Alexis Ohanian speaks out against “always-on” work culture

https://www.wsj.com/articles/always-on-work-culture-creating-broken-people-says-reddit-co-founder-11558464608

by petethomas • 7 years ago

231 137 7 years ago

Can some kind soul provide the body of the text for us poor souls or instructions for how to access the article? No luck with the web button or outline.com.

Etheryte• 7 years ago

I don't really see why it's okay to submit paywalled articles to HN to begin with. Either a) someone finds an open source for it, which the OP should've done instead or b) only a small subset of the users can actually access the content being discussed.

chewz2• 7 years ago

I don't really see why it's okay to submit paywalled articles to HN to begin with.

Why? I would probably haven't found this article if not on HN.

futureshock• 7 years ago

I find the paywalls on NYT and WSJ a bit bizzare to begin with, especially now that they're closing the loopholes to read an article now and then. Certainly any business has the right to charge for its content, but as newsrooms have shrunk and journalists have been retrained for the clickbait era, these articles are typically worthless fluff or outrage porn. Though I can't actually read this article, I assume that the catchy title references a breif moment from an interview, not a deep cultural analysis. I would pay for the latter, but not the former.

readingnews• 7 years ago

I will just go ahead and carry on the tradition, as it was smacked onto me the last time I complained about a paywall:

The FAQ ( https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html ) states clearly that paywalls are ok.

No matter how much we hate them, apparently.

CPLX• 7 years ago

Should we limit our discussions of software to only free software, or not discuss Apple’s new laptops until they are giving them away? Or is journalism the only thing that you feel deserves this treatment?

a_imho• 7 years ago

If the links dont work for you why not flag them?

drubio• 7 years ago

Add ?mod=rsswn to the end of WSJ urls

(e.g. https://www.wsj.com/articles/always-on-work-culture-creating... )

westmeal• 7 years ago

Nice trick!

chewz2• 7 years ago

“All of us who decide to start a company, we’re kind of broken as people,” because founders are often singularly-focused on the success of their venture, said Mr. Ohanian. Even with great mentors and investors supporting their vision, entrepreneurs tend to put a great deal of pressure on themselves to work harder than anyone else to achieve success and profitability. That psychological pressure is compounded by what he and others refer to as “hustle culture.”
“You have this culture of posturing, and this culture that glorifies the most absurd things and ignores things like self-care, and ignores things like therapy, and ignores things like actually taking care of yourself as a physical being for the sake of work at all costs. It’s a toxic problem,” said Mr. Ohanian.

turk73• 7 years ago

They admit it but don't do anything about it. The very definition of a psychopath. I have no issue with people who are driven, mind you. The issue is that it leads to quality of life suffering for everyone in the company as expectations continue to ramp.

I just don't buy into it anymore. Management where I work attempts to pressurize people and I just laugh. Yes, the "hustle" culture is right--so your boss's boss's boss can make $20M last year while you have to cut coupons.

ryan-allen• 7 years ago

Which is, why I wonder, is a VC of (presumably?) tech companies trashing the hustle culture? If he lends some founders some money, does he want them to be home to spend time with their kids and their spouse, or is he seeking a return?

I can't help but think this is just some PR for Alex. Maybe someone can prove me wrong?

cryoshon• 7 years ago

Management where I work attempts to pressurize people and I just laugh. Yes, the "hustle" culture is right--so your boss's boss's boss can make $20M last year while you have to cut coupons.

yep, that's what happens when incentives are extremely mis-aligned. you know very well that you probably won't get paid more if you're more productive. and management knows that they'll always get paid more if you're more productive.

but they still refuse to bridge the gap and make it so you get paid more if you are more productive because it would mean a smaller payout for themselves in the short term.

of course, this severely limits their ability to earn in the long term due to the massive gap between potential productivity (with genuine incentivization by sharing of revenues earned by additional productivity) and the actual productivity of their employees, but i haven't met a single C-suite person who understands the concept.

chasd002• 7 years ago

Some people refuse to take care of themselves, others do not. To lump all entrepreneurs/founders in to a single group is ridiculous, the people who start companies are the most individualistic members of society.

balt_s• 7 years ago

the people who start companies are the most individualistic members of society.

