Rob Reiner has died

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/rob-reiner-dead-harry-met-sally-princess-bride-all-in-family-1236450387/

by RickJWagner • 7 months ago

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toomuchtodo• 7 months ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Reiner

delichon• 7 months ago

He is still Archie Bunker's annoying son in law to me. I hear he did some interesting things since then though.

My best friend died in a family murder like this. A decade later the wounds of the survivors haven't healed.

At least Carl didn't live to suffer this.

seg_lol• 7 months ago

Mel Brooks is gonna be sad.

benzible5• 7 months ago

I had the same thought almost immediately about being thankful that Carl Reiner wasn't around to see this.

Related, I love how close Mel and Carl were until the end: https://www.theguardian.com/global/2020/feb/20/love-and-free...

hydrogen7800• 7 months ago

Before I realized that his father Carl died a few years ago, I wondered how he was dealing with this.

BLKNSLVR• 7 months ago

Three great movies that he directed that everyone around my age would be relatively intimately familiar with: This Is Spinal Tap, The Princess Bride and When Harry Met Sally

Police are treating the deaths as apparent homicides. According to the L.A. Times, authorities have questioned a member of Reiner’s family in connection with the death. As of Sunday night, the LAPD have not officially identified a suspect, but Rolling Stone has confirmed that Reiner’s son, Nick, was involved in the homicide. A source confirmed to Rolling Stone that the couple’s daughter, Romy, found her parents’ bodies.

Alternative source:

Senior law enforcement officials report that both had stab wounds

Tragic.

monero-xmr• 7 months ago

Stand By Me as well

jmkni• 7 months ago

Also Misery

benzible5• 7 months ago

Reportedly killed by their son, who had struggled with addiction: https://people.com/rob-reiner-wife-michele-were-killed-by-so...

In a 2016 interview with PEOPLE, Nick spoke about his years-long struggle with drug addiction, which began in his early teens and eventually left him living on the streets. He said he cycled in and out of rehab beginning around age 15, but as his addiction escalated, he drifted farther from home and spent significant stretches homeless in multiple states.

Rob Reiner directed a movie from a semi-autobiographical script his son co-wrote a few years ago. Hard to imagine many things worse than going through the pain of having a kid who seemed lost, getting him back, and then whatever must have been going on more recently that apparently led to this.

enduser• 7 months ago

So far AFAIK this claim isn’t repeated by any reputable publishers. E.g. Associated Press and LA Times both published 2.5 hours after PEOPLE and did not make this claim.

benzible5• 7 months ago

Here's another independent report: https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/rob-rei...

Also, People is credible for this type of reporting. They're owned by a major company, IAC, and they don't have a history of reckless reporting or shady practices like catch-and-kill a la the National Enquirer. They likely just have sources that other news outlets don't.

nephihaha6• 7 months ago

The claim is that there was no sign of forced entry, implying whoever did it was already in the home.

netsharc2• 7 months ago

Speaking of media, I found it really useless that before the names were published, the majority of news articles just said "78 and 68 year old persons found dead [RIP] at Rob Reiner's home", but I had to search for his and his wife's age to correlate that it's him and his wife. I think only 1 news article said, "authorities have not said the names, but those are the ages of Rob Reiner and his wife".

schmuckonwheels• 7 months ago

In a remarkable coincidence, the Reiners' son has just been booked on suspicion of murder:

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/investigations/director-rob-re...

Maybe the cops were reading People in between scarfing down donuts and chain-smoking Marlboros.

lab14• 7 months ago

(tangent) for those of us who had close experiences with addiction in our families, it's so obvious why "give them money" or "give them homes to live in" isn't a solution to homelesness. A close family member owned 3 properties and still was living in the streets by choice because of his addiction which evolved into a full blown paranoid schizophrenia. He almost lost it all but he was forcefully commited into a mental institution and rehab saved his life.

mbauman• 7 months ago

"by choice because of"

Goodness, that doesn't look like a choice to me.

mistrial9• 7 months ago

sorry for your situation but that description is inconsistent without medical insight

perhaps more importantly, ascribing legal treatment for a class of people ("homeless") based on this particular case is also unwise, at the least

amanaplanacanal2• 7 months ago

Just realize your personal experience isn't generalizable. Surveys I've seen report that about a third of homeless have drug problems, which means that the other two thirds may very well benefit from "give them homes to live in".

