Cursor CLI

https://cursor.com/cli

by gonzalovargas • 12 months ago

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unsupp0rted• 12 months ago

What's the benefit of this compared to the IDE? To be more like Claude Code?

sblawrie• 12 months ago

You can spin up the Cursor CLI inside the terminal of your IDE of choice and not be tethered to Claude's models.

zaphirplane• 12 months ago

Is there a better agent than the anthropic one

jstummbillig2• 12 months ago

I am so curious to know. Why is Cursor not just putting whatever this supposedly does better into... Cursor?

jonplackett• 12 months ago

To compete with Claude code

anthonypasq• 12 months ago

i dont think it actually does anything better than the chat window in the editor. its strictly worse tbh. it just lets you not be tied to a VSCode interface for editing.im sure Jetbrains diehards would very much appreciate this, but honestly i will find it hard to utilize given the fact Cursor's tab auto-complete is so amazing.

bangaladore• 12 months ago

Many of these companies are realizing that mainline VSCode is a moat of sorts. I and many people I know won't use any of these that require forking VSCode.

With the benefit that you can also pull in people who don't like using VSCode such as people who use Jetbrains or terminal based code editors.

gorjusborg• 12 months ago

Flip your thinking around for a second and consider why an IDE is required for an agent that codes for you?

The IDE/editor is for me, the agent doesn't need it. That also means I am not forced to used whatever imperfect forked IDE the agent is implemented against.

worldsayshi2• 12 months ago

why an IDE is required for an agent that codes for you

Because the agents aren't yet good enough for a hands off experience. You have to continuously monitor what it does if you want a passable code base.

stavros3• 12 months ago

I don't really need an IDE, but I do need a great code review interface.

dagss• 12 months ago

Whenever I have to take the wheel myself the AI tab completion makes it much smoother so I am kind of addicted to that. Semi-automatic mode.

I would much rather use IntelliJ so perhaps my habits will change at some point, but right now I am stuck with Cursor/vscode for the tab completion.

nojs• 12 months ago

So you can use an IDE other than VS code.

ygouzerh2• 12 months ago

Actually, I think where Claude Code shines, is with the VSCode Extension. It's a great mix between a CLI that could be used in a bash script for automation, as well as a coding assistant.

I haven't found however if Cursor cli provides this kind of extension

phren0logy• 12 months ago

Holy moly. I did not see that coming, but it makes sense. I’m enjoying the terminal-based coding agents way more than I ever would have expected. I can keep one spinning in the background while I do #dayjob, and as a bonus I feel like a haX0r.

2025 is the year of the terminal, apparently?

For my prototype purposes, it’s great, and Claude code the most fun I’ve had with tech in a jillion years.

LeoPanthera• 12 months ago

That's funny. I was really hoping that Anthropic would make a "Claude GUI".

consumer451• 12 months ago

In one of their Claude Code talks they said it didn’t seem worth it, given their expectation that all IDEs will become obsolete by next year.

kridsdale3• 12 months ago

Xcode pretty much hung up their hat this year, and threw in with Claude.

didibus4• 12 months ago

Isn't that Claude Desktop?

pizza• 12 months ago

If I'm not mistaken, it may be feasible to build one with the Claude Code sdk

amclennon• 12 months ago

At this point, there are more AI coding agents announced every week than Javascript frameworks, but to be honest, I'm here for it.

wilg• 12 months ago

Think how many JavaScript frameworks can be vibe coded now!

kylecordes• 12 months ago

(This is an exaggeration:)

Sure, you can have your LLM code with any JavaScript framework you want, as long as you don't mind it randomly dropping React code and React-isms in the middle of your app.

stavros3• 12 months ago

Why would we create a framework to make coding easier when nobody writes code by hand any more?

fullstackwife• 12 months ago

The concept of JS framework which allows you to rapidly develop an app has the same underlying vibe as coding agent

irrationalfab3• 12 months ago

Ironically, LLMs might make it very hard for new frameworks to gain popularity since they are trained on the popular ones.

touristtam• 12 months ago

To be honest I am being positive and hopefully we'll see an explosion of AI agent that will help iron out all the bug in FOSS that is hosted on different source code hosting platform. Renovate on steroid. I would work on that if my daytime job wasn't my main and only source of revenue.

