Yelp Fired a Single Mother Today: Me

https://medium.com/@jaymeesenigaglia/yelp-fired-a-single-mother-today-me-fe9c87e71be9

by aestetix • 10 years ago

155 105 10 years ago

moonshinefe2• 10 years ago

I was going to critique her for taking on an unsustainable living situation. But by the end of that post, just wow.

Yelp is a large company with a lot of resources, the way they treated this woman is despicable, especially after a family tragedy like that. It's not like they'll be going out of business if she took some time off to be a human being and care for her family.

I don't use Yelp as I've heard many other negative things about them and don't see a need to, but after reading this, I'll actively avoid them and tell others to.

clockwerx• 10 years ago

I wonder how she was employed, vs https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sick_leave#United_States

cpks• 10 years ago

Boyfriend in hospital doesn't qualify as 'sick leave.' FMLA is very narrow. I've been down a similar hole once in my life before. I was sickened and shocked. One emergency in my whole life. Nominal top employer. Senior position there. Zero support.

haffla• 10 years ago

Wow. I did not know that. This is actually something that would keep me from relocating to the U.S.

raarts2• 10 years ago

To me, the only difference between this woman's work environment and slavery, seems the lack of chains.

b66• 10 years ago

Please clarify for me. You're saying working at Yelp in 2016 is similar to life, e.g., as a rower on a slave ship?

loktarogar• 10 years ago

If you think the only slavery is the kind with heavy manual labor, you're minimising the hardships that many slaves have gone through. All slavery is bad. Some is worse.

fareesh• 10 years ago

I believe the comment is an obvious hyperbole to convey the author's contempt for Yelp. I could be wrong.

raarts2• 10 years ago

No, I did not mean the harsh physical conditions, I mean the lack of control over your own life. This employer seemed to 'own' her much more than I would consider reasonable. It's not legal ownership, but the outcome seems practically the same.

diskcat3• 10 years ago

And of course the fundamental fact that she chose to work here and that a slave did not have a choice, except to not obey his master and be beaten or murdered.

sgift• 10 years ago

A slave could have chosen not to work and would have been beaten. She could have chosen not to work and wouldn't have been able to feed herself and her children. To me this looks like a situation which is at least related. Not exactly the same, but not completely different.

b66• 10 years ago

Yelp didn't make her move, or make her take out high-interest loans, or promise any certain job stability based on performance. It isn't relevant to Yelp that she's a single mother. And on and on and on. So much of what is written here seems to be failure to take responsibility for questionable decisions and irrational expectations.

Zafira• 10 years ago

Companies are run by people and exist because they have value to people. Entitlement or not, it is extremely distressing to see people argue that the employees of companies are not worthy of a little bit of sympathy by their own coworkers.

b66• 10 years ago

I'm sorry if that's how I came across. I'm not arguing against sympathy. I'm arguing against misplaced blame.

moonshinefe2• 10 years ago

Isn't that attitude the issue at hand though? Large corporations (this one has north of 3k employees and is pulling in hundreds of millions in revenue) shouldn't be able to treat their employees like replaceable trash instead of human beings to save a few bucks.

Ironically, if I had a family tragedy and asked for leave at the small company I work for that makes very few profits, they'd give me the thumbs up instantly. You'd think the super rich corporations would have an easier time accommodating that, but some of them just refuse if it means a few bucks out of the pocket of John Q Millionaire.

This is precisely why our parents' generation had far more robust unions: they got paid higher wages, and got treated with a lot more dignity over it. Even if unions weren't perfect, they prevent a few millionaires at the top from stomping all over the little people.

diskcat3• 10 years ago

They are not treating employees like replaceable 'trash'. They are treating employees like replaceable workers.

And this relationship goes both ways. Employees can treat their employers as replaceable. Although I haven't seen an equivalent loaded word for 'trash' in this scenario.

And there is no reason to believe that the only reason she was fired was because she wanted days off. Based on her own testimony, which is the best version of the events for her, she had many times used leaves to care for her children and put her manager in a 'difficult position'. So she would have been marked as a bad employee.

