Players are fixing Microsoft Flight Simulator’s monuments with Google Maps

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2020/08/28/players-are-fixing-microsoft-flight-simulators-missing-monuments-with-google-maps/

by danso • 6 years ago

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cableshaft• 6 years ago

I knew this would happen eventually, only a matter of time. I'm really excited for how souped up everything will look in a year or two.

panpanna• 6 years ago

Is MSFS was just a front to improve Bing Maps for free?

LeoPanthera• 6 years ago

Only if developing a modern flight simulator is free.

bronco21016• 6 years ago

I would imagine it’s at least a break even right? They do charge for it after all.

selectodude• 6 years ago

Yeah, and as a way to advertise the crazy cool stuff you can do with Azure Maps.

DevKoala• 6 years ago

How much do you think it cost to build the software?

notatoad3• 6 years ago

that was my first thought too, but the article says these models are being used by users saving them to the "community" folder in their game install. the models aren't being submitted for inclusion into the official map.

(if they were, google might have something to say about all this)

mastax• 6 years ago

Microsoft doesn't get to import the data. This all ends up in user made mods.

giancarlostoro3• 6 years ago

Its Open Street Maps who benefits most. Microsoft uses OSM data from what I can tell, they get their imagery from other companies.

AmericanChopper3• 6 years ago

I think the best solution would be for Microsoft to allow the public to submit models for review to be included in Bing maps. I don’t think they want FS to become the sort of “game” where you install it, and then you have to also install hundreds of mods to get the proper experience from it (like Cities: Skylines). It would also have the knock-on benefit to MS of having lots of motivated people to crowdsource Bing maps improvements from.

TylerE2• 6 years ago

Flight Sim modding was a thing long before modding for other games...

FS engines are basically mod hosts.

High-end aircraft addons use it for little more than a graphics engine - they have their own code to run instruments, systems, engines, and even the actual flight model.

masklinn2• 6 years ago

Flight Sim modding was a thing long before modding for other games...

That’s unlikely to be true, game modding is at least as old as the flight sim franchise.

actuator• 6 years ago

Isn't Super Missile Attack mod for Missile Command from 1981, the first mod for a game?

occamrazor• 6 years ago

This could become a problem if users use Google’s data to create the models they submit to MS.

northwest65• 6 years ago

Maybe regurgitating physical properties of real world objects is a bit like ripping song lyrics from other providers. Would be enjoyable to see Google get some of their own medicine.

Stevvo2• 6 years ago

Google tried with Earth and the warehouse; it didn't work out because quality was inconsistent.

Nition5• 6 years ago

I don’t think they want FS to become the sort of “game” where you install it, and then you have to also install hundreds of mods to get the proper experience from it

This has been the case for Flight Simulator scenery since at least Flight Simulator 4 (1989), so although it's nice to have good scenery out of the box, it's not really anything new. You don't really need "hundreds" though because you just get scenery for the areas you want to fly.

AmericanChopper3• 6 years ago

I’m aware of the history of modding. But it will kill the value prop of this product if you have to install mods to get high quality scenery. The most significant innovation of this product isn’t that you get to fly the routes you want to fly. It’s that it maps literally the entire world. You can fire it up and fly from anywhere to anywhere. If you have to fire it up, and then spend a couple of hours finding and installing mods every time you get the urge to fly a new route, you may as well not bother.

You don't really need "hundreds"

You’re right about this. If one mod = one model, you’ll need hundreds of thousands.

sillysaurusx• 6 years ago

Also see this 212-floor monolith added by accident in Melbourne, Australia: https://twitter.com/liamosaur/status/1296305264870662144

fireattack• 6 years ago

This is interesting. I thought they use aerial/satellite data to generate 3D models, didn't know they rely on things like floor number. But isn't floor height vary a lot? Also I guess it's not the only info they use either?

Macha• 6 years ago

The problem comes from a typo by an OSM editor, as they also import OSM data for some areas (this is a 2 way relationship, they allow OSM to trace their satellite images to build out OSM's database)

coding123• 6 years ago

Floor heights do, but from the perspective of just getting as much usable data as they can so you can see the 3d buildings, whatever works, right?

ehnto• 6 years ago

I'm pretty sure it's a mixture, as not all cities will have LIDAR/3D scan data available. The Melbourne CBD is accurately modeled, but the outskirts look like procedural generation.

hetspookjee• 6 years ago

I wonder if Google or Microsoft would stop this indirect way of copying through Google Maps. I think Google would claim copyright on the 3d scanned data that is available through Google Maps. Without this the Open Source community wouldn't be able to as easily shovel this over through programs into MSFS.

