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With the state of current Android locking down to iOS level of closeness ( https://keepandroidopen.org )

Since my last smart phone broke, I have held out on getting a smart phone for personal use. Sure for doing professional stuff for work, I'll use the work phone, but NOT going to pay my own money to get a surveillance device now.

If you are a business, and the you don't have a web site working, then yeah too bad.

Until Ubuntu Touch or something similar catches up and can run on old smart phone in a reliable way (not having to hunt down ROM like LineageOS ) it will be going back to before 2007 for me. It is more inconvenient sometimes, but life is also better in many ways.

It uses DNS/pkarr and relays as the primary method.

Thanks for clarifying that. So does that mean Iroh still require a DNS server or domain name even though it doesn't rely on IP address?

I thought dial by key means the other party just need to be on internet and has the right key/pubic identifier then they can reached.

Where does the message resides if the other end is NOT online?

Seems like nothing can really get around this without a server/relay/TUN/STUN server. Peer to Peer messaging just doesn't work otherwise.

Saw Iroh post on HN. Just wonder how it differ from Nostr, Scuttlebutt or Yggdrasil or DHT etc? Many from Nostr claim that they are successor of scuttlebutt, but many devs from Scuttlebutt highly dispute that.

Be good to get a comparison between these protocols for devs who want to use them.