Atom 1.2

http://blog.atom.io/2015/11/12/atom-1-2.html

by rayshan • 11 years ago

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jonwot3• 11 years ago

I've been meaning to give atom a months worth of working with but am not sure if it's worth moving over to from emacs. I do like how simple its packaging system is. Any major complaints from users?

jolux5• 11 years ago

It's still unbelievably slow. That's why I still use Emacs and occasionally Sublime Text for things like HTML.

jonwot3• 11 years ago

That's a shame, it's really aesthetically pleasing. But beauty alone can't beat ol' reliable!

mchahn2• 11 years ago

It's still unbelievably slow

When was the last time you tried it? It is plenty fast for me now. Original load times were 7 to 10 secs and are now under 2 secs for me, with a zillion packages to load.

pfooti• 11 years ago

That's odd. I am replying here, although there are a number of atom-is-slow comments throughout the thread. I don't find it to be slow with normal-sized sourcefiles. By "normal", I mean less than, say 5kb of text per file. Big files I do avoid in atom, but they tend to be rare in my codebases.

I don't use a ton of plugins, just tag matchers, minimal, and linters. I do all my build tooling (gulp for js/web dev, mavensmate for salesforce, etc) outside of atom, so maybe that helps.

Of course, the only real benefit I feel over sublimetext is in plugins. Linter support in atom is (IMO) better than ST. For actual code editing, they're all similar enough once you learn key bindings and whatnot.

I will say: being proficient in vi means I can work on ARM devices (Chromebooks with crouton), because neither ST nor atom work on arm. Yet, from the atom perspective, or ever from the ST one, which is the other reason I like the atom project. Loftier, FOSS goals.

plexicle• 11 years ago

Just speed. Still can't keep up with the other major players.

I like that it's open source, but I couldn't bring myself to contribute because it's all Coffee. That's more of a personal gripe, though.

Scarbutt3• 11 years ago

First time I hear an emacs user saying so lightly that he wants to move to something else, how well do you know emacs?

jonwot3• 11 years ago

i've been only using emacs for about three years. Don't get me wrong it's the great. I'll never truly let go of it as i use it everyday just for org-mode itself. But i always wonder how other text editors are doing, especially an up and coming one like atom.

hollerith2• 11 years ago

I've used Emacs for the last 23 years. Although Emacs has some strong points, I'm looking to switch, maybe to Atom.

(It sounds a little like you think that the only reason everyone doesn't use Emacs is the steepness of the initial learning curve.)

thedz2• 11 years ago

Echoing others, I've been using emacs for close to 10 years now. I've been keeping a close eye on Atom because it's the firs time I've seen a editor start to gain popular appeal that can approach the customizability and power of Emacs.

The other thing holding it back is performance. It might be something that Atom can never be "good enough" at, but I have hopes, if only with increases in compute speed.

moonchrome2• 11 years ago

Plugins are very brittle and hard to read - courtesy of coffescript/javascript - constant 'undefined' error popups and the likes - given up on trying to fix/report as it seems to be a whack-a-mole just using it as a basic text editor and removed all fancy plugins.

Very slow search with large files, rendering performance not the best but tolerable.

On Windows it doesn't let me enter ']}' characters because of my keybord layout conflicting withing with shortcuts (can't tell if this is still the case it was in 1.0 - I haven't used Windows in a while)

I use it for editing python scripts/resource definition YAML files in my asset pipeline and since it mostly comes down to file organization having an actual tree view view where you can cut/paste files and visualize the structure with nice icons beats ASCII art from NERDtree. Also QtCreator project structure with CMake is immutable so I use it to move organize C++ source files as well. It works as a treeview + texteditor and it integrates with git - that's good enough for what I need.

clumsysmurf• 11 years ago

"courtesy of coffescript/javascript" ... I wonder if switching to TypeScript for most development would help.

ahoge• 11 years ago

Any major complaints from users?

AltGr is still broken. The problem has been known for almost 2 years and there are about a hundred duplicates.

https://github.com/atom/atom-keymap/issues/35

If you aren't using an US keyboard layout, this might be a problem.

kenrick95• 11 years ago

Atom 1.2 is just two weeks from 1.1 (released on October 29). That was fast :)

rhgraysonii3• 11 years ago

I dream of the day someone shows me a text editor I can be more efficient in than Vim. With a ~30 line .vimrc I can work on the vast majority of the machines on this planet without any trouble; the appeal of editors like Sublime and Atom simply baffle me.

For context, I was a sublime user until about 2 years ago, and prior to that I worked in Notepad++.

However, I rarely work outside of a terminal. So this definitely guarantees a clear bias.

