Apple Introduces iOS 8

http://www.apple.com/ios/ios8/

by J-H • 12 years ago

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J-H• 12 years ago

The new texting suggestions in QuickType are awesome (if it works as suggested).

Swiftkey already learns quite well. For example, I often type "Hey what's going on?" and it has now learned that if I type "Hey" it should suggest "what's" and so on, so in 4 taps I have the whole sentence.

What it doesn't have, is the context-aware switching. That is something really neat about the new keyboard. Switching context from a meeting being "postponed" to "boring" is great.

maaaats• 12 years ago

And the keyboard on Windows Phone is also really great, especially in WP8.1. So Apple needed to improve the keyboard, they were already far behind the competition.

keehun3• 12 years ago

It does. It sometimes blocks the main interface from updating (doesn't seem perfectly optimized or parallelized yet). It's also on an iPhone 4S which is the oldest iPhone they support.

gnopgnip• 12 years ago

The do not disturb sounds great. Does this mean the recipient or the sender sets it?

ciniglio• 12 years ago

Recipient I think

y14• 12 years ago

The mac integration for calls is great.

will_work4tears• 12 years ago

It does seem to have promise. I didn't catch all of the details, was there a demo? Was it able to say, switch a call over to your mac with the ability to do something like FaceTime?

k-mcgrady3• 12 years ago

They did a demo call with Dr. Dre. They didn't showing switching a call between devices. I did notice a video button on the call on the Mac suggesting you might be able to switch from audio to video (presumably FaceTime).

the_watcher8• 12 years ago

Yea, having to awkwardly move around to answer a call when I have my phone charging is one of those little things that I suspect we'll all be surprised by how often this new feature improves our life.

untog2• 12 years ago

Call/SMS integration is great. It's worth noting that Google had absolutely everything they needed to do this years ago, and just... didn't. Hangouts is still inferior to iMessage today. It's a real shame.

Edit: this extensibility stuff might be enough to tempt me back to Apple from Android, at last. Third party keyboards, too (I've gotten quite attached to the Android swiping stuff). Honestly, at this point, I'm not sure what keeps me on Android. I confidently predict that iOS Active Notification usage will be far higher than on Android, even though Android has had it for years.

dirkgently4• 12 years ago

this extensibility stuff might be enough to tempt me back to Apple from Android, at last.

I am not sure if you are serious or not.

untog2• 12 years ago

Why? The intends system of Android is amazing, and I use it heavily. It was absolutely a blocker for me switching to iOS.

georgemcbay2• 12 years ago

"It's worth noting that Google had absolutely everything they needed to do this years ago, and just... didn't."

This is so true and so sad. Google Voice, why are you so almost great and so neglected?

I have to say though that my disappointment in Google Voice is quickly being matched by my disappointment in Google Maps which actually was great but continually gets less so with each release.

mentat• 12 years ago

I have to agree with Maps issues as well. Latest release was the worst directions I've ever received electronically which is saying something...

bane2• 12 years ago

I would have agreed with you except I'm actually liking the very latest bump. Telling me which lanes to get into to make an exit? Brilliant. I think it's also taking traffic into account now.

the_watcher8• 12 years ago

Yea, what's going on with Maps? It used to almost always get me to the right place when I searched, now, half the time it tries to send me to Bangalore or across the country until I add a city parameter.

toyg• 12 years ago

Google Voice, why are you so almost great and so neglected?

Because it pisses off carriers (big telcos), and Android vendors (unlike Apple) really need carriers.

justinator2• 12 years ago

I used to be able to do this with my first color screen'd Sony/Erickson phone and OS X like, 10 years ago via Bluetooth. It was great to work with my Addressbook on the Mac, pick a contact and SMS/Call them. I could also use the phone as a remote control for iTunes, as well.

X-Istence• 12 years ago

I used to do this with my Sony Erricson phone as well in 10.2 and 10.3 from Address Book/iSync.

gurkendoktor• 12 years ago

Same here! SMS'ing from the 10.4 Dashboard was fantastic. I even had a second Nokia with a GPRS flatrate in my backpack and could use it as an occasional hotspot throughout the week, then charge it on the weekends.

