Bespoke Synth 1.0 – open-source software modular synthesizer

http://www.bespokesynth.com/

by paulshen • 5 years ago

745 242 5 years ago

This looks very interesting, checking it out now (download links were broken, but I found releases on github). For people new to this type of software, definitely also check out VCV Rack for a more skeuomorphic take on open source software modular.

marcodiego• 5 years ago

Love the feature matrix.

PaulDavisThe1st27• 5 years ago

"Five dollars less in your pocket". Brilliant!

Jenz• 5 years ago

Haha this is the most amazing feature matrix I've ever seen.

On a more serious note, modular music is an extremely interesting and growing area and just about every module is surprisingly expensive; I'm curious to how well this translates to virtual racks.

412092• 5 years ago

Agreed.

That alone makes me want to donate.

Can it work as a VST plugin ?

yellowapple• 5 years ago

If there's a plugin version of this I can see it giving ZynAddSubFx a run for its money in my workflow.

quantified• 5 years ago

Pricing plan you can understand!

armchairhacker• 5 years ago

I've never heard about modular music, but I know must VSTs are extremely expensive. And they're expensive to even seriously try.

I want to get into music production but a barrier is that Omnisphere and FL Studio are $500 and have a super-limited trial version. As a grad student I'm not going to spend $500 for a piece of software I might be interested in using.

I would much rather have it be like software development where almost everything is free. And instead of paying upfront, synths / effects can make money by taking a cut of your revenue (I don't think that's like software development but it means synth producers still make revenue).

munificent• 5 years ago

Take a look at Reaper, VCV Rack, Surge, Tyrell, Zebralette, Dexed, and Helm.

jasondoty• 5 years ago

If you're not going to make money off it, my opinion is you can use cracked VSTs without any concerns of "is it right".

In fact, as with a lot of pirated soft/media the experience is superior. Licensing and DRM of music software is a headache - dongles, software centers and other bloat. Scene groups like R2R even optimize performance and patch out bugs in addition to cracking protections, making their releases superior than that of the original developers.

Otherwise have a look at Splice rent-to-own plugin licensing.

strenholme3• 5 years ago

I used to have a synth buying guide. For people just starting out I would go for:

• Get Reaper. It’s a mainstream DAW, is fully functional, a free download, and only $60 to register after 90 days.

• Valhalla Supermassive for reverb: https://valhalladsp.com/shop/reverb/valhalla-supermassive/

• The VST fork of VCVrack for a modular synth: https://github.com/bsp2/VeeSeeVSTRack#downloads

I would get a keyboard controller with full sized keys and a 5-pin DIN MIDI out for just over $200, but that can come later.

One thing to avoid is the rabbit hole of concentrating on what gear to buy over actually making music with the gear.

fancy_hammer• 5 years ago

There are sooooo many VST plugins out there. If you don't see the value in the cost of Omnisphere don't buy it. Look for other options. It's an extremely competitive market.

Ableton Live Suite has a tremendous amount of tools out of the box and contains everything you need to make music with. Look for second hand copies on forums. You'll likely be able to pick a copy up for $400 or so. You could buy that and never buy any software again.

And instead of paying upfront, synths / effects can make money by taking a cut of your revenue

Hahahaha, have you asked how much the average electronic music producer makes vs the average software dev? ;)

P_I_Staker• 5 years ago

It doesn't have to be. Logic Pro X was $199 when I got it. GB is free, and pretty useful. I haven't used cakewalk, but it's free.

I imagine there are oodles of cheap DAW(s) that will at least let you sequence and mix everything together. Technically, I don't think you need a DAW, if you're just playing (though obviously that's a very limited use case). I feel like you could even record tracks into Audacity straight from the instrument

There are TONS of great sounding free VSTs and some very good cheap ones. Some of them can be gotten at a deep discount (though you're usually shelling out $50-100+), but the MSRP is something outrageous. I don't want to shill, but you can "rent-to-own" for zero fee now (don't know how many DAWs are available, but plugins for sure.

It doesn't HAVE to be expensive, though there's probably some stuff you'll inevitably be tempted to buy, as with any hobbies. Is dropping eg. $100-500 on a hobby once or twice a year "expensive"? It's also pretty easy to get into and buy things as you go. You really don't have to drop thousands of dollars on tons of software.

You don't have to pay a dime. Don't quote me on this, but I think there's a major free modular simulator that's pretty good. You could get some solid vintage synths, some drum machine/groovebox, and effects for like $50-80.

If you think about everything going into it that's a ton of functionality for your buck, especially compared with traditional hardware synths. I have $3-5k in my rig (plus I buy VSTs), and it's still relatively basic. I don't own a single high end synth, my most expensive would be considered midrange at ~$1200... ONE BOX ... you could buy so much fucking software for that, it's crazy.

BTW almost none of this is necessary for you to experiment and create. You need very little... like 1-5 vsts, some utility(s), and minimal plug-in. I encourage OP and anyone reading this to create if they have the urge. I'm 100% positive you can get into it at any price point. Paying more money won't help you as much as you think here. Much better to keep it small and master one box at a time.

I would much rather have it be like software development where almost everything is free. And instead of paying upfront, synths / effects can make money by taking a cut of your revenue (I don't think that's like software development but it means synth producers still make revenue).

I have to disagree with you there. First of all, I don't agree with this generalization, as it seems very focused on your own background. There are lots of people selling software (including design tools), sometimes for outrageous prices, if it's sought after.

It seems like almost all software is sold. I don't know how this business model is supposed to work. This is how small to medium sized software companies work. They have to sell to as many people as possible TBH, because most of their userbase is going to make $0.

I think your frame of reference is out of wack regarding what stuff costs, because we're getting screaming bargains on soft things (eg. media, newspapers, ect.) This "everything must be" free attitude is really toxic and having some troubling effects. I think it would also be hard to prove what people are using, and enforce this. Even for recordings, but so much money is made live.

Wow, what a tirade. Sorry folks, but I wanted to get that out there.

TheOtherHobbes• 5 years ago

Omnisphere is the last thing you should buy.

There are countless free VSTs that are very, very good. KVRAudio is a good news source for what's happening in VST World, both paid and free.

https://www.kvraudio.com/

There are also numerous plug-in discount stores (Audio Plugin Deals, Plugin Boutique, Emmett VST Buzz, and others) that regularly sell mainstream VSTs at hugely discounted sale prices.

