Two millionth electric car registered as market rebounds from tax changes

https://www.smmt.co.uk/two-millionth-electric-car-registered-as-market-rebounds-strongly-from-tax-changes/

by kieranmaine • 3 months ago

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bloak• 3 months ago

I am so confused by the categorisation of cars: BEV, HEV, PHEV and so on. I think the industry insiders who write some of these articles don't realise how hard it is for some of their readers to keep track.

LeoPanthera2• 3 months ago

Ignore the "EV" part.

B = Battery

H = Hybrid

PH = Plug-in hybrid (Same as a hybrid but you can charge up the hybrid battery at home)

rsynnott7• 3 months ago

Same as a hybrid but you can charge up the hybrid battery at home

And, in practice, the battery tends to be much, much bigger. Some PHEVs are basically mediocre-range electric cars which happen to have a petrol generator.

iso16317• 3 months ago

PH = Plug-in hybrid (Same as a hybrid but you can charge up the hybrid battery at home)

Surely that's the "same as a battery but you can use petrol on long journeys"

The only energy input for a "hybrid" is from petrol. It's slightly more efficient. A Toyota Yaris 1.5 hubrid gets about 65mpg rather than the 45mpg on a Skoda Kamiq

https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/realmpg/skoda/kamiq-2023

https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/realmpg/toyota/yaris-cross-2021

Johnny555• 3 months ago

PH = Plug-in hybrid (Same as a hybrid but you can charge up the hybrid battery at home)

You can, but in practice most people don't. And I can understand why -- it's inconvenient to have to plug in after every short trip, and the short electric range of most PHEV's means you do have to plug in after every short trip.

I plug in my EV around once a week, and it's more convenient than going to the gas station, but I'm not sure I'd want to have to plug it in every time I come home from even a short trip to the supermarket.

traderj0e10• 3 months ago

Seems like PHEV can mean it only goes 15-30mi on a charge. Realistically how many people are actually plugging those in?

xnx• 3 months ago

Don't forget EREV.

varispeed• 3 months ago

There is also MHEV

codedokode• 3 months ago

"Must heve"?

reactordev• 3 months ago

That’s like Pedal Assist I…

Mild Hybrid… pfffft.

oblio• 3 months ago

And EREV, the only hybrid that makes sense.

Hextinium• 3 months ago

"Mild" hybrid electric vehicle which is just using a oversized starter to break and then drive any accessories instead of the motor.

sheept• 3 months ago

To be fair, the article is written on a website for the auto industry, so it's reasonable for them to assume their target audience is familiar with these terms. I argue the onus is on OP for explaining these since they're sharing it to a different audience than it was written for.

pastudan• 3 months ago

Don’t forget PZEV (Partial Zero-Emissions Vehicle) which isn’t even an EV at all!

andruby• 3 months ago

What horrible acronym/concept are those.

It seems to be a US thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partial_zero-emissions_vehicle

In California, PZEVs have their own administrative category for low-emission vehicles. The category was made in a bargain between automakers and the California Air Resources Board (CARB), so that automobile makers could delay making mandated zero-emission vehicles (ZEVs)—battery electric and fuel-cell electric vehicles.

bluefirebrand2• 3 months ago

This is actually something I think is a pretty big failing in a lot of internet publishing

You could easily turn those terms in the article into hyperlinks to definitions.

You could even have the links go to definitions hosted on your own website to boost page reads and ad counts if you really wanted to

wffurr2• 3 months ago

Most user agents allow you to trivially search from selection. Double-click unfamiliar word, right click, select "search" or on macOS there's also "lookup" but that really only works on dictionary words.

martythemaniak2• 3 months ago

It's actually dead simple: there are battery electric EVs and internal combustion cars. That's it.

ICE cars come with a variety of add-ons and schemes to improve efficiency: fuel injectors, ECUs, braking energy capture systems (aka hybrid), small batteries for short trips that no one plugs in (aka plug in hybrids), etc.

neogodless• 3 months ago

You forgot EVs that come with an add-on that generates electricity by burning fuel!

flakeoil• 3 months ago

Quite frankly, today there is no need to look anywhere else than a pure electric car. No point to buy an ICE with battery + electric motor. It just adds complexity and makes it expensive to service. The newly released EVs today are so good and have fantastic range.

spauldo4• 3 months ago

Unless you travel a lot and live in hotels for months at a time, like I do. Granted, that's not horribly common but there are still legitimate reasons to want an ICE.

