Modern Walkmans

166 141 8 months ago

fsckboy• 8 months ago

wow, back in the day, well after the cassette walkman, the FM walkman was actually a BIG DEAL! they didn't even make a 2-in-1, not even an AM/FM! i loved <3 mine

https://www.radiomuseum.org/images/radio/sony_tokyo/fm_walkm...

(i wasn't against cassette walkmans, but i was against carrying enough tapes to mimic the variety of music that they played on the radio)

nickt• 8 months ago

It’s amazing to see this. How good are the transports in these modern units? I seem to remember when cassettes died the first time, the whole ecosystem went away, from Chrome Dioxide cassettes to good quality transports, which took a long time to get right. How do these compare to a good quality unit from the 80’s and 90’s?

komali2• 8 months ago

Is transport the bit that reels the tapes? I watched a YouTube video recently about these that said that it seems all these modern ones are using basically the same mechanism from a PRC factory, and thus the minimum size is quite large.

Since Sony doesn't manufacture their phenomenally small mechanisms anymore, the era of the tape sized tape player is gone unless someone invests millions in r&d and setting up manufacturing.

Also in terms of quality: fine, but the video found better quality from vintage units he had cleaned up.

I don't have the video saved sorry.

ares6232• 8 months ago

The video is probably from the “techmoan” channel. Very good content.

ares6232• 8 months ago

They’re not very good. As the other comment said, they all use the same mechanism. It gets the job done, but that also means the “premium” models are rip offs. Basically lipstick on a pig, so to speak.

Sadly I don’t see new mechanisms appearing anytime soon. But there is still hope. There have been new film cameras with modern innards recently released.

encom• 8 months ago

Don't these all use the same crappy internals, because there's only one company left making those, to satisfy the remaining hipster crowd?

mingus88• 8 months ago

I was in the market for my kid who is going through a hipster phase

A review of one unit said that it didn’t honor the cutout tab so if you accidentally pressed record with any tape you would dub over your music

I shopped for a while and came to the conclusion that these are mostly kitsch.

zoklet-enjoyer• 8 months ago

From what I've heard, that seems to be the case. I suppose that's part of why legit Walkmans are going for so much now. I love cassettes and it would be cool to have a good portable tape player again, but it really can't compete with my phone. Unless we go back to carrying around all the individual things a phone can do. It's tempting but just not as convenient.

I still play around with tapes at home. I have a modded player with speed controls, a couple of decent tape decks, and a 4 track recorder. I have a couple of loop tapes to play around with too. But yeah, as a portable music format, not sure I want to go back to that.

kylec• 8 months ago

Yes, pretty much:

https://www.theverge.com/24295971/we-are-rewind-fiio-cassett...

Nursie2• 8 months ago

Other than the bluetooth capability - are modern walkmans as good as they were at the peak of portable tape use?

I had one of these in black - https://walkman.land/panasonic/rq-s30

Gorgeous little machine, not much bigger than a cassette in its box, all metal. It felt about as well designed and built as apple stuff does now. It wasn't long after that we got minidiscs (and we know how that went), and then mp3 players conquered the world.

worthless-trash• 8 months ago

Tbh, i loved my minidisc player, robust and shock resistant (I guess it buffered ?) rewritable media. Compared to even CD players it was ahead of the game.

Nursie2• 8 months ago

Mine was great too, but it just never took off quite the same, maybe because of price. 'originals' were expensive, and so were recordable discs.

There was also (IIRC) built-in DRM, so you could record digitally from a CD or read-only minidisc to a writeable minidisc, but not then from writeable minidisc->minidisc. Even recording from analogue to minidisc resulted in something that would be restricted.

But this is all just rehashing things that have been talked about many times over the intervening years. They were great, but they never quite made it and then mp3 ate its lunch.

StrangeSound2• 8 months ago

There was a good video on YouTube that talked about the Walkman resurgence, and why they're so large these days. Almost all of these walkmans are using the same internal mechanism because there was only one place to source them. I don't know if that's still the case now.

https://youtu.be/2DWtkSVNvTg

GeekyBear2• 8 months ago

Flash storage is so much cheaper now.

