Late.sh – a command-line Clubhouse for computer people

https://late.sh/

by itherseed • 20 hours ago

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modinfo• 19 hours ago

This is amazing! Even real icecast with irc <3 Even my fav game 2048, even with real LLM :D

Fantastic job mati!

bl4ckbe4r4• 15 hours ago

Thank you :)

DANmode3• 18 hours ago

Ever see something new, and just know it’s going to survive?

Your site copy is great to the last drop.

Great submission.

sevg2• 18 hours ago

Your site copy is great to the last drop.

It is? It’s just the usual LLM.

DANmode3• 17 hours ago

The design = “flavor of the week LLM”,

but someone still has to proof and tweak generated copy.

Someone cared about this page.

wazzup_im• 18 hours ago

Good work, thanks!

catfisher• 18 hours ago

Pretty cool ngl.

hankbond• 18 hours ago

Design is illegible. Needs more contrast between text and background. I'm not even vision impaired and I was squinting immediately.

viccis• 16 hours ago

I'm, by contrast, an able bodied person with functioning eyes and had no issues.

tapland• 16 hours ago

You might not have the average display.

But, can you reason more about your intent with the tone of your comment?

d0ddy• 16 hours ago

there are many many themes. some high contrast ones

sevenzero• 16 hours ago

Hmm maybe the tool has but the design of the website made me squint as well.

bjelkeman-again• 15 hours ago

So much modern GUI design is really poor for those a bit older where contrast is important.

1e1a• 15 hours ago

The accessibility checker in Chrome/Firefox devtools would immediately flag this.

aslakhellesoy• 15 hours ago

Even 15 years ago this was such a big problem that someone tried to start a rebellion: https://contrastrebellion.com/

gombosg• 13 hours ago

Haha, nice website, with the greyed-out comments on HN featured among the offending examples. :)

arnitdo• 14 hours ago

Vibe coded slop has the same patterns of black-on-black and grey-on-grey illegible text. Mix that with piss poor monospace, small-size fonts and you have to squint to read each letter

nativeit5• 7 hours ago

The whole brand identity is “late”, as in late night, as in all the lights are off and I don’t want my screen to blind me. I feel like this is a perfectly appropriate sort of theme, but maybe that’s just my inner 20-year old impugning my inner 70-year old?

TurdF3rguson3• 18 hours ago

And... Cue 1M dummies here running that code without even looking at it, SMH.

jauntywundrkind• 16 hours ago

i had a quite good experience generating a key/username on my local machine and ssh'ing in.

lot of vitriol in the comments. looks like a spectacularly put together BBS, to me. the tools are open-source and have some really fun looking value add, but no, i haven't ran them.

1dom3• 14 hours ago

It's possible to login and interact and use late.sh with just your SSH client - there's no need to download or run custom code. But you that did make me realise that they don't have a github link on that page anywhere.

Your tone in this comment is a bit out of place on HN. Why are you here if you think it's 1M dummies?

TurdF3rguson3• 13 hours ago

The people why ran that line without knowing what it does are dummies. And yes maybe not 1M but there were a lot of them.

hahahaa• 18 hours ago

why not just use irc?

muzani• 15 hours ago

Which servers are still alive?

stackghost• 14 hours ago

Rizon, hackint, and Libera, among others

Hugsbox2• 7 hours ago

Still plenty of thriving communities on IRC, particularly on Libera but elsewhere too. Similar to HN, it's one of the few remaining places on the internet you can hope to have a decent conversation.

bl4ckbe4r4• 14 hours ago

can you listen to music, play sudoku/nanograms/tetris, do live artboard, jump into NetHack/DCSS/dopewars/LOGD insdie IRC?

dark-star• 9 hours ago

nobody has mIRC/ircii installed by default

everyone has ssh installed by default

tonyrice• 17 hours ago

I really love this!

behnamoh2• 17 hours ago

A CLI tool that's not grep-able is a GUI disguised as TUI.

joshka• 16 hours ago

yes, and... ?

hebelehubele• 15 hours ago

Let the man not enjoy it in peace.

pmarreck• 16 hours ago

Did it ever claim it was a CLI?

jrflowers2• 16 hours ago

Under every link to download the CLI. The ones hosted on the cli subdomain

behnamoh2• 6 hours ago

title literally says "command line".

amanverasia• 16 hours ago

Pay no need to other comments over here, this is awesome. I showed this to my co-workers, they all love it.

jrflowers2• 16 hours ago

Nice! I was just thinking about how much I love installing binaries instead of going to a website

kennywinker2• 6 hours ago

Good thing you don't have to install anything to run `ssh late.sh` and check this out

kksweet• 15 hours ago

This is like habbo hotel but for terminal nerds, amazing.

