O, running an OS with no user-accessible file system. And, based on screen shots, this software presents essentially the same UI it does on the desktop... which is totally inappropriate (if not unusable) on a touchscreen with one's fingers.

So now we have something that is profoundly gimped by the hardware, for which you have to buy MORE hardware (a Pencil). But the Pencil is only supported by the most expensive iPads.

In the end, you're paying as much as (or more than) you would have for a MacBook Air; a real computer running a computer OS with proper I/O, keyboard, and high-quality video and audio output. It's only marginally bigger than an iPad Pro, and... get this... it has A HEADPHONE JACK, which the iPad Pro does not.

All of that makes the MacBook Air a far better portable solution for Resolve than a tablet will ever be.

Gordonjcp7• 4 years ago

20 years ago I was editing DV footage in Premiere 4 on an Pentium II 266MHz laptop, with a whopping 192MB of RAM.

So, yeah, ten years ago they ought to have been able to cope with editing.

imiric• 4 years ago

Yes, pretty incredible considering most of iPad's limitations are artificially imposed by the OS. If Apple would just allow it to be used as a general purpose PC, something they heavily market it as anyway, or gave us the ability to install macOS on it, we probably would've seen announcements like this sooner. The iPad hardware is quite capable, but it's a shame that it's restricted by the OS.

raydiatian• 4 years ago

Not many know this but the “walled garden” built around the Apple ecosystem is actually functional as a séance ring keeping the soul of Steve Jobs at peace so it doesn’t rise up from the grave to turn us all into fruitarians.

jhasse2• 4 years ago

A decade ago, most laptops couldn't handle the load of uncompressed video.

I doubt this is true. In 2006 (so 16 years ago) I bought a mid-tier Windows laptop with a 80 GB IDE HDD and I was cutting uncompressed DV avi files on it in Adobe Premiere just fine. Real time preview and everything.

zeckalpha• 4 years ago

DV was SD and lossy video compression, even if you used AVI as the wrapper format.

andrewmunsell3• 4 years ago

I've used LumaFusion for years since it's the only real editor option on the iPad. They took forever to launch vector scopes and they still don't have keyframe easing or basic speed ramping, so it's good to see some competition here.

The syncing feature may just push me to use Resolve full time, since it'd let me do basic cutting and even color grading on the iPad and any intensive work on my computer seamlessly.

mortenjorck• 4 years ago

This is "only" two of the seven modules included in the desktop version, but even just one would be a breakthrough on the iPad.

The full DaVinci Resolve is nuts: it covers a complete, Hollywood-level workflow of DAM, editing, grading, sound, and VFX (with probably the most generous freemium model in existence, by a good margin). The iPad version covers one of the two edit workflows (the one more tailored to broadcast than film) and color grading, which will cover quite a few use cases without anything else. I can especially see this being used by serious YouTubers and independent content creators.

I wonder if the asset management module is planned, as that would seem to be the next-most broadly useful module.

DoctorOW2• 4 years ago

Even when Resolve was only ever those two modules (and back then the edit was pretty basic) I thought it was incredibly good. DaVinci's dedication to publishing free (of charge) software is one of the few things keeping Adobe in check.

Melatonic2• 4 years ago

My problem was I always found it to have weird holdovers in terms of UI from hardware integration days of colour correctors. Hopefully that is gone now. But for example you used to not be able to just drag your full screen viewing window to a second monitor - they forced you to get their little hardware PCIe card. Given that most Nvidia cards will do 10 bit colour now with the studio drivers I hope they have rethought this.

dylan6048• 4 years ago

Slight nitpick, but Blackmagic is releasing the product for free. Before the acquisition, DaVinci would NEVER have released Resolve for free. At least based on their pricing models from decades prior.

digitallyfree2• 4 years ago

I've seen a lot of students serious about video editing switching from (typically pirated) Premiere Pro to Resolve as the free version got better and better. One student told me his high school filmmaking class was switching from FCP to Resolve so that everyone could easily work on their projects at home. It's pretty much the only freeware professional editing suite available - and if some of those students later work in the industry they'll prefer the system they're familar with.

When I used Resolve several years ago the system requirements were high but you could mitigate that by using a proxy workflow.

TheRealPomax3• 4 years ago

As long as folks don't think it's an NLE, because that's the one thing it isn't.

