The Vespa at 80

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/vespa-italy-postwar-design-9.7252641

by cf100clunk • 21 days ago

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xnx2• 18 days ago

Iconic design, but way too noisy and dirty. Article doesn't mention "electric" once.

pjmlp4• 18 days ago

Maybe because not everyone cares, while the planet gets destroyed with wars, private jets and AI centers?

otabdeveloper4• 18 days ago

Noise pollution is a different issue than "saving the planet".

shrubble• 18 days ago

Taylor Swift just used how many tons to get married?

gambiting4• 18 days ago

And that's relevant how? If you live in a city where everyone owns a petrol scooter it's absurd. Can't wait for all of these to be electric, it's just common sense.

nxpnsv• 18 days ago

The electric range of Vespas are using the same iconic design.

tiew9Vii2• 18 days ago

Are you talking about a 1950’s Vespa or a 2026 Vespa?

A modern 300cc four stroke Vespa will use 3.3 litres of fuel per 100km and Euro 5 means noise is quiet.

As far as things go, modern scooters are great, practical, economical vehicles.

TheChaplain• 18 days ago

Euro5 also means >90% less exhaust fumes compared to Euro1 which was introduced 1999 iirc. The difference between a 1950 and 2026 Vespa must be huge.

wiether• 18 days ago

Even the new ones are awfully loud.

But, yeah, they don't smell like the old ones thankfully

guenthert• 18 days ago

A modern 300cc four stroke Vespa will use 3.3 litres of fuel per 100km

Uh, I know motorcycle engines aren't particularly fuel-efficient (it's not a priority), but there seems to be, er, room for improvement.

xnx2• 18 days ago

Great to know. It seems like most of the ones in notice in the are an older vintage and/or poorly maintained.

esperent5• 18 days ago

I like Vespas, they're very stylish, but damn they are noisy, and not a nice rumble either but more like a very loud chainsaw. They give off a terrible amount of smoke compared more modern scooters too. I do often wonder why so few other new small motorcycles or scooters have similarly beautiful designs though.

However, for me, having lived in a country with a motorbike culture for the last decade, the coolest thing on two wheels is electric scooters. So much torque, range nearly equal to same sized gas scooters, and no pollution of the noise or smoke variety. It makes such a difference when everyone is zipping around on these quiet, non-stinking scooters. That's cool. Now it just needs someone to make an electric scooter design as iconic as a Vespa.

nsbk• 18 days ago

My brother and I restored my dad’s ‘64 Vespa 150S and the thing is extremely loud!

It is very smelly as well as it’s a two stroke engine, but I don’t mind that at all. Quite the opposite

lavela• 18 days ago

Agree, as long as you don't use it around other people it's probably fine.

lostlogin10• 18 days ago

A friend races Vespas. They are apparently well suited to tuning (perhaps being poorly tuned from factory?), and power is much increased. The noise seems to go up vastly.

He has to re-weld the frame from time to time due to the cracks that form.

GenerWork• 18 days ago

Are you thinking of older Vespas? There's a few modern ones near me and they've never struck me as overly noisy.

flkiwi• 18 days ago

A guy across the street from me has a new one. It's loud as hell, but this guy is the type to remove his muffler to make whatever car he has this week sound "cooler". I'm not ready to blame the scooter yet.

ex-aws-dude• 18 days ago

Yeah I have no idea what they are talking about

I have a 150 4-stroke that is fuel injected and it’s way quieter than any motorcycle and has very little exhaust smell

esperent5• 18 days ago

I'm talking about the Vespas I actually experience on a daily basis. I don't know if they're new or old, but I can assure you that they are loud and smoky.

weberer• 18 days ago

It sounds like you're describing a 2-stroke engine, which older Vespas did use. But modern ones use a 4-stroke engine and should have the same emissions profile as any other motorcycle.

realo• 18 days ago

Yes, but still terrible, pollution wise.