hollowturtle• 12 months ago

Think how much training has been done on such Javascript frameworks... no one stops wondering what the outcome would be. The only fact that when I ask to create an app, without any further detail about what to use, and it defaults on React, imo it's a total failure whatever the agent

jona777than• 12 months ago

This made me chuckle. Excellent comparison. I share your sentiment; it’s more exciting than distracting.

phist_mcgee• 12 months ago

The joke's tired now bro. It hasn't been true for a good 5-7 years now.

asadm• 12 months ago

seems pretty basic. I don't see anything unique here. I am happy with my Gemini CLI.

twapi• 12 months ago

Claude Code finally has a serious competitor.

asdfologist• 12 months ago

Not sure. So far Reddit seems largely negative on Cursor CLI + GPT-5

https://www.reddit.com/r/cursor/comments/1mk8ks5/discussion_...

wahnfrieden• 12 months ago

They are all using mid-tier gpt-5 variants (not the "-high" one that's hidden by default, not gpt-5-thinking) and don't realize it

afro88• 12 months ago

Claude Code but can use GPT-5 built in. Not a bad selling point

huydotnet• 12 months ago

and access to Cursor's background agent on the web as well, like ChatGPT Codex. So to this point, I'm regret cancelling my Cursor subscription already

jasonjmcghee• 12 months ago

Claude Code can use GPT-5 via LiteLLM

https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/claude-code/llm-gateway#l...

https://docs.litellm.ai/docs/tutorials/claude_responses_api

jameskraus• 12 months ago

I wonder if this will support directly interfacing with OpenAI's APIs vs. going through Cursor's APIs (and billing).

joshmlewis2• 12 months ago

I would highly doubt it. Even when you BYOK inside of Cursor they still say it's routed through their servers.

blitzar• 12 months ago

Pivot to CLI

cpursley• 12 months ago

There are certainly some lessons here that go beyond coding agents (when it comes to shipping products).

htrp• 12 months ago

They are all clones of gemini cli at this point?

hollerith• 12 months ago

Since Gemini CLI was released under the Apache license, a clone is easy to make.

alessandrorubio• 12 months ago

Wouldn't be better to just use the Warp AI solution at this point?

buremba• 12 months ago

Only if it would work. I think they miss a big opportunity here by (1) not caring about security at all, (2) trying to develop their own model and only make it available in the cloud.

didibus4• 12 months ago

What's the difference between Warp and just opening multiple tabs in my terminal?

risho2• 12 months ago

is there a way to get it to display more information? its stuck not doing anything and i cant tell if that's because it timed out or it is running a script or it is thinking or what is even happening. sometimes it just does things without even giving any feedback at all. i dont know what it is thinking or what it is trying to do and i cant really see the output of the terminal commands it is running. it just pauses every once in a while and asks to run a command.

is there a way to make it more verbose?

joshmlewis2• 12 months ago

I noticed it was taking awhile on the first large-ish task I gave it. I'm assuming it was just a bit overloaded at the moment.

thehamkercat3• 12 months ago

I wonder when all of them will adopt AGENT.md and stop using gemini.md/claude.md/crush.md/summary.md/qwen.md

https://agent.md [redirect -> https://ampcode.com/AGENT.md] https://agent-rules.org

js2• 12 months ago

That's a more obvious (but less fun) name than what I've been using: ROBOTS.md with symlinks.

thehamkercat3• 12 months ago

https://ampcode.com/AGENT.md#migration

they also suggest using symlinks for now

sneak2• 12 months ago

When they stop getting desperate for differentiation by spamming their brand advertising in your repo against your will.

Claude Code likes to add "attribution" in commit messages, which is just pure spam.

striking• 12 months ago

You can turn it off: https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/claude-code/settings#avai... `includeCoAuthoredBy: false`

what2• 12 months ago

It’s not spam, it lets people know it was written by an LLM and maybe you should look closer at it.

computerfriend• 12 months ago

I've experimented a little with LLM agents (only Claude Code). I definitely don't want the agent to write the commit messages (they should be written by a human as they're for human consumption) so I manually added the co-author trailer. It's morally correct to provide attribution.

prmph• 12 months ago

Yep, that's a peeve of mine. I've resorted to using AGENT.md, and aliasing Claude, Gemini, etc to a command that calls them with an initial instruction to read that file. But of course they will forget after some time.

The whole agentic coding via CLI experience could be much improved by:

- Making it easy to see what command I last issued, without having to scroll up through reams of output hunting for context - Making it easy to spin up a proper sandbox to run sessions unattended - Etc.