wxw• 3 months ago

The increase reflects a rebound from an unusually weak April last year, when buyers pulled purchases forward to March to beat incoming vehicle tax increases

bluGill8• 3 months ago

Yeah, all but diesel is up a lot. Electric only slightly more than gas as percentage

youngtaff6• 3 months ago

Diesel is down YoY https://www.smmt.co.uk/vehicle-data/car-registrations/

retrac98• 3 months ago

Fuel (diesel, specifically) in the UK is getting towards $10/gallon, so not surprising really!

iso16317• 3 months ago

Fuel in the UK is £1.58 a litre (£1.48 at one garage I passed today, £1.61 at another, some garages are certainly profiteering)

In 2022 is was £1.89 a litre and spent most of the year over £1.60 a litre

Adjusted for inflation that would be most of the year at £1.85, and a high of £2.18 a litre

https://www.racfoundation.org/data/uk-pump-prices-over-time

From 2011 to 2014 petrol was about £1.30 a litre. Adjusted for inflation terms that's £1.80-£2 a litre -- far less than current "highs".

The average UK car does 8000 miles and about 45mpg (uk gallons), or about 10 miles per litre. It thus costs 800 litres, or £1,260 a year.

Last year petrol was £1.35 a litre, and thus £184 a year less for the average car.

Fuel is insanely cheap in the UK in historic terms, just not as cheap as it was last year.

zdragnar2• 3 months ago

Eh, last year I was paying the equivalent of £0.38 per liter over here in the States ($2 a gallon gas, $3.30 or so for diesel).

"Insanely cheap" for the UK to feels really strange for those of us way over here who tend to forget how good we have it.

benj1113• 3 months ago

Yes well people like to complain, and people have a short memory. If it were really a massive problem you would see a lot more smaller cars, rather than Range Rovers and BMWs.

We will see exactly the same thing again in a few years when people are 'shocked' that prices are rising again. And then expect the government to step in, even though on the interim they've bought a massive car on PCP rather than take some personal responsibility and buy a car that they can afford when inevitably something goes wrong.

jayflux• 3 months ago

In 2022 is was £1.89 a litre and spent most of the year over £1.60 a litre

Why are you choosing the 2022 energy crises as your baseline? Not only your choice was arbitary but you managed to choose the year fuel was at its highest as a reaction to the war in Ukraine.

That price was not representative or typical, it was a spike. You can see it here.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/inflationandpriceindices/time...

theginger• 3 months ago

A lot of fast chargers are over $1 per kwh so unless you have access to home charging there isn't much room for savings.

iso16317• 3 months ago

Given that the majority of people in the uk have or can have access to home charging it's not a major problem

https://www.racfoundation.org/research/mobility/still-standi...

Wales – 75% of households have – or could have – off-street parking and EV charging England – 68% Scotland – 63%

In London, sure, most homes don't have off-street parking and ev charging, but then only half the households in London have a car

https://content.tfl.gov.uk/travel-in-london-2024-car-ownersh...

afavour• 3 months ago

But compared to the US home charging via a mains outlet is much more viable because it's 240v vs 110v. If you plug you car overnight you'll typically have enough charge to last you the next day.

giobox3• 3 months ago

At some stage I wonder if the UK will need to regulate the charger industry. The price gouging is wild in places. If we look at the energy content of petrol, a litre of gas contains about 9kwh of energy, or at average pump prices 1.58/9 = ~18 pence a kwh.

For sure, EVs are far more efficient at converting a kwh of energy into forward motion, but if we assume 35 mpg (9.25 miles/litre) for the gas car, we need about 970wh to travel 1 mile. A modern EV can manage a mile on ~260wh, almost a quarter of the gas requirement.

There are public charging networks in the UK averaging 92p/kwh - we know we need much less energy to move the more efficient EV, but even with this adjustment fuel cost per mile looks like:

petrol at UK average today: 17p/mi

Electric at very expensive public charger: ~24p/mi !!

At many chargers, there are no savings at all. For comparisons sake, that 92p kwh would be just 28.6p on the most expensive domestic electricity supply, and charging at home would be ~8p per mile on the worst possible tariffs.

