Ask HN: How did you learn to code?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46452146

by chistev • 7 months ago

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ipnon• 7 months ago

I don't feel like I ever learned how to code. The first program I wrote was in Flash, it moved a little triangle spaceship around a small frame and shot lasers. I had no idea what was going on. Later in college I wrote a lot of Python, like Django and simple algorithms. Still had no idea what was going on. After college I wrote lots of JavaScript targeting Web APIs and DOMs and strange frameworks. Still confused. We were serving on the order of 100,000,000 people a day, kind of just made it up as I went along. Now I write Elixir, and still only have a fuzzy idea of what I'm doing, but eventually it starts to work with the features and reliability I want.

I suppose all of this is to say I still feel like I'm learning! If I ever feel like I have finished the learning process it will probably be on my death bed!

thatoneengineer• 7 months ago

TI-83, a few afterthought programs in my precalc textbook, and a bunch of bored afternoons in class. This would be back in '06 or so.

hivacruz• 7 months ago

I “learned” to code in Visual Basic 6 to create programs mainly for AOL chat rooms (games, etc.) when I was a kid. I was more of a script kiddie than anything else, but I got hooked pretty quickly. Good times!

thomasfromcdnjs• 7 months ago

neopets was definitely a factor, who else? And "hacking" school computers, windows use to let you make folder backgrounds with html, could do some funny stuff.

BrenBarn5• 7 months ago

I used to go into Staples or Circuit City and go to the demo computers. I'd hit the reset button, boot into DOS, open up QBasic, and write a classic program along the lines of 10 PRINT "BRENBARN RULEZ!" 20 GOTO 10. Add a little spacing offset so it would create a wave-like pattern of text. Set it running and skedaddle.

jakebasile• 7 months ago

I think the very first code I wrote was in QBasic, but the first _real_ code I wrote was in Visual Basic 6. I drew a row of dice and then a bunch of buttons and wrote a Yahtzee game (single player). It took me weeks and it was mostly a giant nested if statement.

Good times.

crimsonnoodle58• 7 months ago

Same order for me. Also DOS batch files if they count.

BrenBarn5• 7 months ago

Me too. QBasic and DOS batch files were the gateway drug.

BenoitP• 7 months ago

On the brand new and shiny 486 running dos and windows 3.1 that my father bought, on the qbasic language. With only a paper book as reference. No llm, no stackoverflow, no pageranked search engine, no internet, and not even Ctrl+F. In these days when you had a bug, you could chew on it for days.

qsera• 7 months ago

No llm, no stackoverflow, no pageranked search engine, no internet, and not even Ctrl+F.

Wait, MS QBasic had fantastic in built help, with examples. That is the best kind of help.

jaredsohn• 7 months ago

Similar for me but maybe on a 386; used this 1989 book which had its own version of quickbasic called qbi since qbasic only got added to ms-dos in 1991.

https://www.amazon.com/Learn-Basic-Now-Mike-Halvorson/dp/155...

delusional• 7 months ago

I wanted to cheat in video games. To cheat in video games. For the first couple of years I was content using the offsets published by others, but eventually I wanted to reverse the games myself. That's where people told me that the best way go get good at reverse engineering was to get good at programming.

That set the train moving.

electroglyph2• 7 months ago

yep! reversing Ultima Online clients started it all for me

owisd• 7 months ago

qbasic mainly using previous generation books eg https://usborne.com/gb/books/computer-and-coding-books

Personally find p5js/The Coding Train is the closest thing around to a modern equivalent.

hxugufjfjf• 7 months ago

Never really learned it. Still struggling.

chistev4• 7 months ago

I bet you're better at it than you were before.

Buttons840• 7 months ago

By endlessly asking #python on freenode how to do basic things like utilize a dictionary.

Gabriel_Martin• 7 months ago

#javascript for me

bibimsz2• 7 months ago

experimenting at home with qbasic + college

bibimsz2• 7 months ago

anyone else bootleg quickbasic 4.5 so you could compile to executable?