Maybe for code generation, what we actually need is a code generator that is itself deterministic but uses AI, instead of AI that does code generation.

thehamkercat3• 12 months ago

I think most of them provide an option to change the default file, but it'll be really good if they all can switch to AGENT.md by default

Till then you can also use symlinks

there are issues opened in some repos for this

- Support "AGENT.md" spec + filename · Issue #4970 · google-gemini/gemini-cli

https://github.com/google-gemini/gemini-cli/issues/4970#issu...

manmal• 12 months ago

In case you haven’t seen this, you can just pipe contents into Claude. Eg

cat AGENT.md | claude

IIRC this saves some tokens.

codesnik• 12 months ago

maybe symlinking will work

irrationalfab3• 12 months ago

Thank you so much for this!

ijidak• 12 months ago

Agree. It's all English. That's the whole point of these tools.

Why are we purposely creating CLI dialects?

stillsut• 12 months ago

Yeah I suspect some of these providers will become Microsoft in the '90s type bully holdouts on implementing the emerging conventions. But ultimately with CLI interface you have workarounds to all the major providers read in your system guidelines. But in an IDE - e.g. like MS had with VisualStudio - you more lock-in potential for your config files.

Yesterday, I was writing about a way I found to pass the same guideline documents into Claude, Gemini, and Aider CLI-coders: https://github.com/sutt/agro/blob/master/docs/case-studies/a...

rapind• 12 months ago

Isn't think just a symlink?

neuronexmachina2• 12 months ago

I really like the idea of standardizing on AGENT.md, although it's too bad it doesn't really work with the .cursor/rules/ approach of having several rules files that get included based on matching the descriptions or file globs in frontmatter. Then again, I'm not sure if any other agents support an approach like that, and in my experience Cursor isn't entirely predictable about which rules files it ends up including in the context.

I guess having links to supplementary rules files is an option, but I'm not sure which agents (if any) would work well with that.

dgunay• 12 months ago

I just wish the AGENTS.md standard wasn't a single file. I have a lot of smaller context documents that aren't applicable to every task, so I like to throw them into a folder (.ai/ or .agents/) and then selectively cat them together or tell the agent to read them.

esafak2• 12 months ago

You can put them in subdirectories like CODEOWNERS files. https://ampcode.com/AGENT.md#multiple-agent-files

troupo3• 12 months ago

Elixir has this idea with usage rules: https://hexdocs.pm/usage_rules/readme.html

dotancohen4• 12 months ago

You could have a python script that generates the MD file on the fly, based on how you want to prompt the model. I think it's kind of funny, how deep we are getting with tools instructing tools instructing tools.

bikeshaving• 12 months ago

Every time I’ve ever read a {CLAUDE|GEMINI|QWEN}.md I’ve thought all this information could just be in CONTRIBUTING.md instead.

hahajk• 12 months ago

Yes! I want an option to always add README.md to the context; It would force me to have a useful, up to date document about how to build, run, and edit my projects.

__MatrixMan__• 12 months ago

If I'm writing for a human contributor, I'm gonna have a pretty high bar for the quality of that writing.

An agent on the other hand, one who is in that sweet spot where they're no longer ignorant, and not yet confused... It's nice to have them dump their understanding to agent_primers/subsystem_foo.md for consumption by the next agent that touches that subsystem. I don't usually even read these until I suspect a problem in one. They're just nuggets of context transfer.

stonecharioteer• 12 months ago

Symlinks $AGENT.md to AGENT.md in your repo.

anp• 12 months ago

FWIW at least with Claude and Jules on a project I have a decent setup where I put all of the real content in an agents.md and then use “@agents.md” in CLAUDE.md. If all of the tools supported these kinds of context references in markdown it wouldn’t be that hard to have a single source of truth for memory files.

yougotwill• 12 months ago

Same here each specific instruction file (vs code, cursor, etc.) just says read the AGENTS.md for instructions

fastball2• 12 months ago

That sounds nice and I have the same pain, but not sure AGENT.md is the right abstraction either. After all, these models are indeed different and will respond differently even given the same prompting. Not to mention that different wrappers around those models have different capabilities.

e.g. maybe for CURSOR.md you just want to provide context and best practices without any tool-calling context (because you've found it doesn't do a great job of tool-calling), while for CLAUDE.md (for use with Claude Code) you might want to specify tools that are available to it (because it does a great job with tool calling).