So they're all like each other in that they are all unique individuals, like the lads in Dead Poets Society!

itamarst2• 7 years ago

Based purely on chewz' quote, since paywall: the problem isn't just the impact on founders, it's all the employees who get screwed as a result of the founders' misguided beliefs.

If the person on top works long hours, they pressure their underlings to work long hours in a whole bunch of different ways (https://codewithoutrules.com/2017/06/21/why-company-want-lon...).

(Updated with archive.org link)

ddebernardy• 7 years ago

FYI the JWZ link redirects to http://i.imgur.com/32R3qLv.png when HN is the referrer and you've never visited the site.

itamarst2• 7 years ago

Interesting. I switched to an archive.org link.

SolaceQuantum• 7 years ago

I find the effects of overwork to be quite interesting- a lack of space for self makes it impossible to perform actually life enriching behaviors such as retreats, meditations, socialization, and hobbies. This means there's simply no room for any other entertainment or enrichment beyond the most shallow/fast/addictive stuff - social media, twitter wars, the thrill of buying nice things.

(EDIT: I should emphasize why it's so interesting to me because people often overwork with the justification for life enrichment, but the actual act of overworking reduces space/time for life enrichment!

tunnuz• 7 years ago

Nicely said.

Sharlin3• 7 years ago

Conveniently, consuming shiny things and lowest-common-denominator mass media is what the Western society very much encourages us to do. Work, consume, repeat.

McWobbleston• 7 years ago

It's the most efficient way to extract value from us

esoterica• 7 years ago

And it’s still less toxic a hobby than being annoyingly smug on the internet.

walshemj• 7 years ago

Depends which social class and country are we talking about here its not as cut and dried as that.

apoptosis12• 7 years ago

Maybe its by design - give people too little time to live their lives that they come to depend on services and consumption thus perpetuating capitalism.

eeZah7Ux• 7 years ago

This is exactly by design. It encourages consumerism and the idea of consuming your limited free time with entertainment and superficial activities.

But it goes far beyond that. With limited free time people cannot develop political consciousness and drive social change.

There are historical examples: most dictatorships go/went very far to keep people busy and preserve the status quo.

Universities, on the other hand, has been often driving social change given that students usually have more free time and freedom to organize their time.

bpyne2• 7 years ago

"Bread and circuses"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bread_and_circuses

everdrive3• 7 years ago

This is exactly correct. The more one overworks, the worse his impulse control becomes. After a long enough stretch of overwork (months, years) one can be transformed into something else entirely. Fat, drinking too much, angry at the internet. He could see it happening every day, and every day lose the fight to stress and easy relief.

mjfl2• 7 years ago

I can’t think of any of the big founders that were fat alcoholics - bill gates, Steve Jobs, Zuckerberg, bezos? Pretty sure they all work all the time, as in no weekends, get emails at 11 pm every day, at least when they worked.

hef19898• 7 years ago

It kind of changes your character. Some people cope by drinking or eating, others whatever means. The insidious thing is: the change happens so gradually that it is, IMHO almost impossible to recognize while it is happening. You do recognize when the circumstances change, by which point it might be too late. A solid social network of friends and family helps, but is also one of the first things to loose with this lifestyle.

bko• 7 years ago

I don't have a source, but I'm pretty sure that the people who enjoy what you call the most shallow/fast/addictive entertainment probably work the least. I don't think people that are unemployed (voluntarily or not) or work few hours enjoy many of those life enriching behaviors. Personally I find that those are most enjoyed by those who work a lot professionally, although not at the extreme end, and make time for it.

[edit] Found a link suggesting that video game use is correlated with unemployment or working fewer hours. It's not clear whether those individuals are using it to fill time or are dropping out of the labor force to pursue more of these types of leisure activities.