BrenBarn5• 7 months ago

Oh yeah!

jaboostin• 7 months ago

ZZT! It had its own in-game editor and scripting language ZZT-OOP, which blew my mind as a kid. That was the gateway drug to Flash and ActionScript, HTML, IRC bots, Minecraft mods, and more. Self teaching by building something fun and exciting always worked the best for me. Back when coding was for fun and not money :-)

BrenBarn5• 7 months ago

ZZT was pretty awesome. I wish I still had the games I wrote for it.

cookiengineer• 7 months ago

On the 6502, which a relative gifted me when I was around 9. The cool part was that they also gifted me a huge stack of boxes with C64 magazines in them that contained new games and programs the publishers found cool and wrote about. Then you could type in the code of those games and play or modify them, as a lot of them were commented codes.

The amazing part was the reader comment section in the end, where people were writing letters to the magazine publishers with their modifications to programs from one of the magazines before, so patches were literally transmitted via paper.

To me as a child, I never understood that this was programming. This was just how I could play games on the device.

Amazing memories with the C64, and I was so lucky to get one as a child because it was more common in the human generations before me. Getting a used 386 turbo as the second device was literally child's play when I was learning to write assembly for it when I discovered an assembler program on its hard drive.

zvrba• 7 months ago

Similar story here. C64 was amazing, even to load a game, you had to learn some commands. (Unless the game was in a cartridge.)

Then I got a PC, and learned structured programming with Borland Pascal and later Turbo C. These were great IDEs for the time.

roamerz• 7 months ago

Using an 8051 on a breadboard writing ASM in a text editor and debugged with a tektronix storage oscilloscope. It was super fun.

bobowzki• 7 months ago

My father had a an old HP Vectra 286. Somehow I found the 5.25 floppies with QBasic 4.5 and the manuals and just started experimenting with it. I must have been around 11-12 years old. When I was 14 and doing work experience in system administrator I got a Free sad CD. That started my Unix journey.

stevekemp• 7 months ago

When I was 11 years old my parents bought a 48k ZX Spectrum for the family. These were huge in the UK, and to a lesser extent they were popular in Spain too.

The tape-recorder which was used to load programs from cassette-tape did not work, so my sisters ignored the machine and I started reading the manual, which had instructions and an introduction to BASIC.

Got hooked on BASIC, then z80 assembly, later graduated to working in intel assembly and similar low-level stuff.

These days I'm sysadmin/devops/cloud/whatever pointless title and while I program for fun, and to do terraform, etc, I'm not a coder per se.

another_twist• 7 months ago

Started by reading lots of articles on Topcoder (they have a dynamic programming tutorial which imo is the best material on DP). Then did exercises from CLRS before writing a single line of code. I considered it leg work and not of very high value (remains true though, the best paying jobs in tech are research and in finance its quant trading). Then I dived head first into C++ and Java, slogged through the pain and I got absolutely hooked. I learnt almost all of the computer science I know through books, good old fashioned working through exercises, doing lectures on MIT Ocw. Never paid a single cent for any professional courses or bootcamps or any of that jazz. I did write some Python in high school but most of the work I did while at uni studying something else entirely. My initial objective was not to build anything at all but to just get better at competitive coding. But then I built something reasonably complicated and I have been an engineer ever since. I have worked in ML, distributed systems, low level systems programming in the past 10years. To answer the question I learnt coding by self study.

bawis• 6 months ago

Are you referring to this tutorial?

https://www.topcoder.com/thrive/articles/Dynamic%20Programmi...

gentooflux• 7 months ago

Practical Common Lisp by Peter Seibel, and then The C Book by Mike Banahan, Declan Brady and Mark Doran. No clue why those books in that order, but they both proved to be decent choices.