As for the union. A union of sellers of anything is called a cartel and is illegal, but if it's a union of sellers of labour then it is suddenly the shining beacon of equality. The only real difference is that union of sellers have way more voting power.

aikah• 10 years ago

they got paid higher wages, and got treated with a lot more dignity over it

This. But I guess working conditions will need to go back to early 20th century ones for people to find out how low can things go without bargaining power.

pliny• 10 years ago

Large corporations (this one has north of 3k employees and is pulling in hundreds of millions in revenue)

The statistic 'revenue' is well chosen to support your point, because they also posted a net loss in 2015, and 2013, and 2012 and 2011, all in the order of tens of millions of dollars, so while they have a lot of receipts they don't actually have any spare cash.

Companies, big or small, have some quota of instances where they can engage in charity instead of business (that is, make decisions on the basis of their humanitarian value rather than how much they increase net revenue), sometimes they literally engage in charity outside of the company (sponsoring good causes) and sometimes they engage in charity inside the company.

However, if they exceed their quota, they go bankrupt, and then they are incapable of engaging in any future charity and also everyone who works for them gets fired. Companies who consistently lose money (like Yelp) have a lower quota for charity than companies who consistently post profits.

prostoalex3• 10 years ago

Would she be offered such position if the company didn't "treat their employees like replaceable trash instead of human beings to save a few bucks"?

Performance-based sales in any industry (Internet ads, Yellow pages ads, timeshares, used cars) are known for high pace and high turnover. Companies are quick to hire, but also quick to fire.

If you told the company they were entering a long-term relationship with an employee, and it wouldn't be that easy to get rid of them, the employer would suddenly get very selective, and the candidate would probably have to show years of past sales experience, recommendations from previous employers, go through a few rounds of interviews, etc.

rootlocus4• 10 years ago

This is the first time on HN I'm actually sad I don't have enough karma to downvote a post.

"It isn't relevant to Yelp that she's a single mother". There are so many things wrong with this statement that I can't even begin to answer. To quote something I found yesterday:

“The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.”

b66• 10 years ago

Please help me understand your point of view.

shubhamjain• 10 years ago

This sounds like manipulating the circumstances so it only benefits the organisation. When tech companies are having hard time, they expect employees to put extra hours because "you are a part of a team and you have to save the ship". When company is doing better, they expect employees do their job and their circumstances are not their responsibility.

jkot2• 10 years ago

I am not excusing Yelp, but in most countries this is fire-able offense. In EU my friends were in similar situation and they had to go to work. She got half-day off on very short notice..

timthorn2• 10 years ago

in most countries this is fire-able offense.

Really? The UK provides employment protections for this kind of incident, and we're not the most eager participant in the EU Social Chapter.

SideburnsOfDoom2• 10 years ago

It depends on what job in the UK. In the office IT jobs that most HN readers have, you'd get the time off without questions, and likely a sympathy card from the team too.

As a packer on a zero-hours contract in an Amazon shipping warehouse? I don't know for sure but my gut feeling is "hell no, you'd be let go!"

jkot2• 10 years ago

One more time I do not agree with Yelp, and I think its not good what they did.

I live in Czech Republic, it is post-communist country with protective work law, for example employer must give 3 month notice when someone is fired. Law specify long list of reason for taking a leave (children sick, wedding, funeral, blood donation, even looking for new job)...

But her boyfriend is not dependent on her (and is not even relative). It is very different when children are in hospital.

nrinaudo3• 10 years ago

I don't know about the rest of EU, but I currently work in France and I'd be shocked if someone were fired because they took half a day off with little to no notice for serious health or family reasons. If anything, the company would be sued in a heartbeat and almost guaranteed to lose.

I worked in the UK for a few years, and have had to take days off with no notice - to attend a funeral, say - and no one even thought about criticising me for it, let alone fire me. That might have been because it was a Japanese company though, I can't really tell.

I also worked in Germany for a while, and a co-worker found himself in a similar position. The company made a point of reminding him that this was not how the rules went before sending him off with instructions not to be back until the situation was resolved.

I don't know which part of EU your friend worked in, but I wonder if your generalisation might not be a bit too broad.

mnml_2• 10 years ago

I live in France, in most companies you don't get to finish your trial period if you are out of the office. However for a low pay job like this one, you don't get a 3x2 mnth trial.

ktRolster5• 10 years ago

It's hard to know what happened without hearing both sides of the story.

In this case, what we can guess it looked like from her manager's point of view was: she kept taking days off, with excuses that didn't seem to make sense (can't find car keys), and now she wants to take three more days off.

