Popcorn Time in Your Browser

349 252 11 years ago

iM8t• 11 years ago

I love the idea, but what about copyright issues? It's easier for Hollywood to take down a single site than to take down thousands of people having an installed application.

Other than that - great implementation. I didn't know this was even possible! Good job.

mavdi• 11 years ago

It's back to the good old Whac-A-Mole game. Here is a list of blocked domains in the UK, which has grown insanely in last year alone http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_websites_blocked_in_the...

VeejayRampay2• 11 years ago

Popcorn Time has succeeded in streamlining the delivery of content, providing a smooth and fast experience for sorting through a list of movie and start watching instantly. I really wonder why the movie studios cannot take a cue from this and build something that people actually want to use.

nothrabannosir• 11 years ago

I never used either, so I'm genuinely curious: what does Netflix lack, from that list?

pja• 11 years ago

Breadth of content? Otherwise, Netflix is pretty solid.

sz4kerto• 11 years ago

Availability and content. I'd be very happy to use Netflix if a) it were available around here* b) if it provided the same selection as in the US

*: random country in the EU

efdee• 11 years ago

I very much enjoyed Netflix while staying with family in the US. In Belgium, however, the available content is so limited that it's just not worth it. Not even Friends, Simpsons, X-Files, nothing.

izacus• 11 years ago

Nothing, but it does gain another thing - text saying "I'm sorry, not available where you live." Which is kind of a dealbreaker.

driverdan3• 11 years ago

Netflix has a very limited, poor selection of content. Every single movie I've tried to watch on Netflix in the past month hasn't been available for streaming.

VeejayRampay2• 11 years ago

Netflix has very little content and isn't available everywhere.

path4113• 11 years ago

You have to wait 3 months after a movie has been released to DVD for it to even have a chance of being on Netflix to "help encourage" DVD sales.

k-mcgrady7• 11 years ago

It's much easier to streamline something when you don't have to follow any of the rules. The movie industry has to think of distribution agreements, localising content and maximising profit - just like any other business. When you have nothing to lose you can do what you want. I guess they've gotten close to this with Netflix. There are still geo-restrictions there and not all content is available but for most people with access there is enough. Also if you want the latest content (which isn't on Netflix) you can probably buy it from iTunes. Again not available everywhere but available in quite a lot of places.

When you look at how easy this content is to access now compared with 10 or 15 years ago when you had to have a video store membership, hope no one else had rented the copy, pay crazy prices, and remember to bring it back when you were done, I find it hard to believe people's biggest problem (and main reason for pirating) is ease of access. It's price plain a simple. People have the option of not paying so a lot of them won't. I've done it in the past and it was almost never about ease of access. It was about money.

soft_dev_person• 11 years ago

People have the option of not paying so a lot of them won't.

But a lot of them will. They will pay for ease of access, legal access, and a good user experience.

If the industry had focused its energy on those willing to pay instead of those not willing to pay, maybe the UX Popcorn Time provides today would have been available as a legal subscription based service.

Just look at Spotify. Yes, a lot of people still don't pay for the music they consume, but a lot of people do. Pirating of music has certainly seen a decline, even if we may never get rid of it completely.

FeepingCreature• 11 years ago

Note that it's easy to get a false dichotomy here, to think it's just between "paying" and "not paying" - if forced, people also have the simple option to "not watch".

I think what's needed is something like Steam or GOG, but for Movies. Preferably with un-DRM downloads because fuck if I'm watching movies in Flash. (Same goes for Silverlight - mplayer or fuck you. Torrents let me watch with mplayer. On finicky graphics drivers who occasionally fail at vsync, choice of player matters.)

Why is it that in 2015, I can't go to a site, give them money, and get a high-quality mkv download - but I can go to a site, not give anyone money, and get that download anyways? Movie industry, why do you not want my money? Hell, set up an "indemnity service"! Select a movie, pay them, and they promise to not sue you. Zero distribution infrastructure required.

celticninja• 11 years ago

The movie companies enforce the rules and could easily change them however they are stuck in their old world distribution model which is no longer relevant in a digital society.

jules3• 11 years ago

While those problems are real, they are also self inflicted by the movie industry. I don't agree it's about money. Recently Netflix became available in my country (the netherlands) and many people I know stopped pirating content. It simply was not available legally before Netflix. You had to wait two years to watch a TV series and then you had to watch it at a time when some TV station decided to broadcast it. It was the same for games. When steam came lots of people stopped pirating games. Same for music.

