Woman set up a table to share her collection of washers. Nothing was for sale

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csours• 2 years ago

Reminds me of Mise en Place or Knolling

calrain• 2 years ago

The world is a wonderful place

daft_pink• 2 years ago

This is amazing

ximeng• 2 years ago

Reminds me of this tool museum in Troyes, France: https://www.discoverfranceandspain.com/maison-de-loutil-et-d...

It is filled with hundreds of slight variants of different tools.

mooreds• 2 years ago

I honestly feel that way every time I walk into the hardware store.

rightbyte2• 2 years ago

When doing e.g. vehicle mechanics you need like 4 spanners of different shapes and sizes for each nut size, and like 3 different sockets of different lengths and tap width for each nut size.

My wife accuses me of buying slightly different tools for fun (which I do), but, like, you really need those slightly different tools.

m4633• 2 years ago

I feel hardware stores went the opposite direction.

They show the popular, common things.

I sort of miss stores before the internet. You would get large stores that carried everything, so if you went there for one thing, you would find all the other stuff in the middle.

For instance, hardware stores before home depot/lowes usually had plumbing for all the homes in town, even the really old ones. Lots more brass than plastic.

Nowadays it's like trying to buy a computer at best buy.

michaelt• 2 years ago

A few years back I found a youtube channel about unusual guns.

And it was fascinating because they had all these zany, really distinctive guns like four-barrelled shotguns and revolver-rifles.

Unfortunately they ran out of such weapons pretty quickly and the channel devolved into a lot of "this gun that looks and works just like every other AK-47 is interesting because it was made in Hungary, and most Hungarian AKs received an upgrade but this one didn't" which I personally felt was a bit of a snoozefest.

But if you're interested in seeing a great many very minor variants of mundane items, you might like gun history.

backspace_• 2 years ago

I wonder if you are talking about forgotten weapons with Ian McMullen. I could understand if you would get tired of seeing 50 different iterations of the same rifle. I take it as it is interesting to see how each country in the Warsaw pact or countries that the Soviet union supplied technical packages to, such as North Korea, China, or Vietnam, iterated on the design. How did they improve the design or what were there limitations in manufacturing. What can be learned from the changes they made.

For such, to each their own.

patch_collector• 2 years ago

There’s an interesting museum in Cody, Wyoming that has thousands of guns, including some very interesting ones like whaling guns from the 1800s. Well worth a visit if you have an interest in firearms, especially from the ‘Wild West’ era!

It’s also one of a set of four museums, all of which are very interesting: Art, Natural History, Firearms, and Buffalo Bill.

https://centerofthewest.org/explore/firearms/

more_corn• 2 years ago

There’s a restaurant in Orinda that has a collection of antique firearms on the wall a revolver rifle, an elephant gun, some weirdo pistols with knives on the barrel. It’s super interesting to just see them in person. I’ve never asked for any of the stories.

doe_eyes• 2 years ago

The evolution of firearms is quite interesting because it reflects centuries of progress in chemistry, metallurgy, mechanical design, warfare, and so on. You can definitely tell a compelling story and keep going for a good while.

The problem is that collecting often devolves into obsessing over insignificant details, simply because there's more of them - and if you run out of, you can invent new ones. Look at people who collect coins or stamps and fawn over minor minting or printing defects, etc. The same goes for art collectors, comic collectors, you name it.

beaugunderson• 2 years ago

We found a museum in Haines, AK that contained only hammers--the proprietor had stories to go with many of them. If you stopped to look at any given hammer for more than a second he'd tell you not just a history but an entertaining history of it. Highly recommended:

https://www.hammermuseum.org/

chubot• 2 years ago

"It's hammer time" is the first heading, and then I see "Nailed it!" in the video

Somebody knows how to have fun lol

11thEarlOfMar• 2 years ago

All he has is a hammer?

chris_st• 2 years ago

There's a great tool (and everything else hand-made) museum in Pennsylvania, The Mercer Museum [1].

