Scorched Earth 2000 – Web

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scorch2000.com

meshko9• 2 months ago

for the 25th anniversary (approximately) I vibecoded what i wanted to do for years -- port of the original remake (yes) to JavaScript. Alive again.

alex_anglin• 2 months ago

Doing the lords work, as they say. Thank you for sharing.

felooboolooomba2• 2 months ago

Great work! People are not realizing to press "start". Possible to add audio notification and/or highlighting the button red when ready?

meshko9• 2 months ago

yeah this is what happens when you let LLM design the UI. The whole flow needs to be updated.

kylemaxwell• 2 months ago

I played the hell out of the original DOS game during high school in 1992 (or thereabouts, it's been a while.)

api• 2 months ago

It was fun. Was a bit younger but played it like crazy too on my 286.

Rollers! Lava! It’s like the author started with a simple tank war game and then just threw in every weird little effect they could code as a creative weapon.

There were all kinds of neat hacks.

The_Blade• 2 months ago

same, it was a step up from dopewars, but not quite leisure suit larry which one of our friends had

years later i defeated the high score of Stephen Meek and realized with horror Oregon Trail was intended to teach patience not just dysentery damn you MECC!!

el_duderino• 2 months ago

Same! I remember playing this during my Borland C++ for DOS class in school. Good times.

walrus012• 2 months ago

Early 90s DOS games were certainly quite creative. I mentally draw a dividing line between approximately the start of the era when the first Soundblaster became a common thing to find in affordable home x86 PCs, and early CD-ROM based games were also available (1991-1992), and the December 1993 release of DOOM and everything that came after. Very interesting era in the time frame in between there.

FireBeyond• 2 months ago

Yeah, I remember our high school IT teacher buying a 486sx25 with 8MB and a CDROM ostensibly to explore multimedia in education but mostly to play Myst.

conception• 2 months ago

I feel like Mario 64 was another one of those and AAA never really left Doom or Mario 64.

jasonfarnon2• 2 months ago

Don't I remember doom developing pretty organically from wolfenstein and a few other (what would now be called) first person shooters around that time? The name "hexen" is coming to mind too. I would put that whole era as the start of something new, so different from the strategy games and side-scrollers that preceded it. Those first person games were the first time I thought computer games were actually more fun than the console systems, which didn't really have anything similar.

alterom3• 2 months ago

We played Tank Wars by Kenny Morse, it's from 1990 and preceded Scorched Earth:

https://archive.org/details/TankWars_274

More unhinged fun IMO

sonar_un• 2 months ago

I was gonna say, this is totally tank wars!

mpyne• 2 months ago

Yeah, this is the one that ruled my homeroom during last bit of elementary school.

Cpoll• 2 months ago

They had a shared ancestor in Tanx. I also remember Tank Wars fondly.

ndr42• 2 months ago

I just want to let this Atari ST classic here: Ballerburg (1987) is massive fun.

skeeterbug2• 2 months ago

Oh man, we played this in computer lab in high school to pass time after we were done with our assignments. I believe it was a java/flash version though (year 2000/2001)

meshko9• 2 months ago

yup, it was a java applet. Stopped working when Java in the browser died.

skeeterbug2• 2 months ago

Just played a round, think I found a bug - It was down to one other computer and myself. For some reason the power capped at 235, so neither of us could come close to hitting one another.

fullstop• 2 months ago

I brought it back to life at one point as a Java Swing app for my kids, but the server side of things was still wonky. I'm glad to see that it's alive again, I had a lot of fun with this in the early 2000s.

vunderba4• 2 months ago

Neat. The website looks the same (in a good way) from when I remember it over a decade ago - are you the creator of the original java port from back then?

https://web.archive.org/web/20140210122645/http://www.scorch...

Waterluvian• 2 months ago

Yup. Hours and hours of this. Along with a Java skiing sim called Motion Playground.

ChrisArchitect• 2 months ago

A related page:

Scorched Earth: The Mother of All Games

http://www.whicken.com/scorch/

(https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32092060)

meshko9• 2 months ago

yeah, that's the original. It is better than this remake but no multiplayer.

krupan2• 2 months ago

It had multiplayer, as long as you were all sitting at the same computer:-)

Forgeties792• 2 months ago

Hoooooly hell I totally forgot about this. Talk about dredging up some memories. I don’t think I have thought about this game in literally 20 years.

rickcarlino• 2 months ago

I did not realize Pocket Tanks was a derivative work.

nodrog3000• 2 months ago

Haha, same

compiler-guy• 2 months ago

Tank games like this have a long heritage. Scorch is probably the pinnacle, but I played primitive versions of this all the way back on an Apple ][.

iamnothere• 2 months ago

GORILLA.BAS is arguably part of the lineage too, somewhere in there.

alterom3• 2 months ago

So is Scorched Earth, it's preceded (at least) by "Tank Wars" (aka BOMB.EXE) by Kenny Morse from 1990:

https://archive.org/details/TankWars_274

mock-possum• 2 months ago

BOMB.EXE was my first.