For some it's about money yes, but for lots of people it's about the user experience or simply about availability in the first place.

Joeri• 11 years ago

Lack of legal pathways to content are the only reason I watch any pirated content at all. Plenty of TV shows that I want to see are made in foreign countries and don't come to my country at all or come years late, and even when they do require me to sit behind a TV screen at a particular hour, or remember to program a recorder to write it to a hard drive, which is impossibly archaic. Ofcourse, the best shows are behind pay-walls, but even if I pay the hundreds of euros per month to get past all the paywalls of all the services, the combined offering is quite poor.

It's quite simple: give me spotify premium or give me itunes, but for video content. I want to have everything ever made, as soon as it is made (none of that "it's in the theatre so you have to wait" B.S.), either for a fixed reasonable monthly rental fee, or for a fixed reasonable purchasing price. I want that content on every device I have, on-demand, in the best possible quality. I'm ok with DRM for rental as long as it does not prevent access on the devices I own (ipad, windows tablet, laptop, apple tv, etc...). I'm not ok with DRM for purchasing, because when I buy something I want to own it forever. Give me that and I'll gladly pay for it, but the movie and TV industry simply doesn't want my money it seems. I pay for netflix, because that's basically the best I can get, but it's not even close to what I want.

The music industry eventually figured this stuff out and I don't pirate any music at all anymore. I still hold out hope that eventually the movie and TV industry will stop refusing to take my money.

adam74• 11 years ago

I really don't think this is a better experience than Netflix or pay-per-view on my tv. The only thing that is better is that I don't have to pay for it. The movies actually take a lot longer to load on this.

cmiles743• 11 years ago

I honestly do not believe that the movie studios are motivated to improve the current system. Perhaps they feel that the current, fractured delivery system serves their interest more than something central and comprehensive. It certainly encourages the customer to subscribe to a service like Netflix, perhaps also to rent a new release on iTunes and eventually possibly buying that same release when its price drops. That's getting paid three times for the same content!

r00fus• 11 years ago

Bingo. The goal of the movie industry is simply to make more money, and to prevent any challenge to their stranglehold on content... if that is achieved by balkanized delivery systems, that's what they will push for.

rhino3697• 11 years ago

Movie studios have the least exposure to piracy risk other than online multiplayer games and console games.

You can't get a good copy of a movie until DVDs and brs are released. Cams and TSs are terrible.

If something like popcorn time went mainstream they would just stop releasing disc media and downloads until well after the theatre stopped playing.

TV is the industry that should be worried. If popcorn time goes mainstream we'll never see high budget cable content ever again. Just 100% low budget sitcoms, soap operas and reality TV. But not with constant in show advertising that scenesters can't edit out.

tmikaeld4• 11 years ago

Seems to be getting the file from: https://coinado.io

So with this, i really question the "privacy" and legality of this service and coinado.io.

czechdeveloper• 11 years ago

Popcorn time never pretended to be legal. It just provided great user experience to "old" torrenting.

tmikaeld4• 11 years ago

Of course, i don't think i even mentioned Popcorn.

shawabawa32• 11 years ago

Coinado should be legal as far as I can tell - in the same way a torrent client is perfectly legal.

They may have to respond to takedown requests or similar though, but seeing as how they only know the hash it will be a lot easier for them to claim ignorance

I'm not sure what your privacy concerns are... You can track clients downloading torrents pretty easily, if anything this would help as it adds another layer of indirection

tmikaeld4• 11 years ago

They are providing direct streams/links to the downloaded files on popcorn.

The issue is that that has nothing to do with torrents - it's a direct link to the FILE of the movie, plain and simple.

runn1ng• 11 years ago

Note: this depends on https://coinado.io, that's for free only for a limited time

After they start charging actual money (...well, Bitcoin), this will stop working.

egeozcan• 11 years ago

This reminds me of joker[1], with the benefit of not expecting you to feed it a torrent (or expecting you to know what a torrent is).

I genuinely wonder, though, if these services are published just to annoy the copyright owners or for some benefit to the author that I sadly cannot see.

edit: They also do not seem to serve ads. Maybe an experiment for a potential legal version? Who knows...