Then I had a couple of jobs where I was given access to data and opportunities to go beyond my expected duties by doing things with that data, i.e. automation and reporting.

onion2k• 7 months ago

My father was a software engineer (working on satellite control systems ... very cool stuff) and he bought a ZX Spectrum in the mid 80s when I was about 8. That gave me access to Basic and I picked up the fundamentals from there. I didn't love it until university and using the Internet for the first time though. There's something about writing code that people can access from anywhere in the world that I find really exciting.

Considering I've spent 40 years coding things I really should be better at it.

sodafountan• 7 months ago

I was probably about 12-13 when I started learning how to code. I liked video games, and I wanted to have a creative outlet. I started building games with C# and the XNA framework. Eventually, I turned it into a career. (Doing webdev, I've never done professional game development)

That was probably about 20 years ago, I'm 32 years old now.

kopollo2• 7 months ago

There used to be a website called Planet SourceCode where everyone uploaded their own code. I would download the zip files from there and build clone programs by watching how everyone else did it. Mostly programs for Windows XP, Visual Basic and Delphi clones.

kopollo2• 7 months ago

I started my web development with PHP back when there was a free 110MB hosting planner. Running websites there was a lot of fun. These days I still host websites using PHP, but the APIs are usually handled by Rust Node.js in the background. Of course, this depends on the user base. Smaller projects still use pure PHP PostgreSQL.

efitz• 7 months ago

One BASIC class on a mainframe at the local community college in 7th grade. Then 5 years of teaching myself BASIC and 6502 assembly and Logo and Forth on the Apple //e that I begged my parents for. And one year of Pascal in high school.

arionmiles• 7 months ago

By solving problems in my life.

When I was in high school, I needed to automate downloading torrents (I was downloading tons). So I plugged together a bunch of tools including:

1. QBittorrent to run a FileBot script once the file was finished downloading.

2. FileBot script was a Groovy script that renamed and rearranged the contents into proper folders and

3. A small Python script that called the Telegram API to send me a notification that the download was complete.

Then I got into college and learnt they had a web portal which showed metrics like attendance (which turned out to be important) and test scores. So I wrote a Telegram Bot that would scrape these figures and save it into a database and run some calculations such as

1. Tell me how many lectures I needed to sit through to get to a required threshold.

2. If I decided to bunk college on certain days, how much attendance I'd end up losing.

Then I opened up this bot to allow my friends to register. Near the end of the first semester, the test scores were only available on the website but there was no direct link to that page from the public portal. I had found it out playing around on it and noticed they had directory listing enabled on some endpoints which led me to those "unlinked" but functional pages.

I wrote a neat feature which would allow querying this page and send a screenshot of it via my bot. I was running this entire thing on a Raspberry Pi 3B at my home and one morning I woke up to see logs from students I didn't know trying to use the bot (and ended up crashing it haha). Word had gotten around that test scores are accessible only through my bot.

It was one of the best projects I ever worked on. At its peak, I had 300 DAUs and I would hear from my friends in other departments that their entire batch is using Telegram solely for my program. I was also able to monetize it towards the end which felt nice.

These projects served as a learning tool for a lot of stuff for me. I learnt how to manage VMs, containerization, async I/O, DB and ORM integration, how to write good docs.

I still miss it.

chistev4• 7 months ago

You would have made a bit of money from that bot if you had known! Haha

electroglyph2• 7 months ago

i started with x86 intel asm. i just derped around with ollydbg a lot while i referenced the intel instruction set pdf that i had.

after i was able to do basic patches i learned C# (then 1.0) so that i could load and patch processes in Windows. my patches were relocatable and assembled in the hackiest way, heh. why didn't i do C or C++ like a sane person? dunno, but that's how i started =)

w4rh4wk5• 7 months ago

My first coding experience was through the StarCraft 1 map editor. It offered a text-snippet-based scripting system to build rudimentary logic. It was relatively easy to pick up thanks to its documentation and localization.

After that, I played around with HTML/CSS which led me to building things in PHP as this was the go to language for implementing logic on the web.

johannahaffner• 7 months ago

Took a few computational science courses at university and left with basic knowledge of Python and C, and an inkling that I loved coding.

