Confess HN: Share your Immoral Hacks, Codes or Tweaks

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by dryicerx • 17 years ago

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You know you weren't suppose to do it. It was a immoral and sinful hack or tweak, but you did it anyways. A goto? A linked list of function pointers? Even committed it? What nasty hacks have you do lately?

dryicerx• 17 years ago

The cleaner script was written in python working along side the C fastcgi app running atop Apache. I made the C fcgid app spawn the python script as a child. :(

noonespecial• 17 years ago

I used a bash script to query a mySQL database because we weren't allowed to use "unapproved" libraries and the last time I tried to get permission to use a CPAN module, it took 8 weeks.

I am ashamed.

cperciva• 17 years ago

I used blocking disk I/O from a theoretically non-blocking event loop.

Herring• 17 years ago

Getting into the neighbor's WEP. There wasn't even much to it in the end. My desktop didn't have a wireless card so I had to pipe the connection from a half dead laptop I had lying around.

crabl• 17 years ago

Nice try, FBI.

bkudria2• 17 years ago

http://gist.github.com/159121

I'm so sorry.

csomar• 17 years ago

I used a boot to download twitter following pages because it was not allowed to a "non browser" and "non logged user"; it's so bad and some kind of spamming, but i did it any way! :'( :'(

garply• 17 years ago

Gotos aren't necessarily bad - for example when you have a large amount of nested loops and need to break out of a certain number of them.

redcap• 17 years ago

Also good for exception/error handling for languages that don't have that capability built in.

E.g. the SQL script I've been working on today has a number of gotos in it.

jrockway5• 17 years ago

What you really want are continuations.

jrockway5• 17 years ago

What you really want are continuations.

arketyp2• 17 years ago

Pardon my presumed ignorance, but how is that?

Hexstream• 17 years ago

Overkill. Something really simple like Common Lisp's block/return-from would do...

nothingmuch• 17 years ago

this is solved ore cleanly with escape continuation/exceptions.

Perl also provides 'last LABEL', which is handy (lets you break out of any level of nesting).

I guess in a language like C where you can have neither and function calls are slow so the 'return' escape continuation is also unusable there is a reason to use goto for this.

arketyp2• 17 years ago

In C/C++ I have longed for a parametrized break statement with value indicating number of nested loops to break at once. I'm sure this goes against some kind of lambda calculus CS ethos though.

clistctrl• 17 years ago

I find i can write almost anything never having to use more than two loops.

dfranke• 17 years ago

I wanted to adapt someone's command-line-based program into a library, but it wasn't designed as such. The program was strewn with calls to exit(), and on encountering one of these I would just want to return to the function that called into the library rather than exiting the whole program. So I did a setjmp() prior to calling into it, and used the preprocessor to turn exit() into longjmp().

tome• 17 years ago

I don't get it. Why not just remove the exit() and have the function return to where it was called, as standard?

parenthesis• 17 years ago

Because, presumably, the program wasn't written as one big main() function, and at least one of the exit()s wasn't in main() — hence the use of longjmp() to jump out of all the layers of function calls back to the caller of the `library'.

prodigal_erik• 17 years ago

A year ago I wrote a half-assed map/reduce in PHP. I partitioned a day's worth of logs across hundreds of gzipped CSV files by key hash, so I could run four reducers (the box has four cores) and each could suck a partition into 1/4 of physical memory.

After about six months of pathological random access (and what I assume to be epic fragmentation), the disk failed. I hope to migrate to our shiny new Hadoop cluster while the replacement disk lasts.

nostrademons• 17 years ago

Damnit, most of my best hacks could be considered proprietary, though I seriously doubt any of the companies involved would care. One that I can share:

I architected a game-creation platform so that all the game runtime code was both legal Flash and legal JavaScript, such that the same code could be inserted verbatim in both the JavaScript editor and the Flash compiled version.

jacquesm6• 17 years ago

That's a neat one!

mixmax• 17 years ago

Well, here's one that, erhm a friend of mine, did.

dating has moved online, and the key to getting laid is basically to get as many contacts going as you can. It's like a funnel: The more you put in at the top the more comes out at the bottom. The problem of course is that all that initial contact and writing back and forth with potential subjects is somewhat timeconsuming.

Enter the magic of webscraping and hacking.

It's not hard to make a program that will send a standard message to a chosen group of profiles on a dating site based on search criteria. It's not hard to make an interface that let's you do the initial round of communication with the people that respond in an interface that's somewhat more optimised for communicating with a lot of users at the same time. Once you get past the first three or four messages it's time to move on to the more personal aspects of communication. It saves a lot of time, and you only spend time on girls that have actually shown some interest.

tezza4• 17 years ago

Some of my Israeli mates here in London tore through the JDate website selection.