Turning on the iOS hotspot from OS X 10.10 even works exactly like tethering via Bluetooth used to work, from the menu bar.

jfb• 12 years ago

Yeah, there was a little package called "Bluephone Elite", IIRC, that did this.

justinator2• 12 years ago

If I also remember correctly, I was able to use this same phone (first phone I had with a camera, I believe - T610?) to snap a shot, and then email it to an address that piped that to a Perl script. That Perl script, then posted the photo to a very simple blog-like app I had written (also in Perl). I handed the site in as an art project I did, after a week road trip.

And then, Instagram happened. Seemed novel at the time - something I made 3 hours before hittin' the road.

bane2• 12 years ago

Google's ability to "release and stagnate" is one of the hallmarks of the company's rather prolific product output. I honestly don't know how products are run at Google, but from the outside it seems that most of them are built and then just kicked off the back of a truck into a waiting crowd. If you hear any news later about a product it seems like it's news about a shutdown.

TillE• 12 years ago

Yeah, it's really weird to see this pattern repeat again and again. Google has a few flagship products that get proper attention, but everything else...I just don't understand how it even gets developed in the first place, if they don't have a small team to continue working on it post-release.

yaeger• 12 years ago

It sounds like the real "nerdy" way to do things. Start with an exiting product, everybody is psyched cause it is new and everyone is giving 100%. First version is out and now, somehow the hype and enthusiasm is gone cause it is no long the "new thing". Refining it seems rather tedious and boring compared to just starting with a new and exciting product.

God knows I suffer from that. The beginning of something new is always awesome but as time progresses and the "new" feeling vanishes I find it harder and harder to keep working on it.

mirsadm2• 12 years ago

At this point both devices do the core functionality just as well as each other (email, browsing and maps). Android still has better "Google" integration which is important for me. Also I have gotten use to paying $350 for a Nexus device + $18/mo for my plan. I have no intention of ever buying another $800+ device or spending upwards of $100/mo for something which is about the same experience as I have now.

italophil• 12 years ago

What is you $18/month plan? I am still looking for a reasonable one in the US.

nextweek22• 12 years ago

You are probably Generation X. They were less susceptible to advertising.

People that pay more for a similar product are not just buying the product, they are also buying style and the ability to set themselves apart from their peers.

donniezazen• 12 years ago

You are right. Google has completely fractured message on Android. You have to install 10 different messengers to be able to talk to different factions of people. Also since they want to push Google Hangouts' online feature their messaging app is quite confusing.

I stick to Anroid for innovations like LastPass's 'fill into applications', link browser, Pocket, etc. They are so tightly integrated with Android that it is very pleasurable to use.

gotschi• 12 years ago

I love Notification Center with its extensions! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umZCjMduuUY

before 8 I always disabled it because I litterally had no use for it...

sz4kerto2• 12 years ago

There are two big things here:

Health: it's stepping on the toes of many partners, but might be groundbreaking. It's extremely hard to crack healtcare, it's very closed, defensive system of people and bureaucracy, Apple might just have the power to do it.

Extensibility: intents are basically _the_ reason Android can work so much better in many cases than iOS. I hope MS will bring it to WP very soon.

daigoba662• 12 years ago

Per Microsoft: "App contracts and extensions" have existed since day one: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/hh46490...

Per Healthcare: that is a really exciting new feature and there is a LOT of potential here. But I wonder how successful it can actually be in the grand scheme of things. I.e. not everyone can have or wants an iPhone.

Edit, expanding a bit:

On the flip side, I am huge advocate for personal health records (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_health_record), but no one really knows about them and no really uses them because they don't work with your doctor. I don't think Apple has even remotely come close to solving the overall problem of integration and usefulness, but maybe it will get more people interested and thinking about the concept of a personal health record.

sz4kerto2• 12 years ago

You're right, app contracts have been there since ages, just not really used as much as they are on Android.

Re. Health: it can fly in the US, and if it does, then they've got the momentum to port the stuff to other mobile OSes. Health itself is such a big industry that they might not want/need to use it just as a promoter for their devices.

threeseed3• 12 years ago

Expect health devices to be the new hot space for the next few years.

Yes Apple will have an iWatch but they would be more than happy having hundreds of dirt cheap equivalents that integrate seamlessly with the iPhone.

bztzt• 12 years ago

since day one of Windows 8 on tablet/PC, but it wasn't brought to the phone until 8.1.

chimeracoder• 12 years ago

It's extremely hard to crack healtcare, it's very closed, defensive system of people and bureaucracy, Apple might just have the power to do it.

