Alleged Foxconn insiders leaked details about Apple’s forthcoming devices

https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/4/15736990/apple-alleged-foxconn-insider-details-iphone-8-siri-speaker-glasses

by nodesocket • 9 years ago

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singularity2001• 9 years ago

looks like a hoax to me

masklinn• 9 years ago

While possible, it's mod-verified[0] and IIRC at least the second time they've done this, the previous one being[1]

[0] https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/6ezhwm/iama_foxconn_...

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/572ds6/video_tip_of_...

sudhirj• 9 years ago

Sounds a little farfetched. These employees know they're completely burned in the industry if Apple / Foxconn finds out who they are, and they still send the Reddit mods verifying documents? That's career suicide.

Inconel4• 9 years ago

I believe the leakers stated that they are not current employees of Foxconn, perhaps they are former employees, but they have access to multiple sources and sell the information they obtain to market analysts.

gwern2• 9 years ago

Both the leakers and subreddit mods are just begging for some administrative subpoenas to Reddit to dump their accounts for industrial espionage or trade secret charges. Speaking from personal experience here, Reddit can't and won't defend your information.

sasas• 9 years ago

Speaking from personal experience here, Reddit can't and won't defend your information.

Could you elaborate on your experience?

i336_2• 9 years ago

From this subthread: https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/6ezhwm/iama_foxconn_...

> You are giving away evidence about you and your mates identities !
Apple knows about us already. We had a visit earlier today. I'm legal counsel, what we are doing is legal, however frowned upon.

I am really curious how that works out.

Could this also point to a fragmented Apple that wants to share (perhaps to refine last-minute details?) but can't due to embargoes?

slezyr• 9 years ago

That's career suicide.

That would be something new for Foxconn.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn_suicides

Inconel4• 9 years ago

I don't wish to make light of any suicides or potential worker mistreatment at Foxconn, but it's important to keep in mind that when the Foxconn suicide nets made the news there were 14 reported suicides that year. Foxconn has something around one million employees. It's possible that the number of suicides was under reported but it's important to keep in mind that China's suicide rate is somewhere around 22 per 100k residents and the US's hovers somewhere around 10-13 per 100k residents.

14 suicides for a company of Foxconn's size doesn't seem particularly unusual, except for maybe being below national average.

dilemma2• 9 years ago

This is a BS comparison. People do not usually kill themselves at work.

sctb• 9 years ago

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14486017 and marked it off-topic.

samsolomon• 9 years ago

If true, I'm a bit bummed that the full iMac redesign is coming in 2018 instead of at the end of this year. I have a 2011 MBA that is starting to show it's age. I was thinking a new iMac would be it's replacement.

Also, it would also be amazing for Apple to add Mag Safe connectors back to their laptops. Certainly, there must have been a sharp rise in destroyed laptops at coffee shops for them to backtrack?

snuxoll• 9 years ago

I'm quite happy with the current iMac myself, I just bought a refurbished 27" at the end of April and don't have many complaints. If there was one, it would be how ludicrously expensive SSD's are from Apple compared to the cost of standard NVME drives, I ended up deciding the fusion drive in the refurb model I bought was "good enough" since I didn't want to spend the extra money buying a new machine plus another $200 or so to upgrade to a 512GB SSD.

valuearb3• 9 years ago

I'm betting they always planned to bring it back. It's a unique product differentiator, and they probably only dropped it because of difficulties adapting it to USB-C quickly enough for the last launch.

joshstrange2• 9 years ago

I had no pressing need to upgrade to the new MacBook Pro and I'm glad I've waited but the reintroduction of the magsafe charger would be pretty awesome. As much as I want that I don't know if I can see Apple backtracking on that, but I'd love to be wrong. Also no USB-C on the new iPhone is slightly disappointing even if it does mean I don't have to buy all new cables.

Simulacra4• 9 years ago

Has Apple ever backtracked on something as significant as the MagSafe?

joshstrange2• 9 years ago

Nothing comes to mind, I think there is about as much chance of that happening as them bringing back the headphone jack...

akeck• 9 years ago

If anything, we would probably see some sort of Magsafe-model USB-C to magnetic connector dongle.

nfriedly• 9 years ago

Yea, I agree that magsafe would be nice to see again.

Also, I still get chuckles that the current crop of MacBooks have the exact two ports that everyone wants on current iPhone.

i336_2• 9 years ago

OK, I asked if Magsafe will come back in a relevant subthread: https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/6ezhwm/iama_foxconn_...

Assume my question hasn't been answered unless there's a comment underneath here saying it has. (I'm about to go to bed, anyone else is free to update.)

udev2• 9 years ago

So no progress on Mac Pro, which is weird, because we know Apple is working on it.

e40• 9 years ago

I thought the Mac Pro was made in the US, so why would Foxconn even know?

udev2• 9 years ago

I was talking about the cheese grater Mac Pro revamp that Apple seems to be working on. Not sure that one is made in US.

intoverflow2• 9 years ago

From the wording of the announcement it sounded like it was a project <3 months old at the time. They specifically said it wouldn't be this year too.

Honestly for well over a year now it felt like the Pro was officially canned and ATP podcast reported from an insider that literally no one was working on it as soon as Q4 2016.

My thinking is there was a change of direction internally and a decision the future of Apple still required the talent and community of pro users rather than just embracing the mainstream full on and hoping that pros will be happy with iPads.

nodesocket• 9 years ago

Just curious, but since when do HN mods get to change a post title without saying so? This was not the title I posted.

Alleged Foxconn insiders leaked details about Apple’s forthcoming devices

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