They would have debriefings on successful strategies and accuracy of photo-to-reality. They took turns and had harsh debates about who was first with the hottest ones.

They analysed which girls knew each other so that they could keep disjoint social scenes going at the one time.

It was amazing how many they got through.

They eventually fucked themselves out (and JDate too). They're married now, to a man.

evilneanderthal• 17 years ago

All of them married to the same man?

khafra2• 17 years ago

Sounds marketable, especially if you include a markov chain to grab variables off the scraped page and insert them into your email (ie, "I love #{favorite_band} too!").

chadaustin• 17 years ago

I used ctypes to change the base class of Python's GeneratorExit from Exception to BaseException because the official patch didn't make it in until 2.6.

import __builtin__, ctypes

class ImvuGeneratorExit(BaseException): pass

__builtins__['GeneratorExit'] = ImvuGeneratorExit

__builtin__.GeneratorExit = ImvuGeneratorExit

ctypes.c_void_p.in_dll(ctypes.pythonapi, 'PyExc_GeneratorExit').value = id(ImvuGeneratorExit)

jacquesm6• 17 years ago

Using a negative index on an array in order to get around a signed 16 bit limitation. Just stuck another blank array of the same size in front of it in the memory map and kept going.

For all I know that code is still running :)

It was quite hard to convince the compiler that I wanted to keep the never referenced/read array.

Stupid mainframes and their limits...

In the 386 days you could get a separate co-processor, the 387 for float work (or a weitek if you had the money). The clock line between the two of them was shared but I found out that you could disconnect the clock pin of the 387 and connect it to its own oscillator to overclock it. That way even if the rest of the board could not be overclocked at least the float processor was. By carefully interleaving float and co processor opcodes you could then run a lot faster than you would have been able to otherwise.

khafra2• 17 years ago

I'd love to see a full narrative on #2, that sounds front-page-post worthy. I can't even imagine asynchronously overclocking part of a CPU and still being able to boot the normal OS.

jacquesm6• 17 years ago

The reason I did it was because I'd been asked by an Amsterdam cultural center (the meervaart) to show the people living near it during a presentation how the situation would change upon expanding the meervaart.

The director (Han Hogeland) had asked me to do the presentation in exchange for - no laughing please - an old French car that I'd wanted to buy of him (Citroen DS).

This made me very motivated to make it work, only my 16 Mhz 386/387 combo really wasn't fast enough to make it work and I didn't have enough dough for a weitek.

So, from desperation this little hack was born. After I found out that it worked (much to my surprise, actually, testing on 20 MHz) I went to a friend who had a computer store and went through several trays of 387's before finding one that would still run at 40 Mhz, and with a large cooling element attached it even stayed reasonably cool (no fan).

The hardest part really was to cut the line on the mb without damage to other lines (this was a multi layer board), eventually I traced the line to a so called 'via' where I could scratch out the connection topside and use the remains of the via to connect the xtal oscillator (in a socket so I could try various frequencies).

The whole thing worked pretty good even if it looked absolutely terrible (imagine an ic socket piggy backed on top of a ttl IC for power and ground, then a wire running to a via next to a severed trace).

It's a pity I didn't make any pictures of the whole thing, I do still have the aerial photographs we bought of the cartographic institution that were digitized to get the layout in to the software, then extrusion by estimated building height created a fairly realistic view of the area.

The shading was quite primitive, framerate about 2-3 frames / second depending on the amount of stuff in the field of view. The graphics board was a 3x5 bits 512x512 pixels affair whose name escapes me atm.

And I got the car :)

tezza4• 17 years ago

...:: Hacking World Cup Tickets for Germany 06 ::...

Australia was a late qualifier for the tournament. The ticket submission was via email. Tickets were allocated on a first email received basis after 09:00. There was a countdown webpage which advertised the time.

--- Preparation

* I telneted to port 25 of the destination and saw via EHLO that the mail server clock was 1 minute faster than advertised on the webpage, giving a start time advantage

* I pre crafted the SMTP message into a text file. This had the sending time as 09:00:01

* Before the day I checked out how long the mail server would keep open any connections without any input (10 minutes)

---

Cometh the day:

* I opened up several telnet sessions to port 25 , 10 minutes before.