Electric Vespa anyone?

anal_reactor2• 18 days ago

I live next to a road and combustion-engine mopeds vary from "holy fuck this is loud" to "I can't wait to move out". I used to live close to an airport and that was much better. The specific noise that mopeds make drills into your head. Funnily, I'm never bothered by nails on chalkboard or cutlery on plate, but mopeds, holy fuck, if hell exists, it's full of mopeds.

jjtheblunt• 18 days ago

the elettrica motors are (obviously) electric, too, and for some models come in a couple versions.

https://www.vespa.com/en_EN/electric-range/

dv_dt• 18 days ago

Ive seen someone make electric retrofit kits for vespas which sounds great to me

amarcheschi6• 18 days ago

There literally are og electric vespas, I don't think they're great value for money but I guess people like the way they look. Then again, I'd rather see more of them in the city than loud motorcycles https://www.vespa.com/it_IT/modelli/primavera/primavera-elet...

joshuaheard• 18 days ago

Vespas have been around for so long because it is such a great design. They now make an electric Vespa.

https://storeusa.vespa.com/elettrica/vespa-elettrica-45-mph....

boomskats4• 18 days ago

That og elettrica has been all but cancelled in most markets. It was grossly underpowered and overpriced, which is a shame. IIRC they relaunched it as the primavera elettrica, without all the green/yellow bits, but it's still the same bike.

boomskats4• 18 days ago

I have a couple of Vespas - a '98 T5 and a 2011 PX Unità d'Italia - and honestly my favourite safety feature is the noise they _can_ make. Modern Vespas don’t sound like the old ones from the factory anymore, but the retro scene is strong, so a lot of tuning kits bring back that classic buzz.

In town, filtering, weaving through traffic, getting to the front at lights etc., being able to make a sound which is so ubiquitously embedded in culture that it's instantly recognisable, and so easily localised, really makes a difference. It might be audible, but it's still quieter than many bigger bikes that people ride around town on, and less obnoxious. I guess I'm not the only one who feels that way, as I get a ton of smiles and so many people make an effort to move out of my way - much more so than other bikes I see on the road.

I've been super excited for electric motorbikes for years. I nearly bought a Zero FXS/FXE during covid, and then for the last year or two i've been looking hard at a BMW CE04. But they’d change how I ride, and I’d be more hesitant using them around town simply because being almost inaudible makes me nervous in UK traffic. In saying that, I'd be a lot more comfortable riding around places with a decent cycling culture like Cambridge, where people are used to looking around for smaller quieter vehicles, so I guess this too will change over time. E-bikes are great, but there the problem isn't the ride, it's the theft/security/insurance aspects.

So yeah, I guess until a few of these things change, my buzzy Vespa, with its awesome clutch and gears and crappy little drum brake on the front, will continue to be my go-to.

bananamogul• 18 days ago

Solving the safety problem by making it loud does not seem like a great solution.

Fast forward and everyone is driving nearly silent electric vehicles. I wouldn’t want loud Vespas then. Cutting city noise pollution is one of the benefits of electric vehicles.

jb19912• 18 days ago

I have to agree that the amount of pollution these things put out is really a dealbreaker in modern times, in my opinion. They really smell up a street when they go by, it’s so noticeable after having mainly electric cars and bicycles going by.

lostlogin10• 18 days ago

You’re likely thinking of the old 2 strokes - the newer ones are much of a muchness with other 4 stroke motos.

MomsAVoxell9• 18 days ago

Switched from Vespa (combustion) to Unu (electric) and Black Tea (electric) .. and the one feature I yearn for, from the Vespa era, is its noise factor.

Electric is damn quiet, damn smooth, and damn fast. (And damn comfy.)

And that can be a problem. Especially in a city like, say, Vienna, where people just do not check before they cross some of these little cosy streets.

I became a much more alert and guarding rider when I switched from Vespa.

Maybe that's a good thing, I dunno, but I am gonna put a whistle on my helmet some day soon, I swear ..

esperent5• 18 days ago

people just do not check before they cross some of these little cosy streets.

Yes, you're supposed to be the one checking that you don't hit pedestrians. Cities are for humans first, machines second. Drive slower. If you want to drive fast, take a road trip.

tuan• 18 days ago

Or honk. Does your Vespa have a honk? In Vietnam, we honk our bikes to alert others especially around a curve. Foreign visitors complain about all the honking, and they are indeed annoying sometimes, but there is a reason why people do it.

kstrauser• 18 days ago

The motorcycle version of that is "if cars can't here me from a mile away, then I'm not safe enough" or "broken exhausts save lives" or such, and that makes me hate those particular motorcyclists, too.

odiroot3• 18 days ago

TBQH from my experience people in Vienna are quite oblivious to single-track vehicles. No idea why but even cycling here is often scary.

spankibalt• 18 days ago

And that can be a problem. Especially in a city like, say, Vienna, where people just do not check before they cross some of these little cosy streets.