Care delivery is also an industry in which Apple has virtually zero market share - it's Microsoft through and through. Inpatient and outpatient EHRs all target Windows, hospital IT all runs Windows Server, and some of the more "forward-thinking" hospitals are even eyeing Windows tablets (I kid you not).

Potentially huge upside for them (which is obviously why they want to do it), but it's very difficult to penetrate, and they have almost no foothold there so far.

daigoba662• 12 years ago

Inpatient and outpatient EHRs all target Windows

I believe this is primarily because the development environment is really simple for this class of software. Platforms such as .NET, COM, MFC and VB have been around a long time and it's easy to find programmers. It also doesn't hurt that the desktops running Windows are incredibly inexpensive and easy to procure and run Microsoft Windows.

But targeting the end users of healthcare (e.g. patients)... that's something else entirely which only recently has started to have any traction.

ashearer• 12 years ago

While Microsoft has a large footprint in healthcare IT (and so do mainframes), SaaS is huge and becoming even more important, and there the server OS doesn't matter much to the customer.

That said, what Apple announced was patient data collection support in the client OS. App developers take care of shipping it to physicians and hospitals. Apple isn't taking the patient's information the last mile to physicians themselves.

Disclosure: I'm a co-founder of a startup dedicated to improving mobile patient and physician communication (Care Thread, http://www.carethread.com). We already integrate with hospital and doctor's office workflows, and we've been looking forward to the introduction of this feature in order to collect relevant patient data.

k-mcgrady3• 12 years ago

Yeh, I loved the health demo they did showing the Mayo Clinic app. Problem is that unless my local doctor integrates with it I'm never going to get to use most of this stuff. I think it's particularly going to be a problem outside the US where there are public systems. We might start missing out on these kinds of innovations and it's the sort of thing that would tempt me to go private (not the entire system, just personally).

Edit: spelling

andrewmunsell• 12 years ago

Well, the same issue presented itself with Passbook and airline tickets, for example. I regularly fly Southwest and Alaska, and Southwest still doesn't have Passbook integration. Passbook was fantastic when I was flying American and Delta, but it just isn't great enough to get me to switch airlines.

When (not if) this happens with HealthKit/Health, it'll be slightly disappointing to see these kinds of integrations from behind a glass window. At least some aspects of HealthKit are already being integrated with major fitness companies (namely, Nike), so not everyone will miss the boat entirely.

jordan0day2• 12 years ago

I'm never going to get to sue most of this stuff

tort reform freudian slip?

robszumski• 12 years ago

This strategy is classic apple. Consumer-based marketshare land grab on non-traditional medical devices like Fitbits et al. If popular enough, actual medical devices will start to integrate and grow marketshare. The beauty is, consumers get immediate benefit and will continue to do so even if the rest of the platform (actual medical devices) doesn't take off.

arrrg• 12 years ago

Love that I will be able to hook my Withings scale up. Best tool to aid weight loss. But their app sucks. (They showed some other Withings products during the Keynote, so I assume they are in.)

sigzero• 12 years ago

You can finally leave group MMS! That is awesome.

RandallBrown• 12 years ago

Can you leave group MMS or just group iMessages?

keehun3• 12 years ago

I think all those features mentioned like attachments and sharing location and leaving/adding people to a conversation is a strictly-iMessage featureset. iOS Messages app doesn't even work well with Android phones in group texts. They way they package up the text is totally different.

eertami• 12 years ago

I don't have an iPhone, but I just can't understand why the keyboard cannot be lowercase when you're writing in lowercase. I just don't understand the motivation.

gecko• 12 years ago

The original reason for that was simply because they hadn't thought of that. The ongoing nominal reason was that it was a continuing nod to skeuomorphism. But given Jobs' passing, and the otherwise massive ditching of skeuomorphism since then, I do not begin to understand myself why that's the still the case. I'll hope that iOS 8 might introduce that mode as we get closer to shipping.

mason55• 12 years ago

With third-party keyboards now available I imagine that it will be doable

omnibrain2• 12 years ago

And I don't understand why they can't cram the punctation marks (at least full stop and comma) on it. And I have an iPhone...

the_watcher8• 12 years ago

I don't understand why every single keyboard on mobile doesn't have the .COM button. It's basically become as ubiquitous as any punctuation mark given how often emails are typed.

Cenk• 12 years ago

Typing two spaces turns into a full stop and a space.

groovylick• 12 years ago

Long tap for numbers and punctuation, ala android, is always annoying missing when using the iPad keyboard. Its so simple, plus saves so much time and mental processing hunting through the extra keyboard states.