* when the time came, I did several EHLO messages to check my session was alive

* I cut'n'pasted my SMTP message into the server

* I closed all my connections (other people were bouncing at this point as the server connection pool was exhausted)

---

I got my tickets.

jrockway5• 17 years ago

Brilliant.

huhtenberg• 17 years ago

> the server connection pool was exhausted

Why ? Did you TCP-flooded SMTP server after you connected ?

Have you considered that it might be very simple to track you down since you'd be one of few people who got the tickets that day through this channel ?

tezza4• 17 years ago

The flood was of all of the other Oz applicants hitting SEND on their email clients. That was why I allocated myself two channels before. There were many more than 2 channels available.

I could have DDOSed the server to ensure only I got tickets, but that sounds like an ugly thing to do.

mahmud3• 17 years ago

I am writing PHP in Common Lisp, and my codebase is litered with the following:

  (defun make-record (&rest args) ; insert &allow-other-keys ;-)
    (let ((*db-auto-sync* t))
          (object (make-instance 'record args)))
       (when object
         (update-records-from-instance object))))

Both the LET binding of db-auto-sync and the update-records call do the EXACT same thing. However, due to weirdness I don't grok quite yet, the calls to the db driver get in only half the time, even with query caching disabled.

That's for record insertion.

For record update, I have something far more sinster. Every accessor has an :after method with explicit SQL inside. Allow me to explain this: Imagine if you had to write a function that does something as a side-effect everytime an assignment is made! E.g. I have a macro that generates explicit slot serializer for ever accessor; I managed this by wrapping defclass twice and now I program in a weird, session-oriented php-like dialect that's just too fucking brittle.

We will go over it after our first demo :-P

[Edit:

I wrote the following database agnostic routines and I deal with the db strictly through them.

LIST-OBJECTS type

LIST-OBJECTS-WHERE type slot value

FIND-OBJECT type slot value

FIND-OBJECT-WHERE type slot value

UPDATE-OBJECT-WHERE type slot value new-value

DELETE-OBJECT-WHERE type slot value

type is both a Lisp class and SQL table name. Slot and value are used in WHERE clauses, e.g. (select [*] type :where [= slot value])

]

apgwoz• 17 years ago

I've always wanted to do sort of the opposite... That is to say, I've always wanted to compile Scheme to PHP. I make the claim that PHP is the web's assembly language. Or, at least it's portable assembly language.

jrockway5• 17 years ago

Yeah, "apt-get install php" is much easier to type than "apt-get install sbcl perl ghc python ruby ..."... (The other langauges also all run faster, use less memory, and have more features.)

(And no, you should not compile your app into your frontend webserver. Use FastCGI or a reverse proxy!)

jacquesm6• 17 years ago

You need varnish!

mahmud3• 17 years ago

Javascript is the web's assembly language. PHP is the web's BASIC, down to its distribution method. BASIC was typed down from magazines and tutorials, PHP is google, cut and pasted.

mahmud3• 17 years ago

UPDATE!

I hope no one was misled by the above false alarm; It seems like I have perfected a problem-solving technique known as "debugging through public embarassment". I just seem to catch agonizing problems the moment I write about them online or tell someone about them.

CLSQL:UPDATE-RECORDS-FROM-INSTANCE should NOT be fucked with; I am not sure how it's supposed to operate, but under MySQL, it will update all the records in a table and set them to the same slot-values as the instance. I.e. all identical records!

The feature I needed is cleanly implemented using WITH-TRANSACTIONS. Again, embarassed and sorry for the confusion.

ilitirit• 17 years ago

I created a callback from PowerBuilder to C++ by using some PBNI (like JNI, but for PowerBuilder) trickery. Basically, the PowerBuilder application ran and loaded the external C++ library to handle expensive calculations. From the C++ DLL, I hooked into the PowerBuilder virtual machine, looked up a particular custom object and method, and then used the method as a callback. This wasn't the evil or immoral part though.

The hack was cool, but utterly stupid and pointless (the C++ was used for speed - calling back into PowerBuilder defeated the purpose). The only reason I did it was because the consultant who originally created the C++ DLL managed to convince my boss that the application would run much faster if PowerBuilder supported callbacks. So naturally my boss instructed me to do the impossible. I didn't complain because it seemed like a fun challenge at the time. I didn't tell him that it actually slowed the app down a bit though >:)

Jim_Neath• 17 years ago

Instead of fixing a MySQL query that took minutes, I wrote a mechanize script that logged into the host admin and deleted the query warning.

andrewf2• 17 years ago

  // we don't even pretend to work on anything but i386 and LE arm
  const unsigned char c[] = { 0x78, 0x56, 0x34, 0x12 };
  assert(sizeof(int) == 4 && *((int*)c) == 0x12345678);

pingu• 17 years ago

Could you explain what this does to those of us who're C/C++ challenged ? :)

andrewf2• 17 years ago

The software will assert out (bomb, hard) if it's running on a platform which isn't 32-bit (that's the sizeof), and little endian (checked by putting the individual bytes of 0x12345678 into memory in little-endian order, and making sure that when read as an integer, the value is correct).