tristanMatthias2• 15 hours ago

Totally! Or Club Penguin

pishpash• 7 hours ago

Reading this is like reading "this is like WiFi but for RJ11 nerds" while holding a dialup modem.

docheinestages3• 15 hours ago

I loved the text contrast on the landing page. Grey text on a dark background.

asdf88990• 14 hours ago

Yeah, it is a very nice way of saying “f off” if you’re poor, whatever with your display (low res mobile) or eyesight.

nativeit5• 8 hours ago

Is this really not a mostly “solved” problem using assistive browser (or OS-level) settings/extensions that apply high-contrast/large type consistently across all sites/apps? Is it necessary to performatively sacrifice aesthetics to signal to everyone else you’re especially sensitive to these needs?

At what point is it enough? If they use high contrast, large fonts, and translations for every language—including Swahili’s default Kiunjuga dialect, but fail to include the Kimvita, Kiamu, Kingwana, Chimiini, Bajuni, AND Comorian dialects, will they be accosted for saying “f off” to everyone speaking Swahili outside of Zanzibar?

tristanMatthias2• 15 hours ago

For those who don't know just discovered you can change your theme!

Ctrl + O -> Move down to your theme. Helps with the default one being a bit chaotic

Thanks for whoever made this. This is rad and gives me hope for the old internet vibes.

Schlagbohrer• 15 hours ago

Is this just IRC

T3OU-736• 11 hours ago

More of a BBS, I'd argue. Replace dialing with a modem with SSH, and otherwise the analogy holds decentky well.

vjay15• 14 hours ago

this is amazing

1dom3• 14 hours ago

This is a really cool idea, and very appealing. Also very nice that it looks usable with just an SSH client. It would be useful if it was explained what the companion client is for?

Another small personal gripe: I think you should either remove the 1 line copy/paste sh install on the homepage, or add a link to a git repo on the homepage. I know it's possible to view the sh by visiting it, but a raw text file doesn't give any info about contributors or development process. Current form of no git repo and copy/paste bash pipe on homepage feels like a dark pattern.

bl4ckbe4r4• 14 hours ago

noted, good feedback :) will change it later, thanks!

rob• 10 hours ago

You don't have to change it just because one person complained. I personally like the "copy and paste curl command" to install something and I'm sure many others do as well. It's very convenient, and I can inspect the file myself if I'm that paranoid about it.

Izmaki3• 13 hours ago

Not to mention that a webserver can be configured to show one sh file when a regular browser visits and another when curl etc. gets it. Show one thing, install another.

nkrisc• 12 hours ago

So download it with curl and read it first before executing it from your local disk.

Izmaki3• 13 hours ago

OK, which one of yous tried to `sudo apt install bobs and vageen`?? xD

bl4ckbe4r4• 13 hours ago

NEW web design with better contrast incoming! :D Thank you for the feedback :)

pixlmint• 13 hours ago

yeah I was gonna say, it's very difficult to read on an eink display. And while we're at it, I believe my phone is set to reduced animations, which I believe is a preference that's exposed to websites, the experience would be much better without so much blinking going on.

nativeit5• 7 hours ago

There’s a single green box blinking at the top. If that’s too much for your e-ink display to handle, I think the problem is your display.

nativeit5• 7 hours ago

Don’t forget to include translations to all 190+ languages, and their various dialects. Otherwise, you obv. don’t care about being inclusive to Sentinelese users. /s

Your dark mode choice for your late night chat is appropriate, and good branding. If someone’s technically literate enough to engage with an SSH-based social network, then they should be capable of injecting user scripts, custom CSS, and/or deploying assistive browser extensions, OS settings, and screen readers.

If this were a website about cataract treatments or a Metamucil landing page, then it would be a bad design.

h43z5• 12 hours ago

Reminder to be cautious about leaking public keys.

Once you leak your public key it could be used to check if another server recognizes that leaked public key.

Zambyte2• 12 hours ago

What?

h43z5• 12 hours ago

By default SSH leaks all of the below public keys (if they exist) + all public keys in your ssh-agent to a server you connect to.

  ~/.ssh/id_ecdsa.pub
  ~/.ssh/id_ecdsa_sk.pub
  ~/.ssh/id_ed25519.pub
  ~/.ssh/id_ed25519_sk.pub
  ~/.ssh/id_xmss.pub
  ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub

running `ssh late.sh` would do exactly that.

At the very bottom of the website they give you a command that would not leak your public keys.