Without trying to blame anyone, I feel bad for her and hope her boyfriend recovers.

prostoalex3• 10 years ago

or family reasons

Well, this is protected by law in the US, resulting in a similar guaranteed win if sued, the caveat being "boyfriend" not included under "family".

nudpiedo• 10 years ago

Despite the nice try of some SV companies the lack of labor rights in the US is a well known and well documented issue; unfortunately no new here.

free2rhyme214• 10 years ago

Yelp sucks. They deleted my review and I found out the business owner was paying them money. I'm switching to foursquare.

crdb2• 10 years ago

while being pitched ads for my brand new vocal studio in the South Bay
took out a loan with 300% interest to move to SF to begin training December 1st at Yelp
pays $2500 in rent (I make 2k a month so YES, my family has to help and I am so sorry to burden them), pays $1200 a month in daycare

I do not understand.

Why would someone take a loan (at a ridiculous interest rate) to move to a situation with higher rent (let alone cost of living) than salary, especially with kids in tow, especially in a country with at-will employment, especially having just started a new business? What was the upside that would be worth so much stress and risk?

PaulRobinson3• 10 years ago

For similar reasons people take out tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands in loans to go to college: a promise of a better future, a little bit of risk and debt now for a life-changing career, and a better future for her children.

It's quite possible she was sold the position on the basis of "well, in 3-6 months time, we'll reevaluate and get you up the ladder".

She may have seen it as a life-changing opportunity with some risk for a few months.

It annoys me that you are focusing on the things she did "wrong" rather than asking whether Yelp is culpable for some of the blame here.

Is it acceptable for somebody to be fired for wanting to take three days unpaid leave to deal with a loved one in ICU? Never mind the other points she raises: this alone is terrible behaviour.

jonesb63• 10 years ago

I don't understand how we can assign culpability after only hearing one side of the story though..

crdb2• 10 years ago

people take out tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands in loans to go to college

I also do not understand this when there are many cheap or free options [1] in the US, and most private colleges have excellent scholarship programs (i.e. free rides) for those smart enough, but not rich enough to attend (much better than anything in Europe). Especially when the cost of education has skyrocketed and its payoff is so low - hell, I usually ignore the education part of the CV when hiring.

Having the right to live and study in the US, being eligible for these opportunities is a treasure by global standards (even if some European countries have it a bit better). But that's a separate discussion.

It annoys me that you are focusing on the things she did "wrong" rather than asking whether Yelp is culpable for some of the blame here.

This position you implied for me, but it was not what I was stating. I am attempting to understand the reasons behind the displayed pattern of decision making (and you indeed provided a plausible explanation), not passing any kind of moral judgment.

[1] quick Google: http://www.thebestschools.org/magazine/tuition-free-colleges...

johnloeber• 10 years ago

Not to distract from the content of the piece, but she took a 300% loan? THREE HUNDRED PERCENT? Could she have gotten a better loan? I'm under the impression that most banks offer loans at more reasonable rates.

Also, how is Yelp able to retain salespeople in the Bay Area if they pay only $2k/month? The salary is clearly under the cost of living.

On topic: please don't let all the particularities of this case distract you. The fundamental issue is that she was fired over a short absence due to a serious family emergency, all while ostensibly performing well at her job. That's not acceptable.

lagadu• 10 years ago

Perhaps she means 130%, which is already insanely high? I can't imagine even a loan shark practising 300%.

tunap4• 10 years ago

Some title loans (automobile) charge 10% per week, which if left unpaid, will amount to 520% per annum. Hence why payday loan stores compete for every corner in impoverished areas.

darkr2• 10 years ago

Maybe it's $2k basic before commission (as sales salaries are often largely composed of commission), and that fact wasn't disclosed in this post?

ktRolster5• 10 years ago

So, she was selling $19k worth of stuff, and claimed she was doing a good job (let's assume she's correct). Her income was $2k.

So that means ~10% of Yelp's revenue is going to salespeople. Is that normal? Do salespeople normally take 10% of every sale?

Tiksi• 10 years ago

Payday type loan at 300% APR maybe? Though generally you have to pay those back within a week or so afaik, so you don't actually pay 300%

ktRolster5• 10 years ago

Wow, I checked it out, I didn't realize it but payday loans can be up to 400%: http://www.consumerfinance.gov/askcfpb/1567/what-payday-loan...