[1]: currently out of service, used to be available at http://joker.org/ , discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8520954

verbin217• 11 years ago

Because fuck media conglomerates, that's why. Sorta like Google Chrome: because fuck Microsoft, that's why. When an entity achieves dominance they only innovate in order to keep it. The difference between this situation and the one I compared it to is that there's no way to legitimately compete. Even in the contrasting example it took an entity the size of Google to revive competition. In this one they control the content and dictate the platform. The most competitive platforms, in terms of user preference, can be starved of content and displaced by alternatives only the media conglomerates could desire. Do you honestly think we'd have gotten Netflix without torrents? The people who desire progress or otherwise to actually do things have two choices. They can either repress that desire or they can out-hack the regressive empire builders who desire only to have things.

_lce02• 11 years ago

yep, they are called _barrier to entry_[0], and those big conglomerates have huge barriers, being the current legislation the biggest..

the question is if they will be able to handle the economy of scale of the whole world trying to move forward --I hope not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barriers_to_entry

DigitalSea• 11 years ago

You know the traditional business model of Hollywood is well and truly broken when an open source application like Popcorn Time comes along and does everything right. What Popcorn Time has done by making accessing content on demand easier than ever before is nothing short of impressive.

They're the Netflix of piracy and I think Hollywood can learn a lot from Popcorn Time (but as history has proven, they won't).

Narkov• 11 years ago

Everything right? Except of course monitize it.

Giving stuff away is pretty easy to do. Making a business out of it is much harder.

k-mcgrady7• 11 years ago

> Everything right? Except of course monitize it.

And funding/creating it. Anyone can take something they don't own and give it away for free. Investing in its creation and ensuring that investment is successful is much more difficult and limits your options for distribution.

rkangel• 11 years ago

Given the technical restrictions on sharing illegal content, due to copyright laws shutdown of websites etc., sharing illegal content isn't that easy to do. That someone has managed to do it in as user friendly a manner as they have, putting everything in the industry to shame (apart from Netflix) is in an indication of the failings of the industry.

Netflix is a great product that falls down only in terms of content. If Netflix had more TV shows as box sets, and new episodes of currently being broadcast TV seasons, I would happily pay 10 times as much as I do (no exaggeration) and never use anything else legal or otherwise. The resistance that the established industry has to making deals to enable that sort of service is the reason that Popcorn Time can beat them.

thomasfl• 11 years ago

At least they have shown that it's possible to distribute movies on a massive scale with a minimum of infrastructure. When distribution cost is close to free, it could open up a lot of possibilities that could potentially benefit customers and film makers.

smhg4• 11 years ago

Do you mean monetization and making a business are the main goals?

I thought they were means? Means to accomplish progress in human society.

viraptor2• 11 years ago

Coinado will require payment after beta period. We'll see how it goes...

unicornporn• 11 years ago

All achievements can't be judged by their ability to make money. /The Swedish socialist

Sir_Substance9• 11 years ago

You've fallen into the classic trap:

No one is obliged to give you money. Finding a business model that works is your problem, not your customers.

Forced lock-in is a model, but it's a violent one that makes people want to leave, and it's entirely predicated on there never being an escape hatch for your trapped customers.

There is now an escape hatch for content customers. They're no longer beholden to the choice of cinema or TV for their content, and haven't been for years. Whining about how much more money you made in the old days when people couldn't escape the cage really doesn't enamor you to people.

It's on hollywood to find a new business model that works in a post-cage world. If they can't, they'll go bankrupt and vanish, and I won't care. There's a lot, and I mean a lot, of good content out there that's either low investment (think Primer) or can pay for itself in box office and/or merchandising alone (marvel, star wars, lord of the rings).

If your content creation is predicated on selling DVD's or subscriptions, and your DVD/subscription mechanism is so bad people are willingly buying VPN's to other countries to avoid using it (netflix in aus), that's not your customers problem in any fashion, it's yours.

throwawaykf052• 11 years ago

Except of course monitize it.

And, you know, create it. Giving stuff away is pretty easy to do, especially if it's somebody else's stuff :-)

tomjen35• 11 years ago

People pay for netflix, which has a worse catalog. As a minimum people would pay for this instead of netflix (and I would certainly be willing to pay more).

Ollinson• 11 years ago

The problem with streaming film services is distribution rights not software.

Even netflix, the poster child of film streaming, struggles with this same problem.

