Tesla Robotaxi Videos Show Speeding, Driving into Wrong Lane

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-06-23/tesla-robotaxi-videos-show-speeding-driving-into-wrong-lane

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beepbooptheory• 1 year ago

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ranger_danger6• 1 year ago

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physhster• 1 year ago

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gruez3• 1 year ago

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bdamm2• 1 year ago

Thank you! Works great for me.

seydor• 1 year ago

aren't they using the same software as existing full self driving vehicles? And lets admit, lanes are relative, have u seen the english?

gruez3• 1 year ago

And lets admit, lanes are relative, have u seen the english?

???

jandrese2• 1 year ago

I understand this is a newer release of the self driving software than is generally available to the public, but it's only incrementally better than the existing self driving suite most Teslas have loaded.

It is interesting to compare the commentary here vs. on Tesla fan pages, where they say the biggest problem with FSD is that there are so few interventions now that they can't improve the data set much from real world data. It's just too good. The only thing stopping a nationwide Robotaxi rollout is those fuddy duddy regulators who refuse to sign off on the clearly superior technology because they're in Google's pocket. It's not hard to see how Tesla is a meme stock at this point.

jesenpaul• 1 year ago

9 years of scamming people into paying for FSD (which I've have since Dec'16). This is what they still release to pump stocks and sell more FSD

sjsdaiuasgdia8• 1 year ago

And the market seems to love it for some reason. I don't get it. Waymo's been doing the robotaxi thing w/o any employee in the vehicle for several years now. Tesla's launch yesterday is laughable in comparison.

jandrese2• 1 year ago

Tesla is a meme stock. Any relation to their fundamentals is purely a coincidence.

golergka3• 1 year ago

Waymo owns the fleet, Tesla doesn't. Completely different economic model which would work much better (economically) if it would work (technically).

owenwil4• 1 year ago

I don’t think this is a surprise to anyone who actually owns a Tesla (I own a Model Y). Full self-driving is just _bad_ in comparison to technology from Waymo et al; it slams on the brakes suddenly for shadows, veers into the wrong lane, hesitates in pretty standard intersections, and doesn’t even understand basic concepts like school buses or trains. Here in BC, it completely ignores the 30kph school safety zones, which seems pretty basic.

My experience with FSD is that while it feels “magic” at times, it’s like a teenage driver that you have to baby sit constantly. It’s genuinely impressive how well it works given the really limited hardware, but if you use it routinely you know it will make at least one weird/dangerous choice on every trip.

Generally, I really don’t trust it in most situations except properly delineated highways, but even then it can be a crapshoot. If you’ve experienced FSD then get in a Waymo, they are night and day different—a lot more predictable, and able to navigate uncertainty compared with what Tesla has built. It’s likely down to a combination of both software and their insistence that radar doesn’t matter, but it clearly does.

I would never get in a Tesla that purports to drive itself, there’s no way it’s safe or worth the risk. I won’t even use it with my family in the car.

I know a handful of others who own Teslas and feel the same, despite what the fans spout online. I generally like my Model Y, but I definitely do not trust FSD—I find it hard to believe that it’s even being taken seriously in the media. Not a great endorsement if even your own customers don’t trust it after use it.

FireBeyond• 1 year ago

doesn’t even understand basic concepts like school buses or trains

Yeah, it would be hilarious if it wasn't so horrifying, I remember watching a level crossing be represented as a weird traffic light that would go from red to off to red erratically, with a similarly erratic convoy of trucks representing the train.

Mind you I remember people claiming FSD was "nearly done" because they'd "tackled all the hard problems, and were now in clean up", and how as a result that meant they could let their FSD take itself through a roundabout, not just straightlining it through. Never underestimate the power of denial.

shreezus• 1 year ago

I mostly agree with you. I use both FSD on my Tesla & Waymo regularly (LA region), and Waymo just feels way safer in comparison. While FSD has improved significantly the last few iterations, I have seen it do "strange" things often enough that I don't feel safe just sitting in the backseat like I would with a Waymo.

