Abortion Pill Blocked Nationwide Under Order from US Judge

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-04-07/abortion-pill-blocked-nationwide-under-order-from-us-judge

by dataminer • 3 years ago

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quickthrowman• 3 years ago

https://archive.ph/Qx9C7

ryeights• 3 years ago

Glad to hear the decision has finally, rightfully been returned to the individual states /s

lisper3• 3 years ago

[Deleted because I missed the /s]

evan_2• 3 years ago

"/s" means "the preceding was sarcasm"

gerdesj• 3 years ago

EDIT: whoops the /s thing was resolved ages ago 8)

I was hovering over the DV button for this comment but I think you failed to note the /s.

I believe that everyone should have ultimate control over their own body and should have access to the best advice available that is scientifically and reasonably based.

That means that I believe and hope that women everywhere have access to good advice with regards abortion and also access to decent medical facilities.

I think that anything less can be described as medieval at best.

cocacola1• 3 years ago

So much for "states rights", I suppose. I wonder how long abortion is going to remain an issue?

MisterBastahrd2• 3 years ago

As long as right-wingers hate what other people do with their own bodies, probably.

notyourwork• 3 years ago

Beyond tiring.

all2• 3 years ago

For the right wingers it is a moral issue that has a few facets

- a child in the womb is distinct from its mother (according to some, as soon as new DNA starts being produced)

- the only difference between a grown human and one in the womb is time (and their resulting growth and development)

- to stop a fertilized egg from attaching to the uterine wall is tantamount to murder

- to abort said child at any point in time during pregnancy is murder

This places the conservative in an existentially horrifying position; every post conception contraceptive is murder. Those who use them are murderers.

I'd say hate is probably the right word to use.

There is a second thread underlying the vehement opposition to abortion, and that is the disdain for free love. They see it as extra-marital sex, fornication, adultery, and ultimately an affront to their God's commands and design for his humans are supposed to act.

Their opposition is an existential one. To abandon their position would be to condemn millions more to die.

dawnerd• 3 years ago

Abortion isn’t the issue. The issue is people trying to control what other people do with their own bodies.

nomel• 3 years ago

Then, by definition, it's an issue.

Beaver117• 3 years ago

No it seems like an abortion issue to me. You don't see the same advocates for drug use, prostitution, or assisted suicide

HopenHeyHi3• 3 years ago

Doesn't the government/strangers have a right to control your body sometimes? Like forcing you to wear a mask or get vaccinated?

t-writescode• 3 years ago

For as long as:

  * people try to get rid of it
  * it's gotten rid of, people wanting to get it back

cirrus32• 3 years ago

Until a bunch of old dudes die off.

krapp• 3 years ago

You underestimate how many right-wing, pro-life young dudes are out there.

rayiner3• 3 years ago

A “bunch of old dudes” were the ones who decided Roe. Abortion views haven’t really changed since then: https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2011/07/01/1370797... (“But a new poll out today finds that abortion is not one of the issues on which the children are more liberal than their parents.”).

There was a bump in pro-choice sentiment after Dobbs but we will see if that is durable. The public opinion on abortion has been remarkably stable over decades: https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/fact-sheet/public-opini...

HopenHeyHi3• 3 years ago

Ah, well see, by that time you'll have a new batch. :P

threeseed• 3 years ago

There's an opinion piece from NYT [1] about this.

That 64% of Americans support some form of abortion but 63% of Republicans do not. And so states that are purple or red-leaning will see a no-tolerance abortion position being a requirement to make it through the Republican primary.

But that long term it will erode the popularity of Republicans across the country.

[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/07/opinion/abortion-rights-w...

akvadrako• 3 years ago

You're missing the nuance here. A large majority (over 80%) of Americans support some restrictions on abortion too, which is not something you often see Democrat politicians advocating.

It's basically a Democrat primary litmus test that one supports few or no abortion restrictions, which won't help them win general elections.

cirrus32• 3 years ago

Kacsmaryk issued a stay on his order Friday to give the Biden administration 7 days to appeal

AgentOrange1234• 3 years ago

What ridiculous shit.

nine_zeros• 3 years ago

Is this the same pill that women are advised to use after a miscarriage to expel dead remains?

wanderinghogan• 3 years ago

I believe you are thinking of Methotrexate, but I may be mistaken. I know it's used in ectopic pregnancies at least and starts the process of getting the cells out.

tohnjitor• 3 years ago

Medical groups have defended the medication, arguing that studies show it is safer than Tylenol and Viagra and sends fewer people to the emergency room than those drugs

Safer than those two yet clearly ends more lives than either combined.

overthrow• 3 years ago

If you think about what they're doing in context:

- outlawing abortion

- weakening child labor laws

It's pretty reprehensible shit.

anigbrowl2• 3 years ago

This won't impact anything right in the moment since it will be the target of an emergency stay. But I don't wanna hear anything from the 'judicial overreach' crowd, given this guy's record: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_J._Kacsmaryk#Notable_c...

rektide• 3 years ago

According to The Washington Post, conservative groups have employed "forum shopping" in filing lawsuits within Kacsmaryk's federal district against many Biden administration's policies; since Kacsmaryk is the only federal judge in his district, any lawsuit filed there is guaranteed to be presided over by him

Doesn't the link seem to suggest this is a radical extremist form of judicial overreach? The history of this one court, with a single judge, causing endless shit & havoc for the federal government seems about as overreachy as it can get.

He has: denied asylum seekers entry until their claims are accepted. Messed with protections of the Affordable Care Act. Unwound protections for transgender people. And now deamdned denying access to a >20 year old drug.

One of these cases has made it to the Supreme Court so far. But that hardly makes me feel like there isn't a severe issue of activist judges embodied by this Trump appointee. Who is now causing havoc & bedlam within the nation, at their own whim. And that there is seemingly no real way to stop this absurd overreach, that he'll be able to keep doing it, that radical elements will keep forum-shopping for him, and nothing can stop this antagonist anti-rights crusader.

anigbrowl2• 3 years ago

Well yes, that's my point.

evan_2• 3 years ago

this got flagkilled pretty quickly

miles• 3 years ago

US judge in Washington state orders feds to keep access to abortion pill, countering ruling from Texas judge https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/nation-world/story...

Abortion Pill Blocked Nationwide Under Order from US Judge

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