UltraSane• 7 months ago

100 years ago people like Rob Reiner's drug addict son would probably have been in an insane asylum.

belviewreview• 7 months ago

So you claim to know for certain that it virtually never happens that someone winds up homeless for financial reasons, like their rent got raised or they lost their job and couldn't find one that paid enough for the prevailing rents.

Perhaps you would be so kind as to explain how you determined this. Did you for instance survey homeless people in a number of US cities? Or perhaps you used some other method.

raffael_de2• 7 months ago

Hard to imagine many things worse than going through the pain of having a kid who seemed lost, getting him back, and then whatever must have been going on more recently that apparently led to this

Also worth considering that Rob Reiner might have played his part in the roots of Nick's troubles ... after all Rob was his father and the drug problems started when he was still a child.

pstuart2• 7 months ago

Are you a parent? Do you understand the challenges of parenting that includes the fact that "controlling" your child is ultimately impossible?

Yes, you can be attentive and engaged, ensure they're mentored and guided, are given discipline and instruction, etc. But they're still autonomous units that are going to do what the fuck they want to do.

Of course there are cases of abuse that can damage a child but that should not be a base assumption in this case (his other children appear to be fine).

auggierose• 7 months ago

Jesus Christ. "When Harry met Sally" is easily the best romcom of all times.

nephihaha6• 7 months ago

Definitely up there. "Misery" is one of the best Stephen King adaptations and "Spinal Tap" is the greatgranddaddy of stuff like Parks and Recreation and the Office.

_alaya• 7 months ago

Completely tragic. Rob Reiner's movies brought so much good into people's lives. The Princess Bride still remains a favorite. Today is a very sad and inconceivable end.

locusofself• 7 months ago

So sad. To me, he's primarily the "Spinal Tap" guy, but he did so much more.

nephihaha6• 7 months ago

True, Marti di Bergi and all that. But he made so many other popular films.

commandlinefan• 7 months ago

I remember him as Meathead, and my 22-year-old son remembers him as the dad from Wolf of Wall Street. It's really amazing how many generations his work spans.

mellosouls2• 7 months ago

I'd forgotten what an unusually strong and culturally-resonant line of movies the man had without (I think) the popular acclaim you might associate with them, like a low-profile Spielberg.

Spinal Tap

The Princess Bride

When Harry Met Sally

Sleepless in Seattle

Stand By Me

etc

A great loss, RIP

fatbird• 7 months ago

His last film was Spinal Tap II. I think if you could tell him that Spinal Tap would bookend his life, he'd be tickled by that.

nephihaha6• 7 months ago

The second installment isn't good... But he has more than enough decent work to be remembered by.

js2• 7 months ago

I'm just commenting to mention The Sure Thing, a delightful and endearing romcom with John Cusack and Daphne Zuniga, with small parts by Anthony Edwards, Nicollette Sheridan, and Tim Robbins.

exasperaited4• 7 months ago

This is indeed a delightful film. I tend to forget that Nicollette Sheridan was the titular character. It’s unusual (but perhaps explains some of Reiner’s interest, I wonder) that this film has an identifiable, personified McGuffin.

jeffwass2• 7 months ago

He was also brilliant as Michael “Meathead” Stivik in the phenomenal TV series “All in the Family”.

Amazing how many classics he worked on throughout his career.

DonHopkins4• 7 months ago

Throughout his entire career I have always thought "Meathead has done so well for himself! He really showed Archie."

Talking about Rob Reiner:

https://interviews.televisionacademy.com/people/rob-reiner?c...

https://interviews.televisionacademy.com/interviews/rob-rein...

Rob Reiner: The 60 Minutes Interview (2 months ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLeBquj8LKI

nobodyandproud• 7 months ago

I only ever watched the re-runs (1980s). Still, somehow I never made the connection that “meathead” was Rob Reiner.

bambax• 7 months ago

A Few Good Men is also a great movie IMHO.

And he was quite excellent in The Wolf of Wall Street (playing I think Leonardo's father?)

Very sad development.

losvedir• 7 months ago

Oh wow he did A Few Good Men, too? These comments are just crazy in how many influential movies he made to me, without me realizing they were by him. And how are you the first to mention AFGM? That's the best of the bunch!

CaptWillard• 7 months ago

Amen. I can appreciate films. Reiner made Movies. Great movies.