Even if it's hypothetically 99% as good as Waymo at the moment, 99% is not good "enough" when it comes to something as critical as driving.

manjalyc2• 1 year ago

A fun anecdote - a lot of people may remember Roomba from forever back with their automated little vacuums. Roomba's market share declined significantly because they failed to adopt Lidar technology as quickly as their competitors, instead they depended on the bumper for as long as possible. This put them at a disadvantage in navigation and efficiency as their competitors started using Lidar. Combined with aggressive pricing from rivals, expiry of its patented roller in 2022, a weird insistence to not combine vacuum and mopping into one device, Roomba (or iRobot now) is a just little fish in the sea it made.

havaloc• 1 year ago

https://maticrobots.com/ - Lidar seems like a stopgap, check out this robot vacuum which works with vision only. I am not conflating a car and a vacuum, but it's an interesting technological exposition.

moogly• 1 year ago

Roomba (or iRobot now) is a just little fish in the sea it made.

Perhaps more like plankton.

The [...] company warned in its earnings results [on 12 March 2025] that there’s doubt about whether it can continue as a going concern.

owenwil4• 1 year ago

100%—I enjoy telling life-long Roomba users about how far behind the technology is when they try to convince me to buy one! I've been using Roborock for a long time and it's pretty astounding how far ahead they are; full on item analysis + avoidance (including poop!) being the big one for us, let alone just knowing their exact location within the house. And there's a number of others that have pushed it a whole bunch... the folks at Matic seem to have pushed it even further (not ironically, with just vision, which actually feels appropriate here) it's a shame it's not available in Canada and no obvious plans to roll out here, would love to buy one: https://maticrobots.com/

Meanwhile Roomba seems to have done...pretty much nothing? Reminds me of the death of Skype when everyone transitioned to literally everything else while they floundered around.

nwienert• 1 year ago

Shift some nouns and this is basically exactly what LLMs for coding are like, except the downside risk is “git revert”

bdamm2• 1 year ago

It's probably also got to do with some magic behind the curtains; Waymo hasn't expanded much beyond their initial regions, so they've been static for years in terms of region. They very well may have hand-crafted expected paths, and obviously as the region coverage goes up that kind of hang-crafting doesn't scale (due to changes in the environment, at least) economically. So we can't really say how much work Waymo is putting into each mile. That's true of Tesla also, except that kind of work is totally antithetical to their entire approach from the very beginning, so it would be really surprising to find Tesla getting stuck in that specific local minima, wheras we can almost expect it from Waymo.

As a counter anecdote, I do use FSD with my family in the car, I also have used it on snowy roads, logging roads, and it does quite well. Not unsupervised well, but better than I expected given that I'm running FSD on a nearly 6-year old car. The number of trips around town that have been totaly interventionless has definitely been going up lately, and usually interventions have been because I wanted to be more aggressive, not because the car was making a major error or even being rough.

misiti37807• 1 year ago

I have had the exact opposite experience. I literally dont drive anymore and I never have phantom breaking problems. Im on HW3

mebizzle2• 1 year ago

I have a Model 3 and it drives amazingly well, in Florida of all places. Ive taken it all over back roads in FL/GL with a little bit of AL and MS as well. The issues you described were much more prevalent when I got my car in '23, and I have genuinely been watching them become fewer and further between as time passed. I've driven at least 10000 miles on it in the last two years and I have only had to intervene twice.

I have no motivation to be positive; I own no Tesla stock or position and just like it because its the best car for me currently. I cannot emphasize enough just how different my lived experience has been from how you describe it.

owenwil4• 1 year ago

I am confident that two things can be true: a) it can be better significantly in some places than others, especially like Florida, which has a lot of large, wide roads, that are probably mapped more than a lot of places which creates a more stable experience and b) Their choice of hardware and software approach is obviously less safe given their limitations, and has a number of compromises that introduce unpredictability vs other approaches.

It definitely has come a good way since I first got my car, but it's still _unpredictable_ and even seems to progress, then randomly regress, between releases. The big one is just navigating unpredictable environments, which is where Waymo is clearly far, far ahead.

In the real world, I think their approach has clearly hit a ceiling and I definitely feel a lot safer sitting in a Waymo than a Tesla, I'm not sure the gap is going to narrow unless something drastic changes.

BrandonLive5• 1 year ago

Today’s “FSD” has its limitations and requires supervision, but your description of it is not anything like my experience even on a HW3 vehicle. In fact, in many years of using Autopilot and various “FSD Beta” and “FSD (Supervised)” versions for several tens of thousands of miles I’ve literally never seen it “slam on the brakes suddenly for shadows” or “veer into the wrong lane”. I’m not a cult member and my next car won’t be a Tesla because I cannot support Musk after the horrible things he has done these last 2-3 years, but “FSD” is phenomenal when used appropriately and with the right expectations about what it is and what it isn’t. And it has improved a ton over the years, too.