I got good at it by picking GitHub repositories I liked, making sure I understand their architecture top to bottom, as well as why specific technical choices were made. In addition to contributing features, solving issues for users really helped build a strong mental model for the code bases, and that is how I learned. All of this work was done while working towards my PhD, on evenings, weekends and during holidays.

Personally I think this approach has really worked for me! I do think that it does depend on picking great projects to contribute to, in which the quality of the code is extremely high. That is the best way to pick up good habits.

romanhn• 7 months ago

Fifth grade, early 90s, informatics class with Russian-built 8-bit computers (Corvettes). The "programming language" only had drawing commands (LINE, CIRCLE, etc) and the first program was the homework to draw a house. We were to write the program on a piece of paper and then type it up in class the next day. Everybody came in with your basic six-line box + roof. I had two pages of code with a 3D house, door, windows, chimney, shining sun, etc. I was hooked.

After that, a Logo-like language called Roo (with a kangaroo instead of a turtle) on school 286 PCs, then BASIC (with help from magazines) on home ZX Spectrum, and finally Turbo Pascal (with help from, well, the IDE help files) in after-school club, all during middle school. Made up my mind to become a programmer very early on.

yonki• 7 months ago

When I was a kid, I was really into fantasy books and online text-based RPGs. I met some friends through one of those games, and they needed some changes made to their website and forum. Somehow, I ended up working on it. Then I asked my parents to get me a PHP5 book for Christmas. I think I was around 13-14 then. This was one of few programming books I've read thoroughly, although I don't remember anything from it now.

After that I started creating websites, learning HTML and JavaScript. At some point I've found Clojure and functional programming and, immediately, decided it's better than anything else, so I started to learn it. Mostly, I learned by trying to make something, looking through the internet to find help, and joining some online communities. My parents didn't care much if I was focused on school or not, as long as I was doing something, so I had a lot of time to learn by myself.

In high school programming was one of the leading subjects in my class. There I realized I'm already quite proficient at it. I was not the best in math or physics, but was easily the best in programming.

And so it goes on for about 20 years now. I still mostly learn by doing. I read some programming books, but rarely as thoroughly as my first PHP book.

stackghost• 7 months ago

Writing emulators for Ultima Online servers. Sphere Script, then POLscript which was a weird Delphi thing, then C#.

Plus C++ in first year "programming for engineers" and assembly in 4th year robotics

ChristopherDrum• 7 months ago

Applescript; first trying to automate mundane work tasks, then later to build simple GUI apps. That led into more robust Applescript Studio work, which led into learning Objective-C through Big Nerd Ranch and the book/class by Aaron Hillegass. That was all pre-iPhone. When the iPhone released, suddenly my Objective-C hobby skills were in hot demand. And that's how I became the mediocre developer iOS engineer I am today.

hbogert• 7 months ago

Brother's minor included making webpages. Pure html. That led to listings in a computer magazine for making a guestbook in php more comprehensible. That was in 2001. That was enough to get me hooked. Continued with the java bible and by then there was no doubt, going to do CS in uni. I hated it with a passion. And only 10+ years after graduating I understand the value of it

geuis• 7 months ago

BASIC on an Apple II back in elementary school. That was at least my first exposure.

A few years later, it wasn't exactly programming but I was able to learn a bit about assembly on Macs in the 90s with ResEdit.

medwards666• 7 months ago

Copying listings from computer magazines into a ZX81 ... could never get the damn tape drive to save anything that would then reload (either a cheap tape deck, or cheap tapes)... so had no choice but to hand-code.

Also, didn't have the cash to go buy games from the local computer store so this was the next best thing...

JeanMarcS• 7 months ago

This and a Z80 assembler book to speed up a bit code because the basic was really too slow to do anything (had the 16k memory extention too because 800 and something octet were not enough)

jutter• 7 months ago

Playing in Excel one day, I added a button, then double clicked the button, and the world of Visual Basic appeared. It was like peeking behind the curtain. "Is this how they do it!?"

