John C. Dvorak has died

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by coleca • 3 hours ago

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Jimmc414• 2 hours ago

Used to watch him regularly on ZDTV. RIP

asdefghyk• 2 hours ago

I first become aware of John C. Dvorak in Byte magazine, ( back in the 80s?) to me he was a respected insigtful interesting content wrighter.

The post link above says he was 74, THe wikipedia page says 80. I gues one will be corrected. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C._Dvorak

RIP

CodyMorley• 59 minutes ago

Dvorak hated that for decades wikipedia had the wrong birth year and refused to let him change it. He wrote at length about how wikipedia is the antithesis of the entire conception of a wiki. He was 80, born in 1946.

jhgb• 37 minutes ago

I found very quickly an NYT article from 1993 that listed his date of birth as "April 5, 1952". I don't know if that's the source for the Wikipedia article but that info has been around for a long time, it seems.

browningstreet• 2 hours ago

RIP

thundercleeze• 2 hours ago

What a bummer.

greatquux• 2 hours ago

Damn.. images of glossy PC Magazines that I used to read are filling my head.. growing up in the 80s & 90s with computer building and reselling as the family business, and just being excited about new technology, and he was a part of that.

SeenNotHeard• 1 hour ago

In my youth, his InfoWorld columns were appointment reading. A one-of-a-kind in the industry.

alexitosrv• 1 hour ago

Agree, and the sad thing for me now is not being able to find an equivalent space of such crankiness against the way things are going with an authoritative voice.

paulpauper• 1 hour ago

Last tweet by him just 2 days ago.

giancarlostoro• 1 hour ago

For those like me wondering if he's also the creator of the Dvorak keyboard, no but close!

He is a nephew of sociologist August Dvorak, creator of the Dvorak keyboard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C._Dvorak

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_keyboard_layout

SirFatty• 59 minutes ago

He was the creator of Cranky Geeks. One of the first podcasts I listened to.

jmspring• 41 minutes ago

He’s also been a bit right wing cranky in his twitter feed.

echelon• 39 minutes ago

This is sad.

I grew up watching his show on Tech TV.

He used to butt heads with Leo Laporte and it was great:

https://youtu.be/C96YG7qzN80?t=142

moffkalast• 9 minutes ago

August Dvorak's father's, brother's, nephew's, cousin's, former roommate.

delfugal• 1 hour ago

Dvorak shaped the emerging PC industry. Larger than life figure. Sad he's not here for the AI takeover.

Centigonal• 1 hour ago

That tiny 1"x1.5" thumbnail[1] of John C. Dvorak in PC Magazine was the essence of Gravitas for me as a kid.

[1]https://archive.org/details/PC-Mag-1999-12-14/page/88/mode/2...

mlinhares• 57 minutes ago

same, read a lot of what he wrote back then.

arm322• 57 minutes ago

What a legend.

stonedge• 40 minutes ago

I used to transcribe his articles to a text file and post them to Usenet. Fond memories of that time.

havaloc• 1 hour ago

I loved reading his columns at PC Magazine growing up, it's an end of an era. He had such an interesting view of the PC industry as a whole and his column was almost always the first thing I read when a new issue would arrive at my house.

chollida1• 1 hour ago

Oh man, that's an old school name.

I miss cranky geeks, to the point where I've gone back to listen to older episodes.

ChrisMarshallNY2• 1 hour ago

I miss them so much, I became one!

otterley• 26 minutes ago

How can you miss cranky geeks when HN is full of them?

rbanffy4• 8 minutes ago

We miss each other.

But it’s ok. We’ll meet again at the great Apple Store in Heaven.

In heaven, macOS is GNU-licensed. GPL3+, nothing less.

xbar• 1 hour ago

He was a thoughtful and insightful writer. I eagerly awaited his PC Magazine article every single week.

freeAgent• 1 hour ago

That’s very sad. I enjoyed his contributions to PC Mag and TWiT.

overgard• 1 hour ago

Sad news, I grew up reading his column.

rhymeswithjazz• 1 hour ago

I clicked on this link with my 'experimental pointing device called a mouse'. Rest in peace from all the ships at sea.

cjboco• 1 hour ago

Was this the guy that always had it out for Apple, and was somewhat notorious with bad Apple predictions?

marknutter• 1 hour ago

I loved listening to him on TWiT and other shows/podcasts. RIP, what a legend.

davidwritesbugs• 1 hour ago

He was the house curmudgeon - hilarious

1970-01-01• 1 hour ago

https://www.pcmag.com/authors/john-c-dvorak

He went all-in on his takes. Most were on the money, some were big misses. He was very good at what he did. R.I.P.

https://www.pcmag.com/opinions/reddits-wild-west-experiment-...

https://www.pcmag.com/opinions/the-30-year-ai-scare-cycle

https://www.pcmag.com/opinions/the-dark-ages-of-search

https://www.pcmag.com/opinions/enough-with-the-3d-printer-hy...

