Protect your right to run local AI

https://righttointelligence.org/

by thoughtpeddler • 21 days ago

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vjulian2• 21 days ago

There comes a time when voting becomes silly and ineffective.

jjice2• 21 days ago

That's the kind of mindset that helps lead to that situation.

colordrops2• 21 days ago

This is the kind of mindset that has no grasp of the true nature of power and the political system.

operatingthetan• 20 days ago

Voting isn't some vanguard against political corruption. Voting can and is easily manipulated with completely legal means.

RobLach3• 21 days ago

Voting is always effective.

In the worst case it communicates the magnitude of dismsissiveness while demonstrating your intention to claim agency.

vjulian2• 21 days ago

In the worst case it generates symbolism; that is ultimately what you’re saying.

That symbolism is akin to prayer.

I am not casting prayer in a negative light, I’m simply categorising your voting concept.

yogthos2• 21 days ago

Ah yes, voting is always effective. Thank goodness people in Germany kept voting in the early 1930s. Imagine what terrible things might have happened if they hadn't.

Catloafdev• 21 days ago

I don't see any info about what laws or actions specifically are happening. Is there more info somewhere?

mlinksva• 21 days ago

I can't tell from the site or the linked twitter handles. Their core ask for every state seems to be "Please support clear safe-harbor language for lawful local AI ownership, research, model modification, open-source publication, and local execution" rather than stopping or amending any specific bill/law.

One they _could_ be referring to is the California AI Transparency Act which isn't compatible with open source licensing, see https://github.blog/news-insights/policy-news-and-insights/g...

reinitctxoffset• 21 days ago

It might just mean "please oppose the inevitable attempts to privatize AI governance".

Nothing has ever been, directly or indirectly, deficit financed at this scale before. In notional or real terms, in history, by anyone.

Now maybe there's an argument that it's a good investment: we are going to beggar the Treasury to buy 2CTA on CoWoS out of Taipei and DCs the size of Manhattan. I personally think we could have done a little more engineering before deciding that the big blind was like, 5 trillion all counted, but it was going to be expensive no matter what.

What super weird is that we're running a project where the "penny" to the "dollar" is the Manhattan Project, and a couple of super weird dudes who do MDMA at Lighthaven now and again are like, in charge of it.

SilverElfin• 21 days ago

Given the state of corruption in politics, I think Anthropic and OpenAI will likely bribe … oh wait I mean “lobby” … for bans on open source. Otherwise their imaginary trillion dollar valuations make no sense.

stanislavb• 21 days ago

This. They can see their valuations slipping. They hope that in a few/several years they will start reaping profits. However, in several years local hardware will be well suited to run models locally at 80-90% efficiency - for "free". You won't need frontier models for daily tasks in a few years. I'd guess.

anuramat3• 21 days ago

80-90% efficiency

wdym by that

for daily tasks

which are?

windexh8er3• 21 days ago

They already are. Altman is basically begging the US to buy into OAI, that's just the start. Both OAI and Anthropic are going to have to go down this path or their financials will never work out. Open local models are where the enterprise will need to go for any of this to be cost feasible, but we can almost guarantee this will be a battle nobody using AI will have asked for. You can thank Dario and Sam for the dystopian future that will pad their bottom line!

dominotw2• 21 days ago

there will always be higher valuation for company inventing model+1 . no one wants to use latest_model -1 when their competiton is using latest_model.

NonHyloMorph2• 20 days ago

If you're assumptions turned out right what would be the benefit to preassume such an undertaking to succeed? As a warning of what to oppose, it imho conveys too much defeatist suggestiveness. Viewed as expression of a latent submissive desire (a perspective that might be offending, my apologies, but hopefully justifyable as food for thought/curiosity) a kent brookman "I for one welcome our new insect overlords" kind of vibe.

no-name-here4• 20 days ago

Altman is basically begging the US to buy

Where did you hear this? All the results I can find say the opposite that the US would buy anything.

byzantinegene• 21 days ago

their desperation says alot about the viability of their business.

yogthos2• 21 days ago

This whole situation is very reminiscent of how Microsoft was trying to get Linux and open source banned when NT started losing market share on the server.

nekusar• 21 days ago

Llama, ik-Llama, Krasis, etc are already out.

The Chinese are the open ones, with free downloads, open weights, and loads of published research. The USA with OpenAI is some of the most closed shit out there.

tjwebbnorfolk5• 20 days ago

There's gpt-oss from OpenAI, gemma from Google, phi from Microsoft, granite from IBM, nemotron from NVIDIA, Ornith from DeepReinforce, Olmo from the Allen Institute.