Free DAWs are harder to find, but you can get intro-level DAWs with enough features to get started for less than $200.

On a Mac Logic Pro is $199, which is a full-featured DAW with a solid collection of virtual instruments.

pier25• 5 years ago

In a way, Bespoke is like if I smashed Ableton to bits with a baseball bat, and asked you to put it back together.

LOL

rcarmo• 5 years ago

This seems awesome. I’ve been playing with Bitwig’s Grid and VCV Rack, and it looks like something else to explore.

smt9233• 5 years ago

damn, I've been looking for something similar to Max/PPOOLL but more accessible (especially on windows/linux) after reading about Tim Hecker using it and this seems like it could get to that point

operatorius• 5 years ago

reading about Tim Hecker using it

hey could you please share the link where you've read that. Thanks!

Minor49er2• 5 years ago

You can see it being used here at :22. The original title of this video is "Rewire - Studio Visit: Tim Hecker"

https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t66.36240-6/10000000_...

smt9233• 5 years ago

the other link has a little, it's kinda just something i've seen around in different places when I was super curious about his music and how you'd produce stuff like that, specific ones I can find right now are in random threads[1] and in a red bull music interview he talks about it a tiny bit[2]

[1] https://llllllll.co/t/ppooll-max-msp-networking-system/28352

[2] https://www.redbullmusicacademy.com/lectures/tim-hecker-lect... (ctrl f for "P-P-O-O-L-L")

PaulDavisThe1st27• 5 years ago

I've been looking for something similar to Max/PPOOLL

That would probably be PureData.

smt9233• 5 years ago

that's definitely got a lot of stuff too, though from what I've seen the PPOOLL stuff seems a bit more high level closer to bespoke synth, I guess the ideal thing is something that spans both, though bespoke is one of the easiest to use ones I've seen yet which is nice

112233• 5 years ago

Is there a modular audio environment like vcv/reaktor/max, where I could plug stuff together by typing text, instrad of mousing pips? I honestly tried to get into pd, but it felt like typing book using the character map.

kleer001• 5 years ago

Second vocal vote for that. It'd make it a more powerful tool and be less of a pain at the same time.

Or at the very least some kind of remedial hot key navigation would be great too.

premek2• 5 years ago

sonic pi is not exactly like modular but easier than pd

lgas• 5 years ago

If you like Haskell you might like Tidal Cycles[1] and if you like Clojure you might like Overtone[2].

[1] https://tidalcycles.org/

[2] https://overtone.github.io/

premek2• 5 years ago

there's also ChucK

https://chuck.cs.princeton.edu/doc/language/

yata69420• 5 years ago

There's quite a few actually. The term is "live coding".

Supercollider sounds like what you're after. You can even use vim :)

https://github.com/pjagielski/awesome-live-coding-music here's a list of related stuff

dewert2• 5 years ago

Saw a good talk at PyCon a couple of years ago about FoxDot, which is a wrapper around SuperCollider. Bit foggy on the details now, but it seemed like a good place to start.

pierrec• 5 years ago

Yes, most audio programming languages allow you to create DSP graphs by connecting nodes together. This is often done with some kind of pipe operator (for example, ChucK has the "chuck operator", Faust has a bunch of operators for connecting batches of nodes in different ways).

My favorite approach is in Sporth: because it's concatenative, you don't need any operator, you just type the things you want to connect. Shameless plug, I made a playground for it: https://audiomasher.org/browse

georgeoliver• 5 years ago

thanks so much for the link, that is super cool!

adriancooney• 5 years ago

I actually made something slightly like what you're looking for: https://noise.sh

It's certainly not as powerful nor polished as Bespoke but might be worth a look.

PaulDavisThe1st27• 5 years ago

Here's a list/overview of all things "live coding": https://github.com/toplap/awesome-livecoding

iainctduncan3• 5 years ago

I'm the author of Scheme for Max and Scheme for Pd, open source (sibling) projects for scripting, live coding, and doing algorithmic music and sequencing in Max/MSP, Ableton Live, and Pure Data in S7 Scheme. I work in them using an OSC bridge from Vim so that I have a REPL in my editor controlling the environment entirely with lisp.

Project: https://github.com/iainctduncan/scheme-for-max

Demos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6ftX7yuEi5uUFkRVJbJyWA

johnmw• 5 years ago

You might like this video of Andrew Sorensen demonstrating Extempore (its included in the software list in the sibling comment)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSGKEy8vHqg

thenberlin• 5 years ago

This is incredibly cool. Looking forward to loading it up.

Reminds me a bit of Reaktor's builder environment, but based on that demo video, it seems like a more useable, better thought out version (and you can't beat that price / feature matrix).

Lucasoato2• 5 years ago

I'm a software developer right now but I've worked with DAWs as a producer for more than 5 years. You can't even imagine how frustrating is working with Digital Audio Workstation. One messy plug-in and you can lose hours and hours of work. Preset management is a nightmare, there are so many things that they could do to go forward, but the Sequencer market is stall and hasn't moved in years.

Imagine if they applied something similar to a git versioning system to music projects.... I don't even know if the VST interface can be used or if it's licensed somehow from Steinberg.

Also consider that there are no good audio drivers for Linux (like Asio for example) so you're almost forced to stay in windows or Mac...

No plug-in or DAW has a CLI... I could go on for hours...

I'm doing some digital audio processing for a startup idea and the only thing I've came up with is using sox trough a Python API.

PaulDavisThe1st27• 5 years ago

Also consider that there are no good audio drivers for Linux (like Asio for example) so you're almost forced to stay in windows or Mac...

This is false.

Imagine if they applied something similar to a git versioning system to music projects.

People have done this. Using git itself is a little problematic because it is very line-oriented and most project file formats for DAWs are not.

Regarding plugins, I know that I'm not the only lead developer of a DAW who, if they possibly could, would refuse to support plugins entirely. The problem is that most users want more functionality than a DAW itself could feasibly provide (they also sometimes like to use the same functionality (plugin) in different DAWs or different workflows).

There are things close to DAW functionality that have a CLI (such as ecasound). You can also run plugins from the command line by using standalone plugin hosts. You can use oscsend(1) to control plugins inside several different plugin hosts.

It sounds to me as if you've worked with a relatively small number of DAWs on only Windows and macOS and are not really aware of the breadth or depth of the "field".

dewert2• 5 years ago

> Also consider that there are no good audio drivers for Linux (like Asio for example) so you're almost forced to stay in windows or Mac...
This is false.