Spielberg is an apt comparison.

n1b0m• 7 months ago

Misery is another classic

stack_framer4• 7 months ago

Wow, I didn't know he directed Misery! Great film.

listless• 7 months ago

I had the same thought when I looked up his filmography - highly underrated. No idea he made all those classics.

piekvorst• 7 months ago

Thanks for The Princess Bride and Sleepless in Seattle. Rest in peace.

llbbdd• 7 months ago

Rest in peace. "The Princess Bride" is a really fun, unique and beautiful piece of art that my wife and I revisit all the time. Nobody deserves to go like this and he'll be missed.

jeffwass2• 7 months ago

Same. It’s a wonderful movie that can be thoroughly enjoyed by young and old alike!

DonHopkins4• 7 months ago

It's inconceivable how good that movie is.

sillyfluke• 7 months ago

Incidentally, just the other day I thought a scene in a recent Pluribus episode was echoing it.

fullstop• 7 months ago

We were thinking the same thing! ;-)

phantasmish• 7 months ago

The book’s outstanding and different enough to be worth reading even (especially?) if you’ve seen the movie a hundred times.

It’s got a framing and woven-in narrative of the author stand-in tracking down this book his dad read him, discovering it was mostly awful, dry crap, and editing it down (and translating it) to a “the good parts” version like his dad read to him. The (kinda pathetic and melancholy) adult story going on is interesting to an adult reader, and… creates the opportunity to read the actual novel with a “the good parts” approach when reading it to a kid (this has to have been on purpose, it works great).

The author (William Goldman) was a screenwriter so the action scenes are snappy and great and the dialogue tight, but he also filled the book with jokes that only work in print, so you won’t just be getting a repeat of the movie on the humor side (though many of those jokes are in it, too).

Some sequences are greatly expanded and especially notable are large and effective back-story chapters for Fezzick and Inigo.

timeforcomputer• 7 months ago

I really enjoyed Fezzick and Inigo's chapters. And the Zoo of Death! As I remember, the framing narrative was quite different, something about a screenwriter with some glaring personal issues IIRC. Worth reading if you love the movie, definitely.

VikingCoder• 7 months ago

In college, we printed out the screenplay, and picked parts, and read it together. It was tremendous fun. Highly recommended.

rashkov• 7 months ago

You might enjoy the pandemic-era Princess Bride Home Movie, which Rob Reiner and his father Carl Reiner had a scene in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29s1yU3nGkQ

It's a crowdsourced home-movie version produced by dozens of actors in the midst of pandemic lockdown, recording on their phones and using home made props. The actors rotate through the individual roles so you get a real range of performances. I found it delightful.

Worth checking out the opening scene to get a sense of it

butterlettuce• 7 months ago

“What da fu*k you sayin? Jordan, are you f*ckin’ high?!”

RIP

kleiba• 7 months ago

Something is wrong with your keyboard.

pmarreck• 7 months ago

It's a Wolf of Wall Street quote.

jedberg• 7 months ago

FWIW, if you have HBOMax, you can watch what is now, sadly, his final film, Spinal Tap 2. It just arrived there yesterday.

(They also just got the original if you want to watch it again)

Lio• 7 months ago

This is very sad news.

No one else has mentioned it but among all his other great performances his hair-trigger angry dad in Wolf of Wall Street is hilarious.

I think being able to be both funny in his anger but also a bit intimidating and then go to being a warm father figure is something he would not have been able to portray without genuine charisma.

nephihaha6• 7 months ago

Terrible. I enjoyed many of his films, and count Spinal Tap, Misery and Stand by Me among my favourites. Rest in Peace!

donatj• 7 months ago

Oh dang. Last night before falling asleep my wife told me "some guy from Spinal Tap died" while scrolling on her phone. Didn't think much of it.

Wake up and first thing I do is read this...

Rob Reiner? Really? What a terrible shame. What a loss. His films and even his time on All in the Family really helped shape the cultural landscape.

Nothing had as large an impact on my sense of humor growing up as This is Spinal Tap. Just thinking about the movie now I chuckle to myself. Most of his other films are certified classics.