Though I think Microsoft would be out of harms way for as long as they don't blatantly paste back the user improved buildings. However, obviously not all improvements are gathered from Google Maps and dependent on the scale this might become an issue in detecting these.

cma• 6 years ago

There would be no copyright on a 3D scan in most jurisdictions, but maybe on any manual cleanup work.

sgtnoodle2• 6 years ago

A 3D scan seems like it would be as copyrightable as a photograph would be.

macspoofing• 6 years ago

Reminds me of the Bing IE toolbar 'copying' Google search results 10 years ago [1]. It turned out it wasn't that Bing was actively copying Google search results, but rather it was learning what search terms entered into the toolbar correlated with what page users went to after the query was executed.

[1]https://www.wired.com/2011/02/bing-copies-google/

tomerico• 6 years ago

So they listened to the search queries configured to Google and learned the clicked results. How is that not copying Google's search results?

maxerickson• 6 years ago

It's a violation of Google's TOS to extract the data (so copyright doesn't matter a lot).

echelon2• 6 years ago

It's against Genius' TOS to copy their lyrics.

ookdatnog• 6 years ago

I don't understand copyright law particularly well, but I'd expect it does matter here.

The TOS only applies to the person extracting the data. So if person A extracts the data, violating TOS, then puts it up on a website where it is downloaded by person B (who did not necessarily ever agree to Google Maps' TOS), then only A has broken TOS, B hasn't. But B may have violated Google's copyright.

Is that right or am I missing something?

systemvoltage• 6 years ago

Aside: I wish FS2020 had more indepth tutorials, more focus towards learning how to fly properly and a ground school with missions. The built-in tutorial is so lacking, it doesn't even teach you how to use a VOR for navigation. I think they've done simulation/realism of the physics right and the way the airplane feels is very real - just the education part should be more of a focus than the pure entertainment bits.

aaomidi• 6 years ago

And just more specific tutorials for plane types.

But YouTube has been great for that.

mhh__3• 6 years ago

DCS is quite like that, in that if you want to learn the systems there are some decent lessons for some planes but none of them cover things like BFM or (server!) etiquette. Luckily there is a thriving online community to help you learn the ropes, although it is rather annoying sometimes to be just fumbling around.

The F-14's AI RIO "Jester" can actually guide you through startup, which is very cool

ethbro• 6 years ago

DCS? https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/products/ ?

(It's been Janes-90s since I sim'd)

kitteh• 6 years ago

DCS has put some great training tutorials that come with it. That combined with Chuck's super detailed and colorful PDFs guides for each aircraft as amazing.

Agree that multiplayer how-to's is lacking.

HenryKissinger• 6 years ago

It's called flight school, and it's not free.

Shared404• 6 years ago

Neither are airplanes. Why would a sim not teach you how to use the sim?

mhh__3• 6 years ago

Even if you could afford it not everyone is medically able to fly a plane.

freeone3000• 6 years ago

Neither is the sim!

ShellfishMeme• 6 years ago

I was doing the takeoff tutorial and was wondering why 10 minutes in it still seemed impossible to get to the desired altitude and speed. Turns out they never mentioned that you need to eventually move the flaps back. Once I figured it out by myself I pretty much instantly made it. What kind of tutorial is it where you need to already know how a plane works to learn how a plane works?

g_p4• 6 years ago

The current training "missions" seem to be straightforward "ports" of the old training missions from FSX/FS 2004, but without the ground school written material to match.

I'm hopeful with the advent of YouTube and high quality video capture and streaming, we'll see video-based ground school lessons emerge that can partner with lessons.

