Industrial design files for Keychron keyboards and mice

https://github.com/Keychron/Keychron-Keyboards-Hardware-Design

by stingraycharles • 3 months ago

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stingraycharles2• 3 months ago

Keychron just open-sourced their design files, which I didn’t expect.

I’m a happy user of their keyboards.

mananaysiempre• 3 months ago

Not open source or open hardware, which they are pretty clear about.

This project is source-available. Personal and educational use is allowed, and commercial use is allowed for compatible accessories. You may not copy and sell Keychron keyboards or mice [...].

observationist• 3 months ago

It's awesome if you mod your own gear, and 3d printing / one off part services are ubiquitous, so if you see something you like online, it's cheap and easy to do little upgrades.

More companies should do what they do - the less ethical players are already cloning knockoffs anyways, stuff like this builds brand loyalty and probably makes it more likely that people stick with Keychron over going for the knockoffs.

ZeWaka2• 3 months ago

The Keychron K4/related (K4 HE here) compact 96% layout is definitely my favorite keyboard layout. Just a solid brick of keys.

remarkEon• 3 months ago

Second this. I was skeptical because I thought I was attached to the "heft" of a full layout, but the 96% is the best of both worlds.

stingraycharles2• 3 months ago

Why do you like rhe 96% layout? I prefer the full space, recently upgraded to a Q6 Ultra, I’m really happy I can get a wireless version of most of their models these days.

gwbas1c• 3 months ago

Wider keyboards (with the space for arrow keys and number keys to the right) put extra strain on your right shoulder when you use the mouse in your right hand.

I've been using a narrow keyboard and ergonomic mouse for 2 weeks, and my shoulder pain is starting to go away.

I put a number pad on the left and it's much easier to key in numbers with my left hand instead of using my mouse with my left hand.

ZeWaka2• 3 months ago

It's just keys, nothing else. I don't use any tactile or visual guides when I type and go off pure muscle memory, so all the spacing in traditional layouts is useless for me.

rstupek• 3 months ago

The HE keyboards are really great. I have been using the K10 HE for a year and it's the best keyboard I've used.

banannaise• 3 months ago

I've used a K4 for 6 years now and love it. The only thing is that I had to swap out the arrow keys for textured ones, which allows me to reach for them blindly and keeps me from losing my location when using them.

It's insanely compact for a 96% board.

OsrsNeedsf2P• 3 months ago

Hah, I just bought the Q6. Seeing they released their design spec makes me much happier with the purchase!

m4632• 3 months ago

I bought one too - most heavy and heavy duty keyboard I have ever owned.

I wanted to use it but it has one fatal flaw - the backlighting is unusable.

The keys it comes with are decent, but opaque, so the backlight doesn't actually illuminate the keys. And if you get shine-through keycaps, the LEDs are mounted below the center of the key instead of above, and you don't get good illumination.

sigh.

I used to use topre realforce rgb, then tried keychron, now use steelseries apex pro exclusively.

if they could fix it, giving me illuminated shine-through keys, I would go back to stay.

skrtskrt2• 3 months ago

A Keychron has always been a great introduction for friends that want a good home desk setup without too much fuss.

I have stuck with the System76 Launch keyboard but I basically always consider Keychron first when looking.

lamasery• 3 months ago

I'd consider another Keychron (my first mechanical since a couple of AT and PS/2 Model M and variant devices I had years and years ago) and I like some stuff about it and definitely like the price, but would look for a model with a few differences next time and probably skip Keychron if I couldn't get all of these fixed in one of their boards:

1 - Longer battery life (I have a bluetooth + plug-in model). The battery life is crazy-low, even when not in use and the lights are turned off. I keep it plugged in all the time, as a result. I don't really get why it can't last, idle, about as long as a game controller does (many weeks! And those don't have much space for batteries).

2 - No light pattern button. That thing exists only to accidentally hit and switch it away from "gently and evenly lit" which is one of the very-few non-insane patterns available. Brush it by accident, there goes a minute or so of your time getting it back to something that's not trying to look like a disco ball. And it's right on the corner, so you will hit it by accident when moving the keyboard around or reaching for something just past it. Easily my least-favorite thing about the board, despite how bad the next item is.