This was my immediate thought as well. Not sure what level we're talking here, so sorry if I'm addressing the wrong part of the stack, but JACK on Linux has been a great experience for me in terms of latency and ease of use. I run into way more day-to-day problems on Windows.

What feature specifically are you missing on Linux?

Re: plugins, DAWs with VST sandboxing are great. I use Bitwig, and I've never lost work due to a plugin crash.

wwweston2• 5 years ago

This is false.

Suffice it to say that it's non-obvious to me where to start to go about getting a stable and mobile (ie laptop) experience. I'd like nothing better than to receive a response that makes me feel sheepish for thinking that Linux is the problem, and if anyone can give out good pointers I'd imagine you can.

stevefolta• 5 years ago

Using git itself is a little problematic because it is very line-oriented and most project file formats for DAWs are not.

Ardour and Reaper use plaintext project formats that work well with Git, at least for basic versioning.

Regarding plugins, I know that I'm not the only lead developer of a DAW who, if they possibly could, would refuse to support plugins entirely. The problem is that most users want more functionality than a DAW itself could feasibly provide (they also sometimes like to use the same functionality (plugin) in different DAWs or different workflows).

I think the answer to this would be something like Reaper's "JS" plugins, which are written in a small compiled language and distributed as source code. Compared to "JS", it would need to: 1) be open source; 2) be a better language; and 3) support pretty skeuomorphic graphics ('cause people seem to really want that in their plugins). Ardour seems to be working on something like this using Lua (don't know about the graphics, or if the plugins could be supported in other DAWs).

tomc19858• 5 years ago

Regarding plugins, I know that I'm not the only lead developer of a DAW who, if they possibly could, would refuse to support plugins entirely. The problem is that most users want more functionality than a DAW itself could feasibly provide (they also sometimes like to use the same functionality (plugin) in different DAWs or different workflows).

Honestly the sound quality of most DAWs' built-in effects and synths are garbage. Even the effects section of most VST synths is bad! Best to allow plugins rather than trying to reinvent the wheel; you'll have to pry my beloved serum/iZotope/u-he/softube plugins out of my cold dead hands

Also, the "sometimes" is an understatement. Anyone who's been doing this a while likely to be pretty invested in the plugins they have. I would say the majority of working musicians that use DAWs work this way

rudenoise• 5 years ago

Things to check:

For audio on linux: https://pipewire.org/

For a more code oriented audio workflow (python lib to load VST and AU) https://github.com/spotify/pedalboard

PaulDavisThe1st27• 5 years ago

Pipewire is a layer above most of the really important stuff.

Pedalboard is also not a realtime audio environment (as was clarified by one of its developers here on the HN thread last week). In that sense it is extremely different from Bespoke (and nearly everything else).

Lucasoato2• 5 years ago

I'll never thank you enough for linking pedalboard... That's exactly what I've always needed lol

pandakar• 5 years ago

For you pythonheads, please check out Olivier's wonderful pyo https://github.com/belangeo/pyo

xbpx• 5 years ago

Since you're a software dev you may have explored supercollider and other environments where you can employ great tools. I've been looking for a hybrid UI/UX + Audio programming environment that would combine the freedom of code with the visual cues of a DAW but haven't found the ideal fit. So far I've been rolling my own with cl-collider, a common lisp client for Supercollider which uses some lisp tricks (macros) to good effect.

Minor49er2• 5 years ago

No plug-in or DAW has a CLI

You might be interested in MrsWatson. Even though the development on it has been discontinued, there is still a lot of potential for its use:

http://teragonaudio.com/MrsWatson

grishka2• 5 years ago

One messy plug-in and you can lose hours and hours of work.

What if you run each plugin in a separate process, or does IPC add too much overhead or not provide enough bandwidth for this to be feasible?

PaulDavisThe1st27• 5 years ago

Although we are still debating with some smart people about this (since actual measurements call it into question), this was our (Ardour dev team's) take on this question:

https://ardour.org/plugins-in-process.html

_qbjt6• 5 years ago

Also consider that there are no good audio drivers for Linux (like Asio for example) so you're almost forced to stay in windows or Mac...

ASIO, really? Sorry but you couldn’t pay me to go back to that broken piece of crap after switching to Linux and JACK2. I’m actually traumatized by that piece of software, thinking of moments where ASIO would just break and cause my Live session to collapse into a glitchy cacophony of latency-induced noise. I’ve seen this happen on several computers with different Windows installations and external audio hardware and the problem always ends up being ASIO. Some of the producers I knew swore off anything that wasn’t a Mac because of this exact problem.

The problem with audio production on Linux in 2021 isn’t the audio protocol. It’s that most free and open source audio production software for Linux is dreadful to use. UX is actually very important for DAWs. I want to like Ardour but it’s a miserable piece of software to try to make music in. Feels like a chore to perform any action, kills my vibe, would not recommend. After trying really hard to become comfortable using it, I finally gave up and bought Bitwig. It’s a proprietary DAW and kinda expensive but I’ve been producing music with it for a couple of years and it’s a dream to use - sort of a spiritual successor to Ableton IMO.

No plug-in or DAW has a CLI…

Most people who make music don’t care about this. I’m a software developer and musician who only uses Linux and I don’t care about this. In my opinion, Linux developers of free and open source creative software should spend less time building these features for other developers and focus more on making their software feel good to create with. If I feel bad trying to use your clunky-ass UI to make my art / music / whatever then I’m not going to hold myself back because it has a free software license. I’m going to find a piece of software that gets out of the way and lets me make what I want to make.

sasaf52• 5 years ago

JACK2? Sorry my ignorance, it's been a while I abandoned Linux audio for Ableton on Windows with a focusrite Scarlet. Did they solve that JACK/alsa problem? Without running a2j in the background?

jefftk• 5 years ago

> No plug-in or DAW has a CLI
I’m a software developer and musician who only uses Linux and I don’t care about this.

I am a software developer and musician who uses Linux and I do care about this. I run headless, and control my audio software through custom logic and hardware while playing live. I ended up writing a custom synthesizer and see because I couldn't find anything that works well for my use case

(I'm still open to something else; my synth doesn't sound very good. Designing custom sounds is not something I'm great at or something where I really want to focus.)

