Rate my startup: Feedlooks, a web-based RSS reader

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1451576

by arturadib • 16 years ago

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Designed this out of my own frustration with current web-based RSS readers:

As a blogger, I was wondering why I was spending my time working on the blog design if most feed readers would strip off the visuals anyway.

All I needed was a web app that would list new items since I last checked, and would show the actual web content in full visual glory once I clicked on an item. (Without opening a new tab).

Hence Feedlooks. The bet is that there is a chunk of the RSS reader market that feels a similar need.

I'm looking for ideas and suggestions on how to get traction, comments on the app itself, and possible business opportunities.

Thanks!

http://www.feedlooks.com

javery• 16 years ago

http://www.feedlooks.com - clickable

pclark• 16 years ago

the sign up link is too obscure

also, google reader integration?

arturadib15• 16 years ago

Hey, thanks for the feedback.

OK I gotta work on that signup link.

Currently Feedlooks can import your feeds from Google Reader. I don't know how they'd feel if I constantly pulled content from their servers though.

wonginator1221• 16 years ago

How about a live demo?

arturadib15• 16 years ago

That's a very good idea I somehow forgot about after a while.

Will probably implement soon. Thanks!

crux• 16 years ago

Well, as a blog reader, I rather like the absence of bloggers' visual glory when I read my feeds. I'm interested in articles, not in someone else's design skills. Especially since, in most readers, I can set my own CSS preferences and thus read feeds that are not only stripped off but then customized exactly how I like them.

arturadib15• 16 years ago

Hi crux,

At some point it boils down to personal preference, but here's a counterpoint from a reader's perspective:

When all of my 50+ feeds look identical, sometimes it is hard for me to identify whose blog I am reading based on its title alone--"this is an interesting article, but who's this JoeDoe guy again?". By seeing the actual website I can more quickly identify the guy. I guess in this case, "a web design is worth a thousand words".

I'm not saying Feedlooks is for everyone; it sure is for me, and hopefully for many other people.

Thanks for the honest feedback though!

arturadib15• 16 years ago

Another advantage is that you get to see user comments on blog entries.

mgkimsal• 16 years ago

I don't want to be all wishy-washy here, but possibly in a future version you might have the option to 'show full page' or 'just the naked version'. A quick toggle to switch back and forth would be handy.

davidedicillo• 16 years ago

I actually agree. I even went a step further, now I just look at my rss reader (Fever) and I instapaper what looks interesting to me.

sgt2• 16 years ago

I was thinking about the same idea the other day and now I'm very happy that someone actually implemented it. It looks pretty slick and the overall speed is fast. Good work.

Just one small detail I noticed is that when I signed up with an email address that contained a '+', it didn't autofill that on the login screen when I clicked on the redirect url I got on email.

arturadib15• 16 years ago

Thanks that's very kind! Will look into that login issue soon.

metageek2• 16 years ago

It looks like the problem is that the redirect to the login page doesn't URL-escape my email address. Since I used one with + in it, they got turned into spaces. (Bonus points for not rejecting +, though.)

sgt2• 16 years ago

Out of curiosity, what technologies are you using for Feedlooks?

arturadib15• 16 years ago

LAMP

conesus• 16 years ago

This is quite a good idea. I'm working on a very similar idea myself, except I use the feed's main page and link the feed stories to where they are on the main page.

My criticism is largely the same, but I want to echo it so it becomes that much louder. First, an instant demo is invaluable. It teaches the user immediately what they are getting into without the login/signup cost. Also, you should let the user in right on signup (logging them in so they don't have to login in immediately after they confirm). If they don't confirm in 24 hours, gently remind them, and then in a month of no use, delete the account.

Also, I wish organization of the feeds was easier so I could read the feeds that start with the letter 'Y' much quicker than having to load 50-some feeds first.

This could go far, so hats off to you. I know from experience that this isn't easy.

arturadib15• 16 years ago

Hi conesus, that's great feedback, thank you!

I hate I have to run out for a meeting now, but I'll get back to you in more detail asap.

Thanks again!

arturadib15• 16 years ago

Thanks for the kind feedback!

Yeah, live demo is definitely a common theme here; it's now in my to-do list.