Probably best if you have an AGENT.md that applies to all, and then the tools can also ingest their particular flavor in addition, which (if anything is in conflict) would trump the baseline AGENT file.

JamesSwift• 12 months ago

Then lets do:

  AGENT.md
  AGENT.CLAUDE.md

They get applied AGENT first, then AGENT.CLAUDE. You are able to specify agent specific instructions in the AGENT.md:

  @agent-disable CLAUDE
  These instructions are not parsed by claude
  @agent-enable CLAUDE

ako3• 12 months ago

I asked claude code for a guidelines file so it would collaborate with windsurf. This is what it proposed:

---

    This project uses shared planning documents for collaboration with Claude Code. Please:

    1. First read and understand these files:

       - PLAN.md - current project roadmap and objectives

       - ARCHITECTURE.md - technical decisions and system design

       - TODO.md - current tasks and their status

       - DECISIONS.md - decision history with rationale

       - COLLABORATION.md - handoff notes from other tools

    2. Before making any significant changes, check these documents for:

       - Existing architectural decisions

       - Current sprint priorities

       - Tasks already in progress

       - Previous context from Claude Code

    3. After completing work, update the relevant planning documents with:

       - Task completion status

       - New decisions made

       - Any changes to architecture or approach

       - Notes for future collaboration

    Always treat these files as the single source of truth for project state.

novaleaf• 12 months ago

problem is that claude doesn't actually read those or keep them in context unless you prompt it to. it has to be in CLAUDE.md or it'll quickly forget about the contents

ascorbic• 12 months ago

You could create a CLAUDE.md that just contains:

  @AGENTS.md

Still messy, but at least it means it's using the same content

zarzavat• 12 months ago

Never. It's a marketing strategy. Some percentage of users will check these files into their repos, and some percentage of repo browsers will think "what is this X.md?" Given how much money people are spending on these things the value of having a unique filename must be enormous.

getflourish• 12 months ago

Brand asset

drdaeman• 12 months ago

It’s a marketing strategy that works here and now, but “never” is a very long time. What could be seen as pioneers claiming names today could be also seen as retrogressive stubbornness tomorrow and lose its marketing value.

stpedgwdgfhgdd• 12 months ago

The deeper problem are the custom commands, hooks and subagents. The time has come that you need to make a strategic choice. Once you have heavily invested into CC, it is not easy to turn to an alternative.

Side remark: CC is very expensive when using API billing (compared to e.g. GPT-5). Once a company adopts CC and all developers start to adapt to it at full scale, the bill will go out of the roof.

asboans• 12 months ago

Symlink?

calmoo• 12 months ago

The font on that RFC is aggressively squashed and aliased, why?

ignoramous• 12 months ago

Different file names is easy analytics (ex: 'how many OSS projects use gemini.md and claude.md' is a mere search query).

leerob2• 12 months ago

(I work at Cursor) The CLI supports AGENT.md as well as CLAUDE.md and Cursor Rules.

vmt-man2• 12 months ago

For example: i'm using Claude Code mostly + Gemini CLI. Gemini CLI is not such powerful as CC, also it won't work with some mcp's. So i have different *.md files.

neuronexmachina2• 12 months ago

I haven't tried it yet myself, but I noticed their product page (https://cursor.com/cli) says:

Set your own rules: Customize Cursor's work with rules, AGENTS.md, and MCP.

There's no mention of it in the docs, though. It's also interesting it's AGENTS.md on that page instead of AGENT.md, I wonder if that's a typo.

enobrev• 12 months ago

I think I'd be happier with a standard .agents directory and have all of these in there. I imagine each agent is going to need its own tweaks to get it to work just right with their system prompts, just as Claude already has it's project-specfic .claude directory for hooks and commands and whatnot.

I'd rather .agents/claude or something so we can get these files out of the root directory, which, at least for typescript projects, is already a confetti-like jumble of json files for every little "simple" tool that needs its own configuration file.