Brutal.

gambiting2• 10 years ago

In the UK, Wonga.com charges 1500% interest on payday loans. If you take it for longer than few days you are insane

https://wonga.com/

koder2016• 10 years ago

There is a lifetime of bad choices there, why be surprised at that one?

prawn2• 10 years ago

"please don't let all the particularities of this case distract you."

The bulk of your comment was about a loan she took out and a low salary!

scandox• 10 years ago

Being a single parent is incredibly tough. I admire anyone who manages it without completely losing their mind.

Real efficiency on Yelp's part would be controlled flexibility. If what we read is accurate then they are losing out because of excessive rigidity.

We can't make employment a zero sum game. Humans are too valuable.

daguava• 10 years ago

If consistently treated this poorly, why would one not leave the job and go elsewhere, especially if rent + said job puts you in the red? Not to excuse yelp of anything, but if you don't feel you are valued you are the one responsible for bettering your situation.

ktRolster5• 10 years ago

Most likely she doesn't know how to find jobs elsewhere. Learning to manage a career is a skill all of itself (which for that matter is a skill I am still learning).

So while she could do that, it's not always easy to figure out.

sputr• 10 years ago

Ok, so how they treat their employees sucks. Now comes the famous but.

Why did she take a job she could not afford - from what I understand she's making a monthly loss of $700 + groceries, gas, etc. Why move to SF, to take a sales job you can't afford? More importantly, a job you knew would be making you an unsustainable loss before you even took it! With a kid in tow this just seems irresponsible.

Now you can talk about career development, the american dream etc. but at the end of the day, you don't take a job you can't afford. Now I'm not saying you can't take a job where you are loosing money so you get experience/references/career opportunities, (here comes that but again) BUT only if you can afford it. Yeah, you missed that "opportunity", but others will come along.

PaulRobinson3• 10 years ago

In that case nobody should ever go to college ever.

If you don't think you can get into a top school, another way to find a way up the ladder is to find a position at a top start-up you believe will lead somewhere better.

$1k/month for a year whilst building experience is a cheap way to get yourself into a position that might pay $100k/year if you work hard, especially compared to college.

Stop blaming her. Look at how Yelp behaved.

stedaniels• 10 years ago

Not sure why you're being downvoted. In my mind also, her early risk of a low salary is equally equatable to the up front investment of college/university.

shultays2• 10 years ago

Imho, if you are a single parent, maybe you should postpone collage too. She was losing at least $1700 a month.

purpleidea• 10 years ago

Sounds like yelp is probably a shitty place to work, but on an unrelated note you're not supposed to have your phone on in the ICU. At least not where I live.

danso• 10 years ago

I am the single mother who closed 17K in month one and 19K in month two. I am the single mother who gets to see her son for a few hours a night, pays $2500 in rent (I make 2k a month so YES, my family has to help and I am so sorry to burden them), pays $1200 a month in daycare (#yelpcares — no subsidy there)

I'm not experienced in sales...but how is this a good deal for the author, nevermind tenable? This, plus the 300% loan she mentions...I wonder what the Yelp recruiting pitch was to her? To give her the benefit of the doubt, it'd have to be that Yelp overpromised on commissions for her to take such a risk.

But Yelp or no Yelp, this is just a difficult situation overall, and one that continues to increase the admiration I have for women who can deal with pregnancy/motherhood and go for a high-pace job, tech or anywhere (how the F did Ada Lovelace manage 3 pregnancies in her day?)...I'd love to hear from other companies -- whether it be traditional ones or established tech companies like Google/Facebook -- about how they've dealt with similar extreme situations, if ever? My conception of Yelp is that it's not doing so hot financially and so, malice or not, has just poorly prepared itself to deal with the author's situation, such that a manager/CEO can justify being abrupt because "it's her, or the overall company". Whereas a much more stable company with all the tech amenities has more flexibility in practicing "humaneness"

PaulRobinson3• 10 years ago

Yelp: So here's how it's going to play out. We'll start you on $2k/month base, and then after 3 months your target bonuses kick in.

You: OK, what could those be?

Yelp: Well, if you work hard, you could be looking at 25% of sales you book, and we'd be expecting you to be doing $15k-$30k of sales a month, so let's take the lower end of that, and assume an additional $45k a year bringing you up to near $70k/year. Whilst you're here you're gaining great experience at a great company

You: Well, currently my life is utter crap and this seems like a good way to provide for my kid given I can't afford to go to school, so, OK...