The Mercer Museum is a six-story reinforced concrete castle designed by Henry Mercer (1856-1930) and completed in 1916. Today, it is one of Bucks County’s premier cultural attractions and a Smithsonian affiliate. The museum complex features local and national traveling exhibits, as well as a core museum collection of over 17,000 pre-Industrial tools. This permanent collection offers visitors a unique window into pre-Industrial America through sixty different crafts and trades, and is one of the world’s most comprehensive portraits of pre-Industrial American material culture. The museum also features a research library that is a center for local history related to Bucks County and the surrounding region, with its roots dating back to the founding of the Bucks County Historical Society in 1880.

1: https://www.mercermuseum.org/visit/mercer-museum/

sambeau• 2 years ago

nknealk• 2 years ago

There's a hammer museum in Haines Alaska with similar vibes. Countless different types of hammers.

https://www.hammermuseum.org

usernamed7• 2 years ago

This is so cool! We need more of this in the world. I don't have any interest in washers, but if her interest is more than superficial I'm sure she could make them interesting. I would definitely chat her up and listen to what she has to say. She'd also be good to do an AMA.

Duanemclemore2• 2 years ago

While the physical form of this is wonderful, the thing I would really want to do is sit down with her and discuss the characteristics and uses of each washer.

ozten• 2 years ago

Yes, I think that is the point?

peppertree2• 2 years ago

If you draw a venn diagram of people that collect washers, and people that would set up a booth to talk to others, the intersection is going to be extremely small.

lqet• 2 years ago

The intersection will most likely only contain this woman.

thsksbd• 2 years ago

No, I think it will also include a smattering of Englishmen, a score of Germans and (maybe) a guy with a mechanical engineering degree who dedicated his career to washers.

m4633• 2 years ago

I suspect there will be a bunch of washer field engineers, and some washer CTOs.

zeristor• 2 years ago

Do you mean like to overlapping washers?

em-bee• 2 years ago

this is part of the first friday art walk happening every month in portland. i can imagine that while this display is still unusual in that context, a lot more people are going to be out looking for interesting stuff, and i'd like to think that at least once in a while an interesting conversation will happen. maybe someone collecting screws or nuts or even offers to add to the collection or someone working with these with their own stories to tell.

SmellTheGlove• 2 years ago

I looked at the photo before I read the tweet itself and was thinking that corner looked familiar! That’s the corner where Congress and Free St, right? I’d recognize it anywhere - when my kid was still small, the children’s museum was still there and I’ve walked past that spot a million times.

Duanemclemore2• 2 years ago

What do you think are the odds she's on HN?

If not... could we get her to join and do a Show HN? Or even an AMA?

Because I'd tune in.

dustfinger• 2 years ago

Can anyone identify the object on the table to her right?

skeletal88• 2 years ago

It is a "third hand", device used when soldering electronics and such.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helping_hand_(tool)

starry_dynamo• 2 years ago

Third hand and magnifying glass. I suppose to get a closer look at them.

rightbyte2• 2 years ago

I am surprised she don't display any spring washers (there are maybe two?). They can look quite fancy. Plain washers get old quickly I guess when you got a set of outer to inner diameter ratios.

Cockbrand• 2 years ago

At least by NASA, spring washers have been declared mostly useless. I'm not an expert on bolt fasteners, but I personally haven't seen a spring washer in quite a while. So I guess she just knows her washers and doesn't care about the functionless ones.

alamortsubite• 2 years ago

Nylocks and Loctite killed the spring washer.

slicktux• 2 years ago

Spring washers, aka lock washers, are useful for low torque settings on small diameter all threads when fastening with a nut; it gives a nice visual of when the nut is secured by ways of the lock washer. Or for visual inspection of battery terminals for UPS systems.

Daub• 2 years ago

I see no circlips. Do they count as washers?

Luc• 2 years ago

There's some interesting shaped ones in the pile closest to her, not really washers I think. I wonder how they were collected/selected - picked up from the streets perhaps?