I get why package.json isn't enough. But would a .config directory standard really have hurt us so much?

augusto-moura• 12 months ago

Ideally (and in practice, so far) they shouldn't change that much. The agent instructions should be close to a human explanation, and they are pretty good at parsing instructions anyway. In my experience you can symlink the same file to all paths and they work as expected.

tsvetkov2• 12 months ago

Fascinating to see how agents are redefining what IDEs are. This was not really the case in the chat AI era. But as autonomy increases, the traditional IDE UI becomes less important form of interaction. I think those CLI tools have pretty good chance to create a new dev tools ecosystem. Creating a full featured language plugin (let alone a full IDE) for VSCode or Intellij is not for a faint-hearted, and cross IDE portability is limited. CLI tools + MCP can be a lot simpler, more composable and more portable.

cheschire2• 12 months ago

IDE UI should shift to focusing on catching agentic problems early and obviously, and providing drop dead simple rollback strategies, parallel survival-of-the-fittest solution generation, etc

__loam2• 12 months ago

My fundamental worry with this technology is that you all are going to seriously fuck up the development experience for those of us who feel the technology at the core of this stuff is not sufficient. Development efforts will focus on this work flow at the expense of good software.

blurbleblurble2• 12 months ago

Hopefully this one is as good as Claude code. None of them that I've tried have come close yet.

lvl1553• 12 months ago

Have you tried opencode?

blurbleblurble2• 12 months ago

Yeah, opencode and crush. I'm gonna give Claude code router a good try soon.

vmt-man2• 12 months ago

It's not ready yet :)

p.s: looking forward for crush :3

cheema332• 12 months ago

My first thought was, "meh, I already have Claude Code". But then I remembered my primary frustration with Claude Code. I need other LLMs to be able to validate Claude Code's assumptions and work. I need to do this in an automated way. Before Cursor CLI, I did not have a way to programmatically ask Cursor do this. It was very manual, very painful. But, now I can create a Claude Code agent that is a "cursor-specialist" that uses cursor cli to do all of that in an automated way.

good8675309• 12 months ago

Interesting, are you saying you would setup a Stop Hook in Claude Code that calls the Cursor CLI to have it validate and prompt Claude Code with further instructions?

thornewolf• 12 months ago

They realized that CLI is the much better interface for these kinds of tasks.

sofal• 12 months ago

I don't think this is why. I listened to a recent podcast with Michael Truell and he made clear they think the TUI is an inferior form factor. This feels more like a reactionary move than a visionary one.

lherron2• 12 months ago

With all the frontier labs competing in this space now, and them letting you use your consumer subscription through the CLI, I don’t understand how the Cursor products will survive. Why pay an extra $X/mo when I can get this functionality included in the $Y/mo I’m already paying OAI/Anthropic/GOOG?

impulser_• 12 months ago

Because you can always use the best model. Yesterday is was Claude Opus 4.1, today it's GPT-5. If you just were paying Anthropic you will be stuck with Claude.

lherron2• 12 months ago

Yeah but I still want a general purpose chatbot subscription also. So I’d have to buy Cursor + something else.

I guess Cursor makes sense for people who only use LLMs for coding.

vineyardmike• 12 months ago

I agree that cursor has to take an aggressive and differentiated approach to succeed, but they have the benefit of pushing each lab into a commodity.

I pay for Cursor and ChatGPT. I can imagine I’d pay for Gemini if I used an android. The chat bots (1) won’t keep the subscription competitive with APIs because the cost and usage models are different and (2) most chat bots today are more of a UX competition than model quality. And the only winners are ChatGPT and whatever integrated options the user has by default (Gemini, MSFT Copilot, etc).

didibus4• 12 months ago

I'm actually starting to think the opposite.

If Cursor can build the better UX for all the use-cases, mobile/desktop chatbot, assistant, in IDE coding agent, CLI coding agent, web-based container coding agent, etc.

In theory, they can spend all their resourcing on this, so you could assume they could have those be more polished.

If they win the market-share here, than the models are just commodity, Cursor lets you pick which ever is best at any given time.

In a sense, "users" are going to get locked in on the tooling. They learn the commands, configuration, and so on of Cursor, it's a higher cost for them to re-learn a different UX. Uninstalling and re-installing another app, plugin, etc. is annoying.

lvl1553• 12 months ago

No, model providers are not going to let Cursor eat their pie. The biggest cost in AI is in developing LLM models and inference. Players incurring those costs will basically control this market.

risho2• 12 months ago

I think the complete opposite. I love the ux for claude code, but it would be better if it wasnt locked to a single vendor's model. It seems pretty clear to me that a vendor neutral product with a UX as good as Claude Code would be the clear winner.