(Even though half of its users try to use it for that, get stuck, post on the forum, and then get the other half yelling at them because "it's not an NLE". 17 and 18 took things in the right direction, but it's still going to take a few more versions before people giving it a shot because they think it's a free Premiere or After Effects get burnt)

Edit, because people seem to not understand how Resolve is fundamentally different from a "normal" NLE like Avid's or Adobe's (suggesting they don't actually use Resolve, which is fine, but downvoting because you disagree is kinda weird when it really isn't like normal NLEs):

Resolve has NLE functionality, but it didn't start as an NLE, and its main focus wasn't to "be an NLE". This is first and foremost grading software, born out of wanting the best tool for grading cinema/broadcast video, the thing Black Magic sells cameras for. And of course, the best grading software needs a minimally functional edit view because you can't grade clips if you can't work with clips. And so it had that.

And while BM has been steadily improving that view and wants to morph Resolve to a more general purpose video editing suite (and in the processing become more like a real NLE rather than software with NLE functionality) you're still in a node-graph-based grading suite, just with NLE bells and whistles. A lot of what you'd do to your clips or layers, you still do in the "color" view in Resolve.

If you think you downloaded an NLE, that's going to be weird and unexpected. If you know you're working in grading software that also has a pretty great NLE functionality at this point, things make a bit more sense. Of course, the cry for "real" NLE behaviour is strong, and if many of your users want something (and your name isn't Adobe) you start adding what users want, to the point where BM now wants Resolve to become a full video editing suite, so we're getting there. But slowly. And it won't truly "be an NLE" until probably several version from now.

ayewo• 4 years ago

What's NLE in this context?

totetsu• 4 years ago

Hell if you arrange the toolbars and the camera and squint your eyes right, then wack yourself with a brick, even Blender can be used as an NLE

_aavaa_• 4 years ago

Can you provide some context as to why it's not a NLE? Everywhere i've seen it talked about it's described as an NLE

cowmix5• 4 years ago

I've seen quite the opposite. A good percentage of people coming from Premiere or After Effects feel burnt for all the years they spent in the Adobe suite. Just in stability alone is Resolve leagues better. The "batteries included" feature set is not only comprehensive in all parts of the video production pipeline, it is world class in many of the specific categories it competes in.

gamblor956• 4 years ago

DaVinci Resolve is professionally regarded as an NLE and has been for several versions. In some ways, it is a better NLE than Premiere.

While it was primarily grading software, Black Magic has stated its intent for it to be used as a general purpose video editing solution.

Joeboy4• 4 years ago

you're still in a node-graph-based grading suite, just with NLE bells and whistles. A lot of what you'd do to your clips or layers, you still do in the "color" view in Resolve.

The Edit Page isn't node-graph-based, it's a timeline with tracks and clips. What NLE functionality don't you have in the Edit Page?

Gordonjcp7• 4 years ago

I genuinely think you've never used an NLE, or Resolve.

dharma16• 4 years ago

Resolve is fantastic for editing these days. Give 18 a shot

Godel_unicode• 4 years ago

According to https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve

Resolve is: “The world's fastest and most advanced professional NLE.”

andybak• 4 years ago

DAM?

tjkrusinski• 4 years ago

Digital asset management. Simply: indexing and storing large audio and video files in a durable way.

chx• 4 years ago

I will admit I have never used it but Puget lists insane hardware recommendations, like RTX 3090 and a Threadripper. https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems...

How is a tablet going to fare?

jdboyd• 4 years ago

If you have a complicated enough project, Davinci will happy eat all the hardware you can throw at it (well, up to 3-4 GPUs at least). Puget Systems of course wants to recommend you buy the most expensive thing they can convince you to buy from them.

DaVinci's own hardware requirements listing are considerably tamer. For Mac users, they want 8GB ram minimum and a Metal or OpenCL GPU. Reportedly it works really well on entry level M1 Mac Minis. 2 versions ago worked pretty well on my 2012 Mac Mini with 16GB RAM, and supposedly newer versions run better. I've also run it on Windows with Intel graphics and it worked (not great but it worked), and on a Windows PC with an 2014 mid range GPU works extremely well for HD projects.

It isn't hard to picture them being able to tune it down to use less RAM, especially considering that that removed Fusion from the iPad version which is the most RAM intensive part of the program.