(I have an extensive collection of hard drive platter spacers)

b112• 2 years ago

The drice spacers make me think of my favourite stick of RAM.

In the 90s, I repaired Commodore Amigas, and I do mean repaired. Back then you'd de/solder replace chips, caps, anything borked on a motherboard.

In one case, it wasn't the motherboard, it was a stick of RAM that seemed borked. Wouldn't even boot with it in place, so I swapped it for a new stick, problem solved.

One day I was opening boxes of product, and my utility knife was MIA. Seeing as it was dead RAM, and it was sitting on the table, I used it to cut the tape on the box. It became my new box opener.

This went on for months, with hundreds of boxes cut open.

Typically I'd just leave it my pocket. All day, home to work, just hanging out in my pocket.

One day at home I needed the pocket space, and threw it on a table. It sat there for months, got wet (spilled beer, drinks), was looked at, touched by 100 people, and then I moved.

Months later, in another city, I had RAM die in my machine. So I dug it out and tried it, and it worked! And I proceeded to use it for another few years in that machine.

Was I mistaken in thinking the RAM was dead? Did the abuse fix it? Either way, that was strong RAM.

Powerful RAM. My favourite RAM.

compiler-guy• 2 years ago

Might have always worked, but had cracked solder connections originally.

emmelaich• 2 years ago

Some of them look like bearings. Close enough!

MisterTea• 2 years ago

One looks like a combo tool that is a small spanner and a key of some sort. The triangular piece might be a tag. The long number 9 looking thing is interesting but anyone's guess, a lever of some sort? Little blue thing looks like one of those rubber faucet washers that comes in a variety pack.

A few non washer items mixed in that stand out are the 1/2 inch conduit locknut and what appear to be a few T-nuts.

That tri-spoked aluminum disk looking thing is also interesting.

pandemicsyn• 2 years ago

Her and Adam Savage would get a long great I bet. He had an entire live stream sorting a box of knobs and handles he picked up at an estate sale, that he was super excited about.

shoggouth• 2 years ago

That’s awesome! Good for her! She seems super interesting.

Lerc• 2 years ago

I am only really aware of washers enough to know that there are a lot of reasons to use washers of which that I am completely ignorant.

That said, I look at this layout and have a bundle of questions about the groupings of washers, the materials, and the non flat ones.

xnx• 2 years ago

Curious to know what her sorting logic was to make that periodic table of washers.

suzzer993• 2 years ago

Lock washers ftw. Simplest design ever, yet perform such a crucial service.

jethro_tell2• 2 years ago

but, not the service of enlarging the contact surface of the bolt or screw head.

Actually, they only perform a tiny fraction of the crucial services performed by washers and can be replaced by loctite in almost all situations, so, I'd contend they are the most worthless of washers.

suzzer993• 2 years ago

But you don't always need more surface area, just something you don't want to wiggle loose, like say your cargo carrier on top of your car that's attached with hand wingnuts. I don't have enough experience with loctite to know if I want to spray it on that.

bobsmooth• 2 years ago

Lock washers don't do anything. Use threadlock.

dredmorbius2• 2 years ago

Lock washers help prevent fasteners from loosening particularly under vibration or similar stress. They're not as effective as LocTite or similar products (adhesive thread treatments), but also don't gum up the pieces.

Somewhat ironically, greasing threads can actually result in a more reliable fastening as it permits removal of the bolt or screw and permits stronger tightening which can increase the physical bond.

If you really want a reliable fastening, use a retaining device such as a cotter pin or retainer ring, or riveted fastenings ;-)

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotter_(pin)>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split_pin>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-clip>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retaining_ring>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivet>

heisenzombie2• 2 years ago

If you're talking about split-ring lock washers, I would think again. They do not accomplish any kind of locking, and may make vibration-induced loosening _worse_ by providing a small opening force. They are useless for almost all purposes.