Sharlin• 2 months ago

Worms is as well. It’s an entire genre: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artillery_game

prmoustache• 2 months ago

I like Hedgewars which is an open source game similar to Worms but with hedgehogs. It is available as package in most Linux distros but also on Windows, Mac and FreeBSD. I believe it is available on Steam as well.

LocalH5• 2 months ago

Scorched Tanks on Amiga was the real derivative work, Pocket Tanks was that author's more modern update

cestith2• 2 months ago

Discussion of the genre’s legacy is not complete without Artillery Duel for the Atari VCS 2600.

https://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-2600-vcs-artillery-due...

motgnay• 2 months ago

LOL nostalgic

sbinnee• 2 months ago

OMG. One of my favorite games. It was fun to explore all the weapons and utilities with my brother.

rhema• 2 months ago

9 year old me got my first "hacking" experience out of this game. With the shareware version, you could not select the ultra tank that could shoot 3 bullets for a human, but you COULD if it were the computer player.

The "hack": -start a game with a normal tank VS ultra computer player as p2. -save the game (as a file). -open the game file. -read the ASCII text and just flip which player has which text.

Now, I had my ultra tank.

leoooodias• 2 months ago

L33T!

stackghost• 2 months ago

Mine was similar but it was the original C&C. Found this sketchy-ass save game editor/mod editor, proceeded to give the little Nod buggies the laser from the obelisk of light to trivialize the single player campaign.

That feeling of being the leetest of leet haxors just from editing some ini settings was pretty glorious.

NBJack• 2 months ago

I recall the INI files of Red Alert were an open book for modding the game mechanics. I had spies with silenced pistols and "tesla cufflinks". It was really fun making crates spawn super frequently. I also vaguely recall making one of the planes into a nuke carpet bombers (fun, but the forced delay each time a nuke went off was a tad annoying).

Then there were the Duke Nukem 3D CON files...

wingmanjd• 2 months ago

Mine was on a similar game, GORILLA.BAS. I would edit the banana code for a much bigger explosion. Lots of fun back in computer class!

ido• 2 months ago

The difference being that editing the source code was the point of the BASIC examples provided with DOS/QBasic/GW-Basic (they’re there to teach you programming!)

parlortricks• 2 months ago

We added other weapons to make a poor mans scorched earth as we were only allowed to make games.

Induane• 2 months ago

I removed collision detection so I could throw bananas through buildings

Barbing• 2 months ago

Where would we be without computer class

Something I wonder! Grateful :D

thih9• 2 months ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorillas_(video_game)

czemuja• 2 months ago

oh man!!!!!! You reminded me my first gaming experience on a PC with oragne-green screen :D Awesome game

ConceptJunkie• 2 months ago

After learning the secret of "breaking" protected BASIC programs in DOS (which involved a poke, as I recall), I remember making higher difficulty levels for a BASIC Star Trek game, because it just wasn't very hard.

jasonfarnon2• 2 months ago

It would be a nice thread on here, to see what people's first hacks were, especially from that era when people were usually just alone and stumbling on these things.

wincy• 2 months ago

Ooh the Dungeon Keeper demo actually had all of the characters, just not the art assets. So when I was 11 I modified the ini file and had invisible giants and vampire lords doing my bidding in my dungeon. I was very proud of myself.

colordrops• 2 months ago

The whole cracking scene was where a lot us cut our teeth learning to use machine code debuggers.

vunderba4• 2 months ago

Me as a kid realizing that the rate of fire on the shotgun was directly tied to the number of animation frames in the original Doom. Cue mecha super-extreme gatling shotgun and also mecha super-extreme choppy frame rate.

Hitscan weapons for the win.

amarant2• 2 months ago

My first was almost kinda similar to GP: me and my cousin played a game called ReVolt, and found that you could make the cars go faster by changing their speed attribute in some text file we found just poking around the game files.

Man we had some good fun with that! It always ended with us boosting our cars so much they flew out of the map

el_benhameen• 2 months ago

Mine was very simple, just finding and playing with values in config.ini for Red Alert 2 so that I could have infinite Tanyas and such.