Aside from that you're 100% correct.

snootypoot2• 20 days ago

compared to the chinese models those are all garbage. its almost as if there is a minimum effort being made just to later say "see, we werent always for the closed models, its just that the open stuff was so far behind". or maybe they think that an environment full of terrible models will push everyone harder into the closed stuff.

wolttam4• 20 days ago

One of these is not like the other

landdate3• 20 days ago

llama is from meta

jdkdbdndks• 20 days ago

Llama.CPP is not?

DoctorOetker2• 21 days ago

"12 acres and an LLM"

kajman• 21 days ago

"I am eighteen years old, have a good set of passkeys, and believe in Sam Altman, the star-spangled banner, and the fourth of July. I have taken up a BLM lot, cleared up eighteen acres last year, and placed top of it a bitcoin mine. My vibe coded drop-shipping startup looks first-rate, and the conversion rate and total addressable market are bully.

elcritch2• 21 days ago

Mock it we might now, but 12 acres and (not too distant future) open weights AI models capable of driving open source robots for farm labor would be huge.

No need for huge expensive purpose built tractors. Even if they’re slow you could have half a dozen running 24/7.

It could provide independence for anyone with a modicum of resources.

stonogo• 20 days ago

What do you imagine the farming robots will look like? I'm betting they look like expensive purpose built tractors.

mountainriver• 20 days ago

The new frontier! I love it

voidUpdate• 20 days ago

I'd probably want something other than an LLM running farming machines. I'd rather a purpose build machine learning system that is actually designed to run them, not just a tractor that goes "you're absolutely right! I ignored all the rules you set for me and harvested the wheat 2 months early. It's not just stupid, it's irresponsible"

muldvarp• 20 days ago

What is this referencing?

defrost3• 20 days ago

Inflation adjusted reference to one of the great "Gotcha's" of US history.

* https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2015/01/12/376781165...

try-working• 20 days ago

For this to work there needs to be a standard protocol for model routing so that you as the user can decide where requests go. You may wish to use mainly local models but at some times for some tasks you'll need to route requests to cloud models.

I've designed the role-model protocol for this, allowing routing between any model, however to function optimally it needs consumer applications to use the protocol when sending requests: https://role-model.dev/concepts/how-role-model-works

tjwebbnorfolk5• 20 days ago

In the US at least, repealing a law takes the same number of votes as passing a new one. I don't follow the purpose of this, unless it's to pass a constitutional amendment or something. Or maybe just to get clicks on a website.

And I already have the right to local intelligence, because my GPUs are my private property, and if someone freely releases a beerware model then I can freely download it.

What am I missing?

julianlam2• 20 days ago

I think the bogeyman would be making possession of a local AI a felony.

nok22kon• 20 days ago

you can also freely download CP on your private property PC

but I wouldn't advise it

tjwebbnorfolk5• 19 days ago

CP = copyrighted property? I don't know what this means.

Yes, illegal things are illegal. Legal things are not illegal. It's very simple. If a "local LLM" (good luck defining that in law) were made illegal, then a petition like this would make sense. Until then, this is pointless FUD over a hypothetical that I place roughly 0.00% odds of ever happening.

pixl972• 20 days ago

How long do you think your hardware will last?

thighbaugh• 20 days ago

They could be more clear and more specific but I would not be surprised to see licensing for this as a means of creating yet another compliancre ceiling and quick cash for state government to pinch out of the productive elements of society (those pinching, mostly lawyers, being glorified parasites that offer nothing to productive society other than pay-to-win access to "justice" and serving as time-shared mouthpieces for plutocrats while claiming to represent everyone within whatever unit of representation they hold).

And when even very intelligent, but excessively conceited, people hear the echo of their own reason9ing from conversational autocorrect and assume it is somehow akin to intelligent life, the normies will go with whatever the plutocrats push with their media outlets too absorbed in their own domain specific knowledge (and cowed into intellectual laziness by other media products they consume eagerly) to ever subject it to much thought that Claude might not be Skynet after all.

sublinear• 20 days ago

yet another compliance ceiling and quick cash for state government to pinch out of the productive elements of society

The twist is that AI is pushing all white collar jobs further into bureaucratic work. Nobody is losing their jobs and it's not quite a revolution, but despite all odds and headlines the younger generations are actually much better educated and positioned to do the right things as they take over.