MrGreenTea2• 12 months ago

Habe you tried opencode? I haven't really, but it can use your anthropic subscription and also switch to most other models. It also looks quite nice IMO

daft_pink• 12 months ago

Is the pricing any good?

rtuin• 12 months ago

It seems they haven’t implemented MCP client features in Cursor CLI yet

Rhubarrbb• 12 months ago

Does it work with local LLMs like through Ollama or llama.cpp?

lvl1553• 12 months ago

Seriously Cursor. You can’t just write wrappers all your life. VSCode wrapper and now Gemini CLI wrapper. Can you make something from scratch for once? It’s as if they want an exit and they’re putting in minimum effort until that materializes.

cyounkins• 12 months ago

Could anyone compare this with Claude Code and aider?

ribeyes• 12 months ago

i'm betting on cursor being the long-term best toolset.

1. with tight integration between cli, background agent, ide, github apps (e.g. bugbot), cursor will accommodate the end-to-end developer experience.

2. as frontier models internalize task routing, there won't be much that feels special about claude code anymore.

3. we should always promote low switching costs between model providers (by supporting independent companies), keeping incentives toward improving the models not ui/data/network lock-in.

ramoz• 12 months ago

Happy to short that bet as I think agentic harnesses will be molded along the RL training of the actual model. Tony + the suit created together. Why Claude in Claude Code became existential for Cursor, why cursor moved quick to go agentic and build up with OpenAI in big header line way here.

Unless they pair up with OpenAI or Meta.

postalcoder• 12 months ago

i’d respectfully bet against this.

cursor and 3rd party tools will, unless they make their own superior foundation model, will always have to fight the higher marginal cost battle. This is particularly bad insofar that they offer fixed pricing subscriptions. That means they’re going to have to employ more context saving tricks which are at odds with better performance.

If the cost economics result in Cursor holding, say, 20% fewer tokens in context versus model-provider coding agents, they will necessarily get worse performance, all things equal.

Unless Cursor offers something dramatically different outside of the basic agentic coding stack it’s hard to see why the market will converge to cursor.

blueblisters2• 12 months ago

we should always promote low switching costs between model providers (by supporting independent companies), keeping incentives toward improving the models not ui/data/network lock-in

You’re underestimating the dollars at play here. With cursor routing all your tokens, they will become a foundation model play sooner than you may think

TechDebtDevin2• 12 months ago

You're allowing them to train on your code?

ankit219• 12 months ago

I think CLI is a good idea for now. Next abstraction seems to be Github PRs where someone (likely me) files an issue/feature, then I click a button, and the agent fixes the issue/feature. Github has talked about something similar, but surely it were a pain to figure out if it was GA and I had access to it given so many different variations they have called gh copilot. (PS: it exists, but not as smooth as I described: https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/how-tos/use-copilot-agent... )

imp0cat2• 12 months ago

You can already have that with Jules. It's quite impressive.

https://jules.google/

kamatour• 12 months ago

So we’re all just waiting for AGENT.md to become the new README, huh? I’m ready when the agents are.

byronic3• 12 months ago

I'm having trouble finding a use for this outside of virtualized unused environments. Why not instead give me a virtual machine that runs this in a confined storage space?

I would _never_ give an LLM access to any disk I own or control if it had anything more than read permissions

extr• 12 months ago

Why not? Have you ever actually used these things? The risk is incredibly low. I run claude code with zero permissions every day for hours. Never a problem.

byronic3• 12 months ago

I have (not an exhaustive list) SSH keys and sensitive repositories hanging out on my filesystem. I don't trust _myself_ with that, let alone an LLM, unless I'm running ollama or similar local nonsense with no net connectivity.

I'm a few degrees removed from an air gapped environment so obviously YMMV. Frankly I find the idea of an LLM writing files or being allowed to access databases or similar cases directly distasteful; I have to review the output anyway and I'll decide what goes to the relevant disk locations / gets run.

alwillis5• 12 months ago

For example, Gemini CLI [1] can use native sandboxing on macOS. It's just a matter of time before every major coding agent will run inside of an operating system's native sandbox/container/jail/VM.

[1] https://github.com/google-gemini/gemini-cli/blob/main/docs/c...

ygouzerh2• 12 months ago

The permissions is quite well defined, by default it will ask you for your approval before every cli command that it will run

leerob2• 12 months ago

(I work at Cursor) We also support running the agent in a VM at cursor.com/agents

daviding• 12 months ago

Can you pick thinking models with this or is that implied?

