The Last Egg

by focusedone • 3 years ago

637 194 3 years ago

focusedone• 3 years ago

Fantastic blog on infrastructure at the bottom of the world from the perspective of an IT guy. Super cool stuff!

jitl• 3 years ago

I wonder how much trouble keeping chickens in the greenhouse would be. I feel like some partially agua culture setup that’s closed loop and consumes the compost could work well, but is probably too expensive in terms of heated square footage to make sense.

gnfargbl• 3 years ago

I'd be concerned about the health risks. Poultry can spread a few nasty bacterial diseases to humans, and in a closed and isolated environment like this contagion is surely something to be strenuously avoided.

tantalor2• 3 years ago

Sure but these chickens would be isolated from the outside world, like a lab setting, so how would they come in contact with something that could harm humans?

karaterobot• 3 years ago

I want to know who got that egg, and how they decided. Egg lottery?

kleer0012• 3 years ago

That or planned out ahead of time. Like, there's 10 people and 120 eggs? Easy division.

bombcar2• 3 years ago

I'm going to assume it's like the scene from Don Rosa's Hearts of the Yukon.

https://ibb.co/8rw8VdF

LeonenTheDK• 3 years ago

Always love when this blog is posted. Seeing the day-to-day in one of the least mundane places humans exist is a special kind of interesting.

echelon• 3 years ago

It's such a special treat! I really love it.

jcranmer2• 3 years ago

The author has the same curiosity I have in how the mundane is provided, in perhaps the least hospitable inhabited place on the planet.

mfragin• 3 years ago

I see these and I say "oh yeah, that Antarctica blog that I tell everyone about."

I have always loved reading about people who live in extreme environments. It's also a great topic in science fiction.

Not sure how to explain my attraction to these stories, but as someone who lived for many years in the San Luis Valley ( https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/149599/san-luis-val... ) it's easy to relate.

sixstringtheory2• 3 years ago

I spent a year in the SLV, what a cool place! Great rock climbing, mountain climbing, skiing, biking, at such high elevation. The deer everywhere. Gorgeous weather (usually). Cool junk yards. Some great gems hidden away…

Definitely want to spend more time there.

0xbadcafebee• 3 years ago

Weird they don't stock UHT milk. I buy milk for 6 months and keep it in my pantry. I honestly can't tell the difference between modern UHT milk and mass-produced "fresh" milk (at 2% anyway). They could in theory ship in UHT milk instead of fresh, and stock enough extra to last a few more months in winter. It would be fun to make your own cheese down there as a hobby!

Eating by the seasons is also pretty interesting, I think. It forces you to expand your gastronomic horizons, explore the cuisine of different regional cultures. Some cultures don't use milk (and thus cheese or butter), some don't use much oil, some are vegetarian while some are nearly all meat. There's preservation by fermentation, by drying, by salting, by burying, by sealing in hardened butter. Some just eat a lot of soup. There's really an infinite number of dishes that express flavor, aroma and texture. If you ever get bored of your food, you can fix that.

jcranmer2• 3 years ago

They could in theory ship in UHT milk instead of fresh, and stock enough extra to last a few more months in winter.

From a prior post [1], the no-flight period for the South pole is ~8 months, which really stretches the shelf life of UHT milk.

[1] https://brr.fyi/posts/last-flight-out

ComputerGuru2• 3 years ago

If you ignore the "best by" label on UHT milk, it can easily (safely) last 8 months. Especially if you store it at 32/33° F.

But more practically, there are different types of containers for UHT milk hermetically sealed to different extents. The more expensive kinds can last years. The US Military says 10 months for "normal" UHT milk stored under "normal" conditions [0]. The more expensive kinds can go much longer.

[0] https://www.dla.mil/Troop-Support/Subsistence/Operational-ra...

bitdivision3• 3 years ago

I'm surprised you can't tell the difference between UHT and regular milk. I've tried a few brands in the UK, and there's a clear difference in tea / coffee, and it's particularly marked if you're drinking milk on its own.

Maybe the UK is lagging behind on UHT? Or I'm just buying the wrong brand.

yamazakiwi• 3 years ago

In my personal experience I prefer the taste of UHT over traditional milk. I do however buy UHT from a local dairy.

lambic• 3 years ago

I don't think the UK pasteurizes their milk to the same degree as North America. When I lived in the UK a pint of milk would last a week or so at most, but here in Canada it can last a month.