And not just that: Street's full of smombies, already keeping in mind that the situation awareness of the average pedestrian is a joke to begin with.

Also... mopeds and scooters are not a problem here in big-city Europe, they blend virtually completely into the vehicle hum, with two notable outliers: a) asshole mods, and b) the odd classic, two-stroke sewing machine. But even then, there's many other vehicles much louder than scooters. In the countryside they might be more of burden, for obvious reasons.

filoleg• 18 days ago

The lack of noise and smoke is a big one.

I used to ride Honda CBR500R as my primary commute vehicle for a few years in Seattle. And while the rumble of the engine was not at the chainsaw-levels of annoying, it still sucked, it still emitted smoke, and I still had to wear ear protection. Which I would need to wear even on an electric motorcycle as well, to be fair, given that I took highway (and the wind noise at speeds above 60mph absolutely hurts hearing; after catching myself speaking way too loud after a ride a couple of times, I just invested into ear protection).

But even at low speeds, the engine noise was imo annoying for pedestrians. And, mind you, I ran it with a stock exhaust. I absolutely despise people who install extra-loud (illegal) aftermarket exhausts on purpose, because they know that nobody is gonna enforce it.

Electric is kinda solving all those problems. Just yesterday, I was walking outside in NYC, and an Amazon delivery van (manufactured by Rivian) was passing by. It was such a relief, because I initially saw a big van approaching and braced for noise and smoke. Beautifully enough, none of those concerns actually materialized, and it was just a fast/quiet/smokeless van.

I am not some radical pro-EV-at-all-costs person, but I would be lying if I said that EVs of all kinds don't bring tons of immediate benefits to me, even as an outside observer who doesn't currently. No noise + no smoke + lots of torque already makes the outside way nicer for passerbys. And it is way more fun for an operator of those too (I happily drove an EV car before for multiple years, until I moved to NYC and stopped driving).

lostlogin10• 18 days ago

I happily drove an EV car before for multiple years, until I moved to NYC and stopped driving

Having followed a similar path, the lifestyle upgrade of moving to an EV, then abandoning car dependant commuting use is great.

In the pouring rain and howling wind I do occasionally wonder what I’m doing, but sitting in a traffic jam is awful.

And, mind you, I ran it with a stock exhaust. I absolutely despise people who install extra-loud (illegal) aftermarket exhausts on purpose, because they know that nobody is gonna enforce it.

Add to this: car stereos and the craze for adding (stolen) school PA speakers for playing obnoxiously loud music.

bborud4• 18 days ago

This is a really weird take that does not resemble any modern Vespa. Are you sure you looked at a modern Vespa and not some old 2 stroke thing?

Also, the range is pretty good. About 160 miles on a full tank, which no electric motorcycle or scooter I've tried can match. Drive it carefully and you can extend that range to probably 180 miles. You'll be lucky to get 80-100 miles out of an electrical motorcycle.

As for torque, sure the smaller Vespas could use more torque, but the 300cc has more than you will ever need in a city. And to be frank, it doesn't do too badly on longer trips either. It is certainly more comfortable than my Ducati.

Update: As for "modern". Note that my 300cc Vespa is about 10 years old now. So it isn't all that new either.

bobthepanda• 18 days ago

admittedly i have not used a vespa myself, only seen. but an e bike is a pretty good mode of motor transport.

odiroot3• 18 days ago

They're noisy, underpowered and way too expensive (also in maintenance). No wonder most of developing world rides Hondas.

jimbokun• 18 days ago

Could they just shove an electric motor into a beautiful Vespa?

kalessin• 18 days ago

Thanks I hate it, extremely noisy and dirty. I really wish the brand dies with fossil fuels.

fooblaster• 18 days ago

Thankfully all this stuff has been or is being killed by ebikes and escooters which are vastly better technology.

kenty• 18 days ago

I hate to say it but good riddance! OK to keep as a classic icon for everything on the road but definitely not something that I would want to continue being popular.

nickthegreek2• 18 days ago

modern vespas are none of those things.

timbit423• 17 days ago

Vespa has electric models now.

timonoko• 18 days ago

The horror that was aluminium engine. You could open and close a screw only twice and goodbye threads.

derefr• 18 days ago

The trade-off being (I'm guessing) that those threads would be pretty easy to re-tap by hand?

dnemmers• 18 days ago

I think the usual move once threads are gone, is to move to a steel threaded insert (helicoil, time-sert, etc)

https://www.mcmaster.com/products/thread-repair-inserts/thre...