Except it doesn't even do that well. Traditionally the C "int" type was the largest word size a machine could comfortably work with. But most 64-bit platforms have adopted the "LP64" and "LLP64" conventions - where "int" remains a 32-bit type. One reason to do this is that most values fit comfortably into 32 bits, so a 64-bit "int" wastes memory. Another reason is to keep shoddy code like this running!

y0ghur7_xxx• 17 years ago

HTML in a DB Stored Procedure...

Select '<a href="/tickets/ticket/'||i.ticket_id||'">'||lvar_title||'</a><br />' from tickets where ...

because I was to lazy to do it in the proper layer...

3pt14159• 17 years ago

I didn't have very many permissions from my sysadmin to do inserts (I'm a BI guy) but I had create temporary table permissions. I needed to take about 5000 system ids with corresponding region identifiers from one system that I could only access via screen. So I wrote an auto hotkey script to screen scrap them all and place them into a notepad file. I then opened the notepad file with excel and added a column of

"union select " 233455 ", " "usa"

"union select " 233455 ", " "canada"

Then puttied into my linux shell, opened emacs and added "create temporary table select 23456 as 'systemid', 'usa' as 'region'

Then pasted the entire csv of union selects. Did my joins, etc... Got the report out on time. I know now that I could have done it with an emacs macro, but just didn't have time to figure it out.

shudder

ssanders82• 17 years ago

Signing up for classes at FSU was always a huge pain. The session started at 8am and good classes filled up quickly. If a class was full you had to continually type in the registration number and submit the form to see if anyone had dropped it (there was a lot of turnover as people loaded up their schedule and then called their friends to see what timeslots they were in.)

I had just taught myself php and wrote a curl script with the classes I wanted, and the few timeslots I wanted, in order. After a brief struggle I finally realized I needed to hit port 443 instead of 80 and, voila, my initial class registration was complete. A few were full but it kept hammering the site every 10 seconds and over the next few hours I got emails whenever it successfully registered me with a class.

I actually thought about charging $5 to handle other students' registrations because they hated dragging out of bed at 8am and refreshing their browser for an hour. Somehow I decided the university wouldn't approve....

niyazpk• 17 years ago

This is not a very impressive hack compared to the other submissions here. But still here is my 'hack', if you want to call it that way.

When I was doing my graduate course in Computer Engineering, we had to submit loads of assignments each semester for each paper. "Assignment" means something that we should write by hand (print-outs not allowed) on any arbitrary topic provided by the lecturers. There was no problem solving ability required here, it was just answering questions like "What are the features of Java?", "Explain the layers in the TCP/IP model" etc.

As you can assume, this was a rather boring and useless exercise. In the first two years I made some girls from my class to write the assignments (which I am not interested in) for me in exchange for helping them in the computer lab and projects (which they were not much interested in).

By the end of second year, I found out another way to do this. I wrote a program that wrote the assignment for me. Here is how it worked: I will fetch the data from websites like Wikipedia etc and paste it in the program and the program will make it look like my handwriting. I click print and it will print the result to A4 sized papers and I submitted those.

I scanned my handwriting and separated each character and made it look like natural when paragraphs etc were constructed with this program.

The results were so impressive that later when I told this story and showed an assignment to one of my lecturers, he thought that I was just joking!

This hack even though trivial, saved me a lot of time in college.

yuvipanda• 17 years ago

That sounds like me. I'm still at the 'get girls to write your assignment' stage.

Tell me you're from TN (India)

shrikant• 17 years ago

I am. And I did that too :-)

(Man, girls really like to write, for whatever reason)

TrevorJ• 17 years ago

This is a lame hack, but I used to play lots of Red Faction on the LAN with my buddies. They where all better than me and I got tired of it so I hacked the config file and changed the power of most of the common weapons and gave myself a homing rocket launcher that you could basically fire and forget. On the open maps you cold fire it up in the air and maybe 30-40 seconds later it would see somebody and you'd get a kill.

skwaddar2• 17 years ago

Opening port 0 on NT4 would lock up the machine, I wrote a script to do it to all the dial-up ISPs running NT at 18:03

skwaddar2• 17 years ago

Fixing "Star In Their Eyes" with "an amazing response to our internet voting" to choose the winner.