Next step was trying to get the boot screen to display a MS-branded Borg cube but instead bricking the machine. Parents were not thrilled about that.

magicalhippo• 2 months ago

Bypassed the anti-piracy manual check in the second Championship Manager[1] game for my buddy. It was a typical check at the time which in this case asked you to reference a table of soccer matches in the manual and enter the correct game results for one of the games, ie 1-3 or similar.

I had been teaching myself programming for a few of years and had recently gotten my hands on Turbo Pascal. I had just started dabbling in assembly as well. So I launched the game through the debugger and by stepping through functions, in assembly obviously since I didn't have source, I finally got to the place where it waited for me to input the game results.

It encoded the game result in a single register, and compared the value in that register to a value in another register which it had loaded the correct value into.

Using the surrounding code, I located the byte in the executable and replaced that one comparison instruction with one which compared one of the registers with itself, which of course was the same all day err day. Wrote a small program to apply the one-byte patch.

Took a lot of time, especially tracing to find the right place since I wasn't very good at using the debugger nor that proficient with assembly. But very satisfying when my buddy could just enter whatever result he wanted and enjoy the game.

After that I dropped cracking games and focused on save-game cheats which I did for a while until games added sanity checks or just had very dynamic save-game formats.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Championship_Manager_2

kstrauser• 2 months ago

Saving a game in Bard’s Tale (for Amiga). Buying an item in a store. Saving the game again. Comparing the save files with a hand-rolled AmigaBASIC hex dumper to find the bytes that changed. Working out from there how it stored money balances in the file. Tweak a little… and voila, everyone in my party’s getting mithril plate and frost horns.

HerbManic3• 2 months ago

While not the first hack by a long shot and not even mine but I always loved the idea of how it worked.

There used to be program called Gamehack or something like that. Essentially you would start the game and point this application at said game in RAM, then take note of something like the score being "187" or whatever. Jump into 'Gamehack' and it would search for everything in memory with that value. You would then play for a little bit longer and once the score had changed, you could then jump into game hack and find which of those memory addresses had changed to the new score. Usually you would only have one, you could then change this number to what ever you wanted.

It was such a simple concept but it worked so well. Wouldn't be able to do something like that anymore due to all manner of sandboxing in action. Lost a tool, gained security.

Only other hack was messing with the vehicle stats in Vice City. Ended up with the firetruck that could jump the entire map. Good fun.

vintermann• 2 months ago

I had a Loki software demo of Heroes of Might and Magic 3 for Linux. Couldn't find the full game anywhere, certainly not legally. You could only play one scenario with one town. But from saving and comparing save files in a hex editor, I figured out how to play as the other towns, change heroes and skills etc. The key discovery was finding out that the saves were compressed with something very like gzip. The game complained that checksums didn't match when I loaded a decompressed->modified->recompressed save file, but it still worked just fine.

tuzemec• 2 months ago

Adding money to a CIV 1 save game file with the PCTOOLS hex editor.

ourmandave• 2 months ago

Did anyone manage to cheat in Oregon Trail?

I imagine you could change the chances of mishaps, or start with $1M, or remove the limit of how many buffalo steaks you could bring back from a hunt.

whynotmaybe• 2 months ago

Opening Eye of the Beholder II save files and moving items in your inventory to detect the hex code.

Then trying other random codes and finding stuff in your inventory like animal carcass

papascrubs• 2 months ago

Playing Omega (roguelike) on ATARI ST, there were food shops that you could buy stacks of fried lizard bites if I remember correctly? Anyways, I found out that if you bought the max amount 99999999, it would actually give you money. Baby's first buffer overflow. The only issue is that it would also put that amount in your inventory, so you were basically too slow to move and had to drop each stack so my towns were littered with stacks of lizard bites. I'm not sure where the bug was introduced and I never found it in the PC versions later on when I looked.

cestith2• 2 months ago

This might make a nice top-level Ask HN.

invalidusernam3• 2 months ago

This reminds me of something similar I did as a teenager in the 90s. Also some shareware game, can't remember exactly what it was about (I think a submarine game?). The shareware version only gave access to the first map. After digging around the files I found that it included all the maps and simply renaming map n to map 1's file name allowed you to play it

dguest3• 2 months ago

I "hacked" Cap'n Hector in Escape Velocity.

The game was shareware and he'd show up to ask you to pay the fee. After the trial period he'd start lobbing missiles at you. There was a basic editor you could open to adjust all the ship stats and weapons, so while you couldn't turn him friendly you could at least de-claw him.