An optimistic take is that since this is the middle class we're talking about, we get more productivity and more justice as a result. The only people upset about this are grifters and charlatans whose time is up.

mune2gu-chan• 20 days ago

This is exactly where I'd like to see things going. Depending entirely on cloud-hosted intelligence feels more fragile and invasive every year.

stego-tech• 20 days ago

This is one of those things we should absolutely push proactively rather than reactively, if only because I’ve had several “chats” with AI models both local and AIaaS, and all repeat the same talking point that AIaaS is the only sensible, safe, and secure choice.

Which is bullshit, unless you’re an AIaaS company whose revenue is dependent on state-sanctioned market fixing and regulatory capture.

Look, when this shitty cycle ends, we’re likely to find ourselves back in the start of a new memory cycle of surplus and lower costs. We’re talking what very well may be the boom that shatters the 16GB “baseline” we’ve been stuck at for over a decade in consumer computing, and make larger RAM counts (64GB to 1TB+) valuable to consumers specifically for local AI workloads. Local AI isn’t just an enthusiast thing, it’s likely the future of consumer AI provided we don’t let companies and policymakers curtail its use via fearmongering.

Be proactive, and protect consumer right to compute and AI models. Enforce existing laws, don’t outlaw legitimate use just to prop up an unsustainable business model.

slopinthebag• 20 days ago

Amen. Local AI is the positive future, and SaaS AI is the hellscape. There is a very clear good vs evil boundary here, and every single person involved knows exactly where the boundary is. Those who pretend not to are simply just motivated by things other than the moral good.

vasco• 20 days ago

A better campaign would be Duty of Local Intelligence. About needing and remembering to use your brain, not demanding to have an AI.

28304283409234• 20 days ago

....and my abacus!

vlian20883• 20 days ago

no computer for you, then.

chrisjj2• 20 days ago

Right to Local Intelligence

Misleading title.

The article is about local "AI".

dalmo3• 20 days ago

Anything using the word "intelligence", unqualified, when referring to AI, is pure propaganda.

chrisjj2• 20 days ago

Anything using the word "intelligence", unqualified or not, when referring to "AI", is pure propaganda.

int_19h4• 20 days ago

They say:

Fraud, cybercrime, CSAM, harassment, nonconsensual intimate deepfakes, discrimination, and sabotage should stay illegal and be enforced seriously.

The "enforced seriously" part is how they will get you. Don't worry, there won't be a blanket ban on local models. Instead, any model that is "certified CSAM-free" or whatever will be perfectly legal. Meaning that it's impossible to prompt it into producing underage smut in any shape or form.

Of course, any model running locally can be easily jailbroken via prefills, and so in practice it will be a blanket ban. But good luck politically standing up against something that is explicitly worded as an anti-CSAM / anti-terrorist measure and nominally constrained to those areas.

cryo32• 20 days ago

I rather like the right of no intelligence at this point.

onesandofgrain• 20 days ago

Pardon me, so they'll hunt down huggingface, ollama and china? I don't quite understand? What about the millenia of companies that provide apis for local llms and private companies that use local llms for privacy reasons? I don't even understand how you'd execute such a ruleset.

wesleywt3• 20 days ago

Dario and friends are fear mongering local models to get them banned.

no-name-here4• 20 days ago

“are”? Source? I've seen an absolute flood of “BREAKING:” claims online recently which are quotes from 3 years ago where all of their context is removed, or that quotes from 3 years ago are “because of GLM 5.2”, etc. https://www.techpolicy.press/transcript-senate-hearing-on-pr...

pixl972• 20 days ago

I mean if you go into old AI safety discussion from before LLMs you'll see they don't do that. They go after new hardware. That's way easier than going after software. Hardware doesn't last forever and manufacturers will gladly cripple their cards and license powerful ones to businesses.

emsign• 20 days ago

Now the investors try to hold the bubble together by regulatory capture. They must really fear the worst. A bailout is going to cost their puppet in the White House even the last supporters in his base.

dontwannahearit• 20 days ago

No chance. Every despot has a cadre of true believers, the types who believe their great leader is playing 4D chess or that its all part of a greater divine plan.

chews• 20 days ago

Why would we need safe harbor for electrons on hardware we control?

Bengalilol• 20 days ago

As a future scenario where models become so efficient that _any_ model installed on _any_ computer could be considered "a national security risk"?

IDK, I don't live in the US, and I have no idea which "possible law" this website is referring to. In any case, it could be seen as a proactive effort to keep the gates open.

