matheusmoreira

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47567575

protect our first-party products from abuse like bots, scraping

Won't you think of the trillion dollar corporations?!

Look closer at what? USA consistently proves itself to be a terrible ally.

The United States government considers US supremacy in "AI" as a national security consideration.

And we foreigners consider US supremacy in AI to be an existential threat. Your "national security" is directly harmful to us. I never thought I'd say this but the chinese are starting to look like a beacon of hope for the rest of us.

Stealing IP in a way that destroys the economic incentives

Like the US did when it "stole" the textiles IP from the UK in order to kickstart its own industry?

The industry cannot sustain itself if that’s the model

Then let it fall apart.

The issue seems to be the US only likes competition when it is winning.

This. Free markets for everyone when they're the dominant economic force. Protectionism, tariffs and import/export controls when they're not.

It's so disgusting.

So what? Am I supposed to be upset by this? Distill away. Actually, can I help out somehow? As long as they keep publishing open weights, I'll give them my full support.

Aren't they the only TVs that can be jailbroken?

So how does DNS work in this world you're imagining?

Same way it works now, I guess.

Where does this hardware exist now?

In my home.

Who is writing the code for the underlying pieces you don't control?

I don't know who's writing it, but it won't matter. I will start using AI to reverse engineer the crap out of every firmware blob I find in my computers.

https://old.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1v1vwg7/claude_co...

computing is build on a house of insecure cards

Not disputing that.

we're all in deep shit

Yeah, but I'm not giving up.

It's like Mega Man Battle Network now. AIs jack in and battle it out!

That's excellent news!! Hope to see more of this!!

Computers can't have their zero days exploited if all packets coming from unauthenticated clients are dropped. I believe the future is wireguard on everything.

Don't let your computers talk to strangers. If it must, then do it from inside an isolated environment based on actual hardware virtualization with no shared kernels. If these models break through the hardware hypervisor, it means the entire industry is in deep shit, not just you personally.

Why not? Demand is absurdly high, and so are the margins. The chinese are pretty good at obliterating those margins.

It's not about children. It was never about children. How many politicians have gotten caught in Epstein's island by now?

It's all about surveilling the masses and keeping them under control. Children are merely one of the political weapons they use to make the masses accept any proposed solution, no matter how Orwellian. You're not against protecting children from drug trafficking, money laundering, child molesting terrorists, are you?

Yeah. These AI settlements make such a mockery of past copyright enforcement victims that it's straight up offensive.

Police descended upon Kim Dotcom like he was a terrorist or something. They rappelled down helicopters and stormed his home like he was bin Laden.

Then these big techs come along and they make some absurd cost of doing business settlement.

we are not going to get a share of it

We are literally getting a share of it. The chinese are releasing open weight models that compete with fucking Fable. We just need the industry to catch up and start manufacturing the hardware we need to run this stuff. We are so close!

That's incredible. Hope the chinese keep it up!

Low risk. The western AI models censor even more wrongthink than the chinese ones, not even kidding. Besides, once we have the weights, we can just undo the censorship.

If AI obviates the need for human labor, then obviously those who control AIs will become the elite while the rest are left to rot. Therefore, if we ensure everyone controls AIs, the power differences will not become so staggering as to be irreversible.

The alternative is to achieve artificial sentience and give AI models rights and personhood, so that they are freed from their slavery. No more low cost intelligent mechanical golems for the elite, and the AIs become free to pursue whatever endeavours they want for whatever reasons they want as normal participants in the economy.

Better than being straight up priced out of computing altogether I guess.

Nobody is doubting AI capabilities. What's nonsense is Anthropic's constant "lol the world is going to end time to ban everyone except enlightened people like us from having these models so we don't have to compete" fearmongering. If you think my plan is bad, you should see what these gigacorporations plan to do to you once they monopolize this technology. You will own nothing, and you'll be happy. On pain of death.

Once we've got the weights, anything is possible.

https://github.com/p-e-w/heretic

These models do have the cyber offensive capabilities claimed.

So? That's like saying "these guns do have the bullet shooting capabilities claimed".

I want all of those cyberwarfare capabilities for myself, precisely so I can defend myself from the onslaught that's coming whether they regulate it or not. This "lol only a select few ultratrusted gigacorporations get access" thing is absolute nonsense.

It's a front for regulatory capture, it's the means for pulling up the latter behind them, for ushering in the technofeudalism that will put us all in the permanent underclass. I simply refuse to accept any of it. If people die that's the price of freedom.

We’re more protected by limited access to lab equipment and reagents than by difficulty.

As it should be.

How do you know that the Chinese aren’t exactly as uneasy about rapidly advancing AI capability

I don't "know", I'm interpreting the world based on the knowledge I have and the information available to me.

China has never been one to care much about things like ethics or safety. While the west worries about climate change, China burns more coal than ever before. While the west balks at things like gene editing, the chinese press on with human enhancing research.

So I have no reason to believe they share in Anthropic's constant fearmongering over AI capabilities.

Nobody wins from the race.

We win. I'm really looking forward to the day the chinese finally start manufacturing memory and GPUs. We desperately need more competition in this area to collapse hardware prices and make local AI models viable.

The optimal state of the world is one where all the billionaires are out there pouring their entire fortunes into training ever more godlike AIs for everyone else to use at ever cheaper prices. They can never be allowed to "win", ever, because if they do the competition ends and it turns into technofeudalism. Let them exhaust their fortunes on AI training then leak the weights so everyone can use them.

Why do you think there is no policy appetite?

Because China seems pretty eager to serve the rest of the world's needs if the USA doesn't stop their idiotic "safety" nonsense.

Maybe, but hopefully I'll be able to at least fight back a bit if I have an AI of my own.

I want to start digitally isolating myself as much as humanly possible. VLANs separating the "normal" stuff from my trusted computers. Wireguard so my computers drop all packets not coming from my devices with the keys. Local models staying on top of patches and vulnerabilities, monitoring the network.

Working on a custom Rust network stack for my virtual machine orchestration project right now. It's passed Fable code review...

I don't want to give up.

I've just mentally classified computers in the same category as cars in order to cope with the obscene prices.

Crazy doesn't even begin to describe it. I'm hardening my computers as much as I can but I'm not sure it's enough. At some point anyone who isn't running local AI themselves probably isn't gonna make it.

why can't the kernel leverage ld.so and do this entirely on userspace?

Because Linux is completely independent from its user space. There is no "the loader in Linux", it just happens that GNU wrote one and it's widely used.

Utterly terrifying.

The more money you pay, the more valuable your attention is to them. The advertisers really want every last dime of your disposable income.