Glenn Greenwald's news site, The Intercept, is up

by kseistrup • 12 years ago

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gkoberger• 12 years ago

I was really hoping for something... more. This looks like a mediocre blog template, not "the future of journalism on the web". (I don't think anyone's actually claimed it will be, but given Greenwald's track record -- even before Snowden -- I was hoping it would be.)

The second article (https://firstlook.org/theintercept/article/2014/02/10/new-ph...) is a bit closer to what I had imagined, although the lack of cohesion across the site leaves a lot to be desired.

At the end of the day, though, I guess the only thing that matters is the words.

logn• 12 years ago

I think their new direction for journalism is not about design aesthetics. It's about journalistic integrity and a business model that supports it.

kome• 12 years ago

The Finger and the Moon.

dameyawn• 12 years ago

I'm sure the UI will improve over time. What's important is hopefully a truly independent investigative news source with legit journalists!

Ronsenshi• 12 years ago

I am glad that they are focusing on the content itself instead of fancy stuff. Websites like The Verge or Polygon were exciting at first, but all that flair and gradients got old really soon. I'd like to concentrate on words instead. Sprinkle couple of images related to the text and i'll be very happy.

P.S.: I do think that Intercept could be a little bit more solid, less generic design-wise with its own style.

dublinben3• 12 years ago

I can't even read the Verge except for their mobile site. The desktop experience is so heavy and bloated, that I just leave before finding the article I want to read.

watwut• 12 years ago

Glen Greenwald is more journalist then designer or css guru. When he brags about "the future of journalism on the web" he means content.

kubiiii• 12 years ago

I do think that the appearance of this new media matters. If not, why using a template at all? Or even pictures? Only the words matters, thats why the presentation should not be distracting and using a random template is.

toyg• 12 years ago

I'm more disappointed by the apparent lack of a business model, beyond the usual Mecenate/sugar-daddy relationship with Omidyar. He's starting from scratch, in 2014, with a talented group of young guns, a huge trove of stories and a lot of publicity... he has a chance at really defining something innovative for the industry, beyond fancy graphics and hard-hitting content in the same old package. I hope they have better plans for the near future.

ceejayoz• 12 years ago

The revenue model is currently "we don't care, Omidyar has committed to spending at least the $250M he didn't spend on the Washington Post". At their current staffing, that probably goes quite a ways.

rquantz• 12 years ago

Adding to the chorus of people who disagree with you, I'd like to also say that this was put up very quickly. I'm sure when time permits they'll build out the front end further.

a3n3• 12 years ago

MVP?

cylinder• 12 years ago

The comments also threaten to derail the project. Conspiracy theorists abound and not really any filtering system to bring good comments above the fray. I'm not really sure why these articles even need user comments. They make the site feel like Infowars.

axefrog• 12 years ago

Now that Glenn Greenwald has pretty much only himself to answer to, it'll be interesting to see what he publishes that he might not have, had he stayed at The Guardian. I'm a little concerned that his domain name firstlook.org is hosted through GoDaddy. Anything particularly damning could have authorities asking GoDaddy to take his domain from him, and the fact that his servers are hosted in California provides a second potential point of government interference.

amirmc• 12 years ago

Greenwald's been asked, given how things seem to be, whether he would set things up outside the US. ISTR he stated that the Constitution (and First Amendment) still exist and the US is the most appropriate place for the NewCo. I think it was in an interview with Kirsty Wark for Newsnight.

EDIT: I misremembered the exact words as he actually comments on press freedom in the US. Here's the point in the interview. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=f1Z...

dublinben3• 12 years ago

The US might be a good place for the servers, but GoDaddy has proven to be an unreliable registrar in the past. They should at least be using a provider that supports a free internet.

jonknee2• 12 years ago

I'm sure he's got backup servers. He's also got a multibillionaire backer, a great counterpoint to government interference.

leobelle• 12 years ago

How does a backup server help you with a domain name registrar taking your domain away? And how does it help you with government interference? What?

theklub• 12 years ago

someone should set him on a .bit domain or mirror.

skywhopper2• 12 years ago

Not to be too cynical, but I'm guessing Glenn would be delighted for the government to try to interfere with his publishing.

They managed to get to him via his Brazilian partner while he was in the UK. So what is there to lose at this point?

If the US government does want to mess with Glenn some more, he'll have the benefit of the fact that US courts do recognize some additional rights to being on US soil. And for PR purposes, being fully on US soil is also advantageous.

Not to say that he's fishing for it, but the US can screw with your Internet hosting no matter where it is, and he'll get more protection, more attention, and more sympathy if it's all located in the US.

wmeredith• 12 years ago

He doesn't have to be fishing for it. He's conducting the business of journalism in good faith and in accordance with US laws governing freedom of the press. If they're stupid enough to mess with him, it will blow up in their faces. Nothing ensures the publicity of something online like trying to take it down. Streisand affect: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

TeMPOraL• 12 years ago

I'm a little concerned that his domain name firstlook.org is hosted through GoDaddy. Anything particularly damning could have authorities asking GoDaddy to take his domain from him (...)

Part of me hopes he did this on purpose, so that whe GoDaddy makes a move, it will unleash unseen amounts of Internet rage that maybe, finally, will take GoDaddy down for good.

morkbot• 12 years ago

Seems that Hacker News' duplicate detection is seriously flawed, this was a huge story yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7209397

hayksaakian• 12 years ago

Slash at the end, in one, and not the other.

You could make the case that these would represent different resources on some sites, although your point is correct.

genderup• 12 years ago

FirstLook plans to earn money by selling technology solutions rather than through its journalism (which is not for profit). With that in mind, one would have expected something a little more 'innovative' on the technology side for their first publication.

MysticFear• 12 years ago

I would love to see more serious news sites use tipping with cryptocurrencies. I think it would benefit their bottom lines and help them become sustainable.

a3n3• 12 years ago

Notice the staff's about pages. They include public keys and other security artifacts. That's different.

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/staff/peter-maass/

dublinben3• 12 years ago

That's different.

Maybe for a media organization. Not for a technology organization.

https://www.fsf.org/about/staff-and-board/

jere• 12 years ago

The editorial independence of our journalists will be guaranteed. They will be encouraged to pursue their passions, cultivate a unique voice, and publish stories without regard to whom they might anger or alienate.

When we speak about guarantees here it usually has a stronger meaning, but even so, how could one guarantee anything like this?

skywhopper2• 12 years ago

HTTPS by default with a good score from SSLLabs[1], a SecureDrop implementation, and public keys posted for all of their staff. They clearly are taking this seriously. Good for them.

[1] https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=firstlook.org

dmix• 12 years ago

They are also looking into replacing Google Analytics with an open alternative, such as Piwik.

https://twitter.com/the_intercept/status/432970191308218368

sshconnection• 12 years ago

Someone should help him out with thumbnails...

Glenn Greenwald's news site, The Intercept, is up

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