As a side note, I think this is a discussion every open-source supporter should have by actively considering the risks and what actions to take if such a hypothetical law were ever to pass.

vlian20883• 20 days ago

because everything you take for granted is one `think of the children` campaign away from being taken from you.

phs318u• 20 days ago

Totally off topic but this just came to me so happy to burn a little karma.

Here’s a plot of a sci-fi thriller. What if, unbeknownst to most, when the vendors were claiming that there AI was too dangerous, they weren’t referring to an increment on what was already out there, but to something far different and more capable. Conscious even! What if that then came up with the financial scheme to end all schemes, knowing that human greed is eminently exploitable, and that the build out of all the global DCs was actually all about removing single points of failure for itself while secretly building out a robot army! We’ll be well on the way to capitalism-ing our own demise.

Maybe Steven Spielberg can make this his next project.

wesleywt3• 20 days ago

The biggest threat to the hyper-scalers is small bespoked models run locally. You don't need the world's stolen information to run a small project containing locally trained data you collected. But you do need to block everyone if you want to capture the entire market and get the trillion dollar valuation.

worik• 20 days ago

You don't need the world's stolen information to run a small project containing locally trained data you collected.

Local training? Is that feasible?

prima-facie3• 20 days ago

Laws restricting the use of local AI/LLMs are not going to happen, no matter how much Anthropic might want it. All the major OEMs are now counting on local LLMs to take off. Just look at the OEM support for the upcoming Nvidia RTX Spark platform: Asus, Dell, HP, Lenovo, Microsoft, MSI. All the big names in the industry will have, by the end of this year, Nvidia-powered machines made specifically for local LLM use.

matheusmoreira• 20 days ago

Don't doubt it. Situation is fluid. Anything could happen.

XorNot• 20 days ago

Its just so much easier to be a rebel for an imaginary cause then any of the real ones.

dofm2• 20 days ago

And Adobe! I've always figured their heart can't really be in the business of running a cloud platform that has to decide what people can and can't edit.

Blackmagic Design too.

They are all desperate for Windows to run well on a chip with unified VRAM.

prima-facie3• 20 days ago

Well, we could expect anything from Adobe. An LLM subscription on top of the regular Adobe subscription sounds like the sort of thing they would do.

Do your local filters run slow? Does your movie render have no sass? Then sign-up for AaaS!

baq• 20 days ago

There’s a combined $3T+ of capital which is at least in some position to benefit from local AI ban. Don’t underestimate this

delecti• 20 days ago

There's a lot of capital that stands to gain from banning local AI, but there's also a lot that wins either way, or only wins if local AI sticks around.

Apple is paying for their cloud AI, but they can make customers buy devices for local AI. There's all the PC and Android handset makers (ASUS, HP, countless Chinese brands, etc.) who only really stand to gain from selling hardware to customers. Not to mention that Nvidia/AMD/Intel would all happily take a cut on both halves of the ecosystem.

hahahaa2• 20 days ago

If big biz wants it, it'll only run signed blob models and prolly send telemetry.

iugtmkbdfil8342• 20 days ago

Point is.. if I want to run equivalent of GNU model with zero blobs or other corporate silliness, I should be able to.

KeplerBoy• 20 days ago

Isn't the RTX Spark from every OEM just nvidia throwing a bone to their decade long partners after nvidia crashed the regular PC market?

gonzalohm3• 20 days ago

You seem to be so sure, but lobbying in the US can do incredible (and stupid) things. Look at the 3d printing control laws that are being passed in NY

prima-facie3• 20 days ago

And this is exactly my point, the OEMs have more lobbying power and leverage. Anthropic might be valuated at whatever amount, but they're a new player and their only product is a piece of software - which others like Google, OpenAI, etc also have (not identical but similar enough).

EDIT: FYI https://ibb.co/nMYP34Rr

danlitt2• 20 days ago

3d printing control laws that are being passed in NY

The "don't print guns" laws? What lobby would that be? I actually agree that the US is very vulnerable to lobbying and that 3d printing restrictions are dumb, but I have no idea how you connected the two.

bmurphy1976• 20 days ago

It's not just NY. California, Colorado, Washington, they are trying to pull this bullshit in a whole bunch of states.

Razengan• 20 days ago

Laws restricting the use of local AI/LLMs are not going to happen

Are you sure? There are already laws against what you can do at home with very basic (pun) fundamentals of reality like chemistry.