He will be greatly missed.

nephihaha6• 7 months ago

Spinal Tap is a great film, but he did so much more.

alsetmusic• 7 months ago

Well that's just terrible. I went to a trade school for learning audio engineering. One of the instructors always used a day to show "Spinal Tap" to his class. I didn't realize it was fiction for about the first 40m. The guy made some great films.

oneeyedpigeon2• 7 months ago

I didn't realize it was fiction

Amusingly, neither did Liam Gallagher until he was 30:

https://www.loudersound.com/features/oasis-liam-gallagher-sp...

spacechild12• 7 months ago

This story was subsequently related to Harry Shearer aka Derek Smalls, who was most amused.
"It's fair enough," he responded. "I was under the impression for some time that Oasis was a real band."

I'm dying!

cptnapalm• 7 months ago

Having been in a metal band and known guys that toured, I can assure you that This is Spinal Tap is a real life depiction of being in a metal band.

lizknope• 7 months ago

I just watched Spinal Tap 2 last week and enjoyed it.

RIP Rob and Michelle.

linsomniac2• 7 months ago

I had really high hopes but low expectations for Tap 2, just because it can be really tricky to follow up on a cult classic without totally stepping in it. I drove way out to see it on IMAX, and the entire family loved it.

May Reiner, as they say, Tap into the afterlife!

mixmastamyk• 7 months ago

What is the benefit of seeing a regular film on an imax screen? Just bigger (too big?), or do they have taller footage?

spacechild12• 7 months ago

RIP! What a terrible way to go...

anshumankmr2• 7 months ago

I only knew him from directing Harry Met Sally and Wolf of Wall street where almost all of his scenes are hillarious, especially the one where he burst into the room abusing DiCaprio and his gang over expenses.

RIP.

khannn• 7 months ago

He directed The Princess Bride, This Is Spinal Tap, When Harry Met Sally, A Few Good Men, and Misery. Didn't know this, but he directed a sequel to This Is Spinal Tap.

anshumankmr2• 7 months ago

Yes,I know BUT of his personal works, those two remain the only ones I have seen. And also A Few Good Men (I did not know it was one of his works till now)

mvkel6• 7 months ago

As an aside, it's been fascinating reading the comments here about news media.

People want journalists to publish quickly AND only publish what’s fully verified.

They want anonymous sources named "in the spirit of truth," without grappling with the reality that doing so would instantly dry up anyone risking their job, or worse, to provide information.

They expect journalists to release raw information as soon as they have it, while simultaneously acting as perfect filters; never amplifying rumors, or being wrong, even as new facts emerge.

They want neutrality, except when neutrality conflicts with their priors.

It's no wonder that morale among journalists is at an all-time low. Is any other profession held to such an impossible standard?

HelloMcFly• 7 months ago

In my experience (dramatized):

Teachers: parents expects teachers to deliver personalized instruction to a classroom of 30+ while adhering to standardized testing targets. They are expected to act as surrogate parents yet threatened with lawsuits and suspensions when they attempt to enforce discipline. They are asked to spend their own money on supplies, but I think we've had enough levies to raise funds for our local district, haven't we? They are treated as lazy, agenda-driven agents by their community neighbors. They get the summers off, so I think I've heard enough about their "burnout".

Doctors: patients demand certainty from a science based on probability. They expect empathetic listening but it must come within the fifteen-minute slots insurance and healthcare network financial officers dictate. Any story of a missed diagnosis is evidence of idiocy or contempt. Patients want pharmaceutical fixes for decades of poor lifestyle choices without side effects or changes to habits. They're all just paid for by the pharmaceutical industry anyway, so better if they just give me the prescription I saw a TV ad about. And why won't they just do what ChatGPT said they should do, anyway? Besides, they're all rich, right?

lanthade• 7 months ago

Also doctors: Patients want schedules to run on-time but come in with a laundry list of concerns and will expect to be carefully listened to for 30 minutes during their 20 minute appointment. Medical systems insist on a 20 minute appointment even for complex cases or instances where translators are needed. Patients are non-compliant with discharge instructions and then get re-admitted which penalizes the MDs who discharged yet insurance pushes hospitals to discharge ASAP. I could go on and on...

giancarlostoro4• 7 months ago

They want anonymous sources named "in the spirit of truth," without grappling with the reality that doing so would instantly dry up anyone risking their job, or worse, to provide information.

There's some cases where I rather someone put their name up or I don't want to hear it, the only exception is give me some damning proof? Give me something that qualifies your anonymous remarks or its not worth anything to me, its just he said she said.

Regarding this specifially, I don't care enough, I am more curious about the legal case and how it will play out though.

scelerat• 7 months ago

Give me something that qualifies your anonymous remarks or its not worth anything to me, its just he said she said.