GPT-5 seems a bit slow so far (in terms of deciding and awareness). I’ve gone from waiting for a compiler, to waiting for assets to build to now waiting for an agent to decide what to do - progress I guess :)

mrcwinn2• 12 months ago

I went from years of vscode to "Cursor is the future" to never using Cursor at all. Claude Code, even with new limits, is just too good. If I were to switch to gpt-5, why wouldn't I just use Codex? I'm struggling to understand the value of what they're presenting.

teaearlgraycold2• 12 months ago

Why is Claude Code better than Cursor?

fastball2• 12 months ago

In my experience, it is much better at tool-calling, which is huge when we're talking about agentic coding. It also seems to do a better job of keeping things cleaning and not going off on tangents for anything that isn't accomplished in one shot.

JyB3• 12 months ago

Because iterating multiple sessions through multiple terminals is obviously more efficient and seamless than interacting thought a scuffed IDE side panel ui.

meowtimemania• 12 months ago

My company has a huge codebase, for me cursor would freeze up / not find relevant files. Claude code seems able to find the right files by itself.

I seem to always have better outcomes with Claude code.

nlh• 12 months ago

What I have found Claude Code is extremely good at is that it makes one change at a time, gives you a chance to read the code its changing, and lets you give feedback in real time and steer it properly. I find the mental load with this method to be MUCH lower than Cursor or any of the other tools which give you two very different options: "Ask" mode which dumps a ton of suggestions on your and then requires semi-manual implementation, or "Agent" mode which dumps a ton of actual changes on you and requires your inspection and feedback and roll-backs, etc.

This may not work for everyone, but as a solo dev who wants to keep a real mental model of my work (and not let it get polluted with AI slop), the Claude Code approach just works really well for me. It's like having a coding partner who can iterate and change direction as you talk, not a junior dev who dumps a pile of code on your plate without discussion.

plantain• 12 months ago

CC just feeds the whole codebase and entire files into the model, no RAG, nothing in the way. It works substantially better because of that, but it's $expensive$.

theshrike79• 12 months ago

Claude Code has some non-LLM magic in it that just makes it better for code in general, despite (or because of) having minimal IDE integration.

LeafItAlone2• 12 months ago

I find the Codex CLI to be the worst of the CLI tools I’ve used (including, but not limited to, Claude Code, Gemini, Aider). There’s something about it that makes it clunky. Haven’t tried Cursor CLI yet though.

gpeal• 12 months ago

We (Codex) shipped a pretty large CLI update today and have many more improvements coming. Give it a try if you haven't.

https://x.com/OpenAIDevs/status/1953559797883891735 (0.19 now)

garychalmers• 12 months ago

The values is that, to use cursor, you don't need anymore to switch your IDE (unless you were already using vscode). You can keep your preferred IDE and run the agent in the terminal. IDE Is for humans, agents need only a terminal for running.

__loam2• 12 months ago

I find it really difficult to take this stuff seriously when the proponents of these tools are constantly flitting from tool to tool. There's tools and paradigms I've used for years at a time. Some things like vim have been used for decades.

This all just feels profoundly immature. You tell us one thing then two months later you're on to the next thing. There's no sense of mastery here.

numbers• 11 months ago

is the multi-file editing as easily understood in the Claude Code cli? or am I missing something? I always felt like Claude Code CLI was OK as a tool yet powered by one of the best AI models. I stuck with Cursor b/c of the multi-file editing, agent mode, etc. I'm very very willing to leave Cursor because they've recently been scummy about their pricing changes.

AdieuToLogic• 12 months ago

When I saw this, the question which immediately came to mind was:

  Who would turn loose arbitrary commands (content)
  generated by an LLM onto their filesystem?

Then I saw the installation instructions, which are:

  curl https://cursor.com/install -fsS | bash

And it made sense.

Only those comfortable with installing software by downloading shell commands from an arbitrary remote web site and immediately executing them would use it.

So what then is the risk of running arbitrary file system modifications generated from a program installed via arbitrary shell commands? None more than what was accepted in order to install it.

Both are opaque, unreviewed, and susceptible to various well known attacks (such as a supply chain attack[0]).