The end-to-end solution was a real game changer, and while the previous solution was still useful and impressive in its own right, moving to the new stack was a night and day difference. With V13 finally taking advantage of HW4, and all the work they’ve been doing since then (plus upcoming HW5 introduction), it’s totally within the realm of possibility that they achieve viable L4 autonomy beyond this kind of small scale demo (and I hope some form of L3 maybe on HW4 before long for customer vehicles).

owenwil4• 1 year ago

I can give you a number of locations to visit in B.C. and the time of day for the shadows if you want to experience it for yourself! Hasn’t been fixed in four years yet. It has gotten less frequent in general though.

darth_avocado• 1 year ago

The Wall Street would like to call this fake news.

TulliusCicero• 1 year ago

If the speeding is only going with the flow of traffic, that's not a huge deal imo.

The left turn fuckup is really bad though, as is the instance of the robotaxi dropping someone off in the middle of an intersection after they hit the "drop off earlier" button: https://sh.reddit.com/r/SelfDrivingCars/comments/1liku3o/tes...

andrewmcwatters• 1 year ago

Nah, I want a system that obeys the law. I don't need software breaking the law on my behalf. Waymo has proven that it's an exceptional ride experience when you have an automated driver that is cautious and obeys the law, which is more than what 99% of drivers do in the Phoenix metro. Go count how many people obey traffic laws for fun.

And guess who's at fault when you're caught?

Edit: No, crossing double-lines to avoid obstructions isn't breaking the law. People in the Comma Discord bring up these weird edge cases that are outlined in law, too. No, you're never forced to break the law when driving.

You can downvote me all you want. You're wrong. The police would find you wrong, a traffic law court would find you wrong. People are animals and don't want to obey the law. Just obey the law. Drive the speed limit, keep right unless passing or turning left.

nradov6• 1 year ago

There are circumstances where breaking the law is necessary, like crossing a double yellow line to safely get around a lane obstruction.

duxup2• 1 year ago

"We're at the corner"

Um ... kinda...

energywut2• 1 year ago

Watching one of the videos, the car went 38/39 in a 30, and was the only car nearby. It was not keeping pace with other vehicles in its lane. It seemed like a lot of the roads it was driving on were signed 35 or 40 (it was a lot of stroads), but a few were signed 30, which it just flatly ignored.

mslansn• 1 year ago

If it was the only car nearby does it matter that it went 39 in a 30?

rich_sasha• 1 year ago

Perhaps it was trained to behave like a real taxi driver then?

crazygringo• 1 year ago

If the speeding is only going with the flow of traffic, that's not a huge deal imo.

If it's intentionally programmed to violate speed limits, then sure.

If it's intending to follow speed limits but is failing, then that's terrifying, because where is its wrong information coming from, and how catastrophic could the errors be?

rs1862• 1 year ago

True, but AFAIK Waymo strictly follows speed limits.

dzhiurgis• 1 year ago

Which is why it couldn’t use highways for ages, as otherwise they’d been honked off the road

jstummbillig• 1 year ago

I think there are two distinct types of "bad" here, and to me, one is way more interesting than the other.

If we mean, that this is dangerous: Yes, of course. It's an obvious, somewhat dangerous error (and I say "somewhat", only because I assume currently everyone participating is cognizant of the fact, that this is in some kind of testing stage)

But I think the more interesting question is: How quickly can this issue (and others like it) be fixed? If the answer at this point is "we will have to retrain the entire model and just hope for the best" that sounds, like, really bad.

duxup2• 1 year ago

Do the Robotaxi's use the same software as the regular Tesla "FSD"?

jsemrau2• 1 year ago

I still hold the belief that the removal of Radar and LIDAR in 2021 was only detrimental to FSD's performance.

RankingMember4• 1 year ago

Did they ever have LIDAR? I completely agree that the removal of radar was a cost-cut too far and a decision made with uneducated hubris (his deeply-flawed "humans only need vision so cars only need that too" thought process). If they ever want to actually compete in this space, I expect we'll see one of these (or both) quietly re-added.

freerobby• 1 year ago

No, they never had LIDAR.

lexandstuff2• 1 year ago

It surely means these things will never operate safely in rain, snow or even bad fog. That seems like a pretty big issue for a taxi operation.

socalgal23• 1 year ago

Yes, because somehow humans can't drive without LIDAR in the day or night or rain.