This is where journalistic reputation comes in. Do you trust the journalistic entity providing the story? Do they have a history of being correct? Has information from anonymous sources in other stories proven to be true?

ChrisMarshallNY2• 7 months ago

I was involved in writing a history book of an organization, and we used what was termed "journalistic integrity."

We couldn't put something into the book, unless it was corroborated by three separate sources (this was before the current situation, where you will get a dozen different sources that basically all come from the same place).

The onus was on us; not the people we interviewed. We were responsible for not publishing random nonsense.

BadCookie• 7 months ago

And the biggest problem of all: They expect it to be free.

dfee• 7 months ago

Even when I pay, I’m still bombarded with ads.

And you’re never going to get all the angles from a single source. So short of paying a couple thousand dollars, and still getting ads, many people become cheap in exchange for the cheap experience pushed on them.

y-curious• 7 months ago

I expect it to be free when the ad revenues are huge and the titles are “you WON’T believe what Elon said on Xitter!” clickbait.

This is why substack exists

djeastm• 7 months ago

Is any of this really any different than any other time in history, though?

dlisboa• 7 months ago

Yes, absolutely. Journalism was in a much better standing a few decades ago.

teddy-smith2• 7 months ago

yeah I was going to say. Journalism has always been hated by those in power and by proxy their followers.

Few profession I have more respect for than journalists and police.

Most of them are trying to fight evil and make society better and are hated for it.

mvkel6• 7 months ago

Great point, and no! Same with "truth." What is it? History is written by the victor.

justin664• 7 months ago

It's no wonder that morale among journalists is at an all-time low. Is any other profession held to such an impossible standard?

Morale is not low amongst journalists because the job is tough, it's low because they're being fired all over the place, pay has decreased, and corporatism is making the whole thing pretty mediocre.

elicash• 7 months ago

I think there some jobs where community acknowledgment of "oh wow you do THAT job, thank you" can make up for lower pay. I think in states that have low teacher pay, for example, many think it's worth it so long as it comes with acknowledgment of the hard work and dedication -- which, of course, it often doesn't.

The counter-argument is probably that if it were truly acknowledged, then the pay itself would be higher. But I don't think it's the case that the average person in Florida thinks less of teachers than someone in New York. (I'm including cost of living adjustments in making this comparison btw.)

I don't disagree with the items you lay out, and maybe the ones you list are most important. But I do think "respect" belongs on the list, too.

danielmarkbruce8• 7 months ago

"corporatism" - come on now. The reason why news was decent and the job was decent for a good amount of time was that newspapers were a natural monopoly. Fat, juicy profits and "owned" cities meant the owners could just say "I don't really care, just print approximately the truth and don't alienate readers across the broad spectrum that we have".... "oh, and I guess pay the journalists decently too, because I'm swimming in money"

amanaplanacanal2• 7 months ago

Doing the hard work can't compete with podcasters/entertainers "just asking questions". We're in a pretty sad state right now.

JKCalhoun• 7 months ago

"Is any other profession held to such an impossible standard?"

Teachers, but point taken.

LanceH• 7 months ago

Referees, who are seemingly out to make both sides lose.

kridsdale3• 7 months ago

Doctors.

no_wizard• 7 months ago

As far as the anonymous sourcing goes, that has to do with the exposed issues that some news outlets simply claim to have “sources” and when exposed they either don’t or they aren’t credible.

There is a real trust problem Journalism will need to overcome and some of it is self inflicted

JumpCrisscross2• 7 months ago

the exposed issues that some news outlets simply claim to have “sources” and when exposed they either don’t or they aren’t credible

Source?

exasperaited4• 7 months ago

Fake sources (outside the gossip and celebrity columns and a couple of cheap tabloids in any given country) is essentially a non-issue even now.

“non-credible” anonymous sources: that’s in the eye of the beholder, I guess. It is in any government’s interest to downplay the authority of any off-the-record leak source, but political parties that rail the hardest against anonymous sources generally have more to hide, and generally those stories prove substantively true in the long run.

It is still rare for any newspaper to predicate a story on a single uncorroborated anonymous source.