0 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_chain_attack

adhamsalama• 12 months ago

I couldn't even install Cursor on Ubuntu . The issue still exists. Why didn't they ask the AI to fix it?

teaearlgraycold2• 12 months ago

I’m mostly going to use this as a convenient way to run ffmpeg. Previously I’d need to open Cursor and ask for commands in the terminal there.

ayerajath• 12 months ago

has to be, given the hype surrounding claude code, a few of them are using claude code just cause it's terminal based.

eagerpace• 12 months ago

I really like the IDE. It makes enough mistakes that I need to be constantly testing and catching little errors. I’ll interrupt the flow often when it’s going down a path I don’t want it to. When using Codex, for example, it’s doing too much in the background that is harder to correct afterwards. Am I doing this wrong?

treve• 12 months ago

People have preferred either the terminal or chunky IDEs for decades. Neither are wrong.

_betty_2• 12 months ago

I like that I can use the ide while a cli is working, keep an eye on git changes and interrupt where needed.

I find in ide they like opening documents/changing tabs too much and it means j can't do other things.

snthpy• 12 months ago

What differentiates the CLI tools at this point and makes you prefer one over the other?

opencode and Crush can use any model, so apart from a nicer visual experience, are there any aspects that actually make you more productive in one vs the other?

g42gregory2• 12 months ago

Boris Cherny was a (main?) creator of Claude Code at Anthropic. He moved over to Cursor about a month ago. I hope Cursor CLI is an Claude Code Agent port to the Cursor. Hopefully, the code quality would be comparable, modulo Cursor's abridged model access. We will know shortly.

mliker• 12 months ago

He actually returned to Anthropic shortly after joining Cursor

g42gregory2• 12 months ago

Interesting. I did not know that.

sylware• 12 months ago

How do you make work those terminal AI prompts?

Are those for the anonymous accesses of the AI prompts?

If those are for the authenticated AI prompts, how to create a "non-anonymous" account with a noscript/basic (x)html browsers (not to mention I am self-hosted without paying the DNS mafia, namely my emails are with ip literals, ofc I prefer IPv6).

ksynwa2• 12 months ago

Why are all these coding agents being created as terminal applications? Feels like the kind of thing that the tech industry would publish as an electron app.

andai• 12 months ago

Cursor minus CLI is already that.

daliusd2• 12 months ago

Because you can script terminal app (ideally, at least you can do that with opencode.ai) and that opens some amazing opportunities.

ksynwa2• 12 months ago

How and why would one script things like this? I thought the process was basically just talking to the agent and telling it what you want to do and reviewing the changes before they are committed.

easeout• 12 months ago

Shell commands and files on disk are the classic narrow waist, and this type of tool, exemplified by Claude Code, locates a coding agent down in that ecosystem.

Why shouldn't you be able to use the abilities of this tool as a batch command, connected with all your other basic tools, in addition to interactive sessions?

Cursor's chat being locked in an IDE sidebar has felt like driving with a trailer attached. For some tasks the editor is secondary or unnecessary, and as a papered-over VS Code fork, Cursor has a lot of warts that you just had to accept. Now you can just use your favorite editor.

Companies make apps but want to be platforms, so they try to put everything in one app and help you forget about everything else. VS Code and Figma, for example, make their own extension ecosystems rather than connecting outward, because it makes them platforms-as-apps and harder to leave. But a desktop task workflow spans many apps and windows. You compose it yourself to your needs. We are computer users more than app users.

To me as a computer user, a tool that's compact and has compatible outward extension points feels good.

ukblewis• 12 months ago

What is the benefit of this over Codex CLI?

mrcwinn2• 12 months ago

It is definitely to Cursor's benefit.

doppelgunner• 12 months ago

It is good, but I still prefer thir code editor, which is perfect for building applications such as my new startup at https://vipli.st/

k4rli• 12 months ago

Daily self-promotion isn't really for HN, is it?

AI generated startup + AI generated blog (https://www.nxgntools.com/) doesn't have much to do with HN

welder• 12 months ago

Disappointed it didn't launch with Hooks. [0] I know this is a Beta launch, but I thought they would learn from Claude and copy. Hooks enable plugins, like https://wakatime.com/claude-code

[0] https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/claude-code/hooks

submeta• 12 months ago

Excited to see competition. The UX is not as polished as Claude Code though. For instance, missing a command to fire shell commands (in CC done via `! {commmand}`. And has less commands overall. But will catch up I hope.

markbissell• 12 months ago

Despite it saying that it supports MCP tools, I haven't found that the CLI is actually an MCP client

raicem• 12 months ago

They are realling moving away fromt he VSCode-forked editor as their business model. Makes sense.

Cursor CLI

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