Who knows, perhaps there's a mini business model here for creators to sell (via Patreon or even the built-in store?) curated mission lessons that go along with their YouTube content? I believe MS has confirmed you'll be able to make mission packs and distribute them via the store. And given how fast the modding is taking off, you probably already can drag a folder into your Community packages folder and have it work.

pirocks• 6 years ago

In a real plane you can fairly easily exceed the maximum extended speed for flaps, and break them. Don't know exactly how fs2020 handles this, but xplane displays a warning and then simulates the effects of asymmetric lift caused by one set of of flaps failing.

jamesbfb• 6 years ago

You wouldn’t be the first, I swear I’ve seen an episode or 2 of Air Crash Investigations where some unsuspecting pilot forgets to retract the flaps, causing something disastrous.

quaa55• 6 years ago

i noticed my logitech quadrants mixture at 100%~=50% actual mixture which gave me a hellaciously slow c152.

seemed about 70% mixture gave me best performance.

mav3rick• 6 years ago

Hey, try this guy's tutorials. Very thorough - https://youtu.be/t_yOXAKjyHs

Poacher5• 6 years ago

There's an excellent book called "Flight Sim X For Pilots" that's essentially just a walkthrough of flight school, starting in a piper cub and gradually progressing through to instruments flying and multiengine flying. I think it's probably a bit dated now, but it's an excellent source of information for how to do things properly in a sim, since it's aimed at real aspiring pilots.

keriati1• 6 years ago

I think the tutorials are not so useful in the game, however they gave me some basics. I spent some hours on YouTube and from zero flying knowlege, I can say I am now familiar with the Cessna 152 Takof, landing, navigation and also with the 172 with G1000 (including ILS). Wish all this introductions would be in the game.

However the overall experience is still very Beta. I got a lot of freezes, bugs on map (like a big bump on some runways that flip the airplane and game over) sometimes the nav get unresponsive (partial freeze of the game)

Even worse is that after you buy the game on steam, any in-app purchase is done on steam but download would be from microsoft and that just doesn’t work for a bunch of people.

At least this free models are just working when people copy them in place, while payed content is not even showing up at the moment.

g_p4• 6 years ago

Flight Sim 2004 probably was the peak of tutorials - they effectively had a full "ground school" of how to fly, with content by an actual flight instructor (Rod Machodo).

That content had written lessons (something also makes me think video lessons, but I may be remembering wrongly) that took you through the theory and practice of things like VOR navigation.

I'm not too optimistic for it appearing on Flight Sim 2020, (it probably required too much attention span and understanding of geography/navigation), but I imagine that the community will step up.

Already the community is doing a great job "fixing" the default A320 and implementing bits of the avionics systems that Asobo left "inop". There's a mission editor that should enable setting up interactive "lessons", and with the number of youtube videos on how to fly VORs and similar (some with flight sim footage and explanations), I imagine the content is all there for curating together.

kebman2• 6 years ago

Why make it yourself, when there's a ton of creators who would do it for you, and for free? Just let the best ones get the ad revenue and Patreon profits. I call it passive outsourcing.

dmd2• 6 years ago

I want the opposite. I don't really want to control a plane - I want "dream flight" - just basically a 6-axis controller that lets me move however I want - but in the gorgeous FS2020 world.

I think MS should make that available on the web as part of Bing Maps.

sio8ohPi3• 6 years ago

I've not installed FS2020 yet, but from what I've seen in reviews, I believe "drone mode" can be untethered from your plane and allows you to do just that.

gearhart• 6 years ago

I used the google maps VR app the other day and it is exactly this. It’s incredible.

bitL5• 6 years ago

Just press "Y" and then play with F1-F4 and numeric pad. Basically UFO mode.

Mountain_Skies2• 6 years ago

I wonder who is the person doing the voice over in the built-in tutorial. She sounds like the same person who provided the voice of Delilah in Firewatch.

0134340• 6 years ago

Or I wouldn't be opposed to a printed manual. I remember the first flight sim I bought, one of the Jane's series, had a huge binded manual with it that I used to read during study hall at school. Just reading it and learning about the basics and physics of flight I found more interesting than the game itself. I miss those huge manuals from big box PC games.

dragonwriter• 6 years ago

Back in the DOS days, Flight Simulator had an awesome printed manual, with detailed how to fly instructions and, IIRC, a whole bunch of airport maps.