I'm not sure how well I will like using it from touch, but since the basic version for iPadOS will be free, I'll be tempted to try it on my iPad Air.

CharlesW2• 4 years ago

This is a good reference for anyone complaining that the new iPad is "too powerful", which happened a bunch in the recent announcement threads. Yes, not everyone's going to be editing 8K video on their iPad, but everything that makes that possible makes lots of other current and future advanced use cases possible. For example, the lidar sensor foreshadows that the iPad has an important part in Apple's mixed reality plans.

SSLy• 4 years ago

For example, the lidar sensor foreshadows that the iPad has an important part in Apple's mixed reality plans.

The LIDAR is there to serve as a playground for the app developers, including in-house. A glorified dev board. I doubt iPads themselves will be a part of Apple's XR plans.

CharlesW2• 4 years ago

I doubt iPads themselves will be a part of Apple's XR plans.

iPads are serving as a proxy for the Reality headset today. Meaning, you can go to https://www.apple.com/augmented-reality/ right now to get a preview of how Apple will be selling Reality to customers.

We don't yet know how Reality will work with iPads/iPhones, but one can read the tea leaves by thinking about how Apple will leverage technologies like Handoff, Continuity, AirPlay, etc. It's not crazy to think that Reality will leverage nearby devices for storage, connectivity, and even compute and GPU.

In other words: Rather than wondering if iPads will be part of Apple's MR plans, I recommend thinking about how iPads will increasingly be part of Apple's MR plans.

lvl102• 4 years ago

This is nice but any serious video editor would use a Macbook instead no? Why bother with this version?

BudaDude4• 4 years ago

The biggest reason would be the portability. If you are on a plane, using an iPad is often much easier than a full laptop.

dopa42365• 4 years ago

List of people color grading hollywood movies on their ipad during plane flights:

Cadwhisker3• 4 years ago

It's also the portability with a colour-accurate HDR screen. That's a pretty huge step-up from what most laptops can do.

twobitshifter• 4 years ago

Apple Pencil is iPad only

yamtaddle• 4 years ago

For some things, you need a "real" computer.

For some things, you need a tablet ("LOL what could that possibly be?" Oh, I dunno, does your laptop have multiple very-high-quality cameras built-in with all kind of fancy depth-sensors and AR-related hardware, an accelerometer, et c.? GPS and/or cell radio? Touch & drawing input? Stupid-high idle battery life, with near-instant-on from any level of sleep? Sure, some have some of that, but how many have all, especially without peripherals? How comfortable is it to use while standing, or while walking around? How good's your laptop at replacing a scanner? Reading PDFs or ebooks while on the go?)

The more things i-devices can do well-enough that were previously desktop- or laptop-only means more times you don't need to have both devices to be able to do all the things you want to do.

It's harder to go the other way (making laptops/desktops good at the things tablets are good at—most of those require adding more, expensive hardware, and changing or hybridizing the form factor) so the trend is in the direction of making tablets more and more capable.

smoldesu2• 4 years ago

It wouldn't be such a concerning trend if Apple was simply a really good hardware vendor. Instead, the iPad is a toll-road with a 30% tax that goes straight to Apple. If they gave iOS alternate app stores or even just opened the iPad bootloader (as we know is fully possible on M1), people wouldn't be shifting in their seats as much. Instead, Apple is innovating in one hand and extorting in the other, and then pretending like both can't exist without the other.

There isn't a company in the world that has a larger R&D budget than Apple. If $200 billion dollars in liquid funding can't design a decent, freedom respecting tablet, then Apple hasn't fixed much of anything (in my opinion).

barkingcat3• 4 years ago

Field editing, showing clients live renders as they give you suggestions for edits, being able to grab the ipad and work on some ideas while on the go.

All of these comments "why use ipad instead of Macbook to do x" has been answered a long time ago. The massive market sale through rate for the ipad ecosystem answers the justification better than anyone on this site can answer.

Same for the Lightroom/Photoshop on iPad folks - why use lightroom on ipad? so you can do it on the go without opening up your macbook. And use the pencil.

dharma16• 4 years ago

Yes most people would use a MacBook (myself included). But some people love doing stuff on the iPad, LumaFusion is a thing - whatever works hey.

Also I think Resolve is a Qt app so maybe it wasn’t a total pain to port - Apple also likely paid them to do it I would guess.

lostgame• 4 years ago

Embarrassing that this exists before Apple gets its own Final Cut Pro on their so-called 'iPad Pro'.