DoughnutHole• 3 years ago

Coming from drinking Irish milk, American milk already tastes like water. I can understand UHT being interchangeable if the baseline product is already bland.

justsomehnguy2• 3 years ago

mass-produced "fresh" milk (at 2% anyway)

At 2% I would not even bother considering this product as a milk.

tazjin• 3 years ago

I agree that the difference is very noticeable, but it's still small enough that if OP was, say, a smoker they might not be able to notice it.

globular-toast• 3 years ago

I live in the UK and always thought UHT milk was horrible. Recently I spent some time in Spain where all the milk is UHT (presumably because of the climate). At some point I realised I couldn't tell the difference, or at least it wasn't horrible. However, I was only consuming it heated up, like in a café con leche. Maybe that's why GP can't taste the difference?

abawany• 3 years ago

I've tried UHT-processed milk in other countries and agree with you that the flavor is bizarre; usually the stuff is sold in TetraPak containers ime. But in the US, I can't tell the difference in flavor compared to non-UHT milk - Horizon was the first brand I noticed that sells mostly UHT milk products but nowadays, most grocery store-brand milk is UHT processed and it seems fine.

thewopr2• 3 years ago

(creds: I was down to McMurdo as a researcher three times)

I suspect this has to do with space and weight constraints, and probably a touch of old-school procurement practices.

In the not-too-distant past, basically everything was flown to south pole station, so weight was at a premium. Powdered milk weights a lot less than UHT milk. Now they do a traverse to the pole with sleds and tractors, so weight is less of an issue, but volume might still be.

On top of that, procurement may be slow to change. If, in fact, weight is no longer a constraint, it might take years for procurement to change to include buying UHT milk.

MiguelVieira• 3 years ago

Whoa I had no idea:

"To reduce the cost and increase the efficiency and reliability of transporting fuel and materials to South Pole Station, USAP established an overland traverse route from McMurdo Station to the South Pole. The traverse route is approximately 1,030 miles long and took several years of route-finding to prove and to mitigate areas with crevassing. This route is traveled by the South Pole Traverse (SPoT), a tractor train that hauls supplies and fuel using specialized sleds. SPoT tractors ascend more than 9,300 feet along the route to Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station. On average, it takes 52 days for the round trip from McMurdo to Pole and back."

https://www.southpole.aq/activities/station-logistics.html

dredmorbius5• 3 years ago

Even if UHT wouldn't bust mass budgets for the trip, it'd have to be protected from freezing. I don't know what the SPoT capabilities are for non-deep-freeze er ... warm chain transport, but that's an additional logistical hurdle.

Liquids could also pose stability issues in transit, from sloshing and the like.

cush• 3 years ago

Most milk is ultrapasteurized and homogenized, making the difference between shelf stable milk pretty unnoticeable. Good cream-top milk is on another plane of reality.

goodpoint2• 3 years ago

Eating by the seasons is also pretty interesting

Eating by the seasons is mundane and normal almost everywhere in the world.

masfuerte• 3 years ago

Are you sure? Obesity, caused by eating processed food, is normal almost everywhere.

NoZebra120vClip4• 3 years ago

For certain definitions of "almost everywhere", I suppose? Care to define that more rigorously?

Most American city-dwellers I know wouldn't be aware of in-season food items, and wouldn't care either, because grocery stores stock almost everything year-round, so if you're meal planning based on what's in season it's nearly an afterthought, or superfluous. Growing food in the desert and importing it from the Southern Hemisphere really works to blur those lines for us. When I was preparing fresh meals at home, I considered eating what's in-season and paying attention, but that turned out to be a lot of pointless work.

jfengel• 3 years ago

UHT milk doesn't generally make good cheese. It can be used to make some simple cheeses, like ricotta, but the high temperature changes the proteins enough to make most rennet-curdled cheeses fail.

https://cheesemaking.com/blogs/fun-along-the-whey/problems-w...

I've heard that you're more likely to have success with reconstituted dry milk than with UHT milk, but I haven't tried it.