PaulDavisThe1st27• 5 years ago

I want to like Ardour but it’s a miserable piece of software to try to make music in. Feels like a chore to perform any action, kills my vibe, would not recommend. After trying really hard to become comfortable using it, I finally gave up and bought Bitwig. It’s a proprietary DAW and kinda expensive but I’ve been producing music with it for a couple of years and it’s a dream to use - sort of a spiritual successor to Ableton IMO.

As I've mentioned above, I get all kinds of email about Ardour, some declaring their love for it, and some much more condemnatory than anything you've said here.

The point is that "trying to make music" isn't much of a description: people's workflows for "making music" vary dramatically. Not many years ago, more or less the only way to do this was to record yourself playing one or more instruments and/or singing. These days, there are many fundamentally different workflows, and countless minor variations of each one. If Bitwig works for you, it's no surprise that Ardour doesn't. There's a bunch of people for whom the opposite is true. You have to be prepared to try different tools and figure out which ones work for you.

Finally, ASIO and JACK don't really at the same level. JACK on Windows actually uses ASIO. The comparison to ASIO on Linux is ALSA, and sure, I'd agree that it's better than ASIO is most ways (though maybe not 100%).

stinos• 5 years ago

ASIO, really?

Havng had zero problems with this (already many years ago, in the days where getting low latency on linux was extremely hard) on a variety of machines but all with pretty decent cards is it possible that the problem has nothing to do with ASIO but rather with crappy drivers / manufacturers? Or perhaps you just had bad luck?

rhizome• 5 years ago

Sox was a significant player in a pipeline I wrote for a YouTube-y company 15 years ago. Worked well enough to (help) get the company acquired!

scns2• 5 years ago

Try Bitwig, plugins will crash on their own there. It even runs on Linux.

tomduncalf4• 5 years ago

One messy plug-in and you can lose hours and hours of work

If you’re meaning from crashes, Bitwig has configurable levels of process isolation for plugins - I guess the trade off is performance, I haven’t tested it out so can’t comment on how well it works.

obiefernandez• 5 years ago

My holy grail project sounds like something you and I could collaborate on someday. Essentially a way to represent a DAW project in plain text so it can be versioned in Git and easy to collaborate on. Happy to discuss anytime obiefernandez@gmail.com

sharklazer• 5 years ago

Been using DAWs for 20 years now. Of course they aren’t changing... what even should change? They work, and do what they’re supposed to.

Most plugins these days are stable, and don’t crash. I haven’t had issues in like 10 years honestly. At least if you’re paying for them from groups who have a reputation.

Git for a music project would be detrimental, going to be really honest.

Linux can run things just fine. JACK has been a relatively stable audio platform. RT pre-emption can help. The only issue with Linux I see is software support. But with Apple making some less than stellar choices, I expect linux to become more important to the daw/digital recording ecosystem

One fantastic one that does work well on linux (reaper) also has a scripting interface. Not a CLI but actually more useful.

_eLRIC• 5 years ago

Discovered a few days ago another nice music studio of the same kind that I really liked : Sunvox https://warmplace.ru/soft/sunvox/

I'll have to try Bespoke as well ...

tlhunter• 5 years ago

Bespoke has some definite SunVox UI vibes going on.

jay-anderson• 5 years ago

Sunvox was my first thought as well. Watching the intro video it seems in bespoke the modules' internals are more visible. Though it's missing the sequencer portion compared with sunvox.

squarefoot2• 5 years ago

Very interesting. A possible improvement could be some "knob linkable objects" (can't imagine the correct name) that could be tied to analog inputs (GPIOs, ADC connected to i2c or USB, etc). The purpose would be to be able to modify certain parameters live on the fly, should anyone want to create a physical synth out of this software and a *PI like small SBC.

Also, I like a lot the way it links inputs and outputs just by dragging the mouse. Does anyone know if there is any general purpose library to do that? I mean, Ideally I create some list nodes, then use that library to link them in a certain order by using the mouse.

capableweb2• 5 years ago

Very interesting. A possible improvement could be some "knob linkable objects" (can't imagine the correct name) that could be tied to analog inputs (GPIOs, ADC connected to i2c or USB, etc). The purpose would be to be able to modify certain parameters live on the fly, should anyone want to create a physical synth out of this software and a *PI like small SBC.

This is usually called "MIDI mapping" or similar and is available in basically every DAW these days.

Also, I like a lot the way it links inputs and outputs just by dragging the mouse. Does anyone know if there is any general purpose library to do that? I mean, Ideally I create some list nodes, then use that library to link them in a certain order by using the mouse.

Something like qjackctl (with Jack, obviously) could do this for you, as you can route things however you want in a drag-and-drop UI.

squarefoot2• 5 years ago

This is usually called "MIDI mapping" or similar and is available in basically every DAW these days.

I'm aware of MIDI mapping, my question was about the possibility to make a stand alone sysnthesizer (with keyboard and knobs) in which the necessary controls would be read from analog inputs while still displaying them on the screen as if they were changed with the mouse, which is not easy to do when playing live.

Something like qjackctl (with Jack, obviously) could do this for you, as you can route things however you want in a drag-and-drop UI.

Sorry, my second sentence wasn't clear at all. I'd love to see a general purpose (not related to sound or any other use) library to allow the graphical representation of structures links (list nodes) together as this software and others do with generators, effects, etc. Ideally, it should operate on the header of a structure which contains the relevant fields for linking to others. When I alter the links on the screen, it does the same on the represented nodes. That would be the way I would build for example a drum machine in which each structure contains also a pattern and I can move them at will back and forth, replicate them, set their own fields (number of repeats, etc). This would be again a sound related application, but what I'm looking for is something really general purpose.

ruph1232• 5 years ago

Another instance where "Linux == Ubuntu". At least regarding the dependency install script which is just a bunch of "apt-get"s. Sad that it has come to this.

runjake• 5 years ago

Yeah, it's a bummer.

But at least its a short install list [1] and its probably not too difficult to install the deps on your distro of choice and fire it up.

1. Deps:

  g++
  libfreetype6-dev
  libx11-dev
  libxinerama-dev
  libxrandr-dev
  libxcursor-dev
  mesa-common-dev
  libasound2-dev
  freeglut3-dev
  libxcomposite-dev
  libcurl4
  libusb-1.0-0-dev
  libgtk-3-dev
  python3-dev
  libcurl4-openssl-dev
  libwebkit2gtk-4.0-dev
  libjack-dev

tomxor• 5 years ago

I'm running Debian 11 and it still doesn't run.

Thought I'd try build it and...