More generally, the manuals of 80s-90s simulation games were often quite packed with detailed real-world info.

rogerthis• 6 years ago

I think FAA has some nice material publicly available.

blt• 6 years ago

X-plane is also pretty bad for this. It has VOR and ILS tutorials, but nothing more advanced navigationally (like navigating to the intersection of two VOR radials), nothing about crosswind landing, nothing for the more complex aircraft, etc.

However, the flip side is that the simulation is generally realistic enough that you can use instructional materials for real world piloting. The VOR frequencies match the real world, the real SIDs and STARs are in the simulated Garmin GPS, etc.

Not sure how much this holds for FS2020.

strogonoff3• 6 years ago

Have you come across “How to fly”[0]? X-Plane does have some guides, though they tend to be maybe too expansive sometimes.

That aside, there are folks who work on their pilot licenses and stream flight sims, I have learned a fair bit from watching them on YouTube.

Ideally as you say one should just be able to use real-world pilot training materials, navigational charts and aircraft checklists (for B737, for example, there is an unofficial iOS checklist app). Then all that’s left is documentation of sim’s limitations—a good sim should tell you in what aspects it fails to simulate the real world.

It’s actually really rewarding to be able to figure out (mostly) on your own how to complete an IFR flight, given just the charts and the 6 basic analog instruments.

(Same here, X-Plane and no MSFS—as far as I heard, the 2020 version is still outdated as far as simulation of the actual physics of flight is concerned and seems to not have changed much from FSX days.)

[0] https://www.x-plane.com/manuals/desktop/index.html#modernmea...

tamrix• 6 years ago

That's what youtube is for these days.

towndrunk• 6 years ago

Free from the FAA. https://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/handbooks_manuals/a...

megablast• 6 years ago

Why bother with VOR when we have GPS? they are decommissioning VOR stations for that reason.

tjohns• 6 years ago

The are decommissioning some of the redundant VOR stations. The VOR network will remain operational as a backup to GPS. (See: "VOR minimum operational network")

When it comes to life-critical systems, you never rely on a single point of failure. GPS is potentially a single point of failure. It can and does have errors, either due to military jamming exercises, satellite failures, or other interference. I've personally had the GPS system in my aircraft completely fail due to interference.

It's also worth noting that the FAA considers VOR navigation a required skill. It's part of the core material on the test as a private pilot.

bradgessler• 6 years ago

Focus of 2020 was to put together a solid simulator experience, which it seems like they’ve mostly done. Gameplay improvements and educational material were stated to be coming in subsequent releases.

Pfhreak• 6 years ago

I haven't found it that bad, I started with most assists on, then figured out one thing at a time by googling or YouTube or watching a stream.

Like, flaps, what are they? Oh, generate lift, used in takeoff and landing. Oh, the cabin is marked with settings for to and land.

The autopilot was a similar adventure. Step one, turn it on, crash. Step two, I can figure out hold altitude and heading settings, now I can take my hands off and Google the rest of the settings while the plane flies itself. Garmin has a manual you can reference.

Right now I'm working on figuring out autopilot approach and landing and nav data stations.

skykooler• 6 years ago

It's also missing aircraft help data. In FSX, you had a checklist that contained stuff like takeoff speed, landing speed, climb rate, ideal flap settings, and so on. In FS2020, the checklist basically only contains instructions on how to start the engine.

chinhodado• 6 years ago

I don't understand. Are the models actually missing from Bing maps, or did MS remove them for copyright reasons?

notatoad3• 6 years ago

the models aren't missing so much as just terrible. bing doesn't have detailed 3d representations of every building and geographical feature on earth, they're creating them algorithmically from aerial photography.

sometimes, that results in things like the sydney harbour bridge being rendered as a featureless rectangle.

colejohnson66• 6 years ago

they're creating them algorithmically from aerial photography.

Google does the same thing. You used to be able to use SketchUp to model buildings for them, but, a few years ago, they switched to computer generated models. It was very obvious from the pointy trees and rough edges on buildings.

IshKebab2• 6 years ago

The flight simulator buildings are procedurally generated, guided by an AI. They probably went this route because it makes better looking buildings with fewer polygons and less disk space.

99% of the time it works great because you don't really care if a virtual house exactly matches the real house. You just want to see some realistic looking housing estates.

However the downside is when you go and see some well known landmark. They didn't write a procedural palace generation routine so when the AI sees Buckingham Palace it has to pick the closes "normal" building which is apparently an office block.