ThomPete5• 11 years ago

But that is only a problem that the movie industry itself keeps alive because it refuses to move past the idea of creating false scarcity.

oliyoung• 11 years ago

… and Netflix is smart enough to consider them competition, because they actually understand that the market isn't defined by paying for content

Tenoke• 11 years ago

Even barring monetization aside, Popcorn Time is far from doing everything right. Have you tried watching a show/movie that isn't among the most popular? Chances are there wouldn't be enough seeders to get a decent experience.

belorn2• 11 years ago

I can only guess here, but availability of content must surely be one of it. In 2015, a brick and mortar store for renting physical videos still have content which online services do not, including some movies that was in the cinema over a year ago.

towelguy2• 11 years ago

Paradoxically, torrenting sometimes is the only way to get an obscure show/movie they don't even sell anymore. I'll take few seeders over nothing at all.

martingordon• 11 years ago

How does this differ from iTunes? There's a business model that works, and the experience is pretty much exactly like Popcorn Time, except iTunes has those pesky Rent/Buy buttons.

cmiles743• 11 years ago

The comment compared Popcorn Time to Netflix; I don't think you can really compare iTunes to Netflix (or Popcorn Time). Netflix provides broad access to a range of work for a fixed monthly cost, iTunes is more of a storefront where you can purchase rights.

Popcorn Time seems like what many people want from Netflix: a much larger library. Something more like Spotify, but for movies and television.

mlrtime• 11 years ago

Where is the rent/buy button to watch Seinfeld on itunes? Its not just about price, piracy also doesn't care about where the content comes from.

driverdan3• 11 years ago

There is something very wrong when buying a movie on iTunes costs more than buying it on Bluray.

lars• 11 years ago

At least with iTunes for Windows, the experience is pretty horrid. I've found iTunes to be extremely hard to navigate, and generally difficult to use. Aesthetically, the app looks like a mix between an OSX app and a website, very out of place on a Windows machine. The UI is slow and unresponsive. It seems like every time I open the app, it wants to update, with a new EULA for me to read. They used to bundle the installer with unwanted crap. Somehow whenever I want to buy a movie, I need to click through 3 or 4 dialog boxes to confirm the purchase. The download I finally get is DRMed, and wont play on my devices.

In general iTunes manages to be bad in almost all ways software can be bad. In my mind, it's one of the worst applications I've had to deal with in recent years.

Imagine a world where content providers made content available for purchase over an open protocol, and allowed anyone to build apps to buy content on top of it. With real competition on the app side of things, non-piracy apps would be more usable than Popcorn Time, and things like iTunes would die in a heart beat.

kalleboo3• 11 years ago

I've been trying to watch a movie I bought on iTunes on my AppleTV all afternoon. I've committed the cardinal sin of moving between two different countries (!!!) so this movie is on the iTunes account in the country I lived in before. Playing it from iTunes with AirPlay it kept stopping for some reason, playing it with home sharing worked for a while, and then I tried to buy a song I liked from the movie on my computer and it stopped and lost where it was in the movie.

I got pissed off and just pirated it and used Beamer.app to send the video to the AppleTV, it played back flawlessly.

I'm happy to pay for a movie. I've funded several documentary projects on Kickstarter. Just give me an MP4 or MKV file so I can trust that I can play it today and 10 years from now on any device I own.

DRM doesn't work. It only punishes the actual customers.

tomjen35• 11 years ago

I don't think there is a movie I can buy in iTunes that I actually want, although I haven't looked in years. I assume it is different in the US but, sadly, the US isn't the entire world.

JustSomeNobody2• 11 years ago

What exactly can Hollywood learn here?

When Popcorn Time produces it's own content and distributes it in a consumer friendly way, then I think Hollywood has something to learn. Until then, this is just theft.

Ntrails• 11 years ago

UI, UX, speed, efficacy, control?

Quit with the shitty release schedules, regional locking/delays, etc etc.

There's a lot to learn about what people want to use, now they have to work out how to do something that's as easy but monetised/legal. Netflix did it, and people are willing to pay. Not, perhaps, as much as they'd like though. That's where the real rub is. I won't pay £4 to rent a movie from iTunes. I won't pay £12 for a DvD (full of extras I don't want, unskippable shit and general inconvenince).