I've probably done some bad math somewhere here, but I think the broad picture is correct.

jampa• 3 months ago

This oil crisis was a huge boon for EVs. In Brazil, despite the "hate" most people have against EVs, BYD went from breaking into the top 10 in March to taking the #1 spot in consumer sales for the first time ever.

slaw2• 3 months ago

BYD sold 14,911 units in April 2026
total vehicle sales in March 2026 was 269,483 units

So BYD market share is 5.5% in Brazil.

sandy_coyote• 3 months ago

But how many BYD units were sold relative to other units?

rootusrootus17• 3 months ago

Yeah, money talks. And every time you drop another $100 bill into the fuel tank, maybe you start to wonder what it is like to not pay that. Or to not drive to a gas station at all. Then you drive one and become one of the vast majority of people who suddenly have the epiphany "I will never go back, I like this way too much."

Freedom2• 3 months ago

Curious as to why American EVs never took off. The US is the most advanced country technologically and has the greatest soft power in history to make deals.

diego_moita• 3 months ago

Several reasons:

1. Unlike the rest of the world, EVs were sold in the US as muscle cars for rich people (e.g. Tesla). Everywhere else they're cheap cars for urban commuters (e.g. BYD).

2. Republicans sabotaged every attempt from the Democrats to get EVs going on.

3. Space and demography: EVs do very well in small countries (e.g. Europe) or big countries with a concentrated population (e.g.Brasil, Nigeria). They do poorly in countries with big distances and a spread out population.

jfengel• 3 months ago

Incumbent American automakers had a hard time switching over. EVs require significant expertise that they didn't have, and didn't particularly want to acquire.

Only Tesla designed cars to be electric from a clean sheet. And they were doing extremely well for a long time, and had an enormous lead. But they squandered it in a variety of ways.

The automakers and oil interests spent a lot of effort badmouthing electric cars. To hear Americans talk about it, they need to haul giant boats on their daily 400 mile commutes into uncharted forest. They didn't come up with "range anxiety"; it was deliberately spread.

For a while there was a partisan divide about it, with electric cars seen as a hippie-liberal choice, much as hybrids used to be. Then circa 2020 Elon Musk began to systematically alienate that market.

nutjob22• 3 months ago

The US is the most advanced country technologically

Because the US is the most backward advanced country socially/politically

rsynnott7• 3 months ago

The US is the most advanced country technologically

Certainly not in cars. The US car industry really more or less stopped even _trying_ to compete internationally in the 90s or so. The sole exception was Ford, but they went for an unusual approach where Ford Europe designed its own cars, using parts from Bosch etc. Ford Europe is now also all but dead in the consumer space, too. To a large extent the US car industry survives due to protectionism (notably this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax).

kieranmaine• 3 months ago

As a companion to this article these pages have good charts and data:

The road to electric - in charts and data - https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/electric-cars/choosing/road-to-e...

Electric car charging prices at public chargers - https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/electric-cars/charging/electric-...

Oras2• 3 months ago

Doesn’t increasing fuel price affect the electricity prices, which increases the charging cost?

rsynnott7• 3 months ago

Somewhat. But price rises for electricity aren't remotely on the same scale as price rises for diesel and petrol, and fuel/electricity was a smaller part of the TCO to _start_ with for electric cars.

tensor• 3 months ago

That depends entirely on where you are. In Ontario electricity is mostly hydro, nuclear, and renewables. But also, compared to burning gas directly, EVs are still more efficient and require less gas if you burn the gas to charge the EV.

iso16317• 3 months ago

Electric price in the uk on an off peak tariff overnight is about 7p/kWh, or about 2p/mile, so charging your car overnight with the average electric mileage (10,000 miles a year - higher than the average mileage) costs £200, about £1300 a year less than petrol.

bluefirebrand2• 3 months ago

Can you actually get different tariffs in the UK for residential?

In Canada most of that is pretty opaque. Electricity tariffs are not really something that most households would worry about. Businesses and Industrial usage do though

Oras2• 3 months ago

Thanks, I didn’t know about variable tariffs. But can this be residential or has to be on designated charging points?

bdcravens• 3 months ago

Even then, EVs are still cheaper to operate.

0cf8612b2e1e2• 3 months ago

Electricity generation is already diversified. Nuclear, coal, gas, solar, wood, witches, etc. The fuel mix can be tweaked as the economics change. ICE vehicle fleet is stuck with one energy source.

mrob3• 3 months ago

The UK is well suited to wind power, already has many wind turbines, and continues to install more. We have a good amount of solar panels too. Renewables provide the majority of electrical power when conditions are good and the share will only increase. Electric vehicles avoid the biggest weakness of renewables (unreliable base load), because they can be set to charge unattended when cheap electricity is available. Electricity suppliers offer variable rate tariffs specifically for electric vehicles.