Now can't you see how this might play out?

pilsetnieks• 10 years ago

So here's how it's going to play out. We'll start you on $2k/month base, and then after 3 months your target bonuses kick in

Hoodwink enough people and fire them before those 3 months are up, and you've got a sustainable business model there.

josh_fyi• 10 years ago

Ada Lovelace was upper-class.

mnml_2• 10 years ago

upvoting, GO Foursquare

kriro• 10 years ago

How can you take a job where you make 2k/month and pay rent of 2.5k + 1.2k daycare. That sounds unsustainable. And a 300% loan...what?

Company culture at Yelp sounds horrible. Tell someone they can come in or get fired over the phone while they are in the ICU is pretty bad. The other stuff mentioned is also bad.

timwaagh• 10 years ago

i guess they were right to fire her. its a really narcissistic piece. to think that such people actually exist in this world.

prostoalex3• 10 years ago

I am the single mother who closed 17K in month one and 19K in month two.

This needs more context. Is this amount of sales considered incredible, very good, average, below average or significantly below average in Yelp world?

It's one thing if the author was a top-notch performer terminated for family circumstances beyond her control, it would be a different story if she was under-performing, perhaps on internal probation, and termination coincided with a series of tragic family events.

Some companies are known to stack-rank and trim their sales force en masse.

diskcat3• 10 years ago

If she was a top-notch performer Yelp would have bent over backwards to keep her around.

The fact that they didn't would imply that the trouble of keeping her is less than the cost of firing her, which says a lot about the performance of an employee.

BWStearns• 10 years ago

> If she was a top-notch performer Yelp would have bent over backwards to keep her around.

There is no 10x or 100x phone web-ad sales person. It's slightly more differentiable than bricklaying. You might be impressively and noticeably better than everyone else, but your greatest asset is being non-differentiable: show up on time, follow your script, go home. When you start costing more expensive people's time your marginal advantage isn't enough to save you.

ryandrake2• 10 years ago

cost of firing her

I keep hearing this phrase here, often as justification for being picky when hiring. As someone who's never run a business, can someone please elaborate a bit about what it costs to fire someone? I thought, at least in the USA, there are really no worker protections. You just say "pack your stuff up and get out".

personjerry• 10 years ago

These posts in a nutshell: "I am bad at managing my finances. Also, it is much easier to blame big companies than to introspect and try to improve myself."

return0• 10 years ago

Is "single mother" some kind of minority status she keeps repeating at every sentence?

petercooper• 10 years ago

It doesn't have to be a "status" - it's her actual life. Employers and managers should be sensitive to their employees' needs (and I say this as an employer). It's not all about the law and ticking boxes. Yes, a low paid single mother does deserve more leeway than a middle aged childless white guy in the office whether or not the law says so.

throwaway049• 10 years ago

Your middle aged childless white guy may well have caring responsibilities to his elderly parents or disabled sibling, which he didn't feel comfortable telling you about as you appear to be unsympathetic to some kinds of employees.

rootlocus4• 10 years ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitmotif#Literature_and_drama

realharo• 10 years ago

It does smack a bit of "my problems are more important than yours" attitude. The same kind of judgmental tone can be seen in other parts too:

I am the single mother who closed two deals with a fever during winter “break” while my co-workers took their days off for fun. I worked through and paced my time off into half days bc I knew I needed to save up my time off.

Why does she care what her coworkers use their time off for? Everyone gets the same amount of vacation and they can use it for whatever they damn well please, that's none of her business.

Or maybe I'm just reading too much into it...

makeitsuckless• 10 years ago

It's stories like this that cause everyone in Europe except the blind SV worshippers and libertarian fundamentalists to just shrug and shake their heads every time a rant comes up about how the US is so much better for startups and entrepreneurs.

And this thread is just full of sociopaths blaming the victim. SV culture disgusts me.

ktRolster5• 10 years ago

  >And this thread is just full of sociopaths blaming the victim.

It's better to not think of it as blaming the victim, but rather offering advice on how to avoid that problem in the future. Even if the tone of the advice is rather negative...

robryan• 10 years ago

Surely this isn't worth it in the long run for Yelp. I understand if someone was constantly absent in a way that looked like they were abusing goodwill.