I'm not saying Tesla FSD is any good but the idea that a robot could never drive without just cameras seems to be false given 1.6 billion human drivers that drive with only eyes.

krashidov• 1 year ago

not to mention when there's sun going directly into the camera: pic.twitter.com/liJGSIIHKw

awongh2• 1 year ago

They could still add it later, maybe once the solid state ones become more affordable?

harmmonica5• 1 year ago

One thing is for certain: this will be one of the most scrutinized product launches in a long while. Assuming they're able to continue rolling this out (that assumes no major incidents) we will know every last misstep these cars make en route to a proper "driverless" service (ie no safety driver). Then the question will be whether the lack of trust amongst some members of the public towards Tesla/Elon costs them adoption, or if there are enough Tesla boosters/agnostics to get them the growth they want/need. And then at some point, if those rides with the boosters/agnostics all go well (months or even a years from now?), I would assume all but the most fervent anti-Tesla folks will become customers.

absurdo• 1 year ago

As certain as forgotten about in a week’s time.

I_dream_of_Geni2• 1 year ago

In today's environment, pretty much hits the nail on the head....

sundaeofshock• 1 year ago

You are missing a key factor: Waymo. Tesla has to deliver a product that is at least as good as Waymo. If they can’t do that, why would a person switch to Tesla?

Waymo has a multi-year head start; that’s going to be hard to overcome without a superior experience from Tesla.

harmmonica5• 1 year ago

I don't think I'm missing it. I won't rehash a bunch of my comment history on Waymo, but if Tesla can actually do this, without the costs Waymo has, it'll be quite the coup. And as others have pointed out, Tesla already has all the manufacturing in place and though I'm super doubtful they'll offer a "hire your car out" service anytime soon (or ever!) having the whole vertical offering and using fewer sensors puts them at a distinct advantage from a margin standpoint so they could conceivably offer rides at a significantly lower price than Waymo.

Obviously the "if Tesla can actually do this" is doing a lot of work here! I would not surprise me if they had a crash sooner than later and that scuttles the whole thing. But it's also possible that doesn't happen and this works. Or at least I'm not smart enough to know for sure that it won't.

Zigurd4• 1 year ago

Until they are no longer needed in the vehicle, the safety monitor with his thumb on the kill switch is one per vehicle. Waymo has built out remote monitoring infrastructure, and in car intelligence that enables one remote monitor to cover a large number of vehicles. The vehicles ask for help when they are unable to confidently make a decision about how to proceed. The remote monitors never actually steer a Waymo vehicle. They pick from a set of choices, or they decide to take the vehicle out of operation.

In the short to medium term, safety monitoring will be the limiting factor.

TheAlchemist2• 1 year ago

"product launches" - keep in mind this is Tesla's product launch.

They launched Tesla Semi 8 YEARS ago, and the truck is nowhere to be seen. Not even official specs have been released.

This product launch was for influencers only, paying 4.2$ per ride.

I'm not gonna lie - I hate the world where it's possible to become the richest person in the world, while being a snake oil salesman.

plun9• 1 year ago

You can see Tesla Semis driving around the SF Bay Area sometimes.

njarboe2• 1 year ago

I sure hope robotaxis speed somewhat. Most humans do and they should go with the flow of traffic.

sheepdestroyer• 1 year ago

No. Humans should follow the law, and if they have to be stuck behind a robot that does to do so themselves, so be it.

njarboe2• 1 year ago

America is a common law jurisdiction. Juries determine the true law and you never know what that is until a jury decides. You can make so good guesses though. Custom is the rule so an autocar doing what people normally do is the best way to have it behave.

etchalon• 1 year ago

If you watch the videos posted, the cars are behaving it what I would consider eerily human-like ways.

That's explainable by, perhaps, the data training set, but an "Actually Indians" approach seems more likely (and more inline with the bullshit Musk has pulled in the past)

RankingMember4• 1 year ago

He's essentially admitted as much:

https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2025-06-20/exp...

decimalenough• 1 year ago

Tesla's AI is trained on actual driving data, so it is behaving in human-like ways, both good and bad.

vonneumannstan• 1 year ago

Fascinated by the buzz about this. Waymo seems objectively better in every way on the merits. So is this just driven by the typical Musk fanboyism?

sidibe• 1 year ago

Yes he invited all the Tesla influencers / TSLA stock promoters to Austin and they're the only ones allowed to use this service for now, predictably they are gushing about it and even on the rides with the screw ups they avoid mentioning them in the videos, just other people pointed them out on X

Funnily enough some of the stock promoters were streaming themselves getting to the ride area accidentally using Waymos through Uber

m1018• 1 year ago

I know that Tesla sometimes feels like a religion but there just might be a good time to short the stock. Before going out and saying it's bad software, short the stock first and then ethically berate it. I just did.