I can't imagine choosing a cassette walkman over an mp3 player just based on how much music fits on the device.

galleywest200• 8 months ago

I have found that sometimes it is nice to have fewer choices when selecting media. It helps prevent analysis paralysis for me.

mrexroad3• 8 months ago

My daughter asked for a record player for Christmas. My wife and I picked a few albums to gift her… knowing that she’ll be captive to them for a short while. Starting her off with Nirvana’s mtv unplugged, Miles Davis kind of blue, and abbey road. She’s got great taste in music, so I’m looking forward to her to slowing down and deliberately experiencing an album, rather than fragmented playlists sprinkled with “Alexa/siri skip” every few minutes.

burnt-resistor2• 8 months ago

Yeap, it comes across as anemoia false nostalgia pining for a "utopia" than never existed. I had Weird Al and Metallica on cassette and a cheap-o, bulky Walkman and Koss Porta Pros. It didn't really ever play at a constant speed and ate batteries like they were free. When CDs came out (which was actually around 1981), they were a million times better, but it took forever to get the Discman down to a halfway decent price and not skip like crazy on the slightest bump. A good example of a portable CD player that worked well was the '94 Sony D-828K Car Discman that also wasn't just for cars.

And the 80's and 90's weren't that great. The best thing that happened was George Carlin on pirated analog HBO telling us how Americans were morons and that everything sucked. ;o)

Flash storage bit rots. As do consumer writable optical media. RAID HDD or you ain't got nothing.

Kerrick• 8 months ago

I've been having a hard time finding an (in-production) mp3 player that doesn't have a web browser.

ragazzina• 8 months ago

I wonder why SanDisk stopped manufacturing the Sansa Clip+. The production cost in 2025 would be extremely low and the demand still relatively high (relatively high as in, really low but high enough to sustain it as a product).

iberator• 8 months ago

Anolog media is just cool. Its like having some WW|| knife or motorbike helmet or vax780 in your youth Cool for teenagers

al_borland2• 8 months ago

As someone who grew up with cassette tapes, I don’t anticipate this fad lasting too long. They were very inconvenient. With most technology I see resistance from people not wanting to move on. I don’t remember seeing that with cassettes. The only downside of CDs was that you couldn’t record from the radio and Napster eventually solved that better than radio ever did.

Minidisc is the format I have some nostalgia for. It never blew up, but it felt like the best of both worlds. You could record from the radio like a digital cassette tapes, and even trim out the DJ and reorder tracks… and give them names. You could also buy them like a CD. From a digital file you could use a TOSlink cable to get a great quality recording at home. And the later ones even played MP3s directly. It could really do it all.

masklinn3• 8 months ago

The only downside of CDs was that you couldn’t record from the radio and Napster eventually solved that better than radio ever did.

This was far from the only drawback with CDs especially early on, at least in mobile applications: the media (and thus player) is bulky, cases are fragile (in part through increased leverage), it has low resilience to physical damage, and before memory prices hit low enough for significant buffering the slightest g forces would lead to skips.

MDs were real progress on that front. Shame it was quite expensive and the digital models were hobbled by horrendous software. And obviously flash-based pmps then smartphones are their lunch entirely.

otabdeveloper42• 8 months ago

has low resilience to physical damage

No it doesn't. As a child, one time I tried to make a CD unplayable and literally couldn't do it. (Sandpaper didn't do the trick.)

The real issue was the skipping when you tried to use a portable CD player.

4dregress2• 8 months ago

I remember my first “portable” was so bulky it came with its own carry case like a hand bag.

You had to step very lightly when using it as it was just itching to skip.

It would also eat through batteries like no one’s business.

cycomanic• 8 months ago

MDs are just another example of Sony screwing it up by making things proprietary and keeping it to themselves instead of creating an ecosystem (memory sticks were another example, although they didn't offer quite the same advantages). It's really a shame, I think if Sony would have gone about this differently they likely would have put off the emergence of MP3 players for a long time.

keyle• 8 months ago

I'd like to see the minidisc come back but the sheer cost of the units is bonkers today :)

Those were the days and gone they have.

mrexroad3• 8 months ago

I was recently surprised to sell an old portable MiniDisc player on fb for close to $100. (FWIW, it was mint). I’m still nostalgic for them, and have another portable player and recording deck, but I’m left scratching my head at how much folks are willing to pay to pick up their first player. Shrug

WorldPeas• 8 months ago

eventually I bet someone'll put a sd cassette in one and we'll be back to square one. I enjoy my atrac discman with writable disks, fits a lot of music but I'm not going to pretend I use it more than my phone

jochem9• 8 months ago

Vinyl is populair, inconvenient and doesn't have crisp audio quality. Cassettes are also inconvenient and have poor audio quality, plus they are cheap and portable. So I definitely also see them stick around. I also see plenty cassettes being issued on e.g. bandcamp for years already.