3 - Mine has a kind of tray-design around the edge, resulting in about a 1/8" lip, that looks very cheap to assemble (so that's nice, lower price) but means it collects EVERYTHING out of the air and is a pain in the ass to clean. It also makes it look kinda like someone's 3D printed hobby project. Like it's an ugly keyboard, both because of the design and because it's visibly collecting dust and hair just a few days after its last keys-removed full cleaning.

vladvasiliu• 3 months ago

I have a K2, and you can lock the lights with some key combination I don't remember and am too lazy to look up.

kukakike• 3 months ago

You can remap/disable all light shortcuts using web app https://launcher.keychron.com/#/keymap

static_motion• 3 months ago

I disabled the lighting on my Keychron Q1 Max due to the battery drain. With it on (on the lowest glow possible), it would barely last a week. With it off? I go literal months without charging it back up, and it's used wirelessly 100% of the time, both via Bluetooth and 2.4 GHz.

mcv• 3 months ago

I recently bought a Keychron, but I'm not wildly enthusiastic yet. It's very thick; much thicker than the 2002 Dell keyboard it's replacing. And the key press feels very spongy. I suspect I might prefer clacky keyboards after all.

skrtskrt2• 3 months ago

Yeah I would certainly only recommend a hotswap model, even if someone isn't into keyswitches that much, they still probably have a preferred feel that they want to go for.

chaosharmonic2• 3 months ago

On the source-available piece:

I'm not saying I'm for those over open source licenses in general, but Prusa brought up some fair questions when discussing the OCL. Essentially: define "personal use." Have I violated a non-commercial license if I print this keyboard and then use it to build someone a website? Does CC-NC mean a Prusacaster -- or any guitar knob with such a license for that matter -- is strictly barred from being taken on tour? Or used to record albums that are then sold? (And I say "guitar" knob, but I'm choosing an example a little consciously that could exist in any variety of controls, instrument and otherwise.)

Where are the lines of that when it's physical things? How far downstream does that go if it isn't CC-NC-SA in particular?

I'm not really sure that Creative Commons had the idea of physical production in mind, given that it dates back to a time when we were more broadly talking about digital piracy, and I honestly haven't kept up with its evolution much in more recent years. But maybe it just doesn't make the same sense for designs of physical things, for comparable reasons to why it wouldn't make sense for code -- and, conversely, open source projects that opt to use CC licenses for assets.

(None of this would stop me from attempting to build/mod one for fun, mind you. It just raises what a more averse person might call risks, and what I will at least call curiosities.)

Analemma_• 3 months ago

Hasn’t Creative Commons disavowed or at least really downplayed the NC license for exactly these reasons? There are so many ambiguities and headaches involved that the only advice I’ve ever seen is not to use it.

BeefySwain• 3 months ago

I'd love to see more info on this

hananova2• 3 months ago

Rule of thumb:

- If it’s a company doing an NC license, probably best to be careful because they can make your life hell with lawyers.

- If it’s a random joe doing an NC license, feel free to ignore it because they don’t have the money to defend it anyway. Especially so if it’s CC-BY-NC-ND, people that pick that one are especially likely to be in the all-bark-no-bite category.

At least that’s how one of the companies I worked for treated CC licenses… I don’t work there anymore.

dec0dedab0de5• 3 months ago

Not a lawyer, but as I understand it the license is a matter of copyright, and the copyright only applies to the design files. So as long as you're making that keyboard for yourself then you should be good to do anything you want with the keyboard, because it is no longer using the license at that point.

Now, what is interesting is if someone were to blatantly violate the license and start manufacturing commercial keyboards. I believe their only recourse would be to revoke their license of the design files, and then it would be copyright infringement. The thing is, I don't know how copyright law would handle any damages.

I don't know if making a physical product could be a violation of copyright, regardless of if you had a license to use the design in the first place. I could definitely imagine a company trying to enforce this, and a judge throwing it out because it should have been handled with patents.

Again, not a lawyer, just speculating on a forum.

Majromax• 3 months ago

Not a lawyer, but as I understand it the license is a matter of copyright, and the copyright only applies to the design files. So as long as you're making that keyboard for yourself then you should be good to do anything you want with the keyboard, because it is no longer using the license at that point.