If you mean something like a Nord-Lock washer, then carry on.

great_wubwub• 2 years ago

Shoulda teamed up with the umbrella cover museum: https://www.umbrellacovermuseum.org/

Right across the water on Peaks!

m3kw92• 2 years ago

What’s crazy is that I went in expecting washing machines

m3kw92• 2 years ago

I think there is a huge crowd there by now

krisoft• 2 years ago

To be honest i don’t understand washers. I heard that they are important and I put them where the instructions tell me / where i found them, but i wouldn’t know why. I hope others have a more intuitive understanding of them and not everyone is just cargo culting like I do.

aetherspawn• 2 years ago

Washers are designed to spread out the force of the bolt head over a larger area so that the bolt can be done up to a tighter torque without damaging the contact area.

They are actually quite malleable, which is kind of required because the contact area could be imperfect or ever so slightly angled.

A bolt on the other hand, there is almost no malleability there at all. Most bolts are rigid and inflexible because of their geometry and because the tiny threads need to be very strong.

In recent years, washers have evolved a little further and now many washers also include a locking feature to prevent the bolt from coming undone. You also see thicker washers and spring washers which are designed to regulate the bolt force even if the temperature varies a lot and the bolt expands or contracts.

Finally, the washer material might be important. Steel bolts corrode against everything, so most washers that you find are probably zinc plated or similar and designed to insulate the bolt head material from the contact surface material.

analog31• 2 years ago

I deal with washers, in the development of precision mechanisms. They can serve a lot of useful purposes. For instance nuts and bolts can gouge into the parts that they're holding together. A washer provides a sort of sliding bearing between the two, that takes the brunt of wear, and is easily replaced.

It can spread out a load on a hole, including if the holes are made oversized to make up for tolerance variations in the parts. This is useful for bolting together wooden structures, or softer materials like aluminum.

Stocking a variety of washers could be cheaper than stocking multiple types of bolt heads and nuts.

It can be a spacer.

There are specialized washers that can take up small angular tolerance variations, such as the spherical washers in some bike brake pads.

You don't see them everywhere, and using them by habit isn't necessarily the right thing to do in all cases.

anothernewdude• 2 years ago

Is there a mirror available? Twitter never loads for me.

thewarpaint• 2 years ago

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPgWhG0XAAAboFB?format=jpg&name=...

dredmorbius2• 2 years ago

<https://archive.is/L0FJy>

htk2• 2 years ago

This brings me a lot of joy. I hope she gets the attention she deserves. I'm fascinated by people with deep and narrow interests.

next_xibalba2• 2 years ago

I know I'm going to get a lot of hate for this, but here goes: what attention does she deserve? I always wonder this with collectors. They simply gather things that were created through the ingenuity and know-how of others. This doesn't strike me as any more remarkable than the Funko Pop collector. Of course, I am NOT saying her hobby should be derided. More power to her. But it certainly doesn't strike me as something praiseworthy.

davidmurdoch• 2 years ago

Neither are the drawings my young children make. But I'm going to praise them for it anyway, and I'm going to sincerely mean it when I tell them I love it.

I think it's a good exercise in humanity to find joy in the joy of others, and validating their joy is even better, even if it's not fruitful or even useful.

pavel_lishin• 2 years ago

What does anyone deserve?

I'd stop and talk to her, because I'd find it interesting.

mcbishop• 2 years ago

If you're new to building things that involve washers, and she's happy to teach the nuances of different washer types... that's helpful and awesome!

defrost2• 2 years ago

It's entirely possible she has mechanical engineering qualifications or aviation engineering certification, can machine washers and understands how and why all the variations are used much as, say, this person appears to: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40629075

People that deeply understand particular subjects are valuable when those subjects are key to things that make the world work, they both keep things going for now and educate others to do the same in the future.

htk2• 2 years ago

No hate from me, that's a fair question. Looks like she made herself available to talk about her hobby/passion, and organized it in a way that suggests effort and care.

I hope she gets at least the attention I would give her if I had the chance.

reaperducer• 2 years ago

I know I'm going to get a lot of hate for this

Then why did you post it? To draw attention to yourself? To feel falsely superior to a complete stranger?