3m2• 3 years ago

UHT milk is terrible. As a brit, when I'm abroad I notice it immediately and it ruins an otherwise good cup of tea or coffee.

olddustytrail• 3 years ago

Really surprised you can't tell the difference between regular milk and UHT. I always assumed UHT was the inspiration for the Dog's Milk scene from Red Dwarf!

aembleton• 3 years ago

Milk freezes well. If they can afford to carry UHT milk all the way there, then you might as well take the fresh stuff and freeze it. Then it'll keep.

ricardobeat2• 3 years ago

It freezes well but will spoil between 2-3 months. Maybe the much lower temperature would delay spoilage a bit more?

ricardobeat2• 3 years ago

It does taste significantly worse than fresh milk if you're not used to it, but definitely better than powdered milk.

And bad news is you can't really make decent cheese out of UHT milk, since the proteins have been denatured by the heat.

mgsouth• 3 years ago

Anchor Full Cream Milk Powder. Powdered, but some of the best milk we've ever tasted. Great for lattes and mochas. IMHO much, much better than UHT. From New Zealand, so wouldn't even have to ship it very far. Expensive, though, ordering it in the U.S.--equivalent of 22 liters is over $50. Popular in Dominican Republic and think other parts of Lat. Am., so can probably get it cheaper.

everyone• 3 years ago

I thought the link was gonna be this... https://egggame.org/

wizpig64• 3 years ago

I was not expecting the last egg to look like that.

cubefox• 3 years ago

I like the blog being called "brr".

beefman• 3 years ago

November?! How hard could it be to supply the station with fresh food once a month?

david2ndaccount• 3 years ago

See one of their previous posts: <https://brr.fyi/posts/last-flight-out>

idlewords5• 3 years ago

It's really hard! Reasons include:

- Ambient temperatures too low for most fuels and lubricants, and out of spec for most other parts of the aircraft

- No hope of rescue if the plane goes down or gets lost

- No reliable way to light the runway. In the past they've used gasoline filled drums, but it can get so cold that the gasoline vapor pressure is too low and it won't light.

- Extreme isolation—there's really nowhere a flight can divert to south of New Zealand apart from McMurdo, which has its own problems

Remember that the South Pole station is just a small structure on top of a featureless high plateau. There are no paved runways, navigational aids, no heated hangars, no infrastructure of any kind to support aircraft arriving in the dead of night. The risk has been worth taking for urgent medevac flights, but no one is going to gamble with aircrews' lives over a bunch of eggs.

PettingRabbits• 3 years ago

I wonder if a one-way UAV cargo plane could make the trip. Might not be worth it for eggs, but maybe something more important.

lmm3• 3 years ago

It's not hard, just expensive. Airdropping supplies through winter was routine until it was cut for budgetary reasons.

JohnMakin2• 3 years ago

And people think we're gonna colonize mars. We can't even colonize the south pole, a much more hospitable environment.

tekla• 3 years ago

The south pole IS colonized. There is literally a colony there since 1956

idlewords5• 3 years ago

A colony implies sustained long-term habitation by the same people; that's not true for the South Pole station, which is a research facility where people rotate out.

As far as I know, the only country to try colonizing Antarctica proper has been Argentina, with a small number of families settling at Esperanza Base (at the north end of the Antarctic Penninsula) and a big fuss made about the first kids born on the Antarctic mainland.

Chile maintains a little civilian settlement called Villa Las Estrellas on an offshore Antarctic island with similar motives as the Argentines. Everyone else just ignores this embarrassing rivalry.

gumby• 3 years ago

I interpret the OP's use of the term "colonize" to mean "permanently relocate to"

mkaic• 3 years ago

I'd argue that we absolutely could colonize the south pole if people were as excited about it as we are about colonizing Mars. I think it's less that we "can't" and more that governments don't really care about it as much.

idlewords5• 3 years ago

It's instructive that none of the solutions proposed for growing fresh food on Mars have been tried at either McMurdo (which is a huge and lavishly outfitted research base) or the South Pole.

This is part of what I think of as the Martian fallacy, the idea that stuff that's hard to do on Earth somehow becomes easier on Mars.

PMunch• 3 years ago

Well some of the solutions have been tried elsewhere. It's not hard to simulate "no stuff from the outside", that's not something you need to go to the south pole to do. There is an argument to be made for the disease vector thing, but even that would probably be cheaper to do in a completely closed loop system somewhere more hospitable.

kgeist• 3 years ago

You forget indigenous tribes in Siberia, some of them experience -70C without modern technology.