If you have examples it would be interesting.

johnwheeler2• 7 months ago

That's their problem. They're trying to give people what they want instead of being objective. They're supposed to be objective. What's that you say? Their objectivity is not rewarded? Well, neither is this.

signforsign• 7 months ago

Journalistic ethics speaks about impartiality, not objectivity, and that has always brought me comfort. I'm dismayed by young uns talking about a joke being objectively funny, or one movie in a series being objectively better than another. It is an Anti-literate trend.

tracker1• 7 months ago

I want journalists to try to answer the 6 W's and make an effort to represent the stated positions of all parties mentioned. At least with that effort, you can have at least a chance at seeing what bias is in play. Most "journalism" fails on this metric by a wide margin.

mhurron• 7 months ago

Is any other profession held to such an impossible standard?

Almost all, to varying degrees, with the expectation increasing the more you deal with people that are outside that field. People seriously underestimate the challenges and difficulties of things they have little experience with while overestimating their ability to do it.

'How hard can it be to ask someone who knows what's going on and write that anyway?'

xnx• 7 months ago

And they want it for free

CoastalCoder• 7 months ago

Are you sure that a lot of individuals hold those contradictory positions?

Or do the contradictions only exist across multiple persons?

(Tangent: anyone know if there's a term for this fallacy? I.e., claiming that an attribute exists for some/all of a group's members, when in fact that attribute only applies to the collective itself?)

jjk166• 7 months ago

People want journalists to publish quickly AND only publish what’s fully verified.

Not contradictory. People want information to be verified quickly. That's the job. The person who can do it the fastest gets the scoop. Publishing unverified stuff isn't doing the job faster, it's not doing the job. You can get away with cheating for a bit, as you can probably guess what's going to wind up getting verified most of the time, but that's all the more reason to punish cheaters when they eventually are caught.

And even then, publishing rumors and speculation are fine so long as they are clearly noted as such. It is only when unverified statements are treated as facts that there is a problem.

They want anonymous sources named "in the spirit of truth," without grappling with the reality that doing so would instantly dry up anyone risking their job, or worse, to provide information.

You're not supposed to cite an anonymous source saying there are bodies buried; you're supposed to learn where the bodies are buried from the anonymous sources and then show the bodies as evidence. There is no need for an appeal to authority when you have proof. If a story relies on cited sources they should be named, and if no one is willing to go on the record then you shouldn't be relying on cited sources.

Also we should be pushing for strong whistleblower protections, especially reporting when whistleblowers are retaliated against.

They expect journalists to release raw information as soon as they have it, while simultaneously acting as perfect filters

Who is asking for either raw data streams or that the news act as filters? People expect evidence (ie things that can be verified) and analysis (ie context for the evidence presented). Omitting unreliable evidence is fine, but people complain when the standard for reliable evidence changes without good reason.

never amplifying rumors, or being wrong, even as new facts emerge.

If you publish actual facts, they will remain facts no matter what new facts emerge. Truth never contradicts truth, it only expands the story. It is perfectly fine to have incomplete facts, you better have a damn good reason if you have false facts.

They want neutrality, except when neutrality conflicts with their priors.

No one wants neutrality, they want integrity. You can enthusiastically report that your side is right any day of the week so long as you're also willing to report when they're wrong. It's when evidence is chosen to fit the narrative rather than the narrative developed around the evidence that there's a problem.

It's no wonder that morale among journalists is at an all-time low.

Morale should be low in an industry driven to compromise it's standards and race to the bottom, and the worst offenders are the most highly rewarded. This should be an impetus for change.

ilamont• 7 months ago

There’s a really good interview with Rob Reiner on Fresh Air, recorded as Spinal Tap 2 was being released a few months back. He talks all about the many movies he’s worked on as well as growing up in the household of a comedian. Well worth 45 minutes of your time:

https://www.npr.org/programs/fresh-air/g-s1-87790/fresh-air-...

teddy-smith2• 7 months ago

Journalism has always been hated by those in power and by proxy their followers.

It's arguable thats a sign that they're doing a good job.

Few profession I have more respect for than journalists and police.

Most of them are trying to fight evil and make society better and are disliked for it.

They are a gritty grizzled bunch.

indoordin0saur3• 7 months ago

Sometimes journalists (or "journalists") are the ones in power or they are controlled by those in power

hiccuphippo• 7 months ago

I'd argue once it is controlled by those in power it stops being called journalism and becomes propaganda.

consumer4515• 7 months ago

I have a hard time thinking of any such example.

Certainly their editors and the publisher/owner, but journalists themselves?

e40• 7 months ago

Few profession I have more respect for than journalists and police.