What if I take the design, print it, include the thing in a staged photo, and sell prints of the photo?

What if I skip the printing and use the design files as a basis for a rendered photo or animation?

What if I print the design, then use a 3D scanner to recreate a file from the physical artifact?

bityard• 3 months ago

Yeesh. People. C'mon. It's okay to use some common sense here.

Keychron is a keyboard/mouse company. It is VERY reasonable to interpret "non-commercial use" as meaning "don't sell mice/keyboards built or derived from these designs."

NOT "we are going to sue you if a 3D-printed copy of our mouse ends up in the background shot of your movie," or similar contrived madness.

ddtaylor2• 3 months ago

I don't think they are interested in those nuances. I think they just want to get free PR for a widget they are making.

userbinator• 3 months ago

Where are the lines of that when it's physical things?

The automotive aftermarket has largely settled that; even without the original design files, it's perfectly legal to make compatible parts, patents and the like notwithstanding. You can build an entire "small block Chevy" engine wholly from parts that GM did not make, and it will fit perfectly in a car that originally had the "genuine" one.

IANAL but as long as you don't violate any patents they have (if any) nor use their trademark, feel free to make and sell keyboards that look like theirs (not that a keyboard of their design is particularly distinctive anyway.)

fweimer• 3 months ago

I think CC originally did have producing physical items in mind. For example, one use case for the NC licenses for photos was that you can pay someone to make a print and frame it for you. This went sideways when Flickr offered to streamline the process because for many creators, NC means that no one (else) should be able make a profit using the work.

dmarinus• 3 months ago

Wooting has done this already for many years: https://github.com/WootingKb/wooting-design

JMiao• 3 months ago

great, one more

keyle2• 3 months ago

did WASD do it when they folded?

wpm• 3 months ago

I wish, I will need new feet for my CODE soon. Plus my cases latching tabs are about half gone.

nickvec• 3 months ago

Love my Keychron Q1 Max. Awesome to see them open source their design files.

burnt-resistor2• 3 months ago

The only problems I have with the Q6 Max are:

- It's way, way too heavy. Heavier than my Northgate Omnikey Ultra. Like it's more adept as an improvised weapon as much as any keyboard ever was.

- Didn't come with all black enter and escape caps (they were red orange), requiring purchasing an expensive complete replacement set.

Minor areas for improvement:

~ Battery life could be better.

~ Charging takes a long time and I'm unsure if there's a charge finished indicator.

~ Would be nice to have an offline flash update & macro programmer to not depend on cloud-based software that will eventually evaporate like everything else.

I do like:

+ Replaceability of switches as I've tried a bunch, settling on Kailh Box White V2.

+ RGB effects can be turned off completely or show a solid color at low brightness.

+ Native USB proprietary wireless dongle, BT with 3 profiles, or wired.

+ Wired or wireless connection while charging.

+ PC vs. Mac layout as a physical switch.

delecti3• 3 months ago

Can't speak much to most of your complaints (I like my keyboard heavy, planned to change all the keycaps and switches, and didn't get a wireless keyboard), but you can download an offline version of Via to configure it. https://github.com/the-via/releases/releases

burnt-resistor2• 3 months ago

They're my complaints, not yours. You cannot validate or invalidate them.

But not launcher.

lofaszvanitt• 3 months ago

I have an IBM Model M, but after prolonged sessions of coding, my finger joints are aching. Are these Keychron keyboard have better switches or what are the experience using these mechanical ones?

ch_123• 3 months ago

Quite likely - the buckling spring switches in Model M are quite stiff as far as keyboards go. Brown switches are a good choice if you want a light switch with some amount of tactility.

dddw• 3 months ago

Some would call buckling spring style (which inm keyboard use) surperiour to all the mx style switches. It is definitly on the more tactile end, so having aches doesnt surpise me. The variety in MX switches is bonkers. A well known switch collector called Theramingoat has over 4000 different ones. So if you get a hotswap board (keychron is not a bad place to start, but you can find better value-board for the same money nowadays), you can definitely find a switch of your liking. Check out milktooth, you can get a sample pack of different switches to try. And return the ones you dont like.

delecti3• 3 months ago

There is (deliberately) not much consistency or uniformity on the switches in mechanical because keyboard nerds are such a picky bunch. I got the Keychron Q11 specifically because the switches could be changed out. I replaced the Brown switches it came with with some "Zilent V2" switches with a much higher activation force.