Scarbutt3• 11 years ago

Maybe tell us what programming languages do you work with.

rhgraysonii3• 11 years ago

Elixir, Ruby, JS, and Python.

askafriend• 11 years ago

Have you tried doing iOS development? That would suck without XCode (even though XCode itself sucks)

sfredd• 11 years ago

Why doesn't anyone create a viable, open source XCode alternative? Are all the libraries proprietary?

rhgraysonii3• 11 years ago

The vast majority of my work has been in open source languages using open source tools. So my experience with xcode is very limited and I imagine your thoughts to be something that may change my tune if I were to be in that ecosystem.

jolux5• 11 years ago

Spacemacs (or even just evil mode) for Emacs. I was a Vim user too for about five years and then I discovered Spacemacs and eventually converted to Emacs keybinds and haven't looked back. The elegance of Emacs is just very hard to surpass.

issaria2• 11 years ago

+1 for Spacemacs, you don't have to discover all different mode for Emacs, just enable corresponding "layers".

cnp• 11 years ago

I use atom-vim as well as the full suite of extremely flexible key-bindings and I am FAR faster in Atom then I was in native vim. Not only that, but the plugin ecosystem is more suitable for my needs, more hackable, and more modern. As a JavaScript developer, Atom has totally recharged my workflow.

One thing that does need some love is tree-view; I sorely miss the full functionality of NERDTree (paging, text search, etc)

ngrilly2• 11 years ago

Why do you feel faster using Atom with atom-vim than native vim?

trevordev• 11 years ago

I really enjoy typescript and I really enjoy the cutting edge features. Atom editor is the only editor that has the typescript plugin that works with the latest features of typescript. I hate the performance of atom but it is worth the tooling.

riffraff• 11 years ago

how does it compare to visual studio code?[0] for TS development?

[0] https://code.visualstudio.com/

hokkos• 11 years ago

Does the typescript auto completion component of Atom the same as in VSCode ?

thedz2• 11 years ago

In contrast, it baffles me that some don't understand the draw—even if not personally appealing—of editors like Sublime or Atom.

And I say this as an emacs evil user.

farresito3• 11 years ago

Sublime and Atom might be the next best options after vim for people not willing to learn vim. I use vim, I really like it, but I understand a lot of people might not care too much about it, and both of the mentioned editors are very good.

Hominem2• 11 years ago

Another POV here, I moved from Visual Studio after using it for over 15 years. For me, Atom is fucking fast. Lack of UML diagramming, database designer and TFS integration is a blessing in disguise.

voltagex_• 11 years ago

I have a Lenovo X1 Carbon - no slouch by any measure, but Atom is noticibly slower to open documents and start up than Visual Studio 2015.

Hominem2• 11 years ago

I'm was still on 2013 and my install is almost 2 years old. VS seems to get slower over time. And this is without powertools or resharper. Maybe it is just me but Atom sure feels quicker.

aikah• 11 years ago

Atom is fucking fast

Speed is relative. Faster than what editor ?

jolux5• 11 years ago

Visual Studio?

freshyill• 11 years ago

I love Atom. I've been using it since the day it was announced. But I don't use it for the speed. It still chokes on huge files. When I need to open something big, I reach for Sublime, and it handles it with ease.

ngrilly2• 11 years ago

Why do you prefer Atom over Sublime Text (except when you need to open a big file)?

truncate• 11 years ago

I'm pretty impressed how fast Atom has evolved in every way, be it performance or plugin system (I was skeptical last year). Its pretty powerful no doubt, but what's really cool about Atom is how quickly you can get started with it. I recently started learning Haskell. Typically I live in Vim, but I was feeling lazy to set up all goodness, so I just randomly started Atom and installed Haskell plugin. And it was so quick and so nice! Auto-completion, linter, type hints all working out of the box. And if you don't like something, like in my case start auto-complete as soon as I type, you could simply disable it from settings.

I don't know if I will leave Vim for Atom, but its certainly a great tool. If some newbie asks my opinion on what editor/ide to use, I will be inclined to say Atom as its so easy to get started with.

PS> And seems like they finally fixed the hidpi issues with this release!

farresito3• 11 years ago

You could probably use vim inside atom through neovim and this project: https://github.com/carlosdcastillo/vim-mode

I haven't personally tried it yet, but something like this will certainly be a good option in the future.

shriek• 11 years ago

Doesn't give you the whole suite of vim keys but for average vim users this should be okay. Saying this from experience.

gct• 11 years ago

Hold on, let me just update my GPU driver so I can run my text editor

Atom 1.2

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