Gibbon1• 3 months ago

You start running numbers the cost of solar and wind capacity to power an electric car is about 10% of the purchase price. And considering they have a battery that can store a weeks worth of energy and spend 95% of the time just sitting. Basically not a problem.

bluGill8• 3 months ago

Maybe, in the best case, your gas engine is maybe 45% fuel efficient, but realistically, you're probably getting closer to 20-25%. By contrast, a combined cycle power plant gets over 60%.

But that's assuming we're just running power plants off of petrol and fuels. Coal is much cheaper than petroleum in some cases. There's also a lot of people who get their power from nuclear, hydro, solar, and wind. In many cases, your electric prices are not at all affected by the increases in petrullium prices, because most of your electricity is coming from something else. In fact, I doubt there's any place in the world that all your electricity is coming from petroleum fuels. Even if that's the major input, there are almost undoubtedly other sources in the mix.

rsynnott7• 3 months ago

FWIW, I don't think there are any oil or coal power plants left in the UK. Certainly none in general operation.

philipallstar2• 3 months ago

By contrast, a combined cycle power plant gets over 60%.

Over 25% of this is then lost in transmission and distribution[0] (down to 45%). Then 10-25% of that lost in charging the car[1] (down to 40%). Finally, the car itself loses about 10-15% of that[2] (down to 35%).

[0] https://www.statista.com/statistics/322834/transmission-dist...

[1] https://go-e.com/en/magazine/ev-charging-losses

[2] https://evreporter.com/understanding-the-complete-efficiency...

KaiserPro10• 3 months ago

Depends on how you charge and where.

If you charge at home, and you don't have a car tariff, it'll be ~25-30p per kwhr

If you get a car charging tariff then you'll be paying ~9p a kwhr.

if you are brave then you can use an agile prices which depends on the weather you can be paid to charge (my record was -11p a unit) however in winter it can be a lot high, like 45p a unit.

Charging on the street can be around 50p a kwhr up to 98p a kwhr

izacus2• 3 months ago

UK has a massive new renewable installations which aren't affected by gas prices.

arjie• 3 months ago

A fifth of these last year were paid for by the government scheme that buys people cars - Motability. I wonder how many of these current ones are like that.

youngtaff6• 3 months ago

Motability is not 'a Government scheme that buys people cars'

People use the mobility part of their PIP payments to lease a car from Motability which is an independent company, they could use the mobility payment to pay for taxi instead.

MagicMoonlight• 3 months ago

And you can claim you have anxiety in order to get a brand new Audi. So it’s a government scheme which buys people cars.

It’s not independent, because it derives all of its income from the government and uses it to buy people brand new top of the range cars.

gib4445• 3 months ago

It's also misleading to treat it just like another independent private company too (not just because Motability consists of both a limited company and a charity (or two, IIRC)). The limited company reinvests revenues or transfers to its charity, not to private shareholders. Its origin was a charity.

But the only reason it exists is because of government funds and government policy.

The scheme would collapse if the government stopped allowing benefit money to be used for Motability leases. The banks lent them money under the reassurance of the government funding.

But yes, they lease the vehicles, they don't sell them.

EDIT: my comment may have some minor inaccuracies. I just found https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201719/cmselect/cmwo... - a very detailed description of the company, charities etc

Chaosvex5• 3 months ago

The government heavily subsidises it. It's not a government scheme but it walks and talks like one.

physicsguy6• 3 months ago

The biggest seller of EVs here is the salary sacrifice schemes that give a huge discount to high earners, especially those with kids.

Imagine you're on taxable income of £120k and have two chidlren in nursery. Currently you get no help with childcare costs from the government. From my own experience it's ~£6000 subsidy per child.

You can currently take out an EV salary sacrifice scheme for ~£600 per month (pre tax), and that brings your taxable income down by £7200. Put another £13k in pension. Boom, you're now getting £13k in pension p/a, and your car is effectively free, because you get £12k back in childcare subsidies.

alt2272• 3 months ago

But how long until those children are no longer in nursery and you are not subsedised for it? In ~2 years you will no longer have this help, you will be paying through the nose for the outstanding amount on your new car, and your take home will be significantly less each month.

physicsguy6• 3 months ago

Yeah, but you're still taxed at 72% between £100 and £125k if you have a student loan (as most people in that age bracket will be), so even in that case the hit to your take home isn't that much.

vkou3• 3 months ago

Yeah, but you'll have a new car.