I wrote some surprisingly complex interfaces for online services in Excel, without having much of a clue what I was doing. I didn't understand variables so memory was handled by reading and writing to the spreadsheet - arbitrary cells would hold values, rows were my arrays. In hindsight this very visual way of representing memory was probably helpful to my learning.

nen-nomad• 7 months ago

In fifth grade, my father got me a C64. It came with a basic programming book, in English. I read the pages using the dictionary to translate the instructions into my mother tongue.

I made an 8-bit balloon that floated on the screen. It was magical. It is still after decades.

flowerbreeze• 7 months ago

Over a (rotary) phone with a classmate of mine, who had gotten really-really into programming, explaining how to do things in Turbo-C. Turbo-C had a great help system, so I mostly followed that and my classmate's instructions to make a tiny drawing program and a small RPG that rendered characters straight from FILE* to screen a pixel at a time.

I didn't know how arrays or linking/including worked (or that they existed), so it was one long file with each creature having its own function to determine their behaviour and their own health_creature_1, health_creature_2 and so on. I really started wondering if there was a better way after a while.

BrenBarn5• 7 months ago

I played computer games as a kid and got interested in computers. I looked at books from the library on how to make games. This was in the 90s and many of the library books were from the 70s or early 80s. Many of them focused on computers like the TRS-80 that I had never heard of. Eventually at the library I found the David Ahl books ("BASIC Computer Games" and "More BASIC Computer Games"), and discovered that I had QBasic available in DOS. I started typing in the listings and playing the games. Pursuing this interest led me to get a fat book called "Using BASIC" that focused on QBasic.

I started learning to modify the games I was inputting, and then to write my own simple games. Somewhere in there I also was learning to write DOS batch files to do simple tasks. I wrote a DOS menu system that let you choose which program you wanted to run, to make it easy for me or my siblings to run any of various games, plus "serious" programs like WordPerfect. My dad got me a subscription to Dr. Dobb's Journal and a magazine called DOS World. They had program listings in assembly that I also typed in and tried to modify, just doing super simple stuff like playing the Twilight Zone theme song on the PC Speaker. A bit later I got into text adventures and wrote a few of those using special-purpose languages. I also wrote some games in ZZT. (And oh yeah, another comment on here reminded me I wrote some silly "games" in the variant of basic on my TI calculator, stuff like a Mad Libs generator.)

At some point in high school I started using Python. I think it was Python 2.1. By that point the internet had gotten to the point where I could learn a lot by searching for stuff, and so then I kind of shifted into using web tutorials and newsgroups and forums and stuff, which continued until today. Along the way I played around with a few other languages, like Haskell, and got reasonably conversant with JavaScript, but Python remains "the" language for me.

So I was self-taught, at first relying on books and later on whatever I could scrounge from the internet. I've never taken an actual class in programming or computer science.

Games were a major factor in my early programming development, the other main line being small DOS utilities. The David Ahl books were foundational for me, and I really hope people starting out today can find something like that, something that makes them go "Wow, look at all the things that I can actually do just by taking this code that I don't understand and learning how to mess with it." The "Using BASIC" book was similarly key in that it got me to understand how a programming language had a syntax, data types, and so on. Even when I moved away from BASIC, I pretty easily understood how when I was reading a tutorial on Haskell or Python, it was in some sense telling me the same stuff that that book was telling me, although the languages were quite different.

Since then I've taught programming a few times and I'm very informed by that early experience, basically the idea that learning to program involves just jumping in and wrestling with stuff, exploring and experimenting.

mndgs• 7 months ago

Played video games on ZX Spectrum and some Soviet computer at home. Wanted to learn to code games as a teen, took a course in Basic, very shallow. Then in high school some exposure to Turbo Pascal (90s), learned a bit, but wasn't great.