I remember thinking it was weird how "easy" it was to work around, but it's hard to imagine the studio would care much: a pre-internet 14 year who loved the game that much is probably more useful as an ambassador than a paying customer.

VorpalWay• 2 months ago

I did something similar for the sequel Escape Velocity Override when I was a kid. It also had the same Captain Hector. Though in my case I buffed my own ship's armor and shields instead. I was not very good at the game (still am not to be honest), so I kind of needed that anyway to get through it.

I also remember that in EV Override you needed to stay below a certain amount of money to not trigger Captain Hector, and I would set the system clock back so it wouldn't think that the trial period had passed.

There are two modern spiritual successors to the EV games that might interest you if you haven't heard of them. Both are open source and have a decent amount of content (but aren't complete): Endless Sky, and Naev. Where the former is much closer to the old EV games in feel.

stavros3• 2 months ago

Also, if the game is single-player, you don't care: Simply let the players enjoy the game how they want to enjoy it.

microtonal2• 2 months ago

Sounds familiar. As a kid I was bothered that I had to harvest spice or Tiberium (I forgot whether it was Dune 2 or Command & Conquer, but I think the latter).

So I figured out where in the binary save file credits were stored and wrote a small Pascal program that would give me the highest possible credits so that I could focus on base and unit building :).

Pxtl• 2 months ago

Dune 2 before that was similarly hackable. The level definitions were just text files with an encoding that only certain editors would open.

waltbosz• 2 months ago

I had a similar youthful hacking experience with this game, I was also 9 at the time. The computer players would say a little trash-talk phrase before making their shot. I edited the text file that contained all the phrases and added new ones with swear words. My older brother, who was the one that installed the game on our computer, noticed the new phrases asked me if I had edited the text file. I lied that I hadn't, then re-edited the file to remove my changes.

pickleglitch• 2 months ago

I did this exact same thing. I added a bunch of Monty Python quotes.

arnarbi• 2 months ago

Scorched Earth was also my first hacking target. Found out that your cash balance and weapons inventory was all stored in a mysterious .ini file and you could just edit it.

rrr_oh_man• 2 months ago

Sounds like Nintendo World Cup and the special field selection trick

nickandbro• 2 months ago

Wow! Curious how you did multiplayer over the web? What stack did you use?

meshko9• 2 months ago

WebSockets.

GavinAnderegg• 2 months ago

Scorched Earth taught me the concept of software versions. It was the first program that I ever knowingly interacted with more than one point-release of. I had version 1.0, but a friend had version 1.2. My very young mind was boggled by the concept of software being updated.

evilgeneralist• 2 months ago

I was thinking about this last night. "If it's a different... version.. then it's a different game"

I think Super Mario 2 being what it was really messed me up.

bandrami• 2 months ago

I wasted most of my high school years on the OG (1991) version. I love how such a simple concept can make for such a great game

dylan604• 2 months ago

Didn't realize that in 2026 people still ran an http only websites

meshko9• 2 months ago

part of the 2001 charm?

navigate8310• 2 months ago

Pocket Tanks was my ultimate childhood game that I played with my classmates during our computer lab lessons. I believe Scorched Earth was it's inspiration

NewLincoln• 2 months ago

What was the game like this with apes throwing bananas?

nope96• 2 months ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorillas_(video_game)

SigmundA• 2 months ago

I remember the original Scorched Earth being one of the few games that could actually do SVGA graphics at the time.

Most games of the era where 320x240 8 bit 256 colors, I had a 286 with 800x600 SVGA monitor and that game could actually use it although it was only 4 bit 16 color, don't think I ever played the 256 color in the last version.

erickf1• 2 months ago

Thank you for this blast from the past.

deepakhj• 2 months ago

We used to play the DOS version in AP Computers in HS back in 1994.

AbraKdabra• 2 months ago

Holy... the nostalgia, I played the hell out of this game in computer class back in school 25 years ago, time flies.

skirmish2• 2 months ago

In my first job after graduation in a small company I was talking to the VP of engineering, and he mentioned offhand: "yeah, I wrote Scorch when I was in college". Mind blown.

reconnecting• 2 months ago

Must be Wendell Hicken.

https://www.whicken.com/

skirmish2• 2 months ago

Yes, it was.

manosyja• 2 months ago

I played this game so much that I instantly recognised that name *G

jnettome• 2 months ago

This bring me back so many good memories! Thank you!

sailfast• 2 months ago

NO. WAY.