Of course, they can always just choose to carry on as before, and assume they can scare people out of doing the easy thing instead of the "right" thing. The larger the gap between the two though - the less likely that is.

zuron7• 11 years ago

The west at least has apps like Netflix to legally watch movies. In countries like India, the only legal options we have are YouTube and a bunch of smaller companies with a small collection of Hindi Movies (<10000 movies). You want to watch Hollywood? You're best off buying a DVD for 6$, which for a country like ours is a lot of money.

what_ever• 11 years ago

Seriously? $6 is a lot of money in India? A ticket in a movie theater costs more than that in India these days.

fweespeech• 11 years ago

You know the traditional business model of Hollywood is well and truly broken

It isn't just Hollywood, even HBO Go/HBO Now is so fenced in I can't just pay them to get streaming access but have to go through Apple which won't allow me to sort it out unless I actually have an iDevice

None of these companies make it easy besides Netflix. And for what? It doesn't even help them substantially [even tho they clearly think it does] it just drives me to wonder why I ever talked myself out of pirating things on moral grounds.

xasos• 11 years ago

Hollywood can learn a lot from Popcorn Time (but as history has proven, they won't).

This happened to the music industry with Napster, but they learned a little too late. Now Spotify is the dominant force in the music streaming business.

tomjen35• 11 years ago

They have painted themselves into a corner, because they have sold exclusive rights to so much of their content - e.g friends can only ever be on netflix - so they can't make what people want: spotify for movies (which is what netflix isn't).

cekanoni• 11 years ago

That's amazing i love popcorn. But i cant see the latest movies that are in popcorn app ?

amazon_not• 11 years ago

Does not appear to work, at least not on an iPad. Media player either does not start playback or issues a timeout.

cliveowen• 11 years ago

Not working on Chrome on Mac OS X 10.9.5, either.

oneeyedpigeon• 11 years ago

Works on that combo for me. In what way is it "not working"?

ConAntonakos• 11 years ago

Same. Couldn't get it to work.

feross• 11 years ago

Every few months, someone builds a site like this. It lasts for a few days (or weeks) at best before it's shutdown due to legal pressure or sheer cost for the owner.

I'm going to ignore the piracy aspect of this site (since I don't support copyright infringement) and just talk about the implementation. This site is connecting to a centralized service to fetch the torrent data. It's not P2P, it's easy to censor, and it likely won't be around for long.

What we really need is a true P2P implementation of BitTorrent in the browser. I'm working on just such a project: WebTorrent (http://webtorrent.io).

You can see a demo here: https://instant.io

Here is a link to watch Sintel (Creative Commons 3.0): https://instant.io/#c6642b73cf82dc52b5d538fabfdf9c8e3d9e850f

WebTorrent is powered by WebRTC, the de-facto standard for connecting two peers in the web browser. It even works in desktop apps (via Electron or NW.js) and mobile apps (via embedding the webrtc.org library).

With WebRTC, we can connect all types of endpoints (desktop, web, mobile) directly and completely P2P. This is the underlying transport that all future P2P protocols should be built upon.

Right now, the primary limitation of WebTorrent in the browser is that you can't just paste in any random magnet uri or .torrent file and have it work. The torrent must be seeded by a WebRTC-capable client, i.e. webtorrent-hybrid (https://github.com/feross/webtorrent-hybrid) or https://instant.io.

We plan to build a desktop client (soon!) that can connect to normal BitTorrent peers, as well as WebRTC peers. These long-running peers will ensure there's lots of content available in the network that the shorter-running web peers can access.

This is the vision: All torrent clients (desktop, web, mobile) talking directly to each other. If you're interested in learning more about the idea of "WebRTC everywhere", here are some links:

https://github.com/webrtcftw/goals/issues/1

https://github.com/jbenet/random-ideas/issues/13

amelius• 11 years ago

I guess the main problem is that browsers are not allowed to connect to random IP addresses using anything other than standard protocols. Otherwise, every website could potentially turn itself into a botnet.

This problem is not likely to go away very easily, I suppose.

realusername• 11 years ago

Thanks for your awesome work ! I guess when the WebTorrent protocol will be implemented in libtorrent, suddenly, everything is going to change. Right now it's a bit of a chicken-and-egg problem but I'm really confident your project will enable a whole new class of applications which are not possible to build easily currently.

bobajeff• 11 years ago

At least until TCP and UDP Socket API is completed and implemented in browsers. http://www.w3.org/2012/sysapps/tcp-udp-sockets/

Vexs• 11 years ago

Instant.io is pretty much, hands down the best way I've found to transfer a file to a friend or coworker. No waiting for uploads to finish, no mucking about with accounts and permissions, just copy a hash and go. Really simple, very effective.