Use the "Projucer" from https://juce.com/ to generate solutions/project files/makefiles for building on your platform. [0]

eh?

https://juce.com/get-juce

Is this really a FOSS project?

[0] https://github.com/awwbees/BespokeSynth

fjfaase• 5 years ago

I am running Ubuntu 18.04 and after having run the script, installing Python3.8 and running ldconfig, it still complains that 'libpython3.8.so.1.0' cannot be found.

codetrotter• 5 years ago

Tbh I don’t blame them all that much. Even as someone who is enthusiastic about Linux and has been a Linux user for many years I find it difficult to support other distros than the one I actually use. And lately I’ve been booting my main Linux box more and more rarely too, as my MBP M1 with macOS is suitable for almost everything of what I do.

So for example when I recently went to describe in a README how to install some software that I’m workin on, I relied mostly on my memory and secondary sources in order to try and give a pointer to users on various distros for how to install the dependencies in question. And for example from what I could find for openSUSE Leap 15.3, both of the pieces of software are/were not in the official package repos at the time so I simply stated that, linking to the relevant pages under software.opensuse.org that told me this, but not having run openSUSE myself for years I am not sure the reason for it or indeed if it’s even completely correct.

I guess there’d be room for some CI service where instead of a specific Docker image like many use you’d instead list the dependencies in a kind of meta format and the service would install the corresponding packages and run the tests across many distros. Then the service could generate scripts or readme instructions for each distro.

At the moment I think realistically in most cases it will need to be that people who run various distros take it upon themselves to sort it out and to submit pull requests to projects about how to install and use on any given distro.

My own preferred Linux distro for desktop is Debian-based too. KDE Neon.

But so, I think it may be worth it that you try and submit a PR to the OP for adding instructions or an install script adapted to your own distro of choice.

Although ultimately, if the software grows big enough eventually someone will add it to the package repositories of each distro and then there will be no need for manually or scriptually installing the deps, because the deps will be specified in the package repos. And for example if you use Arch I guess someone is bound to add it to AUR if it’s there already.

ruph1232• 5 years ago

AppImage works perfectly fine in nowadays. But I would be totally fine if it would simply say "Ubuntu" than "Linux". That is really all I'm asking.

whateveracct• 5 years ago

oh don't worry - someone will Nixify it at some point. Maybe even me!

spindle• 5 years ago

Then you have an opportunity to be my hero!

makeworld2• 5 years ago

Hopefully it'll be fixed! https://github.com/awwbees/BespokeSynth/issues/108

cemoktra• 5 years ago

even with ubuntu its not working cause it cannot resolve python 3.8 as latest ubuntu only ships 3.9 and 3.10

ejarzo• 5 years ago

Really well thought out interface, looks super easy to quickly make a bunch of edits -- The SHIFT+Touch to connect modules is nice and I love that you can always just export the last 30 minutes. Looks like a ton of work went into the documentation as well -- can't wait to dive in!

WillEngler2• 5 years ago

Can anyone in the know compare and contrast bespoke's feature set with Max for Live? (https://www.ableton.com/en/live/max-for-live/) It also has a circuit diagram-ish UI and supports scripting with Node. Put another way, does Ableton already offer Ableton smashed to bits with a baseball bat?

(fwiw, you have to pay for the $1k suite version of Ableton to get Max, so Bespoke could still be a great alternative even if they do a lot of the same things)

andrewmg• 5 years ago

Standalone Max is available for $10 / month.[0] And the similar Pure Data is open source.[1]

[0] https://cycling74.com/shop

[1] https://puredata.info

zwegner3• 5 years ago

I only found out about Bespoke a few minutes ago, but I will say using Max as a programmer can be incredibly frustrating. I've made a handful of nontrivial M4L devices and have run up into tons of weird decisions, limitations, bugs, and plenty of Ableton crashes. (Caveat: this information in this post is mostly from a couple years ago and might be out of date, I haven't gotten the latest Ableton)

The JS support is really weird. It's only JS 1.6 (from 2005), and had weird glitches (like loading two instances of the same device causing the first device to stop working), and I couldn't get the timing tighter than about 30ms. Ideally you could write code that runs at audio rate.

There's also "gen", which is a Max-specific scripting language that is presumably real-time suitable through a JIT. Unfortunately you need a separate Max license to use it, even the full Ableton Live Suite doesn't give you gen support. You can sorta hack around and use it by manually editing the .maxpat files (which are almost JSON), copying from a device that uses gen, but there are lots of weird glitches going this route.

A list of a few annoying things about M4L:

* Documentation is pretty sparse and/or low quality, and weirdly split into two (help and references).

* All variables are global across devices by default, local (device-specific) variables need the prefix "---", which is barely documented

* Tons of annoying UX issues, like entering an invalid value in the inspector just reverts to the old value. You can't enter an empty string for parameter values, that reverts too (you need to enter a literal ""). Certain functionality is only available depending on whether the device is "locked", so you have to lock/unlock the view all the time if you're working with e.g. subpatchers

* Abstraction is quite annoying to do. There's three different types of patches, and it's not really clear what the difference is between them. Creating subpatches and then duplicating them creates two different subpatches--changes in one are not shared with others.

* ...and a ton of other things. I have a big text document of these gripes I was intending to turn into a blog post, but haven't gotten around to it.

Maybe I'm wrong and there's better ways to do some of these things, but overall my experience learning M4L was pretty bad. If it wasn't the only way to do certain advanced things in Ableton, I'd never touch it again.

WillEngler2• 5 years ago

Yeesh, thanks for sharing all this. I would eagerly read that blog post!

I've gotten really into Ableton this past year and I've been curious whether I should get into Max for Live. Being a programmer and looking at their marketing materials, it seemed like it should tap into the right parts of my brain. But seeing your comment now ... maybe not the right move. Especially because I'm not looking to accomplish anything special, I just want a sandbox to play with digital audio concepts.

tomduncalf4• 5 years ago

Yeah Max’s JS support is pretty weird.

I spent some time figuring out nicer ways to work with it in order to build an Octatrack-style parameter crossfader for M4L, it provides some abstractions and setup to make using Typescript with Max a bit more pleasant. Still plenty of limitations but I was able to get my device working pretty well in the end. Apologies for lack of docs!

https://github.com/tomduncalf/livefader

iainctduncan3• 5 years ago

I'm also a programmer, and it sounds to me like you're expecting Max to be something it isn't. It's not meant to be a regular programming environment, it was created to be accessible to non-programmers. But you can extend it with C, C++, Java, Csound, Chuck, SuperCollider, etc.