Obviously if you don't need a new car, it's a really bad financial decision to buy one.

And even if you do, it might be a bad financial decision to buy one.

mytailorisrich4• 3 months ago

There is no need to go that high in salary (a lucky very small minority). The higher income tax band (40%) kicks in at 50k. Salary sacrifice schemes offer huge savings to many people.

pmg101• 3 months ago

Your car isn't 'effectively free', because you could sacrifice all £20k into the pension, paying no tax on it, and get the £12k in childcare subsidies because your income is <=£100k. The EV is costing you £7000 pa out of this.

It still might be desirable, but it isn't free.

bluGill8• 3 months ago

If your income is that high the pension is likely something you have anyway

physicsguy6• 3 months ago

If you're at that income level, your employer pension contribution is already likely high and you've likely been stacking it for a while anyway. At some point there is a diminishing return to how much you should put in your pension too; it's tax on exit after all. You only need 2-3 years of maxed out contributions in your late 20s/early 30s to set yourself up very well for the future.

trollbridge• 3 months ago

158p (about $8 a gallon) might be a pretty effective motivator, although electric prices need to stay reasonable for this to work.

youngtaff6• 3 months ago

This has a breakdown of the numbers by fuel type, brand etc.

https://www.smmt.co.uk/vehicle-data/car-registrations/

1970-01-01• 3 months ago

Why is the most unsaid part out of all of this fuel nonsense is that there are less cars dumping emissions into the air. The Iran war may be the best driver we've had for air quality. Bring more EVs, they're overdue by a decade.

baq3• 3 months ago

Donald Trump and Beniamin Netanyahu in a single year did more to curb emissions than all green activists since the inception of green activism. Nobel Peace Prize worthy if you ask me!

rootusrootus17• 3 months ago

Reverse psychology works very well on Trump but probably not Netanyahu.

Theodores• 3 months ago

I quit driving in the last century so buying petrol is not something I do. I have a bicycle for most journeys and the train for elsewhere.

Hence my perspective is different. To have everyone priced off the roads is going to make the cycling so much faster and pleasant.

I have considered getting an electric car in the past, but, one look at the traffic, and I decided against going that slow. So I thought about getting an electric bicycle, only to come to the same conclusion, a normal bicycle is all I want or need.

There is a similar story with food. No fertiliser? No problem! I only eat plants, with no processed food or dead animals. Soon the 'grow crops to fatten animals so fat people can eat them' idea will be too costly.

Of course, the world isn't going to stop eating animal corpses at every occasion or ween the adults off milk, so we will see what happens. Nonetheless, plants only is a good starting point.

I don't see electric cars as a solution except for boomers, particularly in the UK context, where the goal is to have 50% of urban journeys taken with active travel by 2030. Active travel means walking or cycling, and I am all for it.

If you are obese, car dependent and eating burgers, the situation is not good. However, if free from car dependency and able to cook from scratch with plants, then the situation is somewhat different, previously unpopular lifestyle choices make sense.

I also don't see what right I have to West Asian oil, it is not a birthright to have access to all the fuel one can afford. My view is that it is best left in the ground.

asdefghyk• 3 months ago

I expect , data such as ... would be illuminating here ...

Electric cars registered in countries with large land mass?

"..Electric car adoption , ranked by value of government incentives.."?

Eventually I just searched for

    "... graphs relating to EV adoption"

    " ..Relationship between country land mass and ev adoption rate.." ?

I have not posted links, not sure if its allowed.

rootusrootus17• 3 months ago

Since this is a discussion, I would suggest it would be most helpful if you just provided your opinions explicitly. And you are welcome to post links to back up assertions that involve facts, of course!

sensecall• 3 months ago

I’m not surprised with fuel at like £1.80/L and electricity as low as 3.5p/kwh

Makes EVs quite appealing.

https://carcosttool.com/ev-vs-ice-breakeven

rootusrootus17• 3 months ago

It also helps that they drive nice and are more convenient for most people.

barbazoo• 3 months ago

They're also quiet and no combustion means no exhaust fumes.

duxup• 3 months ago

That was always my thing about early EVs. Thumbs up to the early adopters but it took a while to take off as a lot of the early ones were just car but battery and they weren't very polished and had a lot of downsides.

Now the experience is much improved.