I can't wait for the final version!

SchizoDuckie• 11 years ago

Coinado is a remote torrenting service. We do the torrenting for you, worry about seeding, keep your privacy and deliver the file over an encrypted connection. Requesting a file is simple. You just append the info hash of the torrent to the Coinado domain and when you start the download, the torrenting happens transparently on our servers and a minute later the file starts streaming to you.

That sounds like a solid idea all around. I though this was the javascript torrent client implementation, instead, it relies on yet another service that can be taken down.

Aissen• 11 years ago

And it's nothing new. put.io has existed for years.

slang800• 11 years ago

Aww, that's a shame. I was really hoping that this was a clever use of websockets like http://webtorrent.io is.

nacs2• 11 years ago

I was really hoping that this was a clever use of websockets like http://webtorrent.io is

WebRTC not websockets.

N0RMAN• 11 years ago

Source: https://github.com/vmanin/popcorninyourbrowser

benwaffle• 11 years ago

oh dear https://github.com/vmanin/popcorninyourbrowser/blob/master/j...

bobysmity• 11 years ago

http://tomthepainter.github.io/PopcornTimeMovies/

for a clear list ;)

yAnonymous• 11 years ago

They should probably use SSL by default, but other than that it's an amazing idea and implementation, legal issues aside.

throwaway_97• 11 years ago

I found that at least in qBittorrent you can download media in sequence and consume it as it downloads. VlC seems to work fine even though it will prompt you about building a index first.

tmikaeld4• 11 years ago

Requests currently giving 502 bad gateway.

senorito2• 11 years ago

What is the big deal about this at all?

Seriously, I don't get it. All I can see is that I can choose from some movies and stream them.

But that's neither innovative nor new ...

shmerl2• 11 years ago

You can also save them, since it has no DRM. That's "innovative" (semi-sarcasm intended). Meaning that it's actually consumer friendly, unlike what is normally offered.

senorito2• 11 years ago

vodly.to f.x. seems to offer way more advanced and comfortable Digital Left Management ...

koolkat• 11 years ago

I think that it has something to do with distribution. Most of the business was about distribution. Before it was dificult to distribute the information (music, movies etc) so you needed to hire someone to distribute your product and you paid a company which had the infrastructure to do so. This middle man soon became a cartel controlling distribution. Now distribution is easy and abundant so obviously it changes everything. They were selling a solution for something that used to be dificult that now is easy. Its like if your business was selling water in the desert and one day someone finds easy acces abundant water. Lets remember that most of the money is going to distributors not creators.

wengzilla• 11 years ago

is this traceable to an individual computer? for instance, if i am using this on a college campus that traditionally bans the use of torrents, am i likely to get caught?

fysac• 11 years ago

While it may be traceable, I don't think you'll get in trouble because Coinado is the service doing the actual torrenting.

path4113• 11 years ago

I don't think the college would be able to detect it as normal torrent traffic, but it would be pretty trivial to catch you using this specific site/service once your campus hears about it.

WorldWideWayne• 11 years ago

Is this better than Kodi + Genesis?

shmerl2• 11 years ago

That's how one should make a video service. Simple, user friendly and DRM-free. Until the backwards thinking film industry will learn this, they'll remain in the dark ages.

Schwolop3• 11 years ago

I want an amnesty on piracy, paid for by an increase in my taxes, then used to fund government grants and financial support for content creators.

Content should default to free and accessible, with few exceptions. Content creators should be able to earn a living.

Those two statements are not mutually exclusive, but the current status quo makes them so.

joeyespo• 11 years ago

Essentially, a basic income?

That would also create content creators. That is, allow people who would not normally create content from lack of time or security to begin doing so.

It would also eliminate the waste caused from having a big department to determine who exactly "content creators" are.

Schwolop3• 11 years ago

Yep, that'd do it. :-)

milankragujevic• 11 years ago

if anybody's looking for a working alternative now that the original site is dead, check this out: http://betterpopcorn.imilan.me/

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