I will agree however that the JS implementation is neutered, probably because they have to worry about support volumes. This is one of the reasons I created Scheme For Max, which unlike the JS object, allows running in the high priority thread, does hot code reloading, and is open source and can be recompiled to your liking. Now that I have Scheme for Max, I love Max (and Max4Live) to bits, they are a fantastic environment, and I do all the coding in S7 Scheme or C. :-)

https://github.com/iainctduncan/scheme-for-max

serverholic• 5 years ago

One thing I'd love to see in a DAW someday is houdini-like functionality. It'd be cool if there was this node-based environment that went a step further than just generating sound and could generate midi clips, automation clips, etc. and have it integrated into the DAW. Like you could see what was generated in the arrangement view.

mejutoco• 5 years ago

Sounds a lot like Bitwig‘s grid.

https://www.bitwig.com/learnings/getting-around-in-the-grid-...

jcelerier2• 5 years ago

The sequencer I'm working on, https://ossia.io, has a plug-in API which allows that. But no interesting "meta-creation" plug-ins so far for it ^^' at some point I'd like to provide primitive composition-like tools like some of the OpenMusic objects for instance, and there has been work towards e.g. segmenting a sound file with audio improvisation algorithms by an intern.

gavinray• 5 years ago

You can do this with scripts or native extensions in REAPER

  https://www.reaper.fm/sdk/reascript/reascript.php
  https://www.reaper.fm/sdk/plugin/plugin.php

diskzero3• 5 years ago

I like it, I bought it! Lot's of nice features and a tweaky graph UI. Added bonus for implementing the "kissing nodes" connection idiom.

I would love see more prefabs, especially ones designed to emulate some classics synths.

It also might be time to add undo. Everyone (especially me) likes to save it for last.

Keep up the good work!

fivre2• 5 years ago

damn, the audio wave visualization on the wires in the thing that's like the Bitwig grid editor is just BRILLIANT.

probably would be a bit much in a complex finished instrument but that's amazingly intuitive for the building phase, or for reading someone else's instrument.

i wish there a way to translate old Reaktor library stuff into more modern synth GUIs. there's some amazing gold in there but it is nigh impossible to understand between Reaktor's uh... challenging UI and the total lack of documentation for the signal paths to try and explain them to a relative novice. you can very easily see _what's_ built, but god help you try to understand why on your own without adding a ton of scopes everywhere manually

mortenjorck• 5 years ago

The oscilloscope-as-wire idea is one of those rare ideas that seems obvious in hindsight, yet no one (to my knowledge) has done it before, at least in a box-and-pin UI.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see it start popping up elsewhere, similar to how Ableton made everyone realize they had somehow been living without retrospective MIDI capture.

ioseph• 5 years ago

Not quite the same but I love the way the ports in VCV Rack are LED's who's intensity changes with the signal voltage, really makes debugging at a glance easier.

awwbees• 5 years ago

hey! I'm the guy who developed bespoke. I too thought that the waveform-in-wire thing was original, but a few years after I put it in, I realized that I had subconsciously stolen it from ReacTable. there's nothing new under the sun, everything is a remix!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mgy1S8qymx0

smusamashah• 5 years ago

Is there a similar tool for doing graphics?

detay• 5 years ago

Genius work. There are real UX gems here, very intuitive.

MrScruff2• 5 years ago

So this is of course very cool, but I would say that one of the main appeals of a hardware modular is the tactile nature of it. It feels very different to experiment with vs plugging virtual cables in software.

fivre2• 5 years ago

Modern MIDI controllers are quite flexible in that regard. Stuff like

https://roli.com/products/blocks/seaboard-block-studio-editi... https://artiphon.com/pages/instrument1

are designed such that you can easily assign fine-grained inputs on the controller to whatever software parameter you like. Traditional modular required you build a lot of things you'd expect from a physical instrument incrementally, and there's some interesting music that comes from that alone, but it's a real joy to have something you can use to construct, say, lifelike vibrato that responds to multidimensional inputs, without a shitton of work.

much more cost-effective too. you can use a single $300 controller and software to make the same shit that'd require several discrete multi-grand dollar setups if fully implemented in hardware

MrScruff2• 5 years ago

Yes, this is where I came from. I spent a great deal of time building stuff in Reaktor/Max and software is still useful for some things. However dedicated hardware (which granted is an expensive hobby) wins on intangibles like happy accidents, touch and feel, muscle memory. It feels less like working with a computer and more like experimenting in an audio laboratory.

I think with instruments it’s more about what keeps you in the creative flow than anything else. At least for me hardware has been 10x more productive than software in terms of actually making music.

ericfrederich• 5 years ago

Never seen this warning from Windows before. Happened when I tried to download this .msi

Windows protected your PC Microsoft Defender SmartScreen prevented an unrecognized app from starting. Running this app might put your PC at risk.

App: Bespoke-Windows.msi Publisher: Unknown publisher

mastazi5• 5 years ago

It's quite a common sight if you often download installers from smaller publishers. On MacOs you get similar warnings (even though Mac "notarization"[1] works differently compared to Windows certification[2]) Obviously it's up to you if you want to consider the application trusted or not. My rule of thumb for open source projects is that I trust them if they have lots of "stars", and Bespoke has 1.2k https://github.com/awwbees/BespokeSynth/

(but I'm not suggesting you follow the same rule, I'm not responsible for anything that happens etc. etc.)

[1] https://developer.apple.com/developer-id/

[2] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/win_cert/wind...

(edit: added links to Mac notarizing / Windows certification guides)

gtvwill• 5 years ago

Linked it to a mate...he had a wee geez :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFcGtq_dM8k

mastazi5• 5 years ago

While I have used modern DAWs in recent years, the music making tool I've used the most was Jeskola Buzz[1], it's a weird mix of music tracker[1] and modular setup[2] (but not modular in the same way a modular synth works, you connect "machines" such as sequencer->generator->effect->[more effects]->mixer).

This was when I was a "poor" student and I couldn't spend money on music.

Later I could afford real modular/semi-modular synths and I enjoy them a lot but I still appreciate being able to connect cables on a screen where you can save the state and rapidly recall it, rather than having to free up a table, setup all the modular synths, connect them together etc. - So I think I'm going to enjoy Bespoke Synth a lot.

Another alternative that I have enjoyed is VCV Rack[3] and its little brother for iPad/iPhone miRack[4].