It can be a dangerous rabbit hole if you let it, but if you're just looking for an approximation of the Model M but that requires less force, then something with "Brown" switches might be up your alley. This one in particular has a similar aesthetic, comes with Brown switches as an option, and at a pretty good price.

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-c2-pro-8k-qmk-via...

nhecker• 3 months ago

I can give a third vote to the rough comparison between a keyboard with brown switches, and a Model M. I've got both, and like both.

TimBurman• 3 months ago

I've had three keyboards with red switches, two from Ducky that were Cherry switches and one from Lenovo that may be another company's switches, but feel the same. None failed on their own but I spilled drinks on the first two and they were never the same. Maybe check out some of the lighter switches, even reds are way lighter than my old 1990s model M. https://www.cherry.de/en-gb/products/switches

projektfu• 3 months ago

A model M requires so much force a cockatiel can walk on it and not press a key. Most tactile keyboards use a little less force.

I find linear switches make my hands hurt because they don't have a clear activation point and I end up pressing too hard. Cherry MX Brown switches and equivalent are a sweet spot for me. I also liked the lost-to-history white ALPS switches on the Apple Extended Keyboard II

arikrahman2• 3 months ago

I love the design for the ergonomic mouse. Are there any plans for split keyboard or something Corne style?

herrherrmann• 3 months ago

They have at least the Q11 as a split keyboard model. Or did you mean something else?

arikrahman2• 3 months ago

I meant something that's orthogonal. I can't go back to standard staggered keyboards. The downgrade would mean RSI for me.

cosmic_cheese2• 3 months ago

I have their Q60, which is a retro-themed HHKB layout 60% board. Paired with a set of beige-Mac-themed MT3 Extended 2048 keycaps, out of my collection it's one of my favorites and sees some of the most use. It goes head to head with pricier one-off hobbyist boards.

I wonder how suitable these CAD files would be for either CNCing or resin-printing a translucent fruit-colored plastic case for a different flavor of retro. That'd be really cool.

pc863• 3 months ago

MT3 really is a fantastic profile.

cosmic_cheese2• 3 months ago

Both variants are great but I'm particularly fond of the PBT version. The slightly rough/matte texture that doesn't wear away easily and exaggerated dome shapes are sublime to use.

exmadscientist• 3 months ago

"Production-grade hardware design files... Study real CAD... Learn from how real products are built... STEP"

I'm sorry, I hate to be that guy, but while STEP files are often used as the final export to the contract manufacturer to cut the molds, or for some level of fit checking, they're not used for anything else. The real engineering that you can actually learn from is in the SolidWorks (or equivalent) part files, and you'll note that they're not offering those.

mjmas2• 3 months ago

They use Creo it seems:

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HugoDias• 3 months ago

I still use my K2, which I bought in 2019 from Kickstarter, non-stop. What a piece of hardware! I have no plans to switch and will use it until it dissolves, which doesn’t seem to be happening in the next decade or so

AlBugdy• 3 months ago

What's so special about these designs that makes it copyrightable? The keyboards in the image look very much like any other keyboard I've seen.

kergonath• 3 months ago

Novelty is irrelevant to copyright. You are probably thinking of patents or trade marks.

yc-kraln• 3 months ago

Great that these are source-available, but I wish they had a human copy edit the README, it's unbearable.

moo-jason• 3 months ago

Very cool. I have the V7. I'm a fan. Just did this golang project: https://github.com/mbarlow/saengsation Can control the LEDs from commandline. Includes claude skill and hooks. I'm using it to now see claude state. Rainbow animation while claude is working, glows amber when need to switch back to give permission to command, etc. Configurable. Works well.

sinsterizme• 3 months ago

I have the k10 he special edition! I am so happy with my purchase, I love the magnetic switches (they feel much nicer to me than mechanical), it's nice to look at, the build quality is great, and the software is really solid. Very impressed overall :)

glaslong• 3 months ago

Their Q10 Max has hit an amazing sweet spot for me. Being able to keep DIYing on that base is like Xmas, this is awesome.

gregsadetsky6• 3 months ago

Sort of tangent - but I've always thought there would be physical stores in big cities (like NYC, where I am) where I could try a number of different keyboards and keys since it's such a tactile experience.