It's a 200 pe stock, sales are falling, so it won't have earnings to speak of next quarter. High pe stocks need growth to justify their multiples. Tesla is not growing.

Also if this robotaxi service isn't pulled off the road soon then it will be limited to a very select set of locations. If someone has to sit in these cars to monitor them all the time then Tesla may be losing money on every journey.

This premature move in releasing the robotaxi is certainly stock pumping.

misiti37807• 1 year ago

A lot of people have shorted TSLA and lost a lot of money - See Jim Chanos. I actually agree the price is going to go down before it goes up, but I wouldnt waste money trying to time it

Long term I think they are fine - I think they will have solved FSD and no one will remember Elon's politics.

m1018• 1 year ago

Tesla was actually growing then. This time is totally different.

laidoffamazon• 1 year ago

It seems far too early to say they will solve FSD?

tsimionescu4• 1 year ago

It's funny to think that Tesla, the only self driving company that has no working form of self driving, is the one that will "solve FSD".

Look at Waymo or Mercedes if you want to see what working FSD looks like. Tesla isn't even in the same ballpark yet.

mikestew4• 1 year ago

Good luck with that. Net profits down 71% YOY? Stock goes up 10% on the news. You think it's going to go down because Robotaxi sucks? Someone will be along shortly (as they always are) to reuse a cliche about irrationality.

m1018• 1 year ago

Please buy the stock (again) now to confirm your view.

tonymet3• 1 year ago

profits go down with new strategic investment.

ink_13• 1 year ago

As I write this comment, it's up 8.23% today alone (from ~322 to ~348).

TSLA is a meme stock at this point to which ordinary expectations do not apply. The price is unmoored from what the company does. _By the book_ I agree, it should be shorted, but I wouldn't.

m1018• 1 year ago

What better day to short than today. There is a limit to where the market can whip around a 1tn market cap stock. This is not meme stock 10x downside territory.

RivieraKid7• 1 year ago

TSLA is a meme stock at this point to which ordinary expectations do not apply.

Eventually they do. At this point the bull thesis is still plausible to a lot of investors but this won't last forever.

LZ_Khan• 1 year ago

I just shorted it as well.. 3 days before you.

And I got roasted. Invest with caution.

m1018• 1 year ago

I feel you. I got lucky.. for now. Sometimes you just got to pick the right day as it was better than yesterday.

lern_too_spel• 1 year ago

This premature move in releasing the robotaxi is certainly stock pumping.

It is. Inevitably, when the promised rollout ramp up doesn't happen, there will be another pump. This is not his first rodeo. The only thing that can stop another pump is competitors scaling first, not repeated Robotaxi failures (which I fully expect).

TheAlchemist2• 1 year ago

Tesla is going bankrupt or bought by a competitor at some point and Elon is going to prison at some point. I would be shocked if that's not the case. It's all smokes and mirrors, manipulation, deception and it will eventually come back to earth.

However, there is a little saying - 'Markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent" that you seem to want to learn the hard way !

PS. I'm short the stock - but it's a hugely risky bet that I would not recommend to anyone.

pfisherman• 1 year ago

You mean Tesla will merge with Twitter / XAI, and market cap will soar to $50T on Elon’s promises of “AGI next year”.

addandsubtract3• 1 year ago

We will never see the world's richest man being held accountable for anything in the USA. It could be as illegal as you could imagine; there would be no meaningful consequence. Smoke, mirrors, manipulation, and deception are the basis of the American Dream™

leesec8• 1 year ago

They have 36 billion in the bank and still make 5-15b per year. Is this bankrupt in the room with us right now?

addandsubtract3• 1 year ago

Before going out and saying it's bad software, short the stock first and then ethically berate it.

Wouldn't it be more ethical to berate a company you're not invested in? Shorting it and berating it just seems like you're pushing your position.

itsoktocry2• 1 year ago

Shorting it and berating it just seems like you're pushing your position.

This is the Robinhood generation's way of seeing things: everything is a grift.