They are not leaving home; in 2015 more than 50% lived with a parent or close relative. Neither are they getting married. What they are doing, Hurst reckons, is playing video games. As the hours young men spent in work dropped in the 2000s, hours spent in leisure activities rose nearly one-for-one. Of the rise in leisure time, 75% was accounted for by video games. It looks as though some small but meaningful share of the young-adult population is delaying employment or cutting back hours in order to spend more time with their video game of choice.

https://www.1843magazine.com/features/escape-to-another-worl...

radcon• 7 years ago

I don't think it's just overwork that has this effect. Work, in general, along with the constant pressure to remain "employable" forces us to structure our lives in a way that leaves very little time and/or energy for other meaningful endeavors:

I begin with a simple-sounding question: at what point does a day’s work truly end? Whilst our jobs might contractually oblige us to work a certain amount of hours per day, it is clear that we do not simply step out of our workplaces and into a world of freedom. This was brought to light by Theodor Adorno in a short but poignant essay from the 1970s called ‘Free Time’. Adorno questioned the extent to which workers are truly autonomous in their time outside work, arguing that the covert aim of non-work time is simply to prepare people for the recommencement of work: free-time is not free at all, but a mere ‘continuation of the forms of profit-oriented social life’. This is because it involves activities which often have a similar quality to work (looking at screens, doing chores), but also because more alienating or exhausting forms of work produce a powerful need for recuperation. By draining people’s physical and mental energies, work that is alienating ensures that much of the worker’s non-work time is spent winding down, retreating to escapist forms of entertainment, or consuming treats which compensate for the day’s travails.

https://www.zedbooks.net/blog/posts/free-time-pressures-empl...

thegranderson• 7 years ago

Full Text: ALWAYS-ON WORK CULTURE CREATING ‘BROKEN’ PEOPLE, SAYS REDDIT CO-FOUNDER

Alexis Ohanian speaks out against toxicity of ‘hustle porn’ that glorifies ‘most absurd things’

Alexis Ohanian, venture investor and husband of tennis superstar Serena Williams, loves getting asked how he balances family life and his career as managing partner of Initialized Capital.

He and Ms. Williams became first-time parents in 2017, and in the months that followed, Mr. Ohanian frequently spoke out about why it was so important for him to take time away from the Bay Area firm he co-founded to bond with their daughter.

Parental leave wasn’t only a fun way to spend 16 weeks with their newborn Alexis Olympia Jr., he said at The Wall Street Journal’s Future of Everything Festival on Tuesday, but it was also a reminder of why work should never be the only metric for measuring success.

“I’ve spoken out quite a bit about things like ‘hustle porn,’ and this ceremony of showing off on social [media] about how hard you’re working,” said Mr. Ohanian, who previously co-founded online discussion forum Reddit. “Y’all see it on Instagram and you certainly see it in the startup community, and it becomes really toxic.”

Business men in his position are rarely asked about juggling the requirements of their roles outside of work, like in their family, he said, and that contributes to unrealistic expectations that a job can reflect the entirety of anyone’s identity as a human being.

“All of us who decide to start a company, we’re kind of broken as people,” because founders are often singularly-focused on the success of their venture, said Mr. Ohanian. Even with great mentors and investors supporting their vision, entrepreneurs tend to put a great deal of pressure on themselves to work harder than anyone else to achieve success and profitability. That psychological pressure is compounded by what he and others refer to as “hustle culture.”

“You have this culture of posturing, and this culture that glorifies the most absurd things and ignores things like self-care, and ignores things like therapy, and ignores things like actually taking care of yourself as a physical being for the sake of work at all costs. It’s a toxic problem,” said Mr. Ohanian.

This issue isn’t limited to technology companies, he added, noting that his acquaintances in finance and other industries also promote an unhealthy attitude that encourages 12-hour work days and few breaks.

“Social media has made it possible to weaponize it to the point where, if [bragging about your difficult workweek] gets hearts, you’re incentivized to keep pushing” the limits.

walrus012• 7 years ago

I find the idea of working more than 40 hours a week to create something ultimately optional and meaningless... Just utterly preposterous.

People treat the "crunch" as if it's an epic accomplishment of world shaking importance to write a slightly better Android food delivery app, or slightly optimize video ad delivery.

I have worked on networking and IT projects in immediate post-disaster relief environments, and in active combat zones, where it might be justifiable to work 12 hours a day, 6 days a week.

But it's just laughable that some corporation expects people to do that for something which is frivolous. Look at the recent news article about the abuse of their staff involved in the development of the recent Anthem video game...

https://kotaku.com/how-biowares-anthem-went-wrong-1833731964

Cthulhu_• 7 years ago

Yup; if you're not guaranteed of either direct rewards (paid by the hour, overtime pays extra) or indirect rewards (you're working on a product where every hour spent means a better product - this is probably where a lot of people miss the point), it's not worth it.