The poor audio quality can be seen as desired feature btw. It brings a certain lofi or warmth with it.

bjackman• 8 months ago

Vinyl is nowhere near as inconvenient as tapes and sounds way better. And I say this as someone who used to lug around big bags of 12" records as a DJ! It's pretty annoying, but it's still better than having to rewind, and deal with the appalling durability of cassettes!

Aldipower5• 8 months ago

I just released an album on cassette and definitely has _not_ poor audio quality. Anyway I remember a lot of releases with poor audio quality too, but this is more the problem of the production and not the cassette itself. All studio recordings back in the days were made with the same tape material, ferro oxid, sames as a Type I cassette.

latexr• 8 months ago

“The two things that really drew me to vinyl were the expense and the inconvenience”

https://cartoonstockart.com/featured/the-two-things-that-rea...

NoGravitas• 8 months ago

I kind of regard physical media, and especially analog media, as merch these days. And to be honest, they're a great kind of merch.

al_borland2• 8 months ago

Vinyl is big, which makes for a nice display of album art. 50% of vinyl buyers don’t own a record player. People play their convenience and high quality digital music, while displaying the vinyl albums as decorations.

https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/50-of-vinyl-buyers-do...

extrabajs2• 8 months ago

They were very inconvenient.

They were also very affordable!

4k93n2• 8 months ago

minidisc has a lot going for it. you can easily carry a few around with you. you dont really need to carry the outer cases. you can put some album art directly onto them. if your player has netMD support then you can just use a web browser to manage the tracks on a disc.

the only downside i can think of is the loud screeching every once in a while when the disc is seeking. but that could just be the player that i have maybe

omnicognate2• 8 months ago

Minidiscs proved that people were comfortable with lossy compression. It was to be many years before lossless audio became a thing again.

It always amused me how we were told the difference between lossless and lossy compression was undetectable to the human ear up until the big streaming services started providing lossless and even high res, at which point it was suddenly the best thing since sliced bread. However you feel about the audio, one way or another it's gaslighting.

Personally, on most music I can't tell decent quality lossy from lossless, but I listen to a lot of choral polyphony and also perform it so I have a good ear for it. When you're listening to 16 or in some cases up to 40 voices and can follow individual lines (single voices recognisable as particular people) you can hear it, and I disliked minidisc and mp3 players for that reason. High res, though, makes no difference at all as far as I can tell.

MrSkelter3• 8 months ago

They did no such thing. Sales numbers were tiny outside Japan. People only tolerate lossy compression when that’s all they are offered. Hence the streamers introducing lossless options years after launch due to demand.

burnto• 8 months ago

Cassettes and their cases had a really nice size and shape, fit right in the hand. And it was cool that you could see it moving, unlike (most) cd players. Also the recording paradigm was pretty easy to grasp, just 1:1. And they kinda degraded gracefully, with sound getting weird but still playing, at least until the tape actually came out in a big catastrophic mess and we’d try to rewind it with a pencil.

Aldipower5• 8 months ago

My last album release made 10x more money with selling the physical cassette then with digital sales! I think people want something in their hands. And by the way, the tape sounds really good. Definitely not lo fi, the opposite actually. Overall better then the compressed Spotify release with in comparison muddy bass and less saturation.

vladvasiliu3• 8 months ago

I think people want something in their hands.

I can understand that, and I like it, too. But, personally, I dont want to fill my home with random artefacts if it's not strictly required, and I don't know of anything "in my hands" that doesn't come with this issue.

To your compressed Spotify point, I do recognize this as a general issue for modern music distribution, which had already started with CDs (and to which cassettes aren't technically immune either).

So, as a musician, do you know of places selling digital media mastered as the artists intended? I've had good luck with Bandcamp, but they don't have most of the music I'm into.

TiredOfLife• 8 months ago

The reason is that rich hipsters have more expendable income.

cess11• 8 months ago

What do you mean by "fad"?

It's not like metal, dungeon synth and PE/noise artists have just now started publishing on cassette. They've done it for years and years, and you'll find a lot of them on Bandcamp, e.g. https://duckpropaganda.bandcamp.com/album/auditory-chokehold .

IAmBroom7• 8 months ago

OK. "Niche".

tmountain2• 8 months ago

Tapes are exceptionally durable when cared for properly. Here's a video of a guy that tests for loss of quality after 1,000 plays.

https://youtu.be/_dgJ4hRHBiw?si=IpjzdgAHJ4Q9yvb5

Quality is indistinguishable from the first playback. Tapes have a bad reputation because most people used them in the cars, which is the equivalent of storing them in an oven on a daily basis. A lot of car stereos were very cheap, and that lead to a lot of cassettes being damaged when they would have been fine otherwise.