`ssh-keygen -t ed25519 -f ~/.ssh/late_throwaway && ssh -o IdentitiesOnly=yes -i ~/.ssh/late_throwaway late.sh`

this would only send the late_throwaway public key

benj111• 12 hours ago

Surely you shouldn't be leaking your username. I could use it to see if another server recognised 'h43z'....

h43z5• 11 hours ago

OpenSSH server is designed not to reveal whether a username exists.

alentred• 10 hours ago

Did I miss something? Aren't public key are supposed to be public?

To be clear, that's an honest question, not sarcasm of anything. I only assume I don't know about some corner case with SSH or something? Because we have those on our websites, they are supposed to be used to verify signatures, etc. How is publishing them bad?

h43z5• 10 hours ago

It's just something everyone should be aware of.

It's up to you to decide if it's okay that you send a server provider (in this case late.sh) a bunch of your public keys which he could for example use to probe other servers to see if you have access to them.

Everyone has different opsec.

maxgashkov• 12 hours ago

I'm wondering how many ssh'd into this with the agent forwarding on?

flexagoon• 12 hours ago

Really reminds me of https://tilde.town

28304283409234• 12 hours ago

Similar to DevZat: https://github.com/quackduck/devzat

warthog• 10 hours ago

this is amazing, great idea

dev_dan_2• 10 hours ago

Looks neat, bookmarked and want to check it out!

podviaznikov• 10 hours ago

love this!

was panning to add similar things into my own macOS[1] ssh app with persistent SSH server.

[1] https://popssh.com

pwillia7• 10 hours ago

Fix for ChromeOS Linux: https://chatgpt.com/share/6a60b174-7b14-83ea-83d4-bdf4dc8ccc...

greengreengrass2• 9 hours ago

I would prefer the connection instructions made clear that the default SSH username would be used to set up my username on the platform and display that to other users without initially seeking my consent. On $machine[work], I don't get to pick that $USER is my full name.

If this affects you, make sure you connect with `ssh [pseudonymous name]@late.sh`.

soraminazuki• 8 hours ago

without initially seeking my consent

That's just how SSH works. If you want to be pseudonymous, you should also generate a new key pair.

greengreengrass2• 4 hours ago

That's just how SSH works

I know that. Just because SSH automatically sends my local $USER doesn't mean they have to report the value received in the SSH username automatically on the game platform to other users, without first having prompted me "your username has been reported as <greengreengrass>. Is it okay to show this?".

A simple flag in my user profile in the platform to say whether I've said that's okay or not.

Or instructions to advise people to choose their username /before/ first connect. These are reasonable, privacy-preserving things to call out in a good and user-friendly design.

latchkey• 5 hours ago

They do make it clear...

  # privacy
  we store your key fingerprint, not the full public key.
  no IP logging. no tracking. no analytics.
  chat messages and game scores are stored in
  postgres, tied only to your fingerprint.
  don't trust us? use a throwaway key:

  $ ssh-keygen -t ed25519 -f ~/.ssh/late_throwaway && ssh -o IdentitiesOnly=yes -i ~/.ssh/late_throwaway late.sh
  generates a disposable key — zero risk, full experience

Wow, this got flagged immediately. Must have triggered some automated thing. Sorry!

polycancel• 9 hours ago

Also for all these kind of ssh stuff. Please include server finger print so others verify.

Is this your server fingerprint?

ED25519 key fingerprint is SHA256:Tc7aeaaQulKJeF3C/zd2BKvq/KgaQTHyMPNa3s9K+aE.

jwr• 9 hours ago

That is a modern BBS! I love the idea. Though I guess most people these days don't know what a BBS is, if you don't, look it up.

joshspankit• 8 hours ago

Super cool and seems to have a depth of historical knowledge

I’m shocked to see that LORD can’t be used because of licensing. Legally I know that’s how it is, but it Just Feels Wrong(tm) that a popular game based on 9600baud phone modems is encumbered in the era of fibre, wifi, and smartphones

Dangeranger• 7 hours ago

For anyone looking for a safer way to evaluate this (like myself), feel free to use my safer ssh connection script[0].

[0] https://gist.github.com/dangeranger/4a00ae6bed3a733161ffa3a5...

andschneider• 4 hours ago

shameless self plug for a similar ssh experience, but for baseball: https://mlbt.sh

I built it with the same stack and around the same time as late.sh, which I used for some inspiration.

also, mlbt can be run locally as a TUI.

1vuio0pswjnm7• 4 hours ago

"your ssh key is your identity."

"don't trust us? use a throwaway key"

arm32• 4 hours ago

I've never seen such a lame landing page for such a FREAKING COOL project. It's like a reverse trojan horse.

Anyway, with that critique aside, this is the coolest thing I've seen all quarter.

Late.sh – a command-line Clubhouse for computer people

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