AlotOfReading• 3 years ago

The indigenous people of the Arctic have gear that's very competitive with modern kit. I've only been down to somewhere below -50C (where my thermometer stopped), but the stuff I had for that wasn't nearly as good as the fur clothing I've seen Inuits use.

deanCommie• 3 years ago

Well, we're going to have to colonize mars at one point. That's not a debate.

We can't survive as a species with all our eggs in one basket (pun intended, given the context) where a single rock flying through space can wipe out all the gains of our civilization.

In the long term, this will require planetary-scale terraforming.

In the short term, this will require seasonal unmanned supply drops and so the experience will not be dissimilar to McMurdo and Mars Colonists will also be cooking their "last egg of the year"

In the medium term, I have to imagine we will have to conduct experiments with either developing livestock on Mars, or growing satisfactory animal protein replacements in a lab.

JohnMakin2• 3 years ago

Well, we're going to have to colonize mars at one point. That's not a debate.

I don't know why people say this like it's a fact. It'd be cheaper to fix the planet. Even if it weren't, the moon is many magnitudes closer. Also, "terraforming" mars isn't even possible. Mars has no magnetosphere - if you managed to create an atmosphere at all, it would be promptly blown away by solar winds and radiation.

zizee2• 3 years ago

Well, there are a lot of international agreements to NOT develop Antarctica, and instead keep it as pristine as possible.

CatWChainsaw• 3 years ago

Bah, we'll just melt the place and make it hospitable. You know, at the expense of everywhere else. Good practice for colonizing Venus though. :)

ComputerGuru2• 3 years ago

That second greenhouse picture is a nightmare! If it were anywhere else on the planet, I'd say someone needs to trim the tomatoes and give them some breathing room to avoid fungal infections but the low humidity and the carefully cultured environment probably take care of that.

pavel_lishin• 3 years ago

That tomato plant looks like something out of a pulp-era comic book - It Came From The Greenhouse!

sixstringtheory2• 3 years ago

I remember when I first learned about pruning. Tomato plants were way more organized after that!

Before that I was optimizing for growing as much and as fast as possible. It’s fun but it’s a mess.

tantalor2• 3 years ago

What about penguin eggs?

jefftk2• 3 years ago

This is the south pole, near the center of the continent. Penguins are coastal.

pimlottc2• 3 years ago

The penguins are also protected. You’re generally not even supposed to touch them, let alone eat them.

AlbertCory5• 3 years ago

There was a Googler who spent some time at the South Pole station and gave a talk about it. I won't name him here, but maybe he's reading this?

What I recall was him walking around and over the actual Pole and trying to get his GPS to register 90.0 degrees. It wouldn't go beyond 89.999.

system2• 3 years ago

Why wouldn't you name him here?

AlbertCory5• 3 years ago

Why do you care?

earthscienceman2• 3 years ago

Hackers would probably also love to consider that a lot of hardware that has code that depends on lat/lon for internal calculations can have all sorts of weird problems. When you are exactly at the pole longitude can switch from +180 to -180 rapidly and that can be a catastrophic edge case for anything that needs to do positioning.

I had the pleasure of watching an expensive drone crash into hull of a ship and sink into the ocean at the north pole for this exact reason.

DirectorKrennic• 3 years ago

How come you were at the North Pole?

EMCymatics• 3 years ago

How was your food up there?

AlbertCory5• 3 years ago

Since all the longitude lines converge there, that's expected behavior, right?

golem14• 3 years ago

Pablo Cohn, I believe?

AlbertCory5• 3 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBaQtsft2bM

yup. It didn't occur to me that it was on YouTube.

brr-fyi2• 3 years ago

Hah, I also tried this over the summer. Closest I could get was 89°59.9990'S:

https://brr.fyi/assets/misc/gps-01.png

Very amusing to do a few "laps around the world" and watch the longitude go haywire.

kylehotchkiss2• 3 years ago

Hi! Like everybody here on HN I love your site. Have you tried on a Garmin handheld too? It seems like something brr.fyi would pack for the trip

yboris• 3 years ago

Micro-related: A Place Further than the Universe - a lovely anime about four high school girls going to Antarctica.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Place_Further_than_the_Unive...

davidhaymond• 3 years ago

One of my favorite anime series! It is one of my top recommendations for newcomers to anime. I'm looking forward to the long-overdue Blu-ray release in North America by Anime Limited.

geuis• 3 years ago

Thanks for recommending this. It's on crunchyroll and I just started watching. Couple episodes in and loving it.

bombcar2• 3 years ago

various places say you can keep unwashed eggs in a fridge for up to six months: https://www.outdoorhappens.com/how-long-do-farm-fresh-eggs-l...