But there seems to be no stores like this? So... is everyone ordering keys and keyboards, returning them, trying others, etc.? I know there are key switch samplers... is that it?

Thanks

hananova2• 3 months ago

A combination of key samplers and going with the first acceptable switch rather than trying all of them and going with the best.

zerebos• 3 months ago

If you live in NYC take a trip to your nearest Microcenter, they often have tons of keyboards out that you can play with and get a feel for

gregsadetsky6• 3 months ago

for sure, that's probably the best option here in NYC/Brooklyn

but it definitely feels limited when compared with all of the options available online (that probably applies to most things)

there's a specialized store in Brooklyn for modular synths [0] - obviously they don't stock every module but still... I'd assume that a keyboard store would be... popular? maybe? haha

(((((((((should I start a keyboard store ahaha - I swear this was not market research)))))))

[0] https://maps.app.goo.gl/rvsPscrphv1iKU8D8

cocoto• 3 months ago

Pc hardware stores often have some keyboards available to try (mostly cheap cherry mx stuff).

gosub100• 3 months ago

I've thought about this. why not a boutique Keyboard Store in Grand Central? Every make, model, and design of keyboard and accessory.

GZGavinZhao• 3 months ago

I want one for HiFi headphones / IEMs! I feel really bad to order two or three models that I want and have to return all but one, because I can't really tell the difference just by looking at the specs sheet. My ears should be the ultimate judgement.

idle_zealot• 3 months ago

So... is everyone ordering keys and keyboards, returning them, trying others, etc.? I know there are key switch samplers... is that it?

It's pretty wild the degree to which our lives and economy depend on cheap shipping/trucking. Why have a store when a truck can deliver a 100g trinket for someone three States over.

anonymous9082132• 3 months ago

I mean, you still need a truck to get the item to the store...

Delivery is actually more resource-efficient if the store isn't within walking distance of its customers. If instead of making 10 people get in their car and make a round trip to the store/warehouse, you put 10 packages in one vehicle and deliver to everyone in the same neighborhood with one trip, you're looking at an order of 90% less wasted emissions.

pluskid2• 3 months ago

Yeah, this is a US issue. If you go to Tokyo or Taipei, you will find physical stores in cities with many different kind of mechanical keyboards.

intrasight• 3 months ago

I would love to visit a Tokyo store with mechanical keyboards!

My solution is to buy a mech keyboard from some well respected vendor and try it out. I return the vast majority.

LAC-Tech• 3 months ago

Where in Taipei? I have been there a few times, so you can be specific.

harrall2• 3 months ago

Not a US issue. A store near me has mechanical keyboards.

Definitely a some-areas-issue.

Roark66• 3 months ago

Definitely not a US only issue

Central EU here. We order a bunch of switches. A "starter pack" of sorts. We try them and then choose the favourite.

Physical shops rarely stock keyboards with removable switches.

davkan2• 3 months ago

Yup was touring some historical stuff in Tokyo and thought I’d look for an HHKB, checked their site and sure enough there was retailer a 10 minute walk away. Tiny shop in a more residential area a block or two off the main street.

bArray• 3 months ago

I almost purchased a mechanical keyboard (with the wrong layout) from a Bic Camera [1] just because they offered in-store access to the keyboards.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bic_Camera

prmoustache• 3 months ago

It is such a niche market that even in a big city it doesn't make much sense to have physical shop dedicated to it. Most people into it are into custom dwsign and color, it would be impossible to stock everything and people would just go to the shop trying the keys and layout then order cheaper online to have the exact combo they want.

dd8601fn• 3 months ago

I don't even need to touch every configuration of all the things. I just want a place I can press a row of each switch type from all the vendors.

LeoPanthera• 3 months ago

If you live in the bay area, Microcenter Santa Clara has lots to try.

klooney• 3 months ago

Central Computer too

walrus01• 3 months ago

If there isn't a keyboard selection at somewhere like B&H's location on Manhattan's west side, it's unlikely for there to be retail display space for similar anywhere else. Setting aside even 50 square feet of standing height display tables with sample keyboards, as a product, is not cheap in terms of retail display space that could be better used for other high-volume, higher profit margin products.