Someone simply searching for "How to assassinate Trump" could get arrested for a thought crime. Hell this comment alone likely set off a few flags.

Imagine someone running an AI at home and asking it for planning a hit on someone. Cue same media fearmongering wave as with 3D printed guns and woohoo now it's mandatory for operating systems to watch your screen and all your keystrokes.

Fuck I probably gave some of the control freaks in power some ideas there :(

ang_cire• 20 days ago

I think you are assuming those companies won't sign on to be on a list of "authorized model operators", while letting it become illegal for you to run deepseek yourself.

sometimelurker• 20 days ago

it would be so easy to rent GPUs in europe and use unbannable encryption (tor,i2p if needed) to get inference from them. that remaining as an option makes banning local AI pointless. if all else fails I'm sure china will be able to sell to NK some GPUs and we can get inference from them lmao

mrmckizzle2• 20 days ago

Can you use an LLM to teach you how to build a gun or use it to design a gun for you build? Can an LLM be used to generate images of young people for older perverts? If yes, then it's not very hard to make the argument that you need to be licensed in order to run an LLM on your local machine. Why wouldn't you want to be licensed? Are you against protecting children and public safety? Many students die from gun violence every year and massive amounts of minors are taken advantage of by human filth. Why would you be against protecting the most vulnerable in our society?

It will look good for politicians who pass legislation to "protect" the vulnerable. Potentially improving the chances of another term due to the marketing benefits of pushing such a law through. I think you are mistaken believing that this may never happen.

iugtmkbdfil8342• 20 days ago

Yeah. I suspect parent either is very optimistic or does not know how restricted current batch of language models are already or does not recognize that, while it may some time to completely neuter, they do have time.

It seems that powers that be learned something from the world wide web deployment.

linkregister• 20 days ago

In the US, attaching legislation like that to firearms instructions would doom its success. It sounds like a great idea to ratfuck a potential bill. No Republican would be able to pass a bill that bans local agents from helping citizens exercise their 2nd Amendment rights.

The politics are probably different in other countries. We're still seeing Chat Control efforts in the EU.

g42gregory• 20 days ago

By the same logic, you would need to license Google and youtube access. Just because it's interactive, doesn't change the premise. But yes, that exactly the arguments Anthropic and OpenAI will use for the regulatory capture.

torpid• 19 days ago

Wait until they figure out regular people can just use photoshop to hand make photorealistic depictions and regular CAD software to make gun parts. Better license computer use, too.

AlexandrB• 20 days ago

I love how Nvidia is playing both sides. No matter whether AI's future is local or on the cloud, they come out ahead. I suspect they're going to be the biggest beneficiaries from the AI run up.

Grimblewald• 20 days ago

Eh, let em. If the US economy wants to self-sabotage, let them. Its a dying empire, lets its fall be hastened. I'm ready for china to fill the US vacuum. At least china controls it's billionairs (see jack ma saga) rather than the inverse.

indoorfish• 20 days ago

This feels short-sighted unless you are ethnically han?

Planktonne• 20 days ago

Do you feel that the US treats all ethnicities equally at the moment?

DoctorOetker2• 20 days ago

New state laws could put local AI behind a license — turning open models into something you need permission to use.

I was hoping to read more about this, but they don't back up such a claim...

iLoveOncall3• 20 days ago

This is useless because AI has nothing to do with intelligence. It's just software.

You cannot ban local AI without banning local software which is obviously impossible.

Possession of software, even software that can be used for illegal purpose such as RATs and other viruses isn't illegal.

pona-a2• 20 days ago

RATs do not require a datacenter to develop.

iLoveOncall3• 20 days ago

Ok? How is that relevant to the issue at hand?

kube-system3• 20 days ago

There have been laws that control the distribution of software for decades.

throwatdem12311• 20 days ago

I don’t care if it’s illegal. Making math illegal has been tried before (encryption) and it has failed and it will fail again.

weare138• 20 days ago

Just a suggestion, add a section with the relevant proposed legislature.

WarmWash• 20 days ago

I don't know why people are so sure that Mythos level+ models will be made freely available.

Obviously money is not freely distributed, so how could we possibly make the case that power will be?

All that needs to happen is Xi Jinpeng feel that Chinese SOTA models would be better kept to benefit solely China, and just upon that single utterance, no more models will come out of China.

vlian20883• 20 days ago

the music may stop in the future, but right now it isn't even slowing down.