That was lulz

tom_b2• 17 years ago

Some years ago, doing high performance dense matrix code in C, I replaced a bunch of modulo calls with a bunch of bit operations. You had to work with matrices that were a power of 2 in rows and columns, but you could pad it out and stuff worked.

A year later I looked at the code and couldn't figure out how it ever worked in the first place . . .

jacquesm6• 17 years ago

> A year later I looked at the code and couldn't figure out how it ever worked in the first place . . .

Isn't that the norm ?

tom_b2• 17 years ago

Probably. It actually had the opposite effect on me. I try to keep my code cleaner and more understandable now. I'll stick in better, more expansive comments in difficult spots.

I'll schedule a code review with peers. If I can explain/justify an ugly hack maybe it's not so bad. But sometimes the fundamental "wrongness" of some piece of code just drives me to try and find a better fix. One of those classic trade-offs, elegance vs expediency.

matt1• 17 years ago

Back in 2000 or so I ran an AOL hacking website called AOL-Files.com. One day, BMB, my confounder, successfully tricked a high level AOL employee into divulging his SecurID pin, which was required in addition to the user's password in order to sign on to their AOL accounts. SecurIDs, FYI, are a keychain-like device that you carry around that displays a six digit number which changes every 60 seconds seconds. AOL used it as an extra layer of security for important accounts.

Anyway, BMB gets this information and signs on to the account. Usually by this time the employee has figured out that you stole his information and is in the process of reporting it, so you don't have much time. BMB immediately attempts to go to the AOL Keyword Manager, which lets certain employees manage where specific AOL keywords take you. As it so happens, this employee had that access (it was very rare).

BMB redirected keyword "Welcome", which normally takes you to the AOL welcome screen, to our site, AOL-Files.com. Every person that signs on AOL, you see, gets automatically sent to keyword "Welcome" when they sign on.

For 20 minutes, every person that signed on AOL got sent to our site. We got 75,000 hits before AOL finally fixed it.

For anyone interested, I've got an archive of AOL-Files up on my site, which has a security breaches section that lists a lot of exploits like this one, including one where we stole every three character AIM name: http://www.mattmazur.com/archive/aol-files/index.html

I no longer support stealing people's stuff, but I still think the keyword Welcome exploit was badass.

gvb• 17 years ago

I hacked my son. He was four at the time. My wife sent me off one Saturday purportedly for a "father/son" bonding expedition to buy her Christmas present.

Well, I had seen what my mother-in-law did to kids: set them on her lap and pumped them so dry they squeaked for a week. I figured daughter == mother...

So, little Jeremy and I went shopping. All the way to the store I told Jeremy to not tell Mom what we bought (the hook ;-). At the store, I picked up a CD/alarm clock for Mom's present. Of course, Jeremy couldn't read, so he really didn't know what it was. I asked him if he thought Mom would like a thingamajig, and he thought it was a fine idea (baiting the hook ;-).

All the way home, I emphasized to little Jeremy that he was not to tell Mom that we bought her a thingamajig (setting the hook ;-).

When we got home, I disappeared into another room, but stayed within earshot. Sure enough, Mom got little Jeremy on her lap and started pumping him. He resisted valiantly, but he was only four and cracked after a couple of minutes. "It was a thingamajig!" he said.

CAUGHT! :-D

catzaa• 17 years ago

I wanted to use a certain drawing program (better than xfig but proprietary) for some of my studies. Since I was too cheap to pay the $10 registration fee I decided to try and crack it. It took an afternoon with OllyDbg to crack the program (from its trail version). This is significant because I haven’t looked at x86 assembly in 10 years.

I don’t know if I should be ashamed or proud.

krist0ph3r• 17 years ago

my ISP sent me a mail, offering an exclusive deal to get a credit card that was without extra charges for life, plus a huge number of freebies, cash backs, discounts and stuff. i clicked the link to the sign up form. i clicked on the sign up button. nothing happened.

i checked the source code. apparently the submit button was supposed to call a javascript function, but the function name was misspelled. so i entered javascript:doFormSubmit or whatever the function was called, in the address bar.

the application was accepted.

i checked the day before the offer expired. the form code still had the typo.

i'd like to believe i'm the only guy who got the 40% discount on a new microwave over and a new tv and 2 years of 25% discount on movie tickets :)

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