Surely though, the loss of morale from fellow employees over an incident like this is not worth it, unless you want to reinforce some kind of authoritarian workplace where people better keep quiet and stay in line if they want to continue being employed.

jonesb63• 10 years ago

Isn't that what a lot of sales environments are like? High pressure to perform, constant turnover, management who only care about the quarterly numbers?

jonesb63• 10 years ago

Hey everyone can I just make the point that comments supporting either the mother or Yelp bring value to the discussion especially if they reflect the true opinion of the reader (and likely reflect the opinion of many other readers).

gambiting2• 10 years ago

I really don't see it as a problem with Yelp. Yelp is doing everything in its best interests - even if its inhumane, immoral and scummy. I see it as a problem with a completely broken social care system in the US which is just utter bullshit, no guaranteed maternity leave is not something you would normally accuse a "1st" world country of.

stegosaurus• 10 years ago

A realisation I made quite early whilst growing up is that the system is set up to make the working class look like crazy fools.

In Britain it's basically the hallmark of being middle class - politeness, stiff upper lip.

This article does read badly, it sounds irrational, crazy, angry. And that's rational and makes sense.

dev360• 10 years ago

Currently in the process of moving the family back to the US from Sweden, and this is one of the things that scares me the most about life in US. At most workplaces, managers treat you like cattle, and people in IT are still so blessed when I compare to the crap my wife had to go through working hospitality/restaurants and hospitals.. The situation is unacceptable.

Still, sure there are great companies in the US that emulate perks and benefits that you take for granted in the rest of the western world, but for the most part, I have always felt I've needed to start my own business to rid myself of this craziness and be able to afford myself some basic measure of work/life balance.

anu_gupta• 10 years ago

In which a bunch of privileged males cast judgement from their perches on someone who's clearly had to make some unpleasant choices, some of which may even have been poor ones.

radu_floricica• 10 years ago

I haven't seen this mentioned in comments before: we really need the other guy's POV in this. The most common scenarios in which you'd fire somebody for failing to show up at work is if:

- you want to fire them anyways and are just looking for an excuse

- there are recurring issues and this is just the last drop in a bucket - in which case the firing incident could very well be relatively trivial

I am the single mother who was the top of my class in training for you Jeremy

It does not make financial sense for a company to fire a top employee for missing a day, evil or not.

yomism• 10 years ago

And that's capitalism for you, kids.

Quoting: "I do not rely on the state to care for my son."

Not being from the USA and seeign the place this human being is in, it hurt me reading that justification.

Goddamm, that is what state is for! You have been fed all that capitalist bullshit for so long that don't see that another way of living is possible?

Are people waiting for private companies to help them in moments of need? That's what a welfare state is for. Just look at Europe, for all the jokes about french-strikes, taxes, corruption and whatelse we are not as fucked as this.

xlm1717• 10 years ago

You have to wonder if Yelp did something to anger someone higher up that they're being bashed repeatedly in public.

thrillgore• 10 years ago

Just as before, the longer I read this, the far less sympathetic I grow. I hope she can get situated elsewhere quickly.

DO NOT TAKE OUT A HUGE ASS LOAN. Don't make that mistake. Come on, people.

tunap4• 10 years ago

Easy for you or I to say. Or anyone else who isn't impoverished, without(or ignorant of) credit choices who's seemingly last option is the ubiquitous 'Loan Stores' that prey on the disadvantaged.

hsod• 10 years ago

This is a really shitty situation but I'm not sure it's Yelp's fault.

There seems to be a fundamental assumption that, by paying someone to make sales calls for them, Yelp takes on a sort of overarching responsibility for that person's general well-being.

Is it just because Yelp is a big institution with deep pockets? Aren't the various governments bigger institutions with deeper pockets?

It seems to me much more logical that welfare should come from the state, and that people and corporations should be free to enter into or exit from mutually beneficial economic relationships.

The author proudly states that she doesn't rely on the state to care for her son, but why not? Wasn't she effectively relying on the goodwill of Yelp to care for her son?

carlosnunez• 10 years ago

Yelp was really shitty for treating her this way, but the decisions she made to move to SF and work for Yelp are HIGHLY questionable.

Taking out a loan at 300% interest while FULL WELL knowing that you can't afford rent (HER ENTIRE PAYCHECK goes to rent!) or basic living necessities AND caring for a family AS A SINGLE MOM is beyond irresponsible.

Yelp Fired a Single Mother Today: Me

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