Unwashed farm fresh eggs last for two weeks to a month at room temperature. After that, you must store them in the fridge. If you refrigerate freshly laid eggs, they should last for three to six months in an airtight container.

However, Americans have an obsession with washing eggs, which makes them not last as long. I wonder if they could get permission to have unwashed eggs.

proto_lambda• 3 years ago

The last flight was 4 months ago, a washed egg probably wouldn't have survived this long.

goda90• 3 years ago

Unwashed eggs can also be stored in a water-lime solution for potentially years. It's called water glassing.They might not taste as good as fresh eggs, but like for an omelet with flavorings, you probably wouldn't notice, and you definitely wouldn't notice for baking, but I guess there are powdered eggs for that.

Symbiote3• 3 years ago

It would be interesting to know where the supplies come from -- do the American ship everything halfway across the world from the USA, or buy things from New Zealand?

bizzyb• 3 years ago

both. (for mcmurdo/south pole) most of the dry/canned/frozen food is procured in the USA and loaded on a vessel in port hueneme for the once a year resupply vessel. "freshies" are ordered from new zealand and flown down on available flights.

dottedmag• 3 years ago

This expedition gives us a peek at the future life of habitats outside of Earth. It makes one very thankful for the planetary environment we live in.

3m2• 3 years ago

There's something comical about having freezers in Antartica, even when you understand the reason why they are there.

progbits2• 3 years ago

Technically they are warmers :)

bacon_waffle4• 3 years ago

The freezers are in the heated main station, however since the "waste heat" from the generators is put to use it's not as inefficient a system as one might assume.

The comical part of the food storage situation is that the station was basically built without anywhere near enough of it. The main "dry store" is in a room on a different level from the kitchen, labelled "Science Storage", and most of the near-to-hand frozen stuff is on an outside loading deck near the galley.

bpodgursky• 3 years ago

Imagine how many fresh vegetables they could have with a miniaturized nuclear reactor on-site!

The limit right now is how much diesel they want to waste. Imagine the alternatives!

marssaxman• 3 years ago

No need to imagine; it's been tried - McMurdo installed a nuclear power plant back in 1962. The reactor proved to be expensive and unreliable, so the Navy removed it a decade later. Cleaning up the mess took another seven years.

MagicMoonlight5• 3 years ago

That’s annoying. It’s the perfect place for a reactor. Infinite heat and running water would make a real difference.

muhammadusman• 3 years ago

This is the sort of content that makes the internet so amazing, someone sharing a slice of life from so far away and so remote that 100 years ago this would've been unimaginable!

droopyEyelids• 3 years ago

How do people deal with zero humidity? Does everyone use a CPAP to sleep?

teh_klev5• 3 years ago

I'm fairly certain the air will be conditioned and inside humidity kept to an acceptable standard.

wpietri4• 3 years ago

From the article: "The greenhouse is a volunteer affair, and it yields enough for herbs and the occasional salad! It’s also the only place on station with humidity! Since the rest of the station has near-zero humidity, it’s a treat to spend time in here."

brr-fyi2• 3 years ago

Indoor air is heated but not humidified. Relative humidity outside is high, but the temperature is very cold, so the absolute amount of water in the air is very low. Bring that same air indoors, heat it up by ~150 degrees Fahrenheit, and the resulting relative humidity is very low.

Hard to measure at such low numbers. I have a handful of cheap consumer-grade sensors with me, and they all report "0%" or "lower limit" or equivalent. I can't share readings from official NSF-owned equipment.

Static buildup is a real issue. It's muscle memory now for me to ground myself before touching any electronics. There's makeshift grounding points (metal tape, metal frames, etc) everywhere. I'm still not used to the little shocks every time.