Never understood how they could have the audacity to call it an iPad 'Pro' when none of Apple's actual by-name 'Pro' software was - or, to this date - 5 years later - still is.

No 'Logic Pro', no 'Final Cut Pro'...still no Xcode, either. Other than illustrators/designers, can someone please explain to me what 'Pro' can use an iPad 'Pro' for any serious professional-grade tasks?

The mind boggles.

Similar to a game console, I purchase hardware for the software it can run. I don't care if it's as powerful as my equivalent MacBook Pro; because there's nothing I can use to take advantage of that power.

whyenot• 4 years ago

DaVinci hasn't been released yet. This is an announcement that it will be released for iPad in Q4. FCP could still be released first.

rcarr2• 4 years ago

Come on, this is disingenuous. If it was going to be released first it would have been the software shown off in the promo videos. They wouldn’t show a competitor if they were about to drop one of their flagship pieces of software on iPad for the first time, they’d be making a song and dance of it.

eole666• 4 years ago

This is nice, but it's not that incredible : Windows tablets running Resolve smoothly exists since many years (Surface Pro), and they do run the full davinci resolve suite on top of an actual desktop OS.

On the other hand, M1/M2 ipads pro should be way more powerfull than the Surfaces if you need to do some heavy editing/color grading. And it seems they optimized this version for the pencil use.

teeray• 4 years ago

So excited for this. I really love editing photos on my iPad in Lightroom... I find it relaxing. Much more so than if I had to grab my laptop to do it. Looking forward to doing the same with my drone footage now.

lencastre• 4 years ago

Asking for a friend who is amateur, how does this compare to LumaTouch’s LumaFusion?

Gordonjcp7• 4 years ago

It's a full-blown editing, VFX, and grading package, used for some really heavy-duty productions. If you don't want to edit larger than 4k resolution, the free-as-in-beer version does nearly everything else that the paid-for one does. The paid-for one is about 200 quid.

The training materials (I've linked to them below) are second to none, not just for video editing tools but for any software I've ever seen. Have a look at them - there are some training videos and several very comprehensive books backed up with high-quality sample material.

On a PC, you'll need a decent graphics card but I managed with a Core i5-4570, 16GB of RAM, and a GT1030 - I am a patient man, though, and don't mind kicking off a render and going for a cup of tea with a good book.

Dig through the training material:

https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/uk/products/davinciresolve/...

rcarr2• 4 years ago

Does anyone know what stabiliser they used in the promos when they were showing off the iPad Pro filming the car and then editing the footage in DaVinci?

jokoon3• 4 years ago

I tried it something like 1 or 2 years ago, it crashed.

I don't if there are CPU or GPU requirements.

mkr-hn2• 4 years ago

How could you try something that didn't exist?

POPOSYS• 4 years ago

As a pro developer you should have known that he is talking about the famous

Error 666: Software does not exist yet - exiting

This crash was annoying so many people - finally BMD did something about it!

jokoon3• 4 years ago

not talking about the ipad version, obviously

Forgeties79• 4 years ago

Man BMD has been absolutely crushing it the last 2 years or so. The number of people I see jumping to resolve as their main NLE is staggering. They were often mocked when they jumped into the cinema camera game in the early 2010s and now their imaging hardware is a production mainstay at all levels of the industry.

I am very curious to see how their foray into iOS goes here. Could be huge. Frankly I just feel like I lack the imagination for what this opens up. Can’t wait to experiment!

oDot• 4 years ago

In a fairly related note -- if there's an available editor here that knows anime style and pacing, please let me know where I can see your stuff

z9znz• 4 years ago

Has anyone here used an iPad as their primary editing tool?

Unless one were really constrained by weight or items, I don't know why someone wouldn't just edit on their Macbook.

I think it's great that you can do this on an iPad; I just wonder how useful it really is. The Macbook Air is pretty small and lightweight already.

It would be interesting to see a side by side editing session comparison with two people, one using an iPad, and the other using a laptop.

teamspirit3• 4 years ago

Now if we can just get Logic (with VSTs). I'd love to leave my MBP at home when I'm on the road and still be able to write music.

seanw444• 4 years ago

Full-fledged mobile DAW is one thing I'm surprised doesn't really exist. That would make so much money. I know I'm not the only person that gets sudden ideas that need to be expressed audibly before the inspiration is gone, on the go.

teamspirit3• 4 years ago

Far from full fledged but I just discovered that Cubase has something for iOS and Android. I got really excited until I remembered how hindered I'd be without VSTs, particularly since I mostly score orchestral.