In an ideal world we could have something along the lines of a ca. 2002 era Fry's Electronics in size and concept of broad selection of products. But you'd need something the size of the largest Costco to have a really full array of every type of electronic gadget/product that's available online, and as we know, Fry's went famously bankrupt...

m4632• 3 months ago

They have lots of keychron keyboards to try, even weird custom ones, at Central Computers in silicon valley.

abhinavsharma• 3 months ago

Best Buy has keychron

cantSpellSober• 3 months ago

Sounds like you need to attend the next NYC Mechanical Keyboard Meetup

gregsadetsky6• 3 months ago

wow! I'm sad I missed it last month! https://nyckeyboardmeetup.com/events/20260314/

any idea when the next one will be?

wfleming• 3 months ago

Stores, no, but there are meetups of keyboard nerds where people bring a bunch of them. There’s one in NYC run by a former coworker of mine: https://nyckeyboardmeetup.com/. Schedule is somewhat sporadic, and unfortunately you just missed the most recent one, but you might enjoy checking out their next event.

patsplat• 3 months ago

There’s the NYC Mechanical Keyboard Meetup if you would like to see and try different builds. Most people will let you try their builds.

https://nyckeyboardmeetup.com/

sho_hn• 3 months ago

Berlin has a nice one: https://geekboards.de/

Edit: Turns out, sadly, had one: https://geekboards.de/blogs/news/were-closing-our-berlin-sho...

gregsadetsky6• 3 months ago

sad to hear...! I also found https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/1h6gtw... with more Q&A from the owner

_thisdot• 3 months ago

There is a Keychron store in Bangalore that lets you do this. They even have a computer with a USB C wire sticking out so you can take any keyboard to it and type on Monkeytype. Since the keyboard community is a small one, it’s never really crowded. However, in my experience it takes at least a week of continued use to be able to judge whether a switch is good for you.

davkan2• 3 months ago

It’s a tiny market in the US. Most people just buy a razer or corsair from Best Buy if they do it in person.

Modified3019• 3 months ago

TL:DR Ultimately I settled on incredibly smooth, linear pre-lubed hall effect/TMR switches, and that’s what I strongly recommend to others.

I played around with different mechanical switches for a bit, getting a few switch testers and hemming and hawing about which would be my chosen one. Honestly most all of it will be better than your typical $20 rubber dome dell e-waste. I got a Leopold keyboard with tactile mx clears as my first “real” keyboard and it was definitely an improvement and enjoyed it for a few years.

However after my final xbox gamepad once again started getting stick drift, I moved one with Hall effect sticks (gamesir). It was so much better that it resulted in me wanting to try a hall effect keyboard with more customizability. Took a chance with a Keydous NJ98-CP V3 HE (pale green) because it was well reviewed and priced well enough to take a risk on. I love it so much I got my sister one.

It turns out what I truly loved about old IBM beamspring switches wasn’t so much the click, but the smoothness. Typical mechanical linear switches with electrical contacts feel scratchy to me which I find repellent. Oddly enough, having a tactile bump to overcome somehow hides that. But a lubed Hall effect switch is as low friction as you can get and I love them. It’s literally fun to type on, and works great for gaming. As a bonus, it’s pretty quiet too, making it less obnoxious for others to be around.

You’ll need to adjust the activation point to prevent accidental activation when resting your hands, but that’s basically it as far as doing things differently.

As a side note, my mouse is a keychron M5, a “vertical” mouse, which works quite well and supports the higher polling rates I’m looking for. Also highly recommended if you need to give your tendons a break. Personally I think Razer has slightly better algorithms for smoothing and accurately translating my movement intentions, but this is only something I notice when “playing” Excel, and it’s not enough that ergonomics don’t easily win out.

bombcar• 3 months ago

There are tens (hundreds?) of keyboards but only a handful of different switch types and manufacturers-with some study and preparation you can narrow down the switch feel pretty quickly.

Then it’s a matter of choosing the style, so yes, many simply collect keyboards of their favorite switch type - and often don’t even return the ones they don’t use.