I humidify my bedroom at night using portable humidifiers. This takes ~1.5 gallons of water per night, which is deemed an acceptable use of water. Most people do this. I can get my room up to ~15% humidity with a reasonable amount of effort. The difference in sleep quality is noticeable.

Frost buildup is a real issue in humidified spaces, given the temperature gradient to the outside, even with triple-pane windows. The greenhouse has no exterior windows, so this isn't a problem.

The greenhouse is kept at ~25% relative humidity. It's the only place on station with infrastructure in place to provide humidity directly through the HVAC system.

poulsbohemian• 3 years ago

I'm surprised the greenhouse isn't larger and/or there isn't significant research there about growing under man-made conditions. I would think for example NASA might be able to use it as a research center while also benefitting the diets of the rest of the researchers there.

shepherdjerred4• 3 years ago

Wouldn't a larger greenhouse require more power and therefore more fuel for the generators? I would figure that's a major reason why.

I was wonder why they don't have chickens somewhere so that they can have fresh eggs/meat/etc. It could potentially be a good way to re-use food scraps, although I'm sure they're already doing something useful with those.

teh_klev5• 3 years ago

I was wonder why they don't have chickens somewhere

It's probably a bio security thing. If these chickens escape into the wild there's the risk of infecting the local bird life with new diseases or viruses that the local population have no defences against.

austhrow743• 3 years ago

If the goal is to research growing in man made conditions then you don't really get anything out of the logistical difficulty of Antartica. The natural conditions are the whole point.

zizee2• 3 years ago

The research is not just "we can grow things", but what is required to do it successfully long term, with significant logistical challenges.

You would also bring value to the inhabitants of the base, so it's not just the gain in knowledge.

krupan2• 3 years ago

I learned that powdered milk makes perfectly fine yogurt and after that keeping some as emergency storage hasn't seemed so depressing

Annebananne• 3 years ago

What a cool blog!

quickthrower2• 3 years ago

Fresh milk can be frozen but I think it is only good for 6 months. And it has low calorific density so probably not ideal for (the south pole I am guessing?)

bandrami• 3 years ago

I remember reading that the range of nuclear subs isn't limited by air or water or power (obviously) but by the need to restock fresh food.

xupybd• 3 years ago

I was going to suggest they do what they did in Vietnam when the couldn't get milk for coffee https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egg_coffee

But then I remembered I'm reading an article about the last egg getting used up.

zerobrainwash2• 3 years ago

Does anyone know how to get a foot in the door for jobs in places like this? Not necessarily Antarctica, could be Greenland or other remote, harsh places. I am a regular software engineer from the EU, would be over the moon to pursue something like this

detaro• 3 years ago

Long-term stays is going to be a lot harder than shorter visits. Need/option for such travel tends to be explicitly called out in job descriptions by scientific agencies/institutes running such things. If you're not at it from a scientific angle, expect it to be technician roles (and thus adjust year salary expectations accordingly)

zerobrainwash2• 3 years ago

What about short-term stays? Is it usually only as a visitor, or there might be volunteering opportunities?

Paul_S2• 3 years ago

Why can't they keep chicken??? Chicken need water and layers pellets (which store fine). You get fresh eggs every day and free manure to use in your greenhouse! I really don't understand why they don't do it.

ciabattabread• 3 years ago

Well, there's bird flu...

Paul_S2• 3 years ago

Not if they hatch them from eggs there isn't. And it's not like they're going to keep them outdoors.

jollyllama2• 3 years ago

Interesting idea but there might be some issues.

I think this would dramatically increase ventilation needs. How many people are on base? Remember, you're not even getting 1 egg per chicken per day. At that point, you're in the chicken farming business, not the science base business.

Also, how long would the chickens last with zero exposure to natural sunlight and cramped conditions? It could be hard on them.

MagicMoonlight5• 3 years ago

That’s literally what a factory farm is so there’s no issue with that.

MagicMoonlight5• 3 years ago

This is what it will be like in a mars colony. I hope I get to visit and experience that one day.

silexia2• 3 years ago

They could easily have a few chickens running around in a small area and have fresh eggs year round. Feed the chickens table scraps plus free choice chicken feed. Gets rid of a lot of the waste.

arendtio• 3 years ago

It feels to me like all the described problems should be something we will encounter in space. If we want to grow beyond this planet, isn't that a good motivation to solve them down here?

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