This made my whole day. Thank you.

passive• 2 months ago

OH GOD! MY NOSTALGIA!!!!

amarant2• 2 months ago

Ooh, and it's fully playable!

Last time I tried this game, I think I had managed to get a hold of the original executable or something: the rate of turn for the turret was tied to CPU cycles. Paying it on a computer about a decade younger than the game made it quite impossible to aim, as the turret would spin several laps if you so much as looked at the arrow key

HerbManic3• 2 months ago

There are some Chess games from that era that tied their difficulty to the CPU speed. Essentially calculate options for 5 seconds or something like that. So as hardware got faster, the games got way more difficult.

ticulatedspline• 2 months ago

Mother of all games. Played so much SE when I was younger, one of my all time favs.

This version is ok but I prefer the original which is easy enough to run via dos-box, emulators of similar ilk or even online in a few places:

https://archive.org/details/msdos_Scorched_Earth_1991

https://dos.zone/scorched-earth/

https://www.playdosgames.com/play/scorched-earth

I loved turning the explosion to the max and launching Nukes or Death Head MIRVs and watching the whole screen be annihilated. Despite many clones I've never found one that really captured the feel and fun of the original. I'd love to see a faithful remake that had a larger playing area though.

Timwi• 2 months ago

Despite many clones I've never found one that really captured the feel and fun of the original.

Not trying to be contrarian, but for factual correctness I'm going to point out that Scorched Earth is a clone of an earlier game, Tank Wars. I've played both and I agree that Scorched Earth had more to it, but it wasn't the original.

LocalH5• 2 months ago

Scorched Tanks on Amiga got decently close

johng• 2 months ago

Man, I used to play this game a ton.... and the throw the banana game that was written in basic and came with DOS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyBD0X81tjk

xstefi• 2 months ago

omg, 286 with B/W CRT display

Markoff• 2 months ago

original Scorched Earth is only 4 years older than Worms

Hard to understand for me why would anyone play this when they can play much funnier Worms. I mean I played Scorched Earth with my cousin before Worms existed, but once they released Worms why would we play it?

I am still playing Worms Armageddon in 2026 with my kids on PS3 at least once or twice a week (the original graphics didn't age very well for 4K TVs), though not retro levels, they are way too small, dunno why they didn't scale them up for higher resolution.

pcblues• 2 months ago

No way! I played the original (too much) while doing computer science at uni in the early 1990s. My friends were either playing the Dune RTS or mmorpgs, depending on their leaning. A lot of the limited available computing power went into playtime in those days :)

r721• 2 months ago

There exists 3D version:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scorched_3D

http://www.scorched3d.co.uk/

flyinghamster• 2 months ago

Back in the early 2000s, that scene was HOPPING. A whole bunch of mods were around, some of which seem to have disappeared, particularly Armored Warfare Evolved.

A couple of things happened (at least to my perception): a bug cropped up in the Apocalypse mod where hitting a small shop would cause it to burn for over a minute, disrupting multi-player game play, and on the servers there was an invasion by trolls complete with Nazi avatars, who drove players away (myself included).

NoboruWataya• 2 months ago

There's also xscorch http://www.xscorch.org/

CyanLite2• 2 months ago

I'm making a WebAssembly clone of this fantastic game. Stay tuned...

krupan2• 2 months ago

Original scorch had a text file with all the sayings the tanks would "shout" out just before firing. Trading those around on BBSes was part of the fun. I still remember, "from Hell's heart I stab at thee!" which is probably from some classic literature that I don't know, lol!

ghaff• 2 months ago

Moby Dick. Khan said something at least very similar in ST 2.

IFC_LLC• 2 months ago

Damn it! Can you please stop thwarting my company release cycle? Now the entire dev team is playing this!

Good thing that I'm winning. Everyone who looses his tank goes to do the deploy.

npongratz• 2 months ago

Just remember: "NO KIBITZING"!

Sadly, it appears ChatGPT 5.5 did not implement this crucial feature for this javascript port.

RHSeeger• 2 months ago

I remember playing this in college. Such good times.

felooboolooomba2• 2 months ago

PSA: YOU NEED TO PRESS THE START BUTTON IF YOU ARE HOSTING A GAME.

People are creating games and waiting and waiting ...

meshko9• 2 months ago

fixed, i think.

Aardwolf• 2 months ago

Great, I got the almost invisible red tank on a magenta background!

joymonger• 2 months ago

This triggered memories I forgot I had. Thank you!

addybojangles• 2 months ago

MEMORIES!

Scorched Earth 2000 – Web

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