Employers and employees both need to learn about sustainable pace. Doing 60+ work weeks will mean nothing if you end up burned out and unable to do anything at all after a few months.

everdrive3• 7 years ago

Most of the tech companies these days speak in terms of "revolutionizing," or "reinventing," or "re-imagining," and it's all fluff. I don't even suspect this is strictly deceptive. I think people (and founders in particular) are starving to be meaningful and important. They need it in their lives. And so, they tend to describe their work aspirationally. Claims such "No one's ever do this before" will accompany a website that sells goods and services. People are clamoring to be important, and aren't really sure how to get it.

h2odragon• 7 years ago

I can recall only a couple of actual time critical rush projects in a career of non-profit IT work, which was filled with high stress "we've got to have this now and CHEAP" exhortations. They were not "disaster relief" important, they were "the meeting will not come off as scheduled" important.

I was proud to work that hard partly because I felt no one else would do the work if I didn't, and partly because I expected I was building equity towards an early retirement where I wouldn't have to work so hard. I wound up expending my health and enriching others instead.

At least I enjoyed the work as I was doing it; I can't imagine how horrible it'd be to look back on 10, 20 years spent doing something you hate and realize that you didn't even get paid.

skilled2• 7 years ago

Actually, another way to look at it is, are you going inside work culture as a broken person? Meaning, do you have a choice to be healthy and balanced in life? And if you don't, what is standing in the way of that?

If the answer is "hustle", then you ought to take responsibility rather than crying about it.

skilled2• 7 years ago

Aww, the HN crowd couldn't take a pinch of salt in their sugary sweet dream.

merricksb• 7 years ago

Paywall bypass link:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/always-on-work-culture-creating...

caseyw• 7 years ago

I worked for years in a role that was "always-on". To the point it cost me more than I gained. I've lost years of my life through that experience, and only towards the end could see the toxicity of it all. I'm finally free with a healthy work life balance and can't understand what I was thinking, if I was thinking anything at all.

toomuchtodo• 7 years ago

Congrats on the escape. Champion the idea of shedding toxic employment to others.

wastedhours2• 7 years ago

I don't get "hustle porn" in the slightest - I want to see people who succeeded by doing the least possible.

You have a private jet because you worked 18 hours a day 7 days a week for 10 years? Sacrificed evening meals with your partner and kids, missed spending time with your parents before they got old, and generally only commit to "quality time" (which is largely bullshit) for self and social care? Nah thanks pal.

You're driving that Ferrari because you make something that makes money, you pay people a decent wage and give them good working conditions to take it all off your plate so you only spend a few hours a week doing the bits you enjoy? That's the sizzle right there.

Telling Gary Vee to put a cake in it would be a good start.

algaeontoast• 7 years ago

Gary Vee is the anti-vaxer equivalent of "hustle culture" - you'd learn more about business listening to one of Michael Eric Dyson's unintelligible rants than listening to Gary Vee...

He has no understanding of the notion that working hard is supposed to compound your productivity not always be the way you go about life...

crsv• 7 years ago

This is the perfect description of Gary Vee.

wildmindwriting• 7 years ago

I think this is often what Gary Vee is misjudged on. I've listened to more than a few of his talks, read his books, and find his message is that you should throw your all in, if that's what you want. If you want to have your Saturdays with your kids, go do that. Matt D'Avella had an interview with Gary Vee that acknowledges this. He seems to be very much about living your own life and not subscribing to the hype.

"Are you doing something you enjoy to do? Happiness and fulfillment has to become a much bigger part of the conversation than financial upside. I'm always very hurt when people think that I'm pushing hustle and too much work."[1]

[1] https://youtu.be/nhMuBEvopk8?t=298

mlady3• 7 years ago

not sure why you're being downvoted. You even cited a source! I agree that his content is mostly "hustle your face off" IF you're NOT happy, and he only occasionally talks about what to do IF you ARE happy (which is keep doing what you're doing).

onemoresoop3• 7 years ago

The problem with what you want is that a lot of times you think you do know it, you've heard so many success stories and subconsciously you follow the herd, but in reality what you really want is yet to be discovered. Once you have truly found what you want, what you're natural at, you don't need any more validation.

skizm• 7 years ago

Plenty of people would sacrifice 10 years of their life for private jet type money. The problem is there is no guarantee that putting in the time and effort will result in that kind of money. It will probably at least equal decent money, but decent money isn't private jet money and I'd agree that decent money isn't worth a decade of my life.

wastedhours2• 7 years ago

Totally - it almost inevitably doesn't work out positively, but even amongst the survivorship bias of the stories we're spun by these people they focus on the all-nighters and the sacrifices of the successful.