I do have plans to add feed organization features. Meanwhile, to get to 'Y', you can click on "Collapse" to see only feed titles and quickly scroll down to 'Y'.

pavs• 16 years ago

Looks nice, the logo design could use some work.

zackola• 16 years ago

- Keyboard shortcuts or bust.

- Signup link too hidden. Man I hate most web service signups. if I try to log in and you don't have the email in your system, maybe you should just create an account for me and send me a verification w/ whatever password I entered in the verification email - or require that to not have my account deactivated shortly I must click on the activation link sent and set my password.

arturadib15• 16 years ago

Good idea. I guess signup was the most commented on issue so that's definitely a priority now.

Thanks!

metageek2• 16 years ago

I cannot use it at all. My minimum font size is set at 24 (weak eyes); you apparently hard-code the font size and the line spacing, and Firefox is overriding only the font size. The result is that I see only the top half of each line.

arturadib15• 16 years ago

Will definitely look into that! Thanks for pointing that out.

JangoSteve2• 16 years ago

Though my personal preference is for no layout in my feed reader, I actually do like the idea and I think there is definitely a market for it.

One small nitpick: the specific example you chose for the screenshot under the "Why" tab is a bad example. If I had to choose between a plain-text article and that hard-on-the-eyes-gray-text-on-bright-green-background, I'd definitely choose the plain-text hands down.

On a related note, if you do decide that you want to integrate a button that allows the user to view a plain-text stripped-down version of the article, I recently implemented similar functionality in LeadNuke and wrote an article about the "algorithm" (it's actually quite simple) I used to strip down the page. It's specifically written for Ruby, but you can skip to the "algorithm" part of the article: http://www.alfajango.com/blog/create-a-printable-format-for-...

arturadib15• 16 years ago

I guess if I decide to go with a plain-text option I guess I can simply show the content from the RSS feed itself.

As to the Why tab: Any takers for that real estate? I'd be happy to advertise a good-looking blog there. :)

JangoSteve2• 16 years ago

Oh yeah good point. In my app, you can manually bookmark links that aren't from feeds. Also I like allowing users to see the full article contents when the feed just had a one paragraph summary.

Feel free to use my blog, but I imagine you can find a much better looking blog from a designer somewhere.

sjs382• 16 years ago

I'd go with one of those blogazine-style posts. Dustin Curtis, Jason Santa Maria, etc.

TonyBalogna• 16 years ago

http://DailySongFix.com = good looking blog

AlexBlom• 16 years ago

My feedback on the signup process:

I'd be changing the Login box with the Signup box. You want to make it REALLY easy for people to join!

Users who come specifically to login will find the login button no matter where you go. Users considering registering may not look ("Oh, this is too hard to find, not to worry")

arturadib15• 16 years ago

Good idea, will try to make changes to reflect all comments about the signup link/page!

sfennell• 16 years ago

Ok, one huge grip - don't make me verify my email, that adds a whole huge step to the account creation process.

Also, If I click on a link in the blog, the feedlooks bar should go away, I dont want that hanging around - or at least open the link in another window, like greader.

Overall though, I really like the idea - really cool ,and nice implementation - I will try using this over greader for now :)

arturadib15• 16 years ago

So you prefer to click "back" to get to the feed list?

Hmm, that's tough. I really like having that toolbar there--I can pin an item, skip to the next unread, etc.

Agreed about the signup process. Clearly the issue most commented here!

rgrieselhuber• 16 years ago

I've been wanting something like this for a long time. One less thing I have to build. :) It's like an inverse Tumblr.

I'd love to try a demo where you just put in a feed URL (without requiring email / password) and it shows you to display it. Or let me create a password if I want one.

arturadib15• 16 years ago

Thanks! I got several live demo requests. It's now in my to-do list.

deno• 16 years ago

Sign Up link should be most visible item on your page. Actually you could offer Google OpenID/OAuth Hybrid connection and grab user's Google Reader data while you're at it.

I prefer Akregator but I'd like to ask where did you get the idea for such personal captions on buttons? (“I understand what is happening”, “I will check my email” etc.) Do you actually have some data as to whether it makes people read messages more carefully?

arturadib15• 16 years ago

Ah, those button captions :) I do not have any data, but I do know that I am an "OK"-button hunter. If I see one, I'm likely to click on it without thinking.

I think I got this idea from the SVN blog at 37signals, but I'm not sure.

Rate my startup: Feedlooks, a web-based RSS reader

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