Tesla Cybertruck sales surge 61% in July, outsells direct rivals

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-cybertruck-sales-61-percent-july-outsells-all-rivals-sp-global-mobility/

by ivewonyoung • 2 years ago

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2four22• 2 years ago

"In June, Cox Automotive noted that the Cybertruck was the best-selling vehicle in the United States priced over $100,000."

That's very surprising. Almost more so than the headline.

hindsightbias• 2 years ago

Why? Is there some 4 year pent up demand for Bentley’s or LC500s?

2four22• 2 years ago

You might be surprised at the number of vehicles over $100k. Performance and luxury trucks bump into that category. Genesis and Land Rover have vehicles easily in that range. Just go price out an Escalade or Navigator and it becomes expensive quickly. Long ago was the era of only ferraris and lambos being >100k.

beastman82• 2 years ago

I have significant pent up demand for an LC500

jazzyjackson• 2 years ago

This is deliveries? Are they double counting when one is a lemon and they have to replace it? (I don't know how often this happens)

IAmGraydon2• 2 years ago

They now seem to be as common as any other car in my area. I see one or more every day. I can’t imagine what would make someone want to buy one besides the “hey look I have an obnoxious new thing” effect, and that appears to be quickly diminishing.

dylan6043• 2 years ago

What is your area? They are not abundant in truck country

theultdev4• 2 years ago

They are all over Austin.

Haven't seen many in Texas other than liberal areas.

That said, they're actually really nice, will be getting one after another gen or two.

But I don't view it as a truck, more of a modern bullet-proof[1] el camino, still keeping an ICE truck for work/play.

[1] https://youtu.be/teRRk-0KHus?si=5_98wHeU5pSIP0R6&t=196

starik36• 2 years ago

Not OP, but there are quite few of them in SoCal. Once I saw it in person, I changed my mind about its looks. It's quite striking.

plorkyeran2• 2 years ago

They're pretty common in the SF Bay Area, where non-work trucks are very uncommon. I wouldn't expect to see them in places where using a truck as a daily driver is normal.

mensetmanusman4• 2 years ago

They are a $100k sound system with wheels. Also Shaq just bought his second dark knight mobile.

faeriechangling• 2 years ago

The competition are selling trucks that are significantly less capable than gas trucks selling for loads less.

Tesla is selling a very expensive conversation piece out of a sci-fi movie. There's nothing else really like it.

dylan6043• 2 years ago

Not sure if you're pro/con to it.

notjoemama• 2 years ago

Do they have to be?

ISL2• 2 years ago

Agreed. One must be rather careful when determining the Cybertruck's "direct rivals".

It's got a lot of properties of a "truck", yet it is difficult to imagine utilizing it, especially given the price, in many of the environments for which trucks were originally designed.

dmix• 2 years ago

It's an SUV and I think most people know that and if not a ton of people buy $70k+ pick up trucks when they really only need a normal SUV or car anyway, so it's not like the market was full of rational behaviour and clearly defined work vs consumer marketing by the vendors.

cr125rider• 2 years ago

I drive a Ford Lightning and it’s exactly like my previous F-150 except faster and cheaper to operate. Oh and it was cheaper out of the door than its gas sibling at the same trim level. 10/10 - would buy a vehicle from an experienced manufacturer again.

dangus7• 2 years ago

Which really means deliveries. Manufacturing volume. It doesn’t mean that more people want them.

mensetmanusman4• 2 years ago

Honest question, if Tesla doesn’t have dealership how could they fake delivery to an intermediate?

jncfhnb• 2 years ago

Wasn’t there some notice of them literally committing fraud on these numbers? E.g. counting repairs as new deliveries?

dangus7• 2 years ago

I’m not saying they’re faking deliveries.

I’m saying that it looks like they have sales growth when what is really happening is that they’ve been so constrained on production that they’re only now increasing sales to fulfill back orders.

The problem will arise when the back orders are filled and this too-unique looking truck with only one paint color is everywhere. The novelty wears off and now you’ve got a vehicle similar to the PT Cruiser or VW New Beetle where its unique appearance has worn out its welcome in the market. Five years from now Tesla has no path forward on refreshing the truck. Every single passenger car on the market has a 5 year styling refresh cycle.