TacticalCoder• 18 days ago

Ah ah my youth! I had a Vespa with a 200cc engine, three speeds, from the 80s: this thing would do a wheelie in 1st gear. And very hard to control wheelie for the weight is uneven on a Vespa. My brother had a rare Vespa 125 cc from 1961 or something: when he left the country he sold it to a friend who still owns it.

Another friend of mine --the reason we all had Vespa back then-- could disassemble and reassemble them with his eyes closed, including the engine.

We'd go to flea markets and garage sales around the country looking for Vespa, Lambrettas and even french Solex for sale. Best find was not a Vespa though but a real Honda Monkey Z50.

One day I forgot to put oil in a Vespa and the engine just froze: cylinder expanded in the piston and rear-wheel locked in place. Somehow I didn't crash. I put oil (you typically had oil with you, in a tiny trunk), waited for the thing to cool down: it just started back up (!).

These were the days, thanks for posting that on HN.

P.S: it's really sad we cannot have nice things posted without having the majority of comments being from environmental-jihadists : (

perching_aix2• 18 days ago

without having the majority of comments being from environmental-jihadists

Not to break your wishful thinking filled bubble, but those are very clearly not "will somebody please think about the environment" type comments. Plenty of people simply fucking despise the ever living shit out of this class of vehicle, just in general.

You really don't need to give two hot shits about the environment to find scooters obnoxiously loud smoke factories, to have a problem with that, and to be absolutely fucking over them as a result. Delivery drivers made sure of that in the past years. I'm sure it's much more convenient for you to just file it under your favorite political grift, but I assure you with confidence, the hate on these is entirely self-interested and genuine.

lostlogin10• 18 days ago

the hate on these is entirely self-interested

I’ve never before considered altruistic hate versus self interested hate.

I’ve a foot in both camps over scooter noise and fumes, but do love a good Vespa.

herbst• 18 days ago

I had a 50cc and also could do wheelies. I loved my Vespa, it was always ready for whatever I wanted to do. Sometimes 45kmh, in a warm day even 55.

Lio• 18 days ago

Timeless iconic Italian design.

I'm surprised that the article didn't mention the role Vespa (and Lambretta) played in the British Mod scene.

You can see it's influence in the RAF roundel stickers on bikes in the article.

For anyone interested Quadrophenia is still a fun introduction:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadrophenia_(film)

jgalt212• 18 days ago

Cheryl Tunt: "Mopeds are fun, but you don't want your buddies to see you riding one."

pjmlp4• 18 days ago

Unless you're in UK.

https://lambrettauk.co.uk/post/rockers-vs-mods-a-short-histo...

amelius• 18 days ago

The coolest thing if you're not behind them inhaling their exhaust fumes.

timbit423• 17 days ago

The older ones had more fumes. Newer models are cleaner. There are also electric models now.

akmiller• 18 days ago

…and here I am a dumb American tourist who knew nothing about Vespa’s and was just upset because I couldn’t get my uber and missed my train.

Now I want one!

amarcheschi6• 18 days ago

Piaggio also designed a car (well, more than one including bad prototypes), which unfortunately wasn't sold in italy due to a gentleman's agreement with fiat (fiat being much bigger basically went if you start selling cars, we'll build motorcycles). The English Wikipedia doesn't include this snippet of history, the Italian page does though https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACMA_Vespa_400

pmontra• 18 days ago

Piaggio also designed the Ape (bee) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piaggio_Ape a 3 wheel tiny pickup. It was hugely popular, but of course not as much as the Vespa because of the smaller market. I still see some of them especially in country areas.

amarcheschi6• 18 days ago

Well in italy I definitely see a lot of them although they're not assembled here anymore

The funniest version is the presidential one gifted to the president of the republic in 2008 https://www.museopiaggio.it/it/collezioni/2-piaggio/57-ape-c...