I suspect the best way to fix that would be to detect when the AI fails and fall back to Google Maps style scanning, which looks worse, but actually matches reality. You could also do landmark detection fairly easily - Bing Maps must have enough data about what people search for and take photos of.

Nition5• 6 years ago

Where "Google Maps style" 3D buildings and terrain are available, it's used in MSFS. It's just that there are many places without it, where the game only has a 2D satellite map to work with (plus some extra data that's available like number of floors in the buildings). In those cases it uses the AI generation.

bitL5• 6 years ago

It's a common trick to use building footprints for the basic shape, elevation data for the building height and prevailing colors for estimating roof and wall structure. It's still much better than having all buildings flat. They likely trained their ML algo on many different building photos from the orbit to output e.g. roof type, wall type etc.

giancarlostoro3• 6 years ago

Some data Bing uses comes from Open Street Maps. If its not in all the other sources of data for Microsoft and it lacks data in OSM then it will be missing.

Mountain_Skies2• 6 years ago

Maybe in a year or so from now once they have enough usage telemetry and have cleaned up some of the errors, they'll be willing to release an Ultimate Edition on a terabyte SSD that includes the sim and the scenery that is most commonly used. That would make a nicer "out of the box" experience and would make things better for those with limited bandwidth or data caps.

ec1096852• 6 years ago

Amazing that would only cost $34 for the drive: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FGZBCWQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_ax...

raphlinus• 6 years ago

That's not a 1TB USB drive, it's a tapestry. Then they took the listing for that and changed it to a USB drive so they could harvest the 5 star reviews.

Amazon has turned into a flea market.

dawnerd2• 6 years ago

That's such a total scam.

alphanumeric0• 6 years ago

Now Microsoft just needs to update their flight modeling to use blade element simulation like X-Plane.

strogonoff3• 6 years ago

I’d rather see X-Plane improve graphics instead. Feels better to support a small shop rather than give my money to one behemoth of a corporation.

X-Plane dev team are chill and host live video Q&A sometimes, I think they have been porting graphics from OpenGL to Vulcan & Metal lately so there’s hope.

himinlomax• 6 years ago

Google should them by providing them with Google Earth data in order to compete with Microsoft.

matthewmcg• 6 years ago

The last few betas have decent Metal support on recent Macs.

rosywoozlechan• 6 years ago

I was curious as to what the impact would be on Bing's map product. The flight sim community is fixing these landmarks and creating files that players then have to import locally, this doesn't bring improvements over into Bing. Microsoft doesn't gain anything from this.

kabacha• 6 years ago

Microsoft doesn't gain anything from this

Of course they do. They get PR and at worst case scenario they get quality QA.

johnghanks• 6 years ago

Isn't the joke on Google in this case as MS has successfully gameified "stealing" assets from Google to be used in Bing Maps?

seventhtiger• 6 years ago

Isn't that what Ingress tried to do first? And the Google local guide program seems quite successful.

demarq• 6 years ago

I hope someone at MS is doing this intentionally. This could be the ultimate tactical move by Microsoft

Getting your competitors most loyal customers to build your platform willingly

giancarlostoro3• 6 years ago

It would wind up in OSM which means it will wind up helping much more than just Microsoft.

endless1234• 6 years ago

"To be used in Bing Maps" is a bit of a stretch. They're models shared by users you can import one by one into your install of MSFS.

bitL5• 6 years ago

While I see FS2020 as a monumental achievement and a great version 1, my main gripes with it are mostly related to the 3D elevation data handling, simplification and rendering:

- steep surfaces are both too rounded and textures look like a stretched pixel strip across the whole surface; most mountains look very underwhelming when nearby and flying inside Grand Canyon/Marble Canyon looks weird

- some 3D tiles aren't linked properly, leading to sudden discontinuities in the surface; try to e.g. fly through the Remarkables mountains north to Queenstown, NZ

- some water bodies are upside down, instead of being in a valley they were processed as "aqueducts"; see Victoria Falls in Africa for a very long "aqueduct"

- certain geographic locations have invisible borders one can crash into; try to land in the Badwater basin in Death Valley

- when cities switch from procedural to photogrammetry, the detailed city doesn't match its surroundings color-wise and usually ends up very dark

- many bridges include water underneath as a wall; SF Bay is full of them

- satellite imagery is not consistent (usually corresponds to Bing Maps one) and in many places one can see sharp borders between tiles coming from different satellite scans

- some interesting parts of the world don't have consistently high resolution like Maldives or Kamchatka

- roads are often projected as textures onto a steep terrain and no effort was made to carve them out

- certain type of green is sometimes misidentified as a forest, leading to obscuring some great views like Kalalau lookout on Kauai etc.