Hnrobert42• 2 years ago

I think you are confusing attention and praise. Most folks here seem to be saying this is attention worthy not praiseworthy.

strken• 2 years ago

I don't think she "deserves attention", and in fact that's a very strange way to look at what she's doing, but odds are she's sharing her washer collection with other people because she enjoys collecting and talking about them. Saying it's about attention is both an insult and a logical stretch.

seemack• 2 years ago

No hate but saying that collectors simply gather things that others made is rather dismissive. It may certainly be true in some cases but it's also very possible that true, potentially even ingenious, effort was required on the part of the collector to build, maintain, and be knowledgeable about the collection.

xarope• 2 years ago

Because there are people who are willing to spend an inordinate amount of time delving deeply into a hobby, and these people are also the personalities who will chime up in HN one day to point out your hobby code has (1) a potential optimization, or (2) a major bug, or (3) is really cool and they would like to use it one day in one of said hobbies.

If there's anything I've learnt, appreciate the wisdom of these collectors, whether to appreciate the simple design of a flower, or the esoteric nature of a highly complicated mechanical computer.

me_me_me• 2 years ago

what attention does she deserve?

All attention that was given, I guess. Its not like she is making anyone do anything. People who like it talk about it. That's all

D13Fd• 2 years ago

In context I think “attention” just means the poster hopes some people stop by her table to talk. I agree with that.

I think this kind of activity is better for society as a whole than, for example, playing video games or watching TV. It’s natural these days to think well of people who care about things other than media.

croes2• 2 years ago

Is the picture of her posted with her consent?

samatman• 2 years ago

Consent is not necessary to take or share photographs taken in public.

Also, probably yes.

croes2• 2 years ago

Consent is not necessary to take or share photographs taken in public.

Maybe not legally, depnds on the country, but morally.

Epecially now since AI training data is ripped from every possible source.

spicyusername• 2 years ago

Love it. More of this in the world please!

Fire-Dragon-DoL• 2 years ago

For some reason, I thought it was a collection of washing machines

SavageBeast2• 2 years ago

For all the CNC machining videos I watch (its a thing - check it out), If a person made a series of chill videos explaining the finer points of a well curated washer collection I'd watch it.

Ballas• 2 years ago

I can imagine watching an entire ThisOldTony video on washers. In fact, the topic of the video probably does not matter at all.

SavageBeast2• 2 years ago

Thanks for turning me on to ThisOldTony! Im 4 videos deep this morning already.

RecycledEle• 2 years ago

Say you have autism without saying you have autism.

I am not criticizing. I also have autism, and I buy bulk lots of used hardware (nuts, bolts, screws, etc.) on eBay mostly to sort them by thread pattern.

mikewarot• 2 years ago

She needs a set of hemispherical washers to help complete the set. You use when the opposite faces of a part aren't quite parallel.

jeffrallen2• 2 years ago

There are also nifty springy ones you use in bus bars in order to keep the clamping force equal through a range of temperatures, because of the differential in heat expansion between copper and steel.

sircastor• 2 years ago

One of the things that I love about a lot of booths at MakerFaire is that they’re just someone who wants to share a project they made. No business, no Kickstarter, no fundraising. Just me and my Kinect-controlled Roomba.

EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK• 2 years ago

"These are so my kinda humans."

Pretty girls? Sure.

defrost2• 2 years ago

Wonder if it was a man, instead of a pretty woman, would it reach HN top?

Probably.

It's a table full of washers laid out and grouped for feck's sake.

Read the coments, read the room .. if only it had been a table full of hammers.

mmarian• 2 years ago

I wrote about a guy who collects vintage lighters in a now discontinued blog: https://tiktokexamples.com/blog/histoireduneflamme-old-light...

ortusdux• 2 years ago

I hope she has one of my favorite washers - a Nord-Lock Wedge Lock.

https://www.grainger.com/product/12W484

Woman set up a table to share her collection of washers. Nothing was for sale

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