2dvisio• 18 days ago

Still remember driving one with my dad (I was 6) back from a vendemmia (grape harvest) with the back fully loaded of at least 18 100-litre harvest buckets, on a 7-10% slope, which the ape did effortlessly.

rldjbpin• 17 days ago

i lived in an interesting time and place combo where i'd see more apes around than vespas. primarily because we have local alternatives for vespas, which were also levied a lot of import duties to begin with.

while vespas came earlier and had the advantage of interchangeably calling scooters "vespas". however, did not figure out that they both shared the same parent company.

arnejenssen• 18 days ago

This is a nice movie https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8885658/ (Enrico Piaggio - Un sogno italiano)

amarcheschi6• 18 days ago

I will now go off topic a bit. I guess that Americans might not know about it, but Pavarotti enjoyed driving his scooter. There are photos of him in his villa driving his scooter that nowadays might make you think they're Ai generated but they're real and very Italian

https://www.inmoto.it/news/curiosita/2025/08/14-8327674/pava...

lormayna• 18 days ago

I have a Vespa PX 125 from 1984. It's a very robust motorbike, very less maintenance and really funny to drive with the gearshifter. The only problem is about brakes: there are basically useless and you should be really careful on using them, especially if you are driving on wet road. Bad brakes and small wheels is a terrible combination.

Probably the main regret to WFH is not using my Vespa anymore as I did when I was going everyday in the office.

stackedinserter• 18 days ago

It's the coolest thing on 2 wheels only in CBC's imaginary world.

bushwart2• 18 days ago

Vespas are fashionable and cute but the coolest thing on 2 wheels award goes to Simsons of all colors and stripes (2-stroke or electric, pick your poison). In Germany, the grandfathered 2-strokes are also the only way you can legally ride somethibg faster than 45 km/h on a moped license.

lostlogin10• 18 days ago

This sort of thing?

The bars look like an 80s bmx.

https://cdn.pixabay.com/photo/2021/12/27/23/50/motorcycle-68...

bushwart2• 17 days ago

Yes that's a Simson, one of several models

moeffju2• 17 days ago

Second Ride is offering electric conversion kits giving you the best of both worlds: electric scooter, going 60km/h...

goethes_kind• 18 days ago

Meh. I guess people like the style. The Honda Cub had far more impact worldwide and is a superior machine in every aspect.

lostlogin10• 18 days ago

a superior machine in every aspect.

Style?

elevaet• 18 days ago

There's a culture for modding Vespas in Indonesia that I think HN folks would find interesing - check out "Vespa extreme"/"Vespa gembel" - sort of like if mad-max was in the jungle culture of chopping and rebuilding old Vespas into all sorts of wild road machines. Pretty interesting kind of hippie/punk subculture.

CommenterPerson• 18 days ago

These are wild, very creative, Thank you for the reference!

https://youtu.be/uVeVZ-Iugkg

Sam6late2• 18 days ago

I hated our Vespa when I was a kid in the seventies but their calendars were cool. You know that instinct you get when you're slowing down or coming to a stop, where you just want to stick your feet out for balance? Well, every time I did that, I felt like those sharp metal edges on the Vespa were just waiting to scrape my leg or catch my ankle. It wasn't a bike to me; it was a hazard on two wheels. So when the opportunity came to "borrow" it while my father was napping, I gladly handed the honor over to my brother. Off we went, buzzing through the dark to see the aftermath of an airstrike on an oil refinery at the edge of the city. It was pitch black out there, and before we knew it, we'd tipped right into a ditch on the side of the road. Panic was not because we were hurt, but because we were convinced our father would somehow know we'd taken his Vespa. Luckily, a few strangers happened to pass by and helped us haul the thing back up. You'd think we'd have learned our lesson, but soon after, I pulled a similar stunt, this time with our white Volkswagen.

lostlogin10• 18 days ago

Air strikes? Where was this?

Sam6late2• 17 days ago

Homs, Syria https://www.ebay.com/itm/376362709347 What is interesting is that our Volkswagen car is still running til today by the guy who bought from us, in a village there, this car escaped the so called planned obsolescence.

lazyant• 18 days ago

"The first ads for the Vespa featured a woman," said Sarra. "You could call it a kind of feminist design." Well, a big feature of the Vespa design is that, unlike other motorcycles, women (or Scottish men) can ride them with skirts. Surely that helped with their initial popularity.

naishoya• 18 days ago

'Kilt! Whas happ'n tae'e last wee rocket as call't a skirt'

https://www.amazon.com/Kilt-Happened-Person-Called-Skirt/dp/...