Geee• 12 years ago

Well, now it supports third-party keyboards so it can have anything.

snowwrestler• 12 years ago

I'm glad it doesn't. WebOS does this, and I find it jarring to have the entire keyboard twitch every time I hit the shift key. I much prefer Apple's approach.

ZanyProgrammer• 12 years ago

I was really hoping for split screen multitasking (which Windows 8 on tablets does a good job of). I heard it was possible, but was having problems getting it out the door in time. I really hope it comes out in the final version of iOS 8, because that's the one thing that would tempt be to get a Surface over the next iteration of the iPad.

pandatigox• 12 years ago

I think there's a jailbreak thing for that

mikeash8• 12 years ago

While jailbreak hacks are really cool, you can't really base any long-term decisions (like hardware purchases) around them, because jailbreaks are so unpredictable. It's a crapshoot as to whether any given OS version will have a jailbreak, and who knows how long it will take. Even if you wait for the jailbreak to be released, there's no real guarantee you can keep it. The next OS release will probably break it, and even if you refrain from upgrading, it's likely that you'll eventually be forced to upgrade due to a hardware failure, OS corruption, inadvertent button press, massive widespread security hole, etc. And good ol' Apple doesn't let you install older OSes after new versions come out, even on hardware that supports them.

Jordan15• 12 years ago

Sounds minor, but I would have loved to have been able to change the SMS screen so I could have a black background instead of a white one. Is it that hard to do?

scrumper• 12 years ago

I set up the accessibility feature called Invert Colors and assign it to a triple tap on the home button. That works great for things like Mail and Messages, especially first thing in the morning when my eyes are tired and I don't want my retinas seared by a crisp white screen.

yalogin• 12 years ago

The extensions for apps look very promising. I don't think Android intents provide this kind of deep integration between apps. But I would wait for some one to confirm that part.

etherealG• 12 years ago

i can confirm that intents are this deeply integrated in android. more so because they are custom, any app can fire or register an intent, so they don't need to be something baked into the OS from the start.

i do like the ideas for extensions apple presented, but they all seem to specific. the android intents i use day to day are way past this.

pmelendez• 12 years ago

"Plus, it also knows who you’re talking to, which is crazy. By knowing who you’re talking to, it will send up predictions that are right for the type of conversation you have with that particular person."

This is a bit scary... This means that Apple not only knows who I talk to but now actually maintain an index on how I talk with everyone. 1984 is getting closer and closer.

taiki• 12 years ago

I'm guessing it's going to do all this stuff on the device, and not done in the cloud.

g5pw• 12 years ago

Well, they said that data will reside on your device only (no default internet access for custom keyboards, too).

mikeash8• 12 years ago

Did you not previously notice that iMessage keeps a history of your conversations, or what?

FPSDavid• 12 years ago

I have to say, I'm pretty impressed with the amount of stuff they've packed into iOS 8. Looks like it'll be more than enough to easily rip me away from jailbroken iOS 7.

the_watcher8• 12 years ago

HealthKit and HomeKit are both really exciting (probably going to look at smartlocks now in particular). However, I'm easily most excited about being able to leave a group text.

Osmium• 12 years ago

So so happy to see the SceneKit API make it to iOS. Even though 'minor' compared to some of the other announcements, it was the number one thing I was looking for in today's keynote, and it was nice to see it featured. Can't wait to start using it.

ja27• 12 years ago

That's the most useful thing I saw for my current development.

The integration, widgets, etc. will open up a lot of new possibilities too.

I'm not too excited about Swift but it looks like it could speed up the code, compile, load, test cycle.

dang• 12 years ago

We changed the url for this story from http://techcrunch.com/2014/06/02/apple-introduces-ios-8. If we pick the wrong url, happy to change it again, so let us know. The goal is to have one discussion about each significant announcement, and have the best url for each.

jrochkind1• 12 years ago

I like the techcrunch url better, thanks for including it in the comment at least.

A third-party editorial review is much more useful to me than a marketting brochure.

jwcrux• 12 years ago

I'm personally excited about the possibility of creating an "Emergency Card" (http://www.apple.com/ios/ios8/health/) that's accessible from the lock screen.