Regarding the quality argument. Again, it's going to depend on the media and the equipment. I have a very nice Marantz tape deck, and I use chrome tapes with it. When recorded and played back with dolby noise reduction, it sounds pretty damn good!

https://youtu.be/jVoSQP2yUYA?si=db7QjRt37ENiLMFX

I say this as someone that also owns a very nice turntable and has a digital FLAC media collection, so I'm not married to tapes in any way. They're just something fun to goof around with (and mostly to give my kid a more tangible experience with playing music at home).

Regarding convenience, I can't argue that they're the least convenient media. That said, I'm an album guy, so I like to listen to recordings in their entirety most of the time.

Aldipower5• 8 months ago

You speak from my heart. And btw it hasn't to be chrome. Ferro oxid also can sound damn good if it is high quality tape and the production is good.

Gud• 8 months ago

So then they are NOT exceptionally durable?

If you must baby them and can’t use them in your car..

mytailorisrich• 8 months ago

Cassette tapes were more practical for portable devices. The last high-end Walkmans were beautifully crafted and barely bigger than the cassette inside whereas portable CD player were always bulkier if only because of the size of CDs themselves.

Minidisc tried to play in that space since minidisc players are very small.

foxrider• 8 months ago

I largely share your sentiment, I had a tape player as a kid, and the second I could get a CD player and burn my own CDs I never looked back. One thing that I don't see mentioned often is how battery-hungry these players were as well.

SirFatty• 8 months ago

DAT was the promised land..

timbit42• 7 months ago

I never saw a version of DAT as portable as cassettes.

port11• 8 months ago

I think the ‘warmth’ people attribute to older media has been shown to have to do with processing.

Modern audio has been mastered for loudness, with the corresponding loss of details and instrument separation. Tape media suffers less from this issue, and old vinyl even less so (but not modern releases).

It's an understandable response to the feeling of having lost ‘something’ in the era of digital audio (which is arguably just a matter of processing, not the media itself).

IAmBroom7• 8 months ago

There's also the factor that the last 20 years of music have been marketed towards BT MP3 players. Intrinsically low-fi, mono playback devices, so why care about things like deep bass and channel?

brnt• 8 months ago

I wish somebody would make minidiscs and minidisc players. Can (optionally) replace atrac with opus. Fast transfers but 'slow playback' and more durability than cassette or CD.

NetMageSCW• 8 months ago

I loved my Sony WM-10 back in the day.

ivolimmen• 8 months ago

I skipped this phase I still own a portable CD-player. I think I even own 2, me and my wife had one when we where young. They both still work.

amatecha4• 8 months ago

yeah I still have my old Panasonic SL-SX410 from 1999 or so, barely larger than the CD itself and with included AAA rechargeable NiMH batteries - kind of special at the time and it would charge the batteries itself (no separate charging station needed). I actually still have the original batteries and they still hold a very small charge. Maybe can listen to one or two songs lol

tosapple2• 8 months ago

That sounds like a very nice device, does it say how much "anti-skip" it had?

burnt-resistor2• 8 months ago

I dunno but it seems like anemoia. Maybe a few folks want to listen to a mixtape from their teen years that's gathering dust but is likely to break than play properly.

Also, it's difficult to top the school bus yellow Walkman Sports photo from Playboy that pretty much crystalized the zeitgeist.

jay_kyburz• 8 months ago

The FiiO Echo Mini popped up on my feed the other day. I think its cooler.

https://www.fiio.com/echomini

isodev2• 8 months ago

I wonder why in every movie about Steve Jobs, he is somehow "inventing" the mp3 player / iPod as a better alternative to the walkman, only to find ourselves in 2025 wanting to buy a walkman and not even knowing what iPod is?

Same for vinyls and CDs btw. Maybe music is more than just a fancy animation of album arts.