BryanLegend• 2 years ago

84 MPGe

gorpy72• 2 years ago

Lots of cynics here can’t separate the baby from the bathwater. You may need to get off your device and try driving one. Moreover, it’s an EV and i know reducing carbon emissions is a value that’s widely held here. It might be that you can’t have your cake and eat it too. It just feels folks here want to align the people with the things with the beliefs and then let the negative opinion span across all of it as if it were one thing. It feels intellectually lazy. Or is it stereotyping? i wonder if these detracting comments are meant to be persuasive or just score points with like the like-minded. Consensus indicates something, i suppose, lol.

dangus7• 2 years ago

No, I can’t separate Tesla from its childish, hateful, misogynist CEO.

No, I can’t separate Tesla from its smug, cultish owners. If you buy a Tesla it has a negative social connotation, the same way BMW owners can’t complain when people make turn signal jokes about them.

But also, my feeling is it’s positioned poorly in the market.

The Hummer EV is a better more capable vehicle that “does it all” a lot better. It’s more luxurious and the build quality is better. It’s better in every spec.

The Rivian R1T beats it out in range and capability as well, and some of its trim levels are cheaper than Tesla.

The Ford F-150 Lightning is cheaper and has a ton of design elements that have been proven by people who do real work.

And next we’ll be seeing the Silverado EV and RAM EV.

The CyberTruck comes in one color, has stainless steel panels basically glued on top of the unibody, has a barebones interior lacking a number of luxuries, and the recalled hub caps aren’t even shipping to customers.

It’s also going to be impossible for Tesla to refresh without major tooling changes. It’ll be like the PT Cruiser or New Beetle where it is overdesigned and can’t be easily transitioned to a second generation.

jackyinger• 2 years ago

Agreed, and to add to the list…

It is about most pedestrian hostile design possible with those sharp corners. How it’s allowed on the roads boggles my mind.

Also it is owner hostile. What other vehicle can you not resell?

Finally, the body panels are all wavy when viewed at a shallow angle. Even the cheapest of cars do not suffer from this.

Avshalom• 2 years ago

You can't get a silverado yet but the GMC Sierra (traditonally the same truck) comes in EV. https://www.gmc.com/electric/sierra-ev/denali-edition-1 Aint cheap but it does already exist.

Demiurge• 2 years ago

No other car looks like a dumpster on wheels, and thats why no one is going to break their neck starring at one, which is what sells.

nineplay• 2 years ago

It's pretty amazing - between the drivers who think Teslas are only for snooty liberals the drivers that want nothing to do with Tesla's CEO you'd think there'd be few left buyers left but still they sell like hotcakes. I'm a boring sedan driver but there must be something people like about the Cybertruck beyond it looking cool.

bobsmooth• 2 years ago

The internet is not real life. Vocal Elon haters are out-numbered by people that want a cool looking truck.

holsta• 2 years ago

try driving one.

I drove a Model Y for >2 years, and it was great. The camp-mode alone brought so many opportunities to stay with friends and family more than I otherwise would have. Camping and sleeping in the car was the only time I had to wake up the dog in the morning. Usually she's up before me.

It used to be that Elon's public persona was a geek who wanted solar panels and EVs everywhere. When there were concerns about battery life, he upped the warranty. There were a few more very positive cases like that.

Then those things slowly feel apart.

Later it turns out we were fooled all along, and he's been a lifelong conservative, mistreated his kids and still does, and lately offered financial support to a wanna-be dictator. I can't even remember every horrible thing now.

Getting rid of the Model Y wasn't easy or cheap, but if I can't stand by my principles when it gets hard, what's the point of having principles?

I know some people who just can't afford to get rid of a car like this, but those who deliberately support a person like Musk are just hanging out in a Nazi bar at this point, and my grandparent literally did bad things to Nazis.

If you ever heard people ask "What did normal people do during the Nazi's rise to power?" -- we're all doing it now.

mensetmanusman4• 2 years ago

They turn like butter in parking lots, it’s crazy no one has done this type of steering on a mass production truck yet.

travisb• 2 years ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadrasteer

GM did it in the early 2000's. It's not generally worth the trade-offs in a pickup truck (cost, durability, maintenance, weight capacity, wheel-well size, etc.).