Cars aren't just a pure cost benefit analysis.

lenerdenator2• 3 months ago

Interesting how that doesn't seem to be a front where Europe wants to isolate itself from foreign influence; the models mentioned in the link seem to be Chinese in origin, not European.

mrob3• 3 months ago

Unlike with fuel, we're not burning the EVs, so even if China cuts off the supply we can keep using the ones we've already got. It would be inconvenient, but not an urgent problem like loss of access to fuel.

lenerdenator2• 3 months ago

It's less about fuel and more about industrial dependence.

rsync• 3 months ago

Imagine how much faster electric car adoption would be if incumbent auto makers weren’t using them as dumping grounds for experimental, half-baked, and unsafe design experiments?

We never wanted their “electric cars” … we wanted their cars, but electric.

bobthepanda2• 3 months ago

Yes and no. The F-150 Lightning did a lot more poorly than expected and it’s the best selling vehicle in the US.

It is interesting with the current oil shock what will happen to US automakers that have all but abandoned fuel efficient cars.

traderj0e10• 3 months ago

The F-150 Lightning is definitely not the best selling vehicle in the US. Maybe best-selling EV pickup truck.

WarmWash3• 3 months ago

The Achilles heel of EV adoption, and why I think Tesla has had such a leg up, is that your classic dealership really doesn't like selling EVs.

The salesman aren't knowledgeable about them, they don't have ownership experience with them, and EV's generate dramatically fewer lifetime "service" visits and parts sales.

This was common with the f150 lightning, where salesman were pretty much "If you want it I can do the paper work, but let me show you the regular F150's we have here if you like to drive places without headaches."

mattmanser• 3 months ago

We don't have dealerships in the UK like the US has.

Zigurd• 3 months ago

All of the German car makers, plus Hyundai, are very serious about making really good mainstream electric vehicles because they all believe that will be their core of their business sooner rather than later.

thrownawaysz• 3 months ago

All of the German car makers

The basic Seat Leon combi is currently 22.000€ on promotion. And that's a spacious family car. No EV car exist at that price point in that size with a range that most people would be comfortable with it.

Yes they will exist in the future but we are still a decade away from that at least.

mjhay• 3 months ago

Coulda fooled me. From what I’ve seen, it seemed like they were dragged to electric kicking and screaming after other options didn’t pan out - even with assistance from regulators. Germany has a severe problem with rational consideration of energy issues.

traderj0e10• 3 months ago

I remember when there were no mainstream EVs and everyone kept publicizing some EV concept that looks like it'd be a ride at Disney Epcot.

yread• 3 months ago

I don't know. Kia Niro is now 10 years old and looks completely normal and you could buy it as HEV, PHEV or EV

mpyne• 3 months ago

Yeah, the first EV I bought was an otherwise boring Hyundai Kona. Great car and great EV but you could easily mistake it for the gas version if you weren't paying attention.

And surprisingly to me it is even pretty damn efficient despite being originally designed as a gasoline-powered vehicle.

tzs4• 3 months ago

There are some where the EV is largely the same as the non-EV other than the necessary differences because it is in an EV such as instruments and menus.

For example Hyundai Kona EV differs inside from the Kona ICE and hybrid models by having the shifter on the column instead of on the center console and the floor is flatter from not needing to accommodate the transmission tunnel.

A mix of Googling and LLMing suggests that BMW, Genesis, Mini Cooper, Volvo, and VW also have some EVs that are very similar to their non-EV cars.

nutjob22• 3 months ago

What's galling is Tesla's influence. Why do electric cars need to have screens besides (or instead of) the dashboard? WHY? Or any other of Tesla's misfeatures.

I own a Kia Rio hachback. It was incredibly cheap for the features and has been incredibly reliable. I just want an electric version of that with as much range as possible and a heat pump for cabin climate control and battery management.

But nope, can't have that, instead we have a market full of cars 4+ times the cost with a bunch of stupid, useless, asinine bells and whistles.

I assume they'll eventually sell that, in about 10 years time, which makes me sad.

benhurmarcel• 3 months ago

Did you stop looking at cars after 2015 ? Most electric cars look very normal.

rsynnott7• 3 months ago

VW tried that, particularly with the eGolf (which was pretty much indistinguishable from a normal Golf); it didn't really work. A lot of people thought VW didn't even _make_ electric cars until the weirder-looking id3 and 4 came out years later.

ripvanwinkle• 3 months ago

TSLA not in the top 10- very interesting

rconti• 3 months ago

Holy crap the scrolling behavior on this site is the worst I've seen. It hijacks my browser (Chrome)+OS X trackpad scrolling speed and inertia in a horrible way.

Two millionth electric car registered as market rebounds from tax changes

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