Footage of Chang'e-6's land on far side of the moon

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by xnhbx • 2 years ago

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m_a_g• 2 years ago

Is the footage fast-forwarded? I'd imagine landing to be much slower.

Also, is that how the moon looks, or is this some kind of night vision?

fernandopj• 2 years ago

Definitely. You can see the lander "breaking" to adjust fall trajectory twice, the actual burst wouldn't be that fast.

beefnugs• 2 years ago

camera footage taken in space is something weird indeed. I remember when i first saw how an eclipse affects shadows in real life. It immediately clicked in my brain why that early moon landing footage looked how it did. And also how easily so many people thought it was fake

guerrilla• 2 years ago

Can you elaborate?

logtrees• 2 years ago

Amazing work Chang'e-6 team, amazing work China! Congratulations!

seatac76• 2 years ago

Good stuff. Very consistent program to moon they have there.

gcanyon• 2 years ago

Nice work, go team human! From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chang'e_6

"If the mission is successful, China will become the first nation to land, collect, and deliver samples back to Earth from the far side of the Moon."

The_Colonel• 2 years ago

Your second sentence (even of it's a citation) makes this about competition, kinda negating the message of your first sentence.

mef• 2 years ago

competition within teams can be a good thing

SoftTalker• 2 years ago

I don't think anyone is really competing for this achievement right now. If I'm running a race with no other competitors, can I claim to have finished first? Or even to be racing?

tromp• 2 years ago

At 0:28 you can see a brief glimpse of part of Chang'e-6 itself.

pavel_lishin• 2 years ago

I can't tell if that's part of the ship, or its shadow: https://i.imgur.com/NTiZuJe.png

ThinkBeat• 2 years ago

It is truly amazing how much engineering and science China has mastered.

They have the newest space station as well.

They appear to have made faster progress on production of more advanced computer chips as well but that requires some further investigation / proof.

This all while a single hostile nation wants to dictate what China is allowed or not allowed to buy on the free market.

tw04• 2 years ago

It’s also fueled by rampant IP theft. It’s a lot easier to advance when you’re not actually inventing anything.

Dalewyn8• 2 years ago

Be that as it may, these things are won by whoever crosses the finish line first and China appears to be ahead of the west at this point and especially if current trends continue.

Also worth noting that American space exploration achievements were also kickstarted by importing the talent from post-WW2 Germany.

grecy• 2 years ago

Humans would be a lot better off if everyone just copied everyone so we could advance as quickly as possible - imagine if the entire would could just manufacture whatever cutting edge medicine some corporation is holding hostage - and that's just the medicine example. Let your mind wander to every aspect of life - clean energy, transport, tech.

Of course corporations wouldn't make nearly as much money, but is the goal of civilization for humans to live good lives, or for corporations to make maximum profit?

basch• 2 years ago

The scale of wealth/information transfer probably hasn't closely been accounted for, and is a fascinating story.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2012/07/09/nsa-chief-cybercrime-co...

https://www.infosecinstitute.com/resources/general-security/...

https://www.usitc.gov/publications/332/pub4199.pdf

https://securitypolicylaw.syr.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/06...

America's petro dollar funds research by arming countries that pull oil from the ground, research that is then acquired, emulated, and iterated upon. Who's the crook in that story? The people robbing the earth of a natural resource? The people holding the world hostage forcing them to use their financial system? The people taking scientific knowledge they didn't "pay for."

While a significant portion of the techy American population in their younger years was against America's strengthen of intellectual property rights, while they were focused on art being locked down, were ignoring how much of America's strength in the world is propped up by claiming America owns ideas, information, and knowledge, that others have to buy from them.

pompino2• 2 years ago

As-if all countries are on the brink of launching their own space program, if only they copied a few PDFs from somewhere. Its a US intelligence talking point.

skhunted2• 2 years ago

This all while a single hostile nation wants to dictate what China is allowed or not allowed to buy on the free market.

Xi has abandoned the wise policies of Deng and is setting China back. Due to the idiocy of Xi it's not a single hostile nation as you put it. It's Vietnam, South Korea, Japan, the Philippines, India, the EU, Australia, and New Zealand.