Descon• 2 years ago

It's been done before https://www.drivingline.com/articles/why-did-gms-excellent-q...

mohaine• 2 years ago

The 48v system voltage and steer by wire make it much cheaper to implement. Not sure how the quadrasteer did it but it wasn’t cheap for GM

rsynnott• 2 years ago

In San Francisco this week, and saw one for the first time (from a Waymo; presumably the cybertruck’s computer was seething with jealousy at the spinning lidar thingy as we passed). Burst out laughing (in my defence I’d had a drink or two, but it’s really an amazingly ridiculous looking object in the flesh.)

outside1234• 2 years ago

God why - so awful looking

nozzlegear• 2 years ago

I thought so too, until I saw one in the wild (they're still very rare where I live). It was quite something coming at us in the opposite lane, and the steel has a neat, purplish, oil-slick sheen to it in the sunlight. I'm not rushing to buy one, I still prefer my Bolt EUV, but I think it looks better in person than it does in pictures.

plorkyeran2• 2 years ago

Seeing them in person made me go from thinking they're kinda stupid looking to thinking they're extremely stupid looking. They're somehow even more ridiculous in person than in pictures.

habosa• 2 years ago

It’s sad to me that this type of car is street legal. It’s so clearly unsafe for everyone on the outside of it (other cars and all humans who share the streets). It’s a massive steel battering ram with acceleration that has no purpose other than entertainment and peacocking. Meanwhile I’m pushing my child in a stroller in fear.

I’m glad the NHTSA is going to start actually testing car safety with pedestrian dummies. That’s a start.

theultdev4• 2 years ago

I think if your child/stroller gets hit with any car it's going to be a problem

itake2• 2 years ago

The height of the vehicle makes it really difficult for the driver to see obstructions.

Smaller vehicles would see the child and stop. The cyber truck would not.. (just because other trucks and suvs are big, doesn't make the cyber truck safer)

jksflkjl3jk3• 2 years ago

What makes you think it's notably more dangerous than any other pickup truck or SUV?

ISL2• 2 years ago

The high sharp corners are indeed intimidating when Cybertrucks pass near cyclists.

Paradoxically for a vehicle that's surely received oodles of aerodynamic attention, it at least doesn't seem like a design that might push a pedestrian to the side or lift them up onto a hood, but rather knock them forward (and then under the vehicle).

A Cybertruck crossed in front of me at a traffic light this weekend in my first Cybertruck encounter as a cyclist. I was surprised by my lizard-brain's involuntary concern as the hood's corner passed by.

Edit to add: it seems like a wide vehicle, too, which adds to the effect.

maxerickson• 2 years ago

They did say "type of car".

Do you think vehicle safety regulations give pedestrian safety an appropriate amount of consideration, in light of the poor forward visibility of many vehicles that are currently for sale?

kcplate2• 2 years ago

Where are you that pedestrian injuries in auto accidents is of greater concern or more prevalent than passenger and driver injuries?

Seems to me that if the bulk of the injuries encountered during a vehicle accident occur to passengers by an order of magnitude greater than pedestrians, it would make sense that design elements that protect passengers even at the expense of pedestrian safety would be a positive overall safety impact.

tim333• 2 years ago

For the US there are about 7k pedestrian deaths and 42k car deaths per year so pedestrian deaths are lower but still significant.

rayrey• 2 years ago

/r/cyberstuck on Reddit for your browsing pleasure

gloryjulio• 2 years ago

My main question is did Tesla fixed cybertruck's quality? They were horrible comparing to even Tesla's own standard

chairmansteve• 2 years ago

Just shows there's an over supply of douche bags currently.

cameldrv• 2 years ago

I never would have guessed Tesla would go from selling electric cars to Democrats to selling electric trucks to Republicans.

7e• 2 years ago

Overall, Tesla sales are down YoY. The Cybertruck is newer than the R1T and F150, so there are still some buyers.

Tesla Cybertruck sales surge 61% in July, outsells direct rivals

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