ChrisMarshallNY2• 1 hour ago

I'd say this def rates a black bar.

relex• 1 hour ago

RIP, gonna mis listening to your conversations with Adam, link to the last no agenda show (podcast): https://www.noagendashow.net/listen/1887

ratelimitsteve• 1 hour ago

Still an opportunity to edit his wiki if anyone wants to be the official Bear of Bad News(tm)

ColdStream• 59 minutes ago

Credit to him, he always had a bold take.

One of the funniest things he used to do was write draft reviews of software simply by looking at the back of the box. He said you could get it like 90% right just doing that, I was a different era.

I also remember Leo Laporte constantly trying to take his phone back of him as John was trying to guess his passcode or unlock pattern based on the screen smudges.

Didn't agree with him at lot but he always brought something to the table.

donatj• 49 minutes ago

Most of what I know him for was coming on TWiT, driving Leo Laporte nuts, and making claims that ended up not coming true.

He was a hilarious curmudgeon. He will be missed.

acomjean• 20 minutes ago

Curmudgeon is the perfect term to describe.

He was a great part of TWIT. I liked his obscure software references (lotus Jazz was one I think).

He also found this new thing is like that old thing.

His non positive takes were a great addition to the show.

adamrezich2• 37 minutes ago

he always had a bold take

Often quite literally, in his PC Magazine columns!

rbanffy4• 11 minutes ago

His most hilarious predictions that were almost always wrong.

arm322• 56 minutes ago

May he write some excellent reviews of the technology in the afterlife. Thanks for all the great reads, John!

adamrezich2• 54 minutes ago

I grew up reading his column in PC Mag, then watched him on TechTV, and then listened to him on TWiT (where he was consistently the best part of the show, and being how I learned about Sarbanes-Oxley, because he'd bring it up like every episode for a good long while there), and later No Agenda. Before I'd realized it, John had be come the constant throughline as technology progressed throughout my life. I knew it was going to happen sooner or later, but it still really hurts to see him go.

dec0dedab0de• 53 minutes ago

I used to watch his podcast ~20 years ago, I still bring up how excited he was about finding secret bottles of wine in costco

lee_a• 52 minutes ago

Goodness. First came across his work watching Silicon Spin on ZDTV while I was in high school. Such a legend.

ranger_danger• 52 minutes ago

Wasn't he the one who famously said the iBook looked like a toilet seat?

bananaflag• 50 minutes ago

Here is an old column of his, "New Architecture Needed"

https://www.pcmag.com/archive/new-architecture-needed-32570

brandonmenc• 50 minutes ago

https://youtu.be/ur296s3wIv4

ITM, RIP

wnevets• 47 minutes ago

Rough year for the cranky geeks cast.

jacobgold• 42 minutes ago

He was our Andy Rooney. RIP.

saturn8601• 33 minutes ago

The Silicon Spin intro and Cranky Geeks theme song are burned into my head.

I was in elementary school watching ZDTV after school instead of doing my homework. One of those shows that's burned into my head, I don't even know why, is Silicon Spin.

Every now and then I have visions of my childhood, dreaming about this mysterious place called Silicon Valley that I never actually managed to get to. I also recall the fond moments watching literally everything on TechTV and ZDTV even if I didn't really fully understand everything. (I mean you're not going to understand everything in elementary school).

John C. Dvorak was probably speaking of content that my age range didn't fully comprehend at the time, but I still loved it.

I was so fortunate to meet Patrick Norton back at DEFCON in 2019, and it was a dream come true. I was able to express my appreciation not only of him but also about the whole ZDTV and TechTV cast including John C. Dvorak, many of whom had gone in different directions post TechTV. They were all such a comforting part of my childhood.

I was watching TechTV on 9/11 and remember how when Bush got on tv in the evening, they had a momentary fumble in switching over to him so they just overlaid CNN or some other news channel. Growing up Muslim in that area of the country, all the TechTV shows including Silicon Spin became even more pivotal in keeping some semblance of the happiness and ease of life I had before that day (which I never really got back).

Watching these old episodes are charming given the topics:

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYW3nkMl9GQ

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcJBXgmdX44

This has been a tough few years seeing people and companies that provided me a lot of joy and happiness start to pass away. I guess its just a part of realizing you are getting old and time moves on to the next generation.

I speak to a lot of Gen-Z since they are defining the culture now and so many of them just have little to no concept of the world before iPhone and as such don't remember that era of computing and the people involved in it.

I feel that makes all the people that were around even more special to me. We all got to be a part of that slice of history (them producing and me appreciating it and growing because of it) and it was unique to us in that time period. I am thankful that he was a part of my life journey in a small way.

cebert• 32 minutes ago

I’ll always remember him from Twit. He always made the show entertaining. I wonder if he and Leo were ever able to reconcile their differences.

james_pm• 28 minutes ago

Sad news. He was the OG tech grouch. Went way off the deep end with conspiracy crap and right wing nonsense over the last decade, but I always assumed some of that was opportunistic performance. RIP.

speak_plainly• 26 minutes ago

Rest in Peace, John.