Leary• 2 years ago

If the EU is so hostile as you claim, why did France, Italy, and Sweden all collaborate with China on this mission to the moon?

joshuaheard2• 2 years ago

I love the spirit of the Chinese people, but much of the engineering and science China has was stolen from the "hostile nation". China also restricts who can enter its markets and censors its citizens from outside influences.

pompino2• 2 years ago

How do you know what was "stolen" and how it helped them?

huygens6363• 2 years ago

It’s a disgrace indeed. This fragile, completely open and transparant, utterly harmless human rights paradise wants to just grow a tiny bit while this single, isolated, hostile, aggressive and jealous close-minded nation wants to control them.

jameshart• 2 years ago

Translations matter. There’s rather an important semantic distinction between claiming a ‘landing’ on the moon vs claiming ‘land’ on the moon.

Currently the headline on HN reads “Footage of Chang'e-6's land on far side of the moon”

Dalewyn8• 2 years ago

Looks like a bad translation, it's not even proper English.

NHK reports[1] that China announced Chang'e-6 "landed" (着陸, chakuriku) successfully on the far side of the Moon.

[1] https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20240602/k10014468871000.ht...

tectonic2• 2 years ago

Super cool! We have been tracking this mission in Orbital Index for a while. https://orbitalindex.com/archive/2024-03-13-Issue-260/#chang...

This mission required a communication satellite that loiters on the far side of the Moon as well to relay communications back to earth. https://orbitalindex.com/archive/2024-03-13-Issue-260/#queqi...

qingcharles2• 2 years ago

Love Orbital Index... just realized I stopped getting emails from you guys in 2022 :( Does it auto-unsubscribe if I don't open one for a while? I was away from the Internet for a few months.

tectonic2• 2 years ago

Glad you’re a fan! It shouldn’t, unless it was 6+ months I think.

MaximilianEmel• 2 years ago

It starts looking like a fractal halfway through.

mmcconnell1618• 2 years ago

You can't really tell the scale of the craters because each time you get closer, more craters appear. I can imagine that even with stereoscopic eyes, a human could easily misjudge distance and scale too. We're not used to operating in such a barren environment.

oefrha2• 2 years ago

The video element didn't work for me on iOS Safari for some reason. Anyway here's the direct link to the video: https://www.sastind.gov.cn/video/0602ce6dl2.mp4

punk_ihaq• 2 years ago

So cool! At 0:28, you can briefly see the shadow of one of the landers legs about to touchdown

uncertainquark2• 2 years ago

If anyone’s interested, I did a deep dive into the Chang’e 6 mission, including clarifying some misconceptions: https://jatan.space/moon-monday-issue-174/

oefrha2• 2 years ago

Thanks, this is the most informative writeup I’ve read about the current and upcoming missions.

uncertainquark2• 2 years ago

Thank you! It’s part of the Chinese lunar special series I’ve been doing all month. Here’s the rest of the four:

https://jatan.space/moon-monday-issue-175/

https://jatan.space/moon-monday-issue-176/

https://jatan.space/moon-monday-issue-177/

ammo16622• 2 years ago

The "video" is not actually a video. It is composed by a series of images. So yes the video is fast-forwarded.

And the probe will hover above the landing area and use a laser to detect the surface to choose the landing point. It can be seen in the video.

mdrewry• 2 years ago

true, but aren't all videos just individual frames played in a sequential order?

ammo16622• 2 years ago

Yes, you are correct. Sorry for misleading about that.

I saw some comments that due to the limited bandwidth of the relay satellite, these images were taken every second. So it is actually not a "video".

Simon_ORourke• 2 years ago

Great work, I'm curious as to how autonomous the landing was (I assume fully autonomous) - but since there's awesome video sent back from the dark side of the moon there must be some relay in orbit too.

I'd give the Chinese space program more than a healthy 50/50 chance of landing humans on the moon again within the next ten years.

ein0p4• 2 years ago

I consider this unlikely - it is at least an order of magnitude harder to land people there and get them back even if you already have the heavy rockets and experience required. The US remains the only country capable of repeating this feat within the next 10 years, in spite of the current timelines being ridiculously unrealistic, simply because it doesn’t have to guess quite as much and either already has or in the advanced stages of building the necessary technological base.

binary1322• 2 years ago

I’m not convinced even the US is actually capable of that.

elzbardico• 2 years ago

I don't believe current day USA will be able to go back to the moon. The decadence and corruption are accelerating.

MaxPock• 2 years ago

And then you remember the Wolf Amendment that was enacted to hold back Chinese space efforts and you laugh . According to this American law ,NASA is not supposed to be in contact with the Chinese government or Chinese government affiliated organizations.

overstay8930• 2 years ago

It was just to delay missile development as Chinese affaires were caught gathering information for non-scientific endeavors, anyone with half of a brain knows that China was going to do this eventually.

Footage of Chang'e-6's land on far side of the moon

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