But you're not wrong. I haven't rode and actual Vespa, but have been on a Yamaha Vino YJ50 in my full montie gallus kilt, frae bunnet tae brogues.

bborud4• 18 days ago

Reading through the comments I somehow doubt that many have owned or ridden a Vespa that was built in the last 10 years or so.

I've had a 300cc Vespa GTS for a decade now (alongside a few motorcycles) and the thing that is the most striking about it is how relaxing it is to drive. Despite being somewhat heavy, they are very manoeuvrable due to the low center of gravity. The suspension is very good and despite the roads here being awful it just glides over any bumps and smooths them out. The 300cc engine is fairly quiet and provides more torque than you need. When the lights turn green you'll be over the intersection before the motorcyclists have had time to release the clutch and get going.

It does well on the open road too. It isn't a race machine, but it'll do 120km/h (75 mph) which is good enough. And you won't feel stiff and bent when you arrive if you decide to take it on a 6 hour ride.

I didn't get it for the looks/style. Yes, I did think it was a bit of a gimmick. And then I tried it. I thought I was doing 60/kmh when I was doing 80km/h. And it just glided over bumps.

(And yes, I have a motorcycle as well, but I'm European so it means I don't ride a motorcycle to get into road rage incidents. We actually try to get along here)

rconti3• 18 days ago

I'm surprised the small diameter wheels allow for such a good ride.

bborud4• 18 days ago

You're thinking about the stability? That's all down to very low center of gravity.

mulmen6• 18 days ago

The 300GTS is amazing. It can do anything.

Split traffic on the way to the farmers market while getting waves from random people? Easy.

80mph up a hill on the way to the park? Also yes.

Ride through the park to set up a picnic? Not only yes but it literally has a built in cooler.

Just a total zero compromise vehicle.

And you can buy one for what five grand? All other motorcycles (which I have many of) are stupid.

vanderZwan• 18 days ago

You're making it sound like the motorcycle equivalent of the original Fiat Panda 4x4 (well, except that you didn't mention anything about repairability, but you get the vibe I'm going for)

mulmen6• 18 days ago

I love Vespas. I have a bunch of old Hondas that are amazing for different reasons but they’re all motorcycles so people will randomly try to kill me to prove a point. But on a Vespa you can do anything and people will just smile and wave. Literally everyone loves them. I went on a day ride with some friends and while they were refilling their motorcycles I just rode circles around them in the gas station because I could. Then I passed everyone on the highway because I could do that too. They’re hilarious.

lostlogin10• 18 days ago

Possibly the coolest thing I’ve ever seen was a guy coming up to an intersection on a Vespa. Somehow he chucked it sideways and skidded down the lane scrubbing off speed, then straightened up, split the lanes and hit the front as the light went green, and took off.

Completely alarming and rather dangerous to all around him.

incanus77• 18 days ago

I've had a 2016 150cc LXVie in silver with maroon leather since new; have put about 6,000 city miles on it. It's a wonderful machine. I bought it when my wife died after we had taken the motorcycle certification together in anticipation of getting one someday soon. I'm in the process of selling it now, though, as it's time. But it's such an iconic brand and I constantly get thumbs up and even notes left on it.

marques5762• 18 days ago

Vespa VBB 150 from 1969 owner here, love it!

marques5762• 18 days ago

Vespa VBB 150 from 1964 owner here, love it!

ziofill• 18 days ago

In my 20s I tried with two other friends to raise some money from local businesses to sponsor a coast to coast trip in the US on our vespas (I had 1968 150 Sprint Veloce in red). It didn’t work out, but now that I’m in my 40s I understand it would have been a terrible idea ^^’

johnea• 18 days ago

Um, sorry. If you've ever sat behind a poorly maintained vespa at a stop light, and in it's cloud of exhaust when it takes off, then you definitely don't think it's cool...

Same thing for old beetles and VW buses. Total smog creators.

Electric is where it's at.

Can the cool kids catch up?

academicfish• 18 days ago

Heavy, uncomfortable, not eco-friendly, and overpriced.

timbit423• 17 days ago

There are electric models now.

srameshc• 17 days ago

Grew up in India riding my Vespa (LML Vespa). A 150cc scooter. It was very old technology I guess but I never had problems with it. The new Vespa looks very cool and seems to have much better balance. It makes me very happy to see Vespa now on the roads at times where I live. I always think, someday I will buy one.

The Vespa at 80

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