PS I loved the "Feature Matrix" on the Bespoke home page ahah :-D

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeskola_Buzz

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_tracker

[3] https://vcvrack.com/

[4] https://apps.apple.com/us/app/mirack/id1468259834

oidar• 5 years ago

Buzz was my first "DAW" too. I immediately thought this kinda looked like what the buzz patching area might look like had development continued to now. I'm on mac now, but the thing that reminds me of Buzz the most currently is SunVox which is free. I haven't played with it in ages, mainly b/c I use live now. Did you spend any time in the tracker communities when Buzz was around? I was on em411 in various guises. Nothing like that community online now - too much noise everywhere.

mastazi5• 5 years ago

I have tried SunVox on the iPad, it's a very nice application.

On tracker websites I used to be mastazi just like my HN username, but I never released my own music I think. However I made a CD and gave it to friends, I might still have a copy somewhere at my parents' home in Italy. That's the only memory I have, because I lost all of my Buzz project files in a HD failure many years ago.

The modern web is different from what we have back then, but if you look hard enough you can still find corners of the web that look familiar :-)

nikki93• 5 years ago

There's also NerdSEQ: https://xor-electronics.com/nerdseq/ + actual Eurorack modules! :D I like the Ableton clip style main view in NerdSEQ which allows you to live mix and match patterns, haven't come across as good a flow for that in regular software sequencers, especially ones that let you do chains of patterns of different lengths and polyrhythm them, while having some of them be automation parameters for some part of the DSP and others notes for other parts of the same chain (Buzz, Buze, SunVox kind of let you do that).

mastazi5• 5 years ago

Yes! Thank you for reminding me how it's called! I remember seeing it some time ago and it's absolutely in my wish list!

sandos• 5 years ago

Wow, talk about a flash from the past! I was super-into jeskola buzz, I also worked with game development of very small games (<400KiB) and we wanted better sound effects in those, so I basically developed a softsynth that was very similar to jeskola buzz! I mean, it was sort-of horrible but it did produce some very interesting sounds with tens or hundreds of bytes in data size, which was a hugh improvement.

tomduncalf4• 5 years ago

Yes Buzz! Absolutely loved that software. So powerful and esoteric yet fairly easy to use (if you were familiar with trackers at least).

It was a shame there was the whole thing of losing the source code that killed development for years, and that it never made the leap to cross platform, otherwise I’m sure I’d still use it today!

Have you tried Drambo on iOS? I guess in some ways it’s the closest thing I’ve found to Buzz, in that it operates at the same level of “granularity” in terms of the modules, and in that it has sequencing (step based in this case, though piano roll is coming) built in. It’s easily my most used iOS music making app these days, really brilliant bit of software.

MiRack is also really fun, although I find dealing with the myriad UIs for each module a bit challenging sometimes (though it is a fun touch!) - Drambo has a much more standardised layout for each module (like how Buzz was just sliders IIRC).

mastazi5• 5 years ago

It was a shame there was the whole thing of losing the source code

Yes, I can remember that very well! Eventually Oskari rebuilt the app basically from scratch, using .NET (at least IIRC) and that's what you get today if you go to the site and download it. It's not the original app but it maintains the same API for modules. Oskari nowadays is a researcher and he published some interesting articles: https://arxiv.org/abs/1407.5042

Have you tried Drambo on iOS?

Nice, thank you! I had never heard of it but after watching a couple of YouTube videos I decided I'm going to download it

ChuckMcM• 5 years ago

This is awesome! It looks a bit like the love child between Visio and GNU Radio Companion re-spun for audio frequencies :-). I found the explainer video linked to the github repo[1] as a good way to figure out what its doing.

[1] https://github.com/awwbees/BespokeSynth

Aeolun• 5 years ago

This is very similar to a modular synth that I used in university.

tomcam• 5 years ago

Bought it based on the feature matrix, which is worth $15 for honesty\comedic value alone. Probably no time actually to use it

onionisafruit• 5 years ago

Probably no time actually to use it

That describes every music related purchase I’ve made in the past 20 years. I’m glad I’ve done a small part to support some creative people, but aside from that I’ve got a bunch of pedals I’ve used once.

raffraffraff• 5 years ago

Haha. I love that. Fuck it I'm gonna buy it too!

I played piano for 9 years as a child, and then stopped when I went to college (because no piano). But I taught myself to play guitar in (boredom + found guitar and music know-how). But I'm in my mid 40s now and have done very little musically in 20 years. I really really really want to play more music, but I'll probably end up saying that on my deathbed (in past tense). Maybe downloading this thing and plugging a guitar or piano up to a computer will change that.

OhHiMarkos• 5 years ago

I'm in the exact same situation as you (played piano for years, then stopped, and now want to get back to it).

The only difference is that I have a few keyboards at my disposal, but again, I don't touch them... I need to get back at playing and creating music.

Amir6• 5 years ago

I love the pricing scheme! I would certainly be paying for the top tier if I were a user.

Good luck

MadWombat• 5 years ago

Paid my $15. Great effort. A bit cryptic, but a nice deviation from a standard DAW experience. A bit weird how a lot of things you would expect to be separate modules are combined (like LFOs are created by right clicking on parameters and filters are buried somewhere under "effect chain" module. Naming is a tad weird as well. LFO is LFO, but VCO is a sig gen. I get that it is not really "voltage controlled" but it has been an industry standard naming for decades. I will definitely play more with it and hope it matures.

PaulDavisThe1st27• 5 years ago

Inside of similar-ish computer environments (CSound, SuperCollider, Chuck, PureData), these things have been known as "gens" (short for generator) for at least as long as [ EDIT: digital synthesis ] has existed (since it dates back to Max Miller and the origin of the MusicN language family).

[ I edited it because I realized that VCO's actually go back to about 1910 ]

adultSwim2• 5 years ago

It looks like the Linux Makefile is included in .gitignore

Linux build instructions would be great. I wasn't able to get the binary running on Debian 11 due to library version differences.

makeworld2• 5 years ago

Not sure how to get it running on Arch Linux either. Opened an issue for this: https://github.com/awwbees/BespokeSynth/issues/108

sydthrowaway2• 5 years ago

How do GUI DAW's compare against pure code approaches?

Are there any artists today working with pure code?

chefandy2• 5 years ago

Surely there are some— every artist has a different process. But I doubt there are many.