- some taller buildings end up looking like pyramids from a distance due to the used shape simplification algorithm; I saw German pyramids near Mannheim that way

Rebelgecko• 6 years ago

The quantity of trees in the game is a bit insane. My hometown in the Sonoran desert looks like a rainforest.

The most common tree there is a palm tree, which the game usually represents as a sort of bizarre obelisk. What they've done with the game is super impressive, but it's really put them into the uncanny valley when there's goofy inconsistencies with reality. I've noticed similar height issues with streetlights, freeway overpasses, etc

Stevvo2• 6 years ago

"certain geographic locations have invisible borders one can crash into; try to land in the Badwater basin in Death Valley"

The technical reason behind this bug is that Badwater Basin is below sea level; the game thinks you have crashed into the ocean.

bitL5• 6 years ago

I ran into a similar problem while trying to fly into Wadi Mujib in Jordan so you might be right - Dead Sea is also below sea level.

rob742• 6 years ago

Yeah, who would have thought that there are (dry) locations on Earth that are below sea level? Apparently you can't expect software developers / testers nowadays to be aware of that...

LoSboccacc• 6 years ago

the game thinks you have crashed into the ocean.

then how come you can land at Schiphol?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjZrizIg2CQ

golergka• 6 years ago

Well, that just adds to the realism.

https://www.avgeekery.com/challenge-flying-sea-level/

dawnerd2• 6 years ago

But at the same time, go back and look at the older flight sims and its pretty obvious how dated they are. FSX for example looks like a complete joke with all the faked autogen and really low resolution maps. Yes it can look good but you have to spend a lot of time (and money) on add ons.

I'm pretty hopeful with time they'll iron out at least the most obvious cases.

cricalix2• 6 years ago

There's also the case of the rendering completely missing that things are cliffs (even small ones). If you jump to Barbados' airport and go to the north of the island, the rendering is of gentle sloping land (and static wave imagery crashing on to the shore) - the north end of Barbados is an old reef, and it sure as heck doesn't slope gently to the sea (see [0]). Alas, I have no idea how to give feedback about this to the developers so that it can join the long list of "stuff to fix, some day".

0: https://www.cricalix.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/DSC_3615...

cricalix2• 6 years ago

And to reply to myself, in case anyone else is wondering - there's a Zendesk site for filing reports.

https://flightsimulator.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

jaywalk• 6 years ago

Detroit Metro Airport (DTW) has some roads that go under runways and taxiways. In the game, those roads are rendered at surface level, and the vehicles simply disappear when they get to a runway or taxiway.

aimor• 6 years ago

I'm surprised the game doesn't make more use of Microsoft's existing building data and aerial photography. Maybe someone can explain. But Bing maps has very detailed 3D building shape data and aerial "Birds Eye" photography. But in MFS2020 when I fly over neighborhoods with lots of trees the houses get mangled in ridiculous ways. Why would they only use low fidelity satellite imagery for this?

fjfaase• 6 years ago

It might be that architectural designs are copyrighted as well in the countries and maybe that different rules apply when you want to use a design in a game than using it in an information service, such as a mapping service.

kebman2• 6 years ago

Have they fixed the castle (Kastro) in Myrina / Μύρινα on Lemnos yet (Kavala in Arma 3)? I saw a nice vide of it here, complete with a comparison with Arma 3: Exploring Arma 2's Chernarus and Arma 3's Altis' REAL WORLD AREAS in Microsoft Flight Sim 2020! by OperatorDrewski https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGcMyYL17PQ I think a lot of Arma 3 fans owning MS Flight Sim will want to fly over there. :)

tjungblut• 6 years ago

Flying over the Redmond campus over the weekend, I found it quite sad that they didn't really put some effort into it. It looks quite flat and unpolished.

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