I do believe the day is fast approaching though I was hoping it was going to be with this iteration.

thewebcount• 4 years ago

I use GarageBand with AudioUnits on my iPad all the time. It works pretty well, though they do make the AudioUnits hard to find. Obviously it doesn't have all the features of Logic (which I also use on my Mac Pro), but it's surprisingly good. And, you can take stuff from GB into Logic later if you want to punch it up or do something that's not possible on the iPad.

teamspirit3• 4 years ago

You know, I just discovered GarageBand on the iPad myself and I have to say I was impressed. Too bad my 4th gen air has lighting as a connector, otherwise I'd pop in a USB c hub and attach my little NI m32 and be rocking! With that, it would be enough to at least draft ideas on the road.

darkteflon• 4 years ago

To all the experienced DVR users: does it have good native media management capabilities?

I’m an FCPX user and always felt that was a big black mark against FCPX. For instance, it seems designed to manage your media on a per-project basis, and can’t easily be shoehorned into having a single large (organised) library accessible from many loosely-coupled projects. Disconnected original media drives don’t have graceful failure states - even when using a local proxy workflow. Tagging, sorting and displaying large media libraries always feels quite cumbersome. That kind of thing.

Keen to hear whether DVR is more sensible - I’m quite keen to give it a go if so.

taylorbuley• 4 years ago

Another easy way to use Resolve for free. Anyone here can and should use Resolve for quick and dirty color correction. Like having a good mic, it really makes your video stand out in terms of quality.

FractalHQ• 4 years ago

Too bad iPad OS is a joke. A gutted version of a real software program running on an M1 should not be exciting news in 2021.

scottlamb• 4 years ago

Supported file formats include H.264, H.265, Apple ProRes and Blackmagic RAW, with clips able to be imported from the iPad Pro internal storage and Photos library, or externally connected iCloud and USB-C media disks.

Since it runs on an iPad, I assume it uses the system libraries to support H.264 files properly, but I can't pass up the chance to grumble about the HyperDeck Studio Mini. It says it supports H.264 files, then you find this deep in the manual:

“HyperDeck Studio Mini will play back H.264 files recorded on a HyperDeck Studio Mini, but not H.264 files recorded on other video equipment.” —https://documents.blackmagicdesign.com/UserManuals/HyperDeck...

Also, it pretends the files it doesn't like don't exist at all, rather than telling you.

Cadwhisker3• 4 years ago

H.264 playback for generally rendered content was improved in release 8.1.1, according to the release notes.

dharma16• 4 years ago

Grant (the founder of Blackmagic) is incredible, one of my favourite CEOs. I’ve had Blackmagic pocket cameras since the first one and they are something else. Resolve (non-studio version) being free on desktop is nuts - it’s one of the best pieces of software I use. The value this company gives away to creators for free (or at very affordable price point) is unparalleled

coolandsmartrr• 4 years ago

Blackmagic offers a great lineup for prosumers entering into professional gear territory. Their Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera is an indie production darling, picked by many upcoming film directors and cinematographers.

I use one myself, and I appreciate how its raw format output provides flexibility to adjust colors. I edit them in Davinci Resolve, one of the best software for color grading also made by Blackmagic.

WrtCdEvrydy• 4 years ago

Holy shit, this is free and will be available on iOS devices!

robbrown451• 4 years ago

I've tried to use Resolve (on other platforms). I am quite competent in, for instance, ScreenFlow for the mac. Works great for regular video editing (not just screen capture stuff), and while there is a lot to learn, it is quite intuitive. Unfortunatley my mac is old and I need windows for work, so I thought Resolve would come to the rescue.

But I just can't wrap my head around the Resolve workflow. To do really basic stuff it seems to have a huge learning curve. I have no doubt it is powerful, but there is a point where I just can't justify the time to learn it. (I use a lot of video in my job as well as hobby/family stuff, but I'm not a professional video editor per se)

Is this anyone else's experience? Is it really only targeted at professionals? I was very excited to see that they are giving away such a sophisticated product for free, but man....