If you think Tesla is crap, saying so and backing it up with your dollars is totally normal.

ChrisArchitect• 1 year ago

Tesla Robotaxi launch is a dangerous game of smoke and mirrors

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44300727

os2warpman• 1 year ago

Apparently Tesla has three billion miles of driving data.

How many billion miles more are needed for the computer to not drive over a double yellow line?

Is there any evidence that three trillion miles would work?

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socalgal23• 1 year ago

Waymo is working great with far less miles (40 million?). I use it all the time. And know many other friends who use it all the time and love it.

Zigurd4• 1 year ago

3 billion miles of two dimensional 1080P images is what they've got plus telemetry for speed, acceleration, etc. A lot of the imagery was acquired at night or in foul weather or taken by a camera with a dirty or broken lens.

If it turns out that lidar is necessary, there goes the value of the installed base of Tesla, vehicles. It would be like starting from scratch. Clinging to vision only AV is some variant of the sunk cost fallacy.

If you're thinking, surely they must've thought of all that and have a plan, I'd point to the design of starship and ask, is that ever going to be human rated?

BrandonLive5• 1 year ago

They collect video, not images, along with other sensor and control data.

It’s not a sunk cost fallacy, it’s a technical strategy that is very logical and showing compelling results (though as of yet unproven for achieving robust L3 or L4 autonomy, demos notwithstanding).

BrandonLive5• 1 year ago

Driving over a double yellow is expected and legal in normal driving, such as when making a left turn or going around an obstruction.

In this example it looks like it oscillated between two different routing choices (turning left and going straight), and by the time it decided the correct route was to go straight, it found itself misaligned with the lane it should have been in. Instead of moving all the way back to the right, it kind of “cheats” its way into the upcoming left turn lane. This isn’t something it should do in this situation, but it’s likely emulating human behavior seen in situations like this which appeared in its training data, where people cut across the center line(s) ahead of the turn lane forming when they can see that it is clear.

The thing a lot of people get wrong is that they think the most valuable data for Tesla to collect are the mistakes or interventions. Really what they need the most is a lot of examples of drivers doing good job of handling complex situations. One challenge, though, is separating out those good examples from the less good or bad ones, as human drivers are notoriously bad at, well, driving.

aanet• 1 year ago

Shake my head

If THIS is the state of Tesla's "full self driving" abilities, I would NEVER ride in one of these. Nor would I left my family ride in one. AND I would carefully steer away from any lane that has one of these vehicles running.

(disclosure: long time AV safety advocate; have tested AV capabilities of dozens and dozens of SAE L2-L4 vehicles in the last ~7 years)

comrade1234• 1 year ago

I wish people drove the speed limit but now I have to deal with robotaxis speeding?

I have my motorcycle license and drove an sv650 when I lived in CA. Normally on a motorcycle the left lane on the highway is the safest because people are merging in and out of the right lane when they enter and exit the highway, so the left lane is usually steady and no turning.

So you drive with traffic in the left lane as much as possible. The problem in CA is that you're driving at times 95mph just to stay with traffic. I had a turn near Ventura on the 101 where I had to lean my bike so far over that it was like I was on a racecourse.

Since moving to Europe it's much more sane. There are speed cameras everywhere so people don't speed. When you can predict what every on else is doing on the road it's so much safer.

breadwinner• 1 year ago

Sounds like the software isn't ready for primetime, but they also don't have the right hardware (no LiDAR).

leesec8• 1 year ago

So much hate in this thread lol. Headline could have easily been "Tesla launches Robotaxi, gives hundreds of rides without incident".

They're closer than ever to solving driving at scale. In fact they're the only company close to doing it. Waymo still has less than 3 thousand cars. Keep shorting if you want. The pace of improvement in the last year and a half makes success obvious. I haven't had a safety intervention in many months on just random roads. Cheers haters

itsoktocry2• 1 year ago

They're closer than ever to solving driving at scale.

Well, yes, if by "closer than ever" you mean marginally closer than they were yesterday, sure.

It's a big step, but there's still a ton to prove. The gap between promises and reality is still large. Waymo is still ahead.

I haven't had a safety intervention in many months on just random roads.

No one believes you.

leesec8• 1 year ago

No one believes you.

Fine with me buddy. There's tens of thousands of hours of perfect rides online. There's an uber driver with no safety intervention in 17k+ miles who records every drive. Stick your head in the sand if you want. In fact, short the stock!

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