Then really learned Python in 2010s trying to solve a real-life problem - had to scrape an ecom website, used Scrapy. Now it's Go, quite complex projects, about to launch our SaaS startup.. took a while..

localhostinger• 7 months ago

In IT school back in 2008 (with 14). I had absolutely no idea about the school or programming, I was just knowing my way around computers, so I signed up for it. We started with C and I remember the first couple of weeks and exercises just doing stuff with printf. Then reading user input with scanf. It clicked pretty early for me, and I loved it.

From there on I was always learning faster and more at home as a hobby, I was mostly ahead in school. A friend and classmate and I coded so many different projects during that time (2D terminal game, PHP forum, PHP CMS that was actually productive for a few years, thereby also learning how the internet worked).

It's just crazy how lucky I got to be interested in this thing at the right time. "Back then" I feel you got so much more time to learn something well, mostly because things weren't changing at crazy speed.

chistev4• 7 months ago

Interesting that nobody yet has mentioned Bucky Roberts from The New Boston.

placebo• 7 months ago

Basic on a RadioShack TRS-80. Guess I'm one of the older dinosaurs here.

burnt-resistor• 7 months ago

By sitting in front of Turbo Pascal 6.0 and with trial-and-error, pre internet. (I was 12~13.)

https://winworldpc.com/product/turbo-pascal/6x

System specs: https://pastebin.com/raw/yHqGgxhx

daledavies• 7 months ago

Playing with AMOS basic on the Amiga in the mid 90s, then later with pascal in college. Eventually came back to it with web development as a career.

pentaphobe• 7 months ago

Was offline and had no tech people or resources around, but got access to an unused 286 which booted into a mysterious "C:\" prompt

Slowly worked out how navigate the system, then tried running the various built in things I found

One of these was QBASIC. Started reading through and messing with the example games which were part of the built-in QBASIC in MS-DOS

Reverse engineering how they worked gave a lot of the core concepts (variables, loops, procedures)

After writing a few (very) naff text adventures I stumbled across the intriguingly named "DEBUG" tool

Used debug to step through some of the other built in MSDOS utilities and try to work out what the mysterious symbols were doing (how I learnt assembler and machine code)

Later when I finally found BBSs I started debugging/disassembling some of the BBS mini-demos which were ubiquitous those days, which introduced me to manipulating graphical memory etc.. The smaller size of these, and fact that they were generally coded in assembler was much more useful than reading through compiled code

I do not recommend writing assembler in DEBUG, but wouldn't trade in the learning I got from exploring a total black box with no references or learning resources (beyond time and curiosity)

Felt like doing alchemy

Breza• 6 months ago

Happy to see a shoutout to QBASIC in this thread. That was my first programming language, taught in 10th grade intro to programming. I loved it! I then took C++ at the local community college then AP Comp Sci in 12th grade.

euroderf• 7 months ago

Early 70s. Gotta think.

My nearest public library had a manual on some flavor of BASIC, so I took that out and flipped thru it and wondered how anyone could think it was difficult. Then I had an opportunity to earn a few bucks writing a VIC-20 BASIC program to plot a transformer hysteresis curve.

andreldm• 7 months ago

Game Maker 4.2 and then C with Allegro, lots of unfinished games and prototypes, but it was fun.

Slimbo• 7 months ago

A Dragon 32 from the BASIC manual that shipped with it. This was in 1982. My parents had bought me the machine, which was fortunately blessed with a great keyboard, but it had almost no games for it, and no shops stocked them. So I made my own using the book.

opengrass• 7 months ago

Designed websites and wanted to get into account portal trickery. So I copy and pasted a sample with Firebase Auth, and now I'm learning to adapt my own backend stuff for more features.

jacknews• 7 months ago

Sinclair zx80 then an Acorn Atom when I was a kid. You couldn't do much with them if you couldn't program, so...

boslo-km• 7 months ago

Pre-widespread-home-internet (80s/90s), it was mostly obsessive experimentation while trying to get your hands on books, manuals, magazines, etc. If you were lucky, BBSes and (eventually) walled gardens like Compuserve offered some access to programmer communities.

outofmyshed• 7 months ago

Typing in code from magazines into my ZX Spectrum. Learning a bit of Z80 assembly from a library book. Being taught Pascal at college. Learning Perl to create grammars. Writing Delphi apps to automate stuff on Windows. Teaching myself C from K&R to extend Apache.

thrance• 7 months ago

Bored in math or physics class back in Highschool, programming little games in BASIC on my TI-82, learning everything by just navigating the menus and trying to guess what each keywords meant.