The elites don’t want you to know this but the keyboards are not free you can take them home I have 458 keyboards.

One of the fun type mix the various key switches to have different feel and different locations (easier/lighter switches at the edges for example).

wrigby• 3 months ago

Probably Microcenter in Brooklyn is your best bet, but still limited selection. It really feels like there should be a hole-in-the-wall gaming PC shop in LES - maybe we should just open one?

gregsadetsky6• 3 months ago

I’m extremely interested. Email in profile - reach out and let’s grab coffee?

TranquilMarmot• 3 months ago

In Seattle we have a sizeable mechanical keyboard community that does a monthly meetup. It's a great way to try out different switches/keycaps/layouts/etc. It's worth seeing if there's anything similar near you.

alfiedotwtf• 3 months ago

Keychron :heart:

I’ve got 2 ortholinears (home and work), and a compact for another machine.

Is any or them dies, instabuying another Keychron!

PS: IF you’re listening, PLEASE release a split wireless ortholinear

thenthenthen• 3 months ago

Keychron has ortholinears now? I guess so, cool: https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-q15-max-qmk-wirel...

ddtaylor2• 3 months ago

Source available, meaning we just want to use open source as a marketing gimmick and don't do anything too interesting with it that could affect our bottom line.

These projects get shared on HN sometimes and it doesn't fit with the hacker ethos overall. Everyone wants to yell the cool part aloud, but mutter the asterisks and license language that takes power away from a would be tinkerer underneath their breath.

It could actually be marketed in a decent way, like saying if our company ever goes under you'll have these designs and the license to do anything you want with them. Even a conditional license like that would have more value.

As it stands this is a neat thing that some people can use and disregard the license that wants to hamstring you into doing free research and development for a company that produces a product that they tell you not to make.

dynendal• 3 months ago

I never understood why the K6 had aluminum on the sides, but not the back. For the last few years, I had two K6's with different switches I swapped between. When one keyboard's battery went low, I would swap and keep working while charging.

Then, on my newer K6 the battery turned into what reddit affectionately calls a "spicy pillow." The keys warped convex around the bulged battery and equivalently bulged out the back plastic. That's why you can't put metal back there. I quickly brought it to my nearest battery recycling center. I could've just removed the battery, but I also enjoy having my face in one piece

ChrisMarshallNY2• 3 months ago

Cool stuff.

I have a Keychron that I love. I have a jar full of replacement switches, so I suspect that I won’t need to get a new keyboard, anytime soon.

I have an Apple Touch ID keyboard, that I use only for Touch ID. I don’t like it, otherwise. I’ve always wondered why Apple doesn’t ship (or license) a simple standalone Touch ID pad. They could probably get a decent premium for it.

That said, like a lot of open-source libraries, I appreciate the gesture, but will likely always use the built product. It’s just that hardware has a habit of “aging out,” so this is a way to ensure that a legacy product can remain viable, even after discontinuation.

benfortuna• 3 months ago

You can make your own touch id pad if so inclined.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzB6m2VTxAg

ChrisMarshallNY2• 3 months ago

Yeah, that’s cool, but too much like work for me. The keyboard thing is a bit awkward, but manageable. I keep it in my keyboard tray (which I never use for a keyboard, otherwise).

johanos3• 3 months ago

I had to convince myself to spend the money on a keychron keyboard, but at this point I really like it. I've spilled 3 bottles of water on it as well as 1 protein shake on it and I've been able to fix it each time by just disassembling it and letting it dry out. It's been working perfectly after each time. So far it's been worth the money. That and taking it apart was actually really easy and straightforward.

shlubbert• 3 months ago

I wonder if investing in a cup holder would've been a better option

johanos3• 3 months ago

yeah, it has happened whenever I use the non cap+straw water bottle.

coldtea• 3 months ago

Maybe try some water/juice drinking bottles with a cap and/or a large straw?

johanos3• 3 months ago

I do mostly, just the times it's happened it was the one without the straw.

doubleg72• 3 months ago

Perhaps a sippy cup?

9fwfj9r• 3 months ago

Keychron's firmwares are not fully opensourced. This makes me hesitant to buy one.

Industrial design files for Keychron keyboards and mice

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