Obviously on the flip side there are the other snake-oil salesmen selling you "work from a beach doing nothing" crap, but there's definitely a middle point of highlighting the success of people who did the minimum they possibly could to succeed.

newyearnewyou• 7 years ago

Thank you!

docker_up2• 7 years ago

Gary Vee is a snake oil salesman. He knows the right things to say and he's incredibly charismatic. But from a business point of view, his hustle-porn guru business is way more successful than anything he did previous to that. Sure he's a successful business person but he wasn't something special. It was his "motivational talks" that are his real claim to fame, so he's basically famous for being famous.

mprev• 7 years ago

My anecdote is that people I come across who quote him tend to have a lot of anxiety and pent-up energy around the idea of wanting to be in business but they don't have an idea, skill, or plan.

So, the business proverbs they live by both give them hope and amplify their anxiety that their opportunity is slipping away with each day that they're not hustling.

mlady3• 7 years ago

Gary Vee only preaches hustle if you're not happy with where you're at. And it isn't necessarily hustle to make more money. It's hustle to do what you want to do so that you are happy. If you are already happy, he just encourages you to "keep doing you".

slouch• 7 years ago

He grew his father's liquor store 20x before anyone knew who he was. Your third sentence is a weird way to say he's built upon that early success. As far as, "his real claim to fame," he's responsible for the most recent Planter's Peanuts Superbowl commercial and a pretty big Budweiser basketball campaign. If you think his keynotes have a bigger impact that's a matter than could be debated.

misiti3780• 7 years ago

what is hustle porn ?

tclancy• 7 years ago

Articles about how hard you worked, how you went above and beyond and slept at work, etc. Sort of like comic books that are "torture porn": how long can Batman/ Wolverine/ Daredevil suffer like this before we get a cathartic end?

After a lifetime of Catholic schooling, the appeal to me seems deeply rooted in something about being crucified. Which doesn't really seem enjoyable, but YMMV.

fullshark• 7 years ago

The idea "If I work hard enough I can get what I want" is appealing because it means your end goals are possible.

hluska• 7 years ago

Great comment - I like you!! :)

bitwize• 7 years ago

Sacrificed evening meals with your partner and kids, missed spending time with your parents before they got old, and generally only commit to "quality time" (which is largely bullshit) for self and social care? Nah thanks pal.

"Nice guy? I don't give a shit. Good father? Fuck you! Go home and play with your kids."

Hustle porn comes from the idea that if you take your eyes off the prize, someone who wants it more than you is going to work harder for it, come up and take it from you.

ForTheBetter• 7 years ago

While certainly true, statements like these fail to ignore why tech folk grind so hard-- because if they don't and someone else does then they are at an objective disadvantage. That's not to say that means they cannot or will not succeed, but if one tech founder is working 60 hours a week versus 40 hours a week (assuming they are both efficient) then there is a clear advantage.

If your going to hustle, do it young when you don't have responsibility. Don't be the dude with a kid missing dinners and school plays. But if I'm young and want to grind to build something I'm passionate about then I don't think that is so wrong or toxic-- just don't fucking post about it on social media.

mtberatwork• 7 years ago

...but if one tech founder is working 60 hours a week versus 40 hours a week (assuming they are both efficient) then there is a clear advantage.)

There really isn't a clear advantage here either since no one is achieving 100% efficiency like that week after week. [1]

[1] https://hbr.org/2015/08/the-research-is-clear-long-hours-bac...

Raidion• 7 years ago

Efficiency isn't the metric people care about on either side of the equation though. Management only cares about results. If you work 3 hours at 100% efficiency, 5 at 75% and 3 at 50%, that's still more results than working 4 at 100% and 4 at 75%. On the other side of the equation, the worker gets to see and handle more technology with the longer hours, which make them more attractive in interviews. If you're working 50 hours of week instead of 40, even with productivity hits, you're still "gaining" a week of experience roughly every month. That means at 2 years, you're actually at almost 3 years of experience, and that pays off. Repeat this for a few more years, and the difference adds up and matters.