Then, finding programming fun, decided to follow a Java tutorial (I knew the language from Minecraft), and code little projects in it. I made a few simple arcade games for my phone (whose source code I have lost, since I didn't know about git back then...).

Later in engineering school, learned Pascal, Fortran and C. At the same time, became interested in Python and Rust.

Nowadays, I'm a full-time dev, working mostly in Rust and sometimes Typescript.

QuiEgo• 7 months ago

My TFC clan needed a webpage to schedule practices. I decided to make one. It ended up being more complicated than 13 year old me expected, but I was hooked after that.

yareally• 7 months ago

Texas Instruments calculators in high school. Gave me something to do when I was bored in class.

Obscurity4340• 7 months ago

Shoutout to FreeCodeCamp, they were my first serious and sustained intro to coding and also Obama for imploring people to check it out

sbondaryev• 7 months ago

First programs in basic, then I made a calculator in C using Kernighan & Ritchie book. Did some projects in Delphi/Maple at university, after graduation I started working in software companies and learned a lot from more experienced devs.

d13z• 7 months ago

I wrote my first program on an Atari 150XR from a book of write your own adventure at 7y/o, but I have to say I didn't learn to program until much later. At 13 I started doing my own websites with Netscape and I studied from ages 14-18 to be an accountant. At that time we have to do all calculations and reports by hand and I my teacher allowed me to make the assignments in excel 97. Fast forward a couple of years I started to "patch" and install different bulletin boards such as VBulletin, PhpBB, InvisionBB. I think it was maintaining this that I learned how to code.

ifh-hn• 7 months ago

I'm not a professional programmer/developer. I learned to code with Autohotkey so I could save hours a day stitching shitty corporate software together and automate the use of that software; the developers appeared to have been paid by the number of clicks a user needed to do to get anything done.

I also used it for pranks.

This was all in my 30s.

Having caught the bug I now wish I'd discovered this stuff earlier. But due to being extremely poor growing up, undiagnosed dyslexia and another learning disability, and a mistrust of all technology, it was not to be.

I still love Autohotkey but mostly have moved on to "real" programming languages. Nothing better than getting the computer to do your job for you. So most of my programming is automation.

saidnooneever• 7 months ago

no internet yet. was a computer store, they sold some games on floppy, i was like 11 , buying doom on floppy i think or looking at it. the onwer saw it and recommended a book which was about visual basic or quick basic. i told him i wanted to buy the game and he said i wasnt allowed (too violent) and i should buy the book instead..he'd discount it to match the games ' price.

ended up being real thankful for that guy and the kid who showed me that shop and later (15 years later...) got me my first job in IT.

wonderful ppl :)

juancn• 7 months ago

I first learned a Logo dialect in Spanish that we used at school (“HAL Logo en Español”, do not confuse with HAL Laboratories). We had a Commodore-128 laboratory at school (about eight machines with disk drives and monitors). I started learning Logo when I was 8, by the time I was twelve I could program a bit of BASIC also, but not much since literature was scarce.

When I was 12 convinced my dad to get me Commodore 64 instead of a graduation trip (graduation trips are customary in Argentina when you finish primary and secondary school). We bought a used one for U$S 200.

This was 1989 and the social and economic landscape in Argentina was a mess. That year the inflation rate was over 3000% (it is not a typo) and those 200 dollars were a lot of money.