StrangeSound2• 8 months ago

Believe it or not the iPod community is alive and well! There are plenty of people buying them, replacing the battery and hard drive, performing some cosmetic mods, and daily driving them (me included)

It's popular enough that if you look on eBay, the price of an old iPod has become majorly inflated

isodev2• 8 months ago

isn't that just because it's an Apple device? I mean, there are people buying those old Macs that shipped with System 7 or 9... it's a fun hobby I guess. But there again, fast forward to 2025, you download a 17GB OS update so it can tell you which apps you can and can't run on your computer (in a barely readable messages because transparent backgrounds are a thing now)

cal_dent• 8 months ago

nostalgia is a helluva drug

mycall• 8 months ago

Do they eat cassette tapes just as good as the originals?

joombaga• 8 months ago

No, not if you rewind them. At least mine doesn't. But I can't trust the tension on a new tape.

normie30002• 8 months ago

Where are the modern tape decks for cars? Or something equivalent where the medium is robust enough to throw in the passenger footwell, and big enough to be safely grabbable and changeable while driving?

47282847• 8 months ago

USB front slot with USB memory sticks? One stick per playlist/album. Different form factors so you can locate the right one without taking your eyes off the road. Possible to embed into larger enclosures if you find them to small.

(Personally, I do prefer the modern Bluetooth+mobile+app+voice control).

normie30002• 7 months ago

I rocked this setup for a while, and it wasn't terrible. My only mistake was to buy 20 identical USB drives, but a sharpie helped to some extent.

firesteelrain• 8 months ago

Spotify with CarPlay?

arionmiles2• 8 months ago

I love this site. Earlier this year I was working to revive my sister's old WM-EX170 and was able to find a service manual for it here.

It made me appreciate how these devices are like pieces of beautiful clockwork!

I only had to replace the belt so it wasn't a complicated repair. But, in comparison to the level of documentation manufacturers of any modern electronics offer today, looking at that service manual was a reminder of what we've lost.

sceptic1235• 8 months ago

That's a service manual, any reasonable manufacturer still produces those

arionmiles2• 8 months ago

they have become harder and harder to obtain through the years.

LargoLasskhyfv• 8 months ago

Bandsalat

actionfromafar5• 8 months ago

Great name for a band

qazswx2• 8 months ago

qsc

qazswx2• 8 months ago

wddq

4dregress2• 8 months ago

I wonder if the same thing will happen with cameras?

actionfromafar5• 8 months ago

Already kind of has, with the Kodak Ektar 135 film cameras and such.

thomassmith65• 8 months ago

Bluetooth and is nice, but it's probably a better buy to get an antique portable cassette recorder. It's really something how primitive these look in comparison to the what was on the market in the 1980s.

Probably of interest to people here is this article from the dawn of the Walkman: https://time.com/archive/6697378/living-a-great-way-to-snub-...

jansan• 8 months ago

A question to native English speakers: Do you really say "Walkmans", not "Walkmen"?

mrexroad3• 8 months ago

That’s what I’ve always heard, and said.

toast0• 8 months ago

Yeah, Walkman is a name; we don't usually pluralize individual components of a name, we just add an s or an es, or sometimes (but not always) a trailing y becomes ies. But if we did plural by components it would be Walksman. :p (Personally, I try to pluralize compound nouns this way, cause I think it's fun. Even if it's not always appropriate or correct.)

pkulak• 8 months ago

Personally, I don’t like non-standard plurals and take the opportunity of a new word not to carry the mistake through. I prefer “mouses” as well, for the plural of a computer mouse.

jll292• 8 months ago

mouse => mice

corpus => corpora

thesaurus => thesauri

Emacs => Emacsen

Unix => Unices

sceptic1235• 8 months ago

I always saw it as an unmarked plural (like sheep/fish/etc). I also find it hard to not prefix it with Sony in my head. But I would definitely use Walkmen over Walkmans if pushed.

jwr2• 8 months ago

All these suck so badly compared to the last Panasonic I had. Japanese portable cassette players were incredible pieces of engineering. They were more a wrapper around the cassette than a player that you inserted the cassette into, with elaborate mechanical designs for bi-directional playback, auto skipping, etc.

socalgal2• 8 months ago

I preferred my Japanese Mini-Disc player. 240hrs of play time on one charge

fifilura• 8 months ago

I had this one, black

https://walkman.land/panasonic/rq-s55

The design was amazing, Apple designs of that time. Extremely slim and I can still recollect the tactile feeling of closing the lid.

I felt like a king owning one.

jwr2• 7 months ago

Oh, that's a great website! I found the model I last used: https://walkman.land/panasonic/rq-sx55

philistine2• 7 months ago

All these devices use the same exact mechanism from the last factory in the world making cassette mechanism. Of course, the last factory is not the one that was making the high quality stuff with all the noise reduction technology; the last holdout is the cheapest mechanism there ever was. It's bulky and can't even take advantage of any noise reduction tech.