I'm not advocating for that lifestyle at all, but there is something to be said for just having more time with code. You obviously need to have an endgame plan, as staying at one company often doesn't scale your career, but if that 2nd year dev is able to get a prime spot because of his extra "year" of experience, and repeat a few times... There is money to be made.

chasd002• 7 years ago

I agree, i think there's nothing wrong with being passionate about your work or building a company. However, it's not ok for others to suffer because of it. Neglecting family or spouses is wrong... it's a contract violation more or less. An absentee dad/mom/partner is not what they signed up for.

notacoward• 7 years ago

It's a tragedy of the commons, where the commons is our individual and collective mental health. Working your ass off might be an individually rational choice, but even if that's true (opinions definitely vary) the result of everybody doing it is a significantly crappier society.

TomMasz• 7 years ago

My last job was managing product security for a company that has customers worldwide. The first and last things every single day I did was check my email on my phone, weekends and holidays. When I got out of the job my health greatly improved to the point where I had my blood pressure medication lowered. "Always-on" is a killer.

KaiserPro• 7 years ago

The fundamental engine of growth in the economy is the continual increase in productivity.

that is the increase of unit of work per staff head.

Having staff work hard, not smart lowers productivity, and therefore profit.

For example uber:

IF they were a company capable of making a profit, it is because currently they have a virtually staff free monitoring and dispatch system (that is, no branch offices, no radio dispatcher, no mechanics etc.)

However thats only a small part of thier overheads. The vast majority comes from paying their drivers. Adding more drivers adds cost linearly.

However if they were to somehow manage to perfect driverless cars, their productivity would smash through the roof, as they can replace linear cost increases with an upfront capital cost (ie, buy loads of self driving cars instead of paying a per mile cost.)

If you are working your staff 996, not only are they going to burn out, they are going to be inefficient. There are legions of studies that date back to the early 1900s that prove this. In china there is an abundance of staff, so one does not need to worry, as if you burn out 35% a year, they can always be replaced, cheaply.

but you can't afford to do that if you have a limited talent pool.

dnissley• 7 years ago

Recently heard a good ted talk and good podcast with Andrew Taggart who is using the term "Total Work" to describe this phenomena.

He leans a lot on this old german book called "Leisure: The Basis of Culture", and asks the question "Why do we work?" His answer is that work should be a means to an end, and that end is to be able to lead a life where we engage fully with love, art, philosophy, and spirituality. This seems to me to be a bit too tightly defined, but definitely made me think more intentionally about what it is I'm living for.

Ted Talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7UonZl-Gis

Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/andrew-taggart-philoso...

temp99990• 7 years ago

Maybe this is a bit cynical but is this not like if the CEO of Pepsi spoke out against sugar?

He and his VC partner are both YC-insiders. I don’t necessarily follow his tweets as much as his partner’s but his partner tweets are what I’d call classical hustle porn tweets that he spews all the time. And YC is almost certainly the epi-center of hustle porn.

code4tee• 7 years ago

The “hustle porn” is also quite frequently a coverup or distraction from general failure at other parts of life. Those that are super successful in perhaps their career but have no personal life, no partner, no kids, no real existence outside of their company tend to be quite boring people. These types keep promoting themselves and their “hard work” but it seems lost on them that others aren’t really all that impressed.

Those that are super impressive and truly accomplished are the ones that have successful careers but also have actual lives with families and a real life. Doing both well and not stressing out is a true accomplishment worth celebrating and promoting.

drugme• 7 years ago

"Always-on" can kind of sort of work out, for a couple of years -- provided all 3 of the following simple conditions are met:

(1) You're getting a decent base + health insurance

(2) The equity is in proportion to the sacrifice (this can be difficult to quantify; but in any case not a microscopic share of the pie); and

(3) You actually have some say in (and responsibility over) the outcomes.

(4) And of course you aren't throwing anyone under the bus in your family or personal life.

On of the reasons our industry is so toxic is that you're expected to be "always on" even though there's not even a pretense of (2) or (3) being met -- and quite often the numbers for condition (1) are sketchy, or far worse.

Alexis Ohanian speaks out against “always-on” work culture

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