Currently, I use a screen-shotted contact screen as my wallpaper for my ICE contact - just in case the worst were to happen. This will let me put more information, and might even let me have a wallpaper again!

cheeseprocedure• 12 years ago

Wouldn't it be more sensible to just carry that information in hard copy?

If you're hit by a car and your phone is smashed...

unphasable• 12 years ago

Why not both?

Cthulhu_2• 12 years ago

On the one side, yes; on the other, I doubt people will look at your phone in case of emergency. That is, at the moment - I guess it's quite possible this feature will change that. But that's a generation thing. Still best to have one of those medical bracelets with your blood type and allergies and the like.

jevinskie• 12 years ago

Wow, real dynamic linking. Xcode even let me do so when targeting 7.1. Does anyone know if you will be able to submit apps to the AppStore that use dynamic frameworks while still deploying to < iOS 8?

Istof• 12 years ago

I am surprised that we see more then one submission about iOS 8 on this site (if you take into account the curation)

espitia• 12 years ago

Really, what does android have on ios that mainstream user would want?

jordan0day2• 12 years ago

The family sharing looks like a great idea that is way overdue. Hopefully it works as easily as the marketing material indicates.

RivieraKid• 12 years ago

"Huge for developers. Massive for everyone else."

"Completely new. Completely Mac."

I find meaningless slogans like these really disgusting and annoying. And it's not just Apple, every second startup does this.

hsod• 12 years ago

annoying I could understand but "really disgusting"? what is it that bothers you so much?

prawn3• 12 years ago

Disgust includes a "feeling of strong disapproval". I didn't physically throw up reading them, but I did read out a couple aloud in the office and scoffed. They're so smug and grandiose that it's very off-putting and I wish they'd just let the product speak for itself. (I use an iPhone, iPad and MBP.)

tvon• 12 years ago

I don't like it either, but that kind talk that has been around for as long as people have had something to sell.

mikeash8• 12 years ago

Slogans and mottos and such have a long history (to the extent that a lot of them are written in Latin because the practice was common when Latin was a living language) and rarely say much concrete.

AndrewKemendo2• 12 years ago

The fact that it is so widely used should tell you that it is effective.

Here is a small primer on the psychology of slogans: http://www.adslogans.co.uk/ww/prvwis11.html

dfc2• 12 years ago

Did you really link to material on an ad company's website in order to provide evidence that advertisements are effective? Would you expect anything other than "ads are useful and effective" from an ad company?

More importantly when OP said the slogans were annoying/disgusting, it was a statement of OP's personal opinion. OP never said in general the public finds these slogans disgusting/annoying.

nachteilig• 12 years ago

It wasn't made clear in the keynote and the page doesn't mention it--I hope this includes sharing contacts with "Family Sharing". That'll be huge for helping my older family members keep a coherent address book.

d1cd• 12 years ago

The attention to deal is mind boggling. If you missed the presentation, they said how many time they spent just trying to design a proper trash can.

bitsoda• 12 years ago

Apple's iOS support for older products has been stellar, though I'm betting iOS 8 will be the last update the iPad mini, iPad 2, and iPhone 4S receive -- they will have had a good run of four years (except for mini) by the time iOS 9 is released.

slipshod• 12 years ago

Totally on a tangent here, but I find myself disappointed, again.

I'm a long time hobbyist programmer, got my start back in the days of Apple IIe, got my first Mac in 1984...and I'm still not switching back to iPhone until I can write my own software and run it on my own phone without paying Apple for the privilege.

I'm waiting for two simple words: "Unknown sources". Guess I have to wait some more. Not sure how low Apple's market share will have to go before they start allowing it.

Can't say I love programming for Android, Java just doesn't feel right to me, but I'm sticking with it as long as I can write my own software, run it on my phone or tablet, share it with others, even sell it without Google's permission.

Terretta• 12 years ago

I think you missed that the App Store is an iPhone afterthought -- the original, still supported, intent was to support HTML5 apps installed to your home screen.

You can write your own software, run it on any iOS device, share it with others, even sell it without anyone's permission.

Here is a PacMan style game, for example:

http://mrgan.tumblr.com/post/257187093/pie-guy

If that's not "hobbyist" friendly, I don't know what is.

mikeash8• 12 years ago

It's an awful way to program. You don't get a choice of languages. There's no debugger. There isn't even an easily accessible console log to print to. It's like trying to assemble a watch, in the dark, while wearing mittens. You can do it, but it's not terribly fun.