I'm less of an audio artist than a visual artist (which I do professionally to some extent) but I imagine the reasons are similar to why few people make visual art using scripts and imagemagick or some similar workflow.

Most creative output is birthed in a more freeform state of play, to some extent, rather than being reasoned about and assembled like code. Coding itself can be playful, but when your goal is expressing emotions and ideas in art, having to pipe that through a rigid, logical process is much less expressive than grabbing something, even a virtual something, and making some sort of gesture with it. So unless you're trying to express something algorithmic, code is a layer of abstraction that operates in a very different way with persnickety bounds that just aren't useful in most creative expression.

I've done generative design using action script in Photoshop and made some really cool algorithmic photo collages, but even as a long-time developer, the frequency with which I think "this could look cool if I set up a function to do it like this" is pretty rare.

sydthrowaway2• 5 years ago

Interesting perspective. I also think of OpenSCAD vs a tool like Solidworke. The latter is far more popular

megameter• 5 years ago

I think all the arts eventually gain a calculated precision to them, just at different stages of the process. With music, structure arrives at the very beginning: rhythm and harmonic structure have some concrete rules to make them cohere. Likewise, visual arts usually require taking measurement from a reference to build up proportionate construction; if it's a cartoon this tends to be redefined into a composite of simple mathematical ratios of primitives, while a more realistic look develops from something more measured and scientific in nature(using a proportionate divider really is lab work).

Once you get past the preliminaries, play can begin...except, you can usually return to structure by adding another layer of it. Harmonization principles in music have layers of structure to them, and "expressive" pop harmony can often be seen as a very calculated thing of crafting maximal tension and release in a short period. Likewise, you can definitely go in the direction of technical visuals, either with detailed illustration or computer renderings. Often there's a desire to digitally emulate analog workflows without literally using those workflows, which results in some additional technical considerations around achieving that.

I think this is how all content creation software eventually grows into a spaceship panel UI - even if you have a specific thing in mind for each process layer and can reduce it to a preset or template, you have to configure the software to get there.

peterfield• 5 years ago

One more tool to play with - cool.

https://non.tuxfamily.org/

http://openavproductions.com/

https://kx.studio/Applications

https://www.renoise.com/

https://www.giadamusic.com/

https://github.com/jackaudio/new-session-manager

molotovbliss2• 5 years ago

Avid tracker musician here from days past. ReNoise, is one of the purchased license holders I'm proud to promote. +ReNoise

Also, add this to your list. :-) * https://www.kvraudio.com/product/4klang-by-alcatraz

molotovbliss2• 5 years ago

http://4klang.untergrund.net/ specific details about 4klang for those curious.

officeplant4• 5 years ago

Renoise is forever the best bang for my buck I've ever gotten out of a DAW.

yojo• 5 years ago

Reminded me of SunVox: https://warmplace.ru/soft/sunvox/

bodge50002• 5 years ago

Renoise has been my "daily driver" for a good number of years now, but I'm looking at getting into more modular or programming (like live coding, but without the live bit) stuff as I want to be doing more generative stuff.

Still, can 100% recommend renoise for what it is, and more, and I doubt I'll ever fully stop using it

schmorptron• 5 years ago

what are you using nowadays?

grae_QED• 5 years ago

five fewer dollars in your pocket
fifteen fewer dollars in your pocket

Definitely gave me a chuckle

bambax2• 5 years ago

Funny, but incorrect?

Bespoke Plus is $5 and Pro is $15; there should be no check in the $5 line for Pro, OR if both lines are checked, the second line should be $10 and not $15.

As it is it means Pro is $5+$15=$20.

Lurkars• 5 years ago

It depends a bit on interpretation: if you pay 15, you of course have also 5 fewer in your pocket, so the 5 fewer can be included in the 15 fewer, than it's correct.

y4mi• 5 years ago

i disagree.

what you propose wouldn't make sense in my opinion, as its basically two consecutive boolean declaration

    $5 less = pocket - paid <= pocket - 5
    $15 less = pocket - paid <= pocket - 15

boomlinde• 5 years ago

$15 less in the pocket is at least $5 less in the pocket.

mekkkkkk• 5 years ago

  const originalDollars = 30;
  const myDollars = originalDollars - 15;
  const fiveDollarsLess = myDollars <= (originalDollars - 5);
  const fifteenDollarsLess = myDollars <= (originalDollars - 15);
  console.log(fifteenDollarsLess && fiveDollarsLess);
  // true

bambax2• 5 years ago

Replies and downvotes mark a strong disagreement. So okay, my interpretation is not mainstream, but I still think it's a possible interpretation.

The difference in interpretation comes from the nature of "features": are they actions or verifications? A verification is (usually) idempotent / has no consequence on the state of the world, but an action isn't.

I read the lines as "takes $x from your pocket".

nxpnsv• 5 years ago

The most compelling pricing box I have seen so far!

lunarpunk• 5 years ago

Incredibly cool. What is the visualisation in the background called?

qwertox• 5 years ago

17 MB installer...

I've just installed it and wanted to try this Python live-coding but it crashes when loading the example file.

This looks all so promising, it could well be what I've been waiting for for years.

bravura• 5 years ago

Is there a headless mode, for synthesizing sounds and performing FX, from an API? Or is this like 99.9% of music software that the authors assume only a human will be the user?

I've been doing research on music AI, inverse synthesis, and the like, and shockingly few open-source software packages were usable for creating training sets.

chrislo2• 5 years ago

There's a scripting interface[1] which might help you do some of what you want, but I'm not sure if patches can be run headless.

If you haven't seen them already, SuperCollider, Chuck, PD, Faust and/or the Web Audio API might be better suited to generating training sets in an offline fashion.

[1]

bodge50002• 5 years ago

modular + live coding in a single environment sounds fantastic! To be honest even just another modular based DAW excites me at the moment, VCV is fantastic but like with traditional DAWs theres many different ways to break an egg

Adduh• 5 years ago

I love the business model!

sigg3• 5 years ago

As a total amateur this is mind-blowing :D

Can't wait to play around with it!

jmaclabs• 5 years ago

I'm sorry I'm late to this 10 year project - but I'm glad I'm here now. Congrats on the 1.0.0 release!

davidandgoliath• 5 years ago

Friday, please come sooner.

themusicgod1• 5 years ago

It's NSA/Microsoft walled garden only. This isn't open source - github does not count as open source.

Splendor• 5 years ago

You're using the term "walled garden" incorrectly. A public repository is the opposite of a closed ecosystem.

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