A banged up old cassette player from Sony will produce higher quality sound than a brand new mechanism.

changadera• 8 months ago

We recently dug out my portable cassette player (Not as small as a walkman, takes D cell batteries) so my daughter could listen to my wife's Disney cassettes from her childhood in the early 90s. I was amazed how a 5 year old immediately figured out how to manipulate the tape player and flip over cassettes etc. I suppose it was similar for me at the same age. We even found a NOS Disney cassette on eBay that my wife didn't have.

The funny thing is, even though I'm just about old enough to have bought a few chart music cassettes when they were a contemporary medium, I don't own any cassettes and I only had the player because I bought it on eBay to experiment with tape degradation for music.

jsmailes• 8 months ago

I love the aesthetic of cassette tapes and players -- there's just something really satisfying about the size and tactility of putting in a cassette. Beyond that, it feels better to choose to listen to a particular album rather than putting endless playlists on shuffle.

There's definitely space for tape to persist as a medium, even if quality and longevity is lower -- not everything has to be audiophile level, and the listening experience is far more than just sound quality.

klez2• 8 months ago

it feels better to choose to listen to a particular album rather than putting endless playlists on shuffle.

Isn't that something you can do with streaming services as well?

I understand that many people choose to go with playlists, but it's not like the choice of listening to full albums has been taken away (yet).

Sure, the implementation is lackluster, with gaps between tracks when there shouldn't be one (really annoying on ambient/atmospheric/drone tracks), but still better than nothing.

spopejoy• 7 months ago

Isn't that something you can do with streaming services as well?

There's a number of differences.

- While yes you can play albums, streamers have decided for us that giving us an album-oriented playlist is out of the question. Try it: make a playlist of 12 favorite albums, maybe with some double albums in there -- now quickly, play the Miles Davis album in the middle. Compare this to leaving 12 albums in the front of your drawer because it's what you're into now: no way to recreate this on streamers, and even if there was, they could change their mind and take that feature away anytime.

- As for picking something out of the blue, browsing a 120-album collection is easy IRL, a modest collection. On a screen it's annoying at best. It's like trying to page through a book on kindle, IRL books are vastly superior because of the combination of visual and sensory/touch.

- Finally there's the commitment of having to fire up the medium and the pleasure of considering the jacket art etc. With streaming there is no "dropping a needle" pleasure, no resistance to abandon the stream once that one not-amazing song comes up, and the album art experience is garbage.

Streaming is good for discovery of single songs, and a good radio experience (but only if there's a human behind the playlist, or the AI isn't total garbage which it usually is). It's also unbeatable for quickly assembling a party-length playlist. But for an enjoyable, artist-focused listening session, it's kind of crap.

sceptic1235• 8 months ago

penetrating voice and warm sound

Are they talking about cassette tapes? Maybe my memory is failing me, but I don't remember that being a thing back in the day.

klez2• 8 months ago

Take a look here[0] for a discussion about cassette quality.

TL;DR: Like many of us you probably had shitty equipment and shitty cassettes. They are more than capable of sounding great with the right tools.

[0] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jVoSQP2yUYA

sceptic1235• 8 months ago

So it's possible to get better sound quality with better quality tapes and players, but I'm pretty sure the player that's using that description falls neatly into the shitty equipment category.

jpfromlondon• 8 months ago

The problem with all of these is they use the same components because only one factory makes them any longer, they're quite bulky, and relatively low quality, for anyone interested in this you're better off getting an old used player.

maratc• 8 months ago

Anyone knows of a similar site but for portable AM/FM radios?

jll292• 8 months ago

This thread is dripping from nostalgia, in a good way.

I wonder how things are going to be in 25 or 50 years, what will today's kids look back with the same kind of devotion and nostalgia.

A lot of things are intangible/immaterial now (for non-geeks/non-hoarders, their inbox, online playlist and photos will likely be gone, they won't have any paper letters or plastic-framed holiday slide photographs or anything like that).

IAmBroom7• 8 months ago

"I miss having to actually click on a website to get there. These neural implants don't have the feel of old-time web buttons..."

112233• 8 months ago

Meanwhile, here is an actual Sony Walkman that is modern, i.e. in production: https://electronics.sony.com/audio/audio-components/hi-res-a...

eudamoniac• 8 months ago

Buying anything like this contributes to eWaste in a really silly way, because cassette tapes are inferior to digital in quite literally every objective measure. As far as unnecessary consumption is concerned, this is more unnecessary than most of it.

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