I’m with you on journalists, but the police have so many bad apples that I think the profession itself attracts the wrong kind of people.

thx4explaining• 7 months ago

I'd like to honor Rob Reiner and This is Spinal Tap by mentioning my work and other peoples' successful projects:

Jimmy Fallon, manager, and band Stillwater in the film "Almost Famous".

Ari Gold in Entourage

And Wayne's World, I would have to say.

PaulDavisThe1st• 7 months ago

I'm not going to link to it, but the POTUS posted overnight about this, and even by the standards of that particular social media account, it was probably a new low. Someone in another forum I read regularly said of it "I'm going to show this to my kids to help teach them what the word sociopath means". It's not even the usual "politicizing a tragedy", just the complete inhumanity and self-centeredness on display. Look it up yourself if you want, but bring a bag.

Applejinx• 7 months ago

I don't take from it personality judgements, so much as it makes me want to look into how Reiner was trying to develop a series called 'The Spy and the Asset' on how Putin and Trump met and began working together.

That tracks for me, so Trump has personal reasons for behaving the way he does, though arguably self-preservation would induce him to not carry on the way he has done. But then he cannot be quiet about things he's guilty of, so I can't see his behavior as anything other than having a motive for just what's happened. I can't imagine he would take Rob's proposed series with equinamity: I'd love to know what Rob knew.

kemayo• 7 months ago

To elaborate a bit for those who don't want to go read that sort of thing: Trump said Reiner was killed because he made people so angry by being opposed to Trump. There were a bunch of asides about Reiner's talent and mental state, and it closed with trying to brag about (fictional) administration accomplishments.

Trump's a piece of work, all right.

blipvert• 7 months ago

Trump's a piece of work, all right.

I’ve not seen it spelled like that that before.

deeg• 7 months ago

RIP Rob Reiner. The Princess Bride is one of my all-time favorite movies. I have a theory (born out by experience) that most American-born software engineers can quote at least one line from TBL. I often use it as an opener with new hires.

Death can not stop true love. It can only delay it for a while.

hypeatei• 7 months ago

According to POTUS, he died because of Trump Derangement Syndrome[0]. Very classy and totally normal behavior from our highest office.

0: https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/1157241415688...

antod• 7 months ago

TDSDS seems more of a real thing than TDS. The intellectual equivalent of "I know you are, but what am I?"

tim333• 7 months ago

POTUS seems a little deranged there.

ubiquitysc• 7 months ago

A little?

UniverseHacker3• 7 months ago

The mad king is a common literary trope, I guess for good reason.

consumer4515• 7 months ago

Out of all the things, this appears to be a significant turning point:

https://old.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/1pnccia/trump...

https://old.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/1pn8nny/rob_r...

These are currently at the top of that sub. The comments are very encouraging.

I would like to think that if Mr. Reiner saw that his death actually brought the country together, he would smile.

ivape3• 7 months ago

If you think about it, if you count 2015 campaign, Trump has been campaigning or in office for 10 years, with 3 more to go. That’s thirteen. fucking. years.

No man is that interesting. This person’s “opinion” on the world has just been utterly exhausting.

A decade of a reign like that caused damage.

_vqpz2• 7 months ago

The Conservative subreddit is not at all indicative of the average conservative American's opinion. Actual conservatives participate in other forums.

Timon3• 7 months ago

I've thought the same multiple times over the last few years. I can't remember all the events, but it was at least four separate times, most notably with January 6th. Every time it went like this:

1. Users on /r/conservative (& other conservative forums) show a surprisingly negative reaction to something done by the GOP

2. Over the next few days, their media starts repeating individual social media responses that seem to find agreement. They don't have to make sense, they just have to terminate the thought.

3. In the communities more and more voices spread those same responses while shouting down reasonable commenters from 1., declaring them "non-MAGA" or "RINOs"

4. After a few days/weeks, all opposing voices have been drowned out, and their moderation teams delete any posts that could sway their opinion/goes against the current.

comfysocks• 7 months ago

A bit hypocritical for him to say that after his reaction to people commenting on Charlie Kirk’s murder.

sxzygz• 7 months ago

Dear Mr. Reiner,

Thank you for giving me Flipped. May you rest deeply now.

jeffwask• 7 months ago

My heart breaks for Romy having to find her parents like that. She seemed to be a sweet kid who idolized her dad on Twitter.

Rob Reiner has died

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