There's a reason that there was a massive developer outcry at the "sweet solution" of HTML5 apps, causing Apple to release a native SDK instead.

samuelb• 12 years ago

Download iOS 8 for every device. (I'm downloading at 4MB/s) http://i.trackr.fr/tutoriel-telecharger-et-installer-ios-80-...

moyaRD• 12 years ago

Impress by All the announcements for developer in the WWDC. But taking the perspective of a enduser, there are key features i was hopping to get in iOS 8 that i didn't:

-Spotlight Integration For third Party Apps.

-Multi-User Support Or Guest Mode

-iMessage For Android

-App Trials

-Fixing The Music App ( Artis-Album View is broken)

-Third Party Default Apps

culturestate• 12 years ago

Can you expand a bit on what you mean by "third-party default apps?" I'm not sure I know any users who are particularly vexed that Apple doesn't allow carriers to load up their devices with crapware.

anonymfus• 12 years ago

Probably it was about ability of third party apps to register itself as default handlers of protocols, mime types and file extensions.

samirmenon• 12 years ago

This was interesting:

"Touch ID- For the first time, you’ll have the option of using Touch ID to sign in to third-party apps — there’s no need to enter a password. Your fingerprint data is protected and is never accessed by iOS or other apps."

Will this be used significantly by developers?

clarky073• 12 years ago

yes, i think so. Any app that has a password on it now will likely "upgrade" to this. Prime examples being finance apps.

rimantas• 12 years ago

Yes.

Cthulhu_2• 12 years ago

It depends. For secure applications? I doubt it; fingerprints is identification, not authorization. Bank apps and the like won't consider it secure enough.

dpcan2• 12 years ago

Still no user accounts on iPad. The only thing I want, and 8 versions in, it's still not there. Why I can't create a login for my kids on my iPad that hides my mail, calendar, certain games, etc? I don't understand why this isn't possible.

duncan_bayne3• 12 years ago

Because iOS devices are single-user by design. Think of the amount of cruft you could cut from your average desktop OS if you didn't have to support multiple users.

(I assume that, being UNIX under the hood, there actually are multiple users on an iOS device, for security. But these would presumably be invisible to the user, and not usable as login accounts).

skeletonjelly2• 12 years ago

That's some circular logic right there. You can't create a login because they're single user by design?

mikeash8• 12 years ago

What cruft?

Have a button somewhere that lets you switch to a different user. When you switch, you enter that other user's PIN or password. Then you see their apps, have their data, etc. When you switch back, you see your apps, have your data, etc.

It doesn't have to be very complicated. Even on a Mac, the "cruft" amounts to my name sitting in the menu bar, and having to choose who to log in as before I put in my password.

wan23• 12 years ago

They announced new family features today that imply that they think each family member should have his/her own device.

keehun3• 12 years ago

It sure seems like it. In addition, the way Apple is starting to build out parental controls per app, it seems like they don't intend on having multiple user accounts on each device in the near future.

dpcan2• 12 years ago

Like I'm going to get my 5 year old an iPad. Not happening.

I let him use mine, and when he logs in, I want him to see a few educational apps... and that's it.

When we're at functions, we see parents let their kids use their iPads all the time, and they are always checking in to see if they've opened their email, or certain games, etc.

Maybe just a "Kids" login. It has NOTHING but a few apps of choice show up. Doesn't have to be a full user-account system, just a pseudo login that hides almost everything.

prawn3• 12 years ago

Especially in an era with Touch ID. My kid should unlock it and see their apps and not go about accidentally deleting mine. I should unlock and have access to mine, private email and so on.

Of course, with the new family features, they want you to have a device each rather than share. Wasteful but drives up their earnings.

robmcm2• 12 years ago

One problem would be disk space, I use 90% of my space so adding another user would be a real issue.

Perhaps a guest mode would be better, access to all the apps already there, but wipes when they log out.

ksk• 12 years ago

I have read through the entire text on that page and I still have not found the answer to the question "What makes iOS 8 the world’s most advanced mobile operating system?".

MasterScrat2• 12 years ago

Mobile Safari now has WebGL enabled by default. How the hell isn't that bigger news?!

Look eg here to get an idea of what it means for webapp: http://www.photonstorm.com/html5/a-first-look-at-what-ios8-m...

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exodust• 12 years ago

"Coming This Fall"

Let me get my US-centric conversion calculator out... Fall > Autumn, carry the one, add 2, and oh look it's "coming this Spring".

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