It looks like Adam Curry and John’s wife Mimi will be hosting an episode of No Agenda tomorrow to share stories and anecdotes in remembrance.

https://mailchi.mp/nashownotes/rip-jcd-no-agenda-newsletter?...

uproarchat• 26 minutes ago

Rest in peace! I definitely have some strong memories watching JCD over the years. You will be missed.

scientifik• 24 minutes ago

Sad, I met him very briefly ~20 years ago when he was giving a talk at my Alma Mater (no, you've never heard of it)

Funny enough the audience was made up of his contemporaries but were completely computer-illiterate. He wanted to discuss heady topics but the Q&A was mostly people asking him to explain Linux (How can it be free? Who owns it?) I could tell he was a bit annoyed to have to get so basic with his audience but I think he kind of somewhat enjoyed sharing a new concept with them.

theflyingelvis• 24 minutes ago

I remember listening to him in the early 90’s on WFSU public radio, a show called Software Hard Talk. I enjoyed his snarky wit. Listened to him repeatedly call one of the BOB characters barf the dog much to Melinda (French) Gates’ annoyance.

His one page gossip column in the back of PC Mag was pretty great too.

This news makes me kinda sad.

Alien1Being• 23 minutes ago

He was related to the Dvorak keyboard inventor.

ksurace• 22 minutes ago

Incredible loss.

mutagen• 19 minutes ago

One of my highlights of 90s internet was forwarding some amusing computer anecdote or joke somewhere where it eventually got to John Dvorak with my email at the top of the forward chain and he reached out asking if he could credit me or get help finding the source. Unfortunately I didn't know the original source but I felt connected to the world in a new way.

mrandish• 17 minutes ago

I had many lovely dinners with John back in the 90s (he loved Chez Panisse). While his public persona could occasionally be curmudgeonly, in person he was a warm-hearted, passionate computing enthusiast.

qwertyuiop_• 17 minutes ago

RIP ITM

cube00• 16 minutes ago

Last NA recorded on Sunday and the credits rolling by Wednesday, massive respect for doing what he loved right up until the very end.

bredren• 15 minutes ago

I used to read him in my dad's PC Magazine subscription. I had some ~falling out over what my teenage self perceived as backwards take on mp3s and their proliferation. Perhaps one one of my earliest experiences with "kill your heroes" concept.

Glad for all of his contributions, I did enjoy reading his work.

jv22222• 14 minutes ago

Nooooo! Sigh. RIP JCD :(

I was very lucky to get a chance to interview him on our podcast back in 2010 [1]. He of course was very funny and insightful.

So kind of him to even come on our unknown show.

I used to love listening to him in early No Agenda [2] talking about his takes on all sorts of worldly things especially fine dining, spices, and all the famous people he'd had run-ins with.

[1] https://techzinglive.com/episode/6bc8086b/50-tz-interview-th...

[2] https://www.noagendashow.net/

mlindner• 14 minutes ago

Literally never even heard of him or this show he apparently ran so I'm confused why this is so upvoted.

epochbtc• 13 minutes ago

I remember reading an article by him in the 90s where he claimed e-commerce would never take off because all internet users expect everything to be free.

technics256• 7 minutes ago

hahaha that made me smile, well the era of napster and such it wasnt so far fetched i suppose

jarcoal• 11 minutes ago

Damn, this one hit hard. Grew up watching him on ZDTV/TechTV. RIP.

calmbonsai• 10 minutes ago

I don't know the man personally, but I was never impressed by his punditry even in the early PC MAG days and it got even worse when he started writing for MarketWatch.

He was always lots of loud platitudes or damnations with more noise than signal or thoughtful analysis. At some point, I just stopped listening and/or reading whenever his name came up.

corywatilo• 10 minutes ago

i have spent nearly half my life listening to the voice of John C. Dvorak on a nightly basis as i went to bed.

literally since i was in college – around 2008 – i started listening to the No Agenda Show. i'd play the podcast in one ear with the other on my pillow with a 30-minute sleep timer and play it over several nights until the next episode came out.

my outlook, my ideology, my perspective on life was partly formed by this man's words.

thanks for everything, John.

chongli• 7 minutes ago

I remember reading some of his columns growing up and I used to intensely dislike him for his dismissive takes on a lot of products and technologies I thought were important (most infamously, he dismissed the mouse)! Later on, I saw him as one of the regular guests on Leo Laporte's TWIT podcasts, and it totally changed my perception of him. The guy was genuinely hilarious and a real lovable curmudgeon, not a true naysayer.

I hadn't read or heard anything from him in recent years, though I had heard he had a falling out with Leo Laporte. He might have reconciled more recently but I am not sure. I know Leo will genuinely mourn him, as they were friends and colleagues for many years. I really miss him now too!

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