After we got it, my parents were concerned that I might get too obsessed with the computer, so they placed some additional constraints on when I could use it (the fact that we had only one TV might have also been a factor in his decision). I was allowed to use it only on Saturday mornings before noon.

Note that I just got the computer, I didn't have any storage medium.

One great thing about the Commodore 64 was that it came with BASIC, but most importantly, it came with a manual! The Commodore’s Basic manual was my first programming book.

What happened was that I was forced to work as if I had punched cards. I would spend most of my spare time during the week writing programs in a notebook I had. Thinking about ways to solve problems and reading and re-reading the C64 manual.

On Saturday mornings I would wake up at 6 am and hook-up the computer to the TV and start typing whatever program I was working on that week. Run it and debug it, improve it and around noon my mom would start reminding me that time was up. So at that point I began listing the BASIC source code and copying it back to my notebook.

Over the next few years I learned a lot, I re-discovered bubble-sort on my own (I learned the name much later), built hardware gizmos connected to the user port and I even made a very simple multi-tasking interpreter (I eventually got a datasette).

After high-school I studied Software Engineering (not exactly, but the name in Spanish doesn't translate well) and then I really learned to program (heck, I'm still learning).

chistev4• 7 months ago

Cool story.

Basic comes up in lots of stories here.

mikewarot• 7 months ago

The math department at my High School had gotten some Commodore PET computers with floppy drives! To be used in classes starting the year after I graduated. Some of us were given access to them during lunch during my Senior year.

So my first programming was in BASIC.

yodsanklai• 7 months ago

We got a commodore C64 for Christmas when I was about 8. There was a built-in basic interpreter and many books and magazines taught you about that. I don't know if you can call that coding, but I learned how to write simple programs. Then I upgraded to an Amiga, and learned some assembly and some 3D and various graphics effects, mostly from magazines and friends. I eventually got a proper CS education in college and then kept learning ever since.

hackermailman• 7 months ago

Had to modify some program so just read the code and guessed mimicking what I read. It mostly just worked so continued doing that and reading enough docs I could write my own. Did that hacking for years until I finally read a real book on programming languages I think it was SICP but could have been something else before that like a SML compiler book

SRMohitkr• 7 months ago

When I see the first the nvidia gpu rtx 4050 in youtube.

fragmede• 7 months ago

In the before times. Before ChatGPT, Before Stack Overflow, Before Google, even. There were books, with paper indexes!

conductr• 6 months ago

Tutorial sites circa late 90s, before blog was a term. I bought a book about HTML but quickly found it was easier to search and W3schools came online around this time. Google was new and a godsend. Had a few failed attempts with Perl and C. Then stumbled on PHP 3 and the LAMP stack and was off to the races.

Started and ran a web hosting business by 2002. All from googling solutions as they arose, I knew nothing about sysadmin. Quickly got out of it by selling it in 2003.

I continued on with PHP, then rails, python, JavaScript , etc trying to build a billion dollar idea without leaving my apartment without talking to people. I didn’t but I learned a lot. My motivation was always money, I was an entrepreneurial kid way before it was cool.

I view it as a hobby now. I feel like I know enough and can build anything I imagine (video games as exceptions). I like to build things like an inventor would. I never really learned to do the marketing and sales part right. I can do this pretty well IRL but driving traffic has never been fun for me.

minder-4001• 6 months ago

Tracking Russian satellites at school, one of the younger teachers had an account on the local university computer. He did data reduction and orbit calculations in Fortran and showed me the code, letting me try simple stuff. I found the spherical trig nasty, but the Fortan easy to understand.

Shortly after at Uni I wrote a dating system for the Rag Committee (UK thing to raise money for local charities) whilst learning other languages. Had fun with it and annoyed a few people.

Got a job with ICL and they taught me more languages and let me write some useful software as well as some outside-work fun stuff.

These days I use Python, bash and SQL, with occasional Perl. Some of the languages I used to know have completely disappeared like S3, Snowball, Pop3, 1900 assembler and so on.

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