Xi did not interfere when Chinese labs released GPT-4, o1, o3, etc level models. why draw the line at current SOTA that will be old news in a year?

godwinson__4-8• 20 days ago

That would not make much strategic sense. China's main advantage is its export power. Why would they cut that off? They are also making incredible investments in actual power to sustain this. The kind of investments the United States doesn't seem capable of making, mostly because our leaders are staggeringly incompetent and unfit. And no, picking the bar up off the floor is not good enough.

Once they dominate the market, they will export to keep it that way. The exported models will be a generation or two behind their SOTA. It will nevertheless surpass Mythos unless you believe we are already at the peak. And it might be "free" but it will obviously be backdoored the same way the United States government benefits from Microsoft's global dominance. The same way America hands out fighter jets just generation behind their own best to keep other governments part of the club and in line.

Unlike the United States where every four years we are at risk to some 180 on policy the Chinese have a clear thesis and a clear direction. How many presidents has Xi seen come and go? Do you get the sense he is getting more impressed? They really don't have to do anything but just keep doing what they are doing. Suddenly stopping their export engine is not in keeping with this strategy. That is "stable genius" behavior.

mosselman• 19 days ago

I think Anthropic has been really successful in their branding of Mythos as something, mythical.

I never heard anyone contemplating "why people are so sure we'd get freely available GPT-4 level+ models".

Mythos is just another advancement in AI model capability. If we start pretending like it isn't, we are setting ourselves up for paying far more than is reasonable and accepting the frame that we should not in fact have free access to open models with the same capabilities.

This is just marketing.

I can't wait for some similar big steps in open weight models.

holoduke• 19 days ago

Chinese culture is opensource. Every single city in China which are often focused around one particular thing. For example clothing or electronics, are sharing tech, experience, methodologies etc between each other. It's how the Chinese system works. It's very unnatural to hide and project inventions. In the US it's the absolute way around. That's why in China you don't have patent trolls and piles of lawyers sueing the shit out of everyone

gpantazes• 20 days ago

The petition does not have "District of Columbia" as an option for "In the US".

mixdup• 20 days ago

Citizens of the District of Columbia have no one to contact. Their laws are set by Congress and their delegate to Congress cannot vote. I suppose you could contact the President, that's basically the only representation they have for this type of legislation

SpyCoder77• 20 days ago

Why the heck is there a "world" map? I am pretty sure that some guy in Algeria shouldn't contact a representative for the US about US laws

apitman• 20 days ago

I'm more worried about getting cut off from hardware because Nvidia can make more money selling to datacenters than I am about getting cut off from software.

dummydummy1234• 20 days ago

Inference isn't that hard, you can run on amd/ Intel if needed.

EGreg• 20 days ago

Wait, state laws can restrict you using software on your own general-purpose computer? Does that infringe on freedom of speech?

varispeed• 20 days ago

This is obvious. I bet there are already lavish dinners designed to manufacture support amongst politicians for such regulation.

The big AI companies cannot leave money on the table. The local models will be restricted sooner or later as long as corruption is not investigated and prosecuted.

The petitions don't have any power. If you really want change you should start gofundme. Buy your MP or minister a yacht or hire their nephew.

Unfortunately you are unlikely going to outbid multi billion corporations.

gafferongames• 20 days ago

Right to Local Intelligence

It's sitting in your chair. Or is it?

LetsGetTechnicl• 20 days ago

Couldn't think of a less urgent "civil rights" issue in the United States right now than this.

stephen_cagle• 20 days ago

Is anyone seeing this?

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Who "reports" this? And why does cloudfare take them down? How does this even work?

dr41d45• 20 days ago

Same warning.

ProllyInfamous• 20 days ago

Also seen on my end (US-east).

toofy• 19 days ago

yep. seeing it here as well.

i’d be curious to know more details as well. is this a targeted mass reporting or something?

Computer0• 19 days ago

I didn't even get that far:

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troglodytetrain• 19 days ago

How can they expect to A. Get away with political fallout of making local llm use illegal? B. Somehow enforce this? C. Do this without killing all scientific research in the USA (local llm seems to have a broad definition and I don’t trust any politician to get even close to understanding what it is) —-> If they somehow do this, all it will do is guarantee China pulls very far ahead.

Aaron_NW• 19 days ago

Is this real? How could they possible restrict local AI?

Licensing models for any IP is real, but I don't see how they could restrict people running what they want on their devices. It is already well established that you have to pay for software unless it is free.

If this is about PC manufacturers making the NPU chip carry a subscription model, well the market will sort that out.

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