Cadwhisker3• 4 years ago

I'm an amateur, using Resolve for holiday/family clips. It took one or two YouTube tutorials for me to get it, but I've got a smooth workflow now.

    * Create project *and set the frame rate before importing video clips, because you can't change it once you've got clips*.
    * Choose "DaVinci YRGB Color Managed" under project settings, Color Managment - this is more flexible for coloring later on.
    * Add your media, then choose any clip(s), right-click and and create timeline from it.
    * Use NLE functions to make the edit.
    * Color grade (and stabilise clips).
      - Turn on Scopes -> Waveform (UI bottom right) and set the white balance by dragging the 'dot' in the middle of the Offset wheel.
        You want the red/green/blue waves to overlap where there's a region of grey/white in your video frame.
        This can be tough if you have no grey/white, but you can copy color settings from other clips.
      - Adjust other settings as necessary.
    * Deliver/export.

exodust3• 4 years ago

The best way to use DaVinci Resolve is on a desktop PC with ultrawide monitor and one of the controllers such as the DaVinci Resolve Speed Editor. I own that controller and it's great.

I really wanted to like editing videos on the couch on my iPad Pro (2018 model) 12inch with pencil in LumaFusion, and it's cool at first because "editing on an iPad".. then screen real estate reality set in. For me anyway. Video editing tasks and projects vary greatly in scope, and some projects would be great on the iPad. Maybe I'll try again later, but after getting an ultrawide monitor I discovered that yes, I really do want a timeline that wide.

bigwheeler• 4 years ago

I love the idea of editing on an iPad if it means not always having to carry a laptop around, especially on set or while out shooting. But there’s a pretty significant roadblock preventing that workflow- there’s still no way to get your footage off of your camera and on to an external drive (to plug into the iPad) without a laptop.

hatware2• 4 years ago

Most cameras can plug directly into the iPad.

orloffm• 4 years ago

So how do you move files from cameras to external USB-C drives? By having a dock/splitter that allows to connect both at the same time?

Bakary2• 4 years ago

I'm curious about professionals who do actually productive work on a tablet or even phone format. The touch screen or color calibration can be helpful, but you could probably use the money spent on an iPad in getting those extra features for your desktop or laptop. If you are a remote worker on the move, having a mobile setup would be well worth it and perhaps your only option, but the experience of getting any work done seems so woeful.

ancientworldnow2• 4 years ago

A lot of film work is done on set and mobility is important. Currently high end productions who'll use DIT (digital imaging technician) carts which quickly become unwieldly. While this one replace all those setups, in certain scenarios where you need to be mobile and fast (branded docs, smaller crews, etc) a smaller highly mobile setup becomes ideal.

imagetic• 4 years ago

It's awesome to see such a widespread response from outside the video production industry. Blackmagic has been charging ahead with Resolve development and managed to carve a niche of the industry most people thought was impossible.

I'm excited about the possibilities this could bring. For now I mostly just have a lot of questions. This sounds like it will be for smaller production work, like vlog/podcast/promo shorts where the iPads limited storage will be capable.

The cut page is a nifty idea, it makes tasks like interview string-outs and cut-downs a fairly straightforward process. I don't know a single editor who uses it though.

Color wise, assuming I can sync my stills and take the iPad on the go, would be useful in some scenarios. But that's an expensive commodity. Generally when we go to color, it requires far more storage than an iPad is capable of.

I want to love it. But right now, I'm far more skeptical of its real world usefulness. I mostly just have a lot of workflow questions. I was personally hoping for something that was more of an extension of the desktop app than a standalone product.

One thing Blackmagic needs to do is bring the advanced Resolve features into the support realm and workflow documentation. The collaboration server and the cloud sync are mystery products. There's almost no formal support or documentation on how they work, how to solve a sync issue or overwrite when they happen, or to get actual feedback on issues from real engineers.

TradingPlaces• 4 years ago

This is going to be wildly popular on film/TV sets

bofh23• 4 years ago

Web publishing aside:

Why do sites like this totally neglect the page title and meta attributes for sharing in social media such as Open Graph?

At bare minimum, why not include <title>Blackmagic Design Announces DaVinci Resolve for iPad</title> in the <head> element?

I checked the page with Facebook’s Sharing Debugger and found:

og:title: Media | Blackmagic Design og:description: All items on this website are copyright […]

DaVinci Resolve for iPad

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