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Check out Cloudron: https://www.cloudron.io/

George Lucas didn’t have billions of merchandising revenue in mind

From https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1997/01/06/why-is-the-for...

Lucas’s most significant business decision—one that seemed laughable to the Fox executives at the time—was to forgo his option to receive an additional five-hundred-thousand-dollar fee from Fox for directing “Star Wars” and to take the merchandising and sequel rights instead.

The company I work for is trying to make this process a bit better - it's called RaiseMe: https://raise.me. These name buys are pretty untargeted, and often include only superficial demographic information.

The application and admission process is difficult to navigate and not transparent, and ends up disproportionately impacting the chances for immigrants, minorities, and first-generation college students of finding a good match.

Our hypothesis is that by surfacing available aid earlier, in smaller amounts ("microscholarships"), and allowing students to explore less-well-known colleges, and opt-in to having their information shared, engages students throughout their HS career, pushes them to achieve academically, and nets them a college better suited for them. We found this to be the case over the last 5 years, given our 300+ college partners and usage in 3 of 4 US high-schools.

Our college partners find spending their acquisition budget with us to access (opted-in) rich student data to find interested students that match their profile results in a greater ROI than spending their budget on spamming students and parents with glossy brochures.

(We've also found there to be opportunities to help transfer students navigate the transfer process, and help enrolled undergraduate students from dropping out.)

By the way, we're hiring.

RaiseMe | Senior and mde-level Full-stack engineers | San Francisco, CA | ONSITE, Full-time

https://raise.me

RaiseMe is expanding access to higher education by reinventing how students earn scholarship dollars from colleges. Our platform allows colleges and universities to award incremental "micro-scholarships" to high school and community college students, based on academic, testing, extracurricular, and real-world experience. We've over 250 college partners, and users in 1 of 2 high schools in the US. Many of our students earn tens-of-thousands of dollars for college. The coolest part of our platform is how it educates students about the possibility of college in the first place. Many of our users are first-generation college attendees, or minority or low-income students.

We closed our Series B in 2018, bringing our total funding to around $30M. Our investors include Salesforce Ventures, Chan-Zuckerberg Initiative, The Emerson Collective, Teamworthy Ventures, and First Round, among others.

Here's some awesome press coverage about us: - https://impact.vice.com/en_us/article/ne3yvm/students-earned... - https://www.fastcompany.com/90206816/exclusive-zuckerberg-ba... - https://www.edsurge.com/news/2018-07-26-raiseme-gets-15m-to-...

If you're an engineer looking to work with other smart and passionate individuals on the mission of helping all high school students achieve their college ambitions, get in touch! We are a small company still, with a 12-person engineering team. We offer competitive pay, great benefits (including a dog-friendly office!), and meaningful equity stake.

Tech stack: Ruby/Rails, React/Redux frontend, MongoDB/Postgres/Redshift, with some small things in Go, Python, and Node.

I'm happy to answer any questions - email me at bkudria@raise.me. Our jobs listing page is here: https://www.raise.me/jobs

RaiseMe | Senior and mde-level Full-stack engineers | San Francisco, CA | ONSITE, Full-time

https://raise.me

RaiseMe is expanding access to higher education by reinventing how students earn scholarship dollars from colleges. Our platform allows colleges and universities to award incremental "micro-scholarships" to high school and community college students, based on academic, testing, extracurricular, and real-world experience. We've over 250 college partners, and users in 1 of 2 high schools in the US. Many of our students earn tens-of-thousands of dollars for college. The coolest part of our platform is how it educates students about the possibility of college in the first place. Many of our users are first-generation college attendees, or minority or low-income students.

We closed our Series B in 2018, bringing our total funding to around $30M. Our investors include Salesforce Ventures, Chan-Zuckerberg Initiative, The Emerson Collective, Teamworthy Ventures, and First Round, among others.

Here's some awesome press coverage about us: - https://impact.vice.com/en_us/article/ne3yvm/students-earned... - https://www.fastcompany.com/90206816/exclusive-zuckerberg-ba... - https://www.edsurge.com/news/2018-07-26-raiseme-gets-15m-to-...

If you're an engineer looking to work with other smart and passionate individuals on the mission of helping all high school students achieve their college ambitions, get in touch! We are a small company still, with a 12-person engineering team. We offer competitive pay, great benefits (including a dog-friendly office!), and meaningful equity stake.

Tech stack: Ruby/Rails, React/Redux frontend, MongoDB/Postgres/Redshift, with some small things in Go, Python, and Node.

I'm happy to answer any questions - email me at bkudria@raise.me. Our jobs listing page is here: https://www.raise.me/jobs

RaiseMe | Full-stack engineers | San Francisco, CA | ONSITE, Full-time

RaiseMe is expanding access to higher education by reinventing how students earn scholarship dollars from colleges. Our platform allows colleges and universities to award incremental "micro-scholarships" to high school and community college students, based on academic, testing, extracurricular, and real-world experience. We've over 250 college partners, and users in 1 of 2 high schools in the US. Many of our students earn tens-of-thousands of dollars for college. The coolest part of our platform is how it educates students about the possibility of college in the first place. Many of our users are first-generation college attendees, or minority or low-income students.

We closed our Series B in 2018, bringing our total funding to around $30M. Our investors include Salesforce Ventures, Chan-Zuckerberg Initiative, Teamworthy Ventures, and First Round, among others.

Here's some awesome press coverage about us: - https://impact.vice.com/en_us/article/ne3yvm/students-earned... - https://www.fastcompany.com/90206816/exclusive-zuckerberg-ba... - https://www.edsurge.com/news/2018-07-26-raiseme-gets-15m-to-...

If you're an engineer looking to work with other smart and passionate individuals on the mission of helping all high school students achieve their college ambitions, get in touch! We are a small company still, with a 12-person engineering team. We offer competitive pay, great benefits (including a dog-friendly office!), and meaningful equity stake.

Tech stack: Ruby/Rails, React/Redux frontend, MongoDB/Postgres/Redshift, with some small things in Go, Python, and Node.

I'm happy to answer any questions - email me at bkudria@raise.me. Our jobs listing page is here: https://www.raise.me/jobs

RaiseMe | Principal, Senior, Full-stack engineers | San Francisco, CA | ONSITE, Full-time

RaiseMe is expanding access to higher education by reinventing how students earn scholarship dollars from colleges. Our platform allows colleges and universities to award incremental "micro-scholarships" to high school and community college students, based on academic, testing, extracurricular, and real-world experience. We've over 250 college partners, and users in 1 of 2 high schools in the US. Many of our students earn tens-of-thousands of dollars for college. The coolest part of our platform is how it educates students about the possibility of college in the first place. Many of our users are first-generation college attendees, or minority or low-income students.

We closed our Series B earlier in the year, bringing our total funding to around $30M. Our investors include Salesforce Ventures, Chan-Zuckerberg Initiative, Teamworthy Ventures, and First Round, among others.

Here's some awesome press coverage about us: - https://impact.vice.com/en_us/article/ne3yvm/students-earned... - https://www.fastcompany.com/90206816/exclusive-zuckerberg-ba... - https://www.edsurge.com/news/2018-07-26-raiseme-gets-15m-to-...

If you're an engineer looking to work with other smart and passionate individuals on the mission of helping all high school students achieve their college ambitions, get in touch! We are a small company still, with a 12-person engineering team. We offer competitive pay, great benefits (including a dog-friendly office!), and meaningful equity stake.

Tech stack: Ruby/Rails, React/Redux frontend, MongoDB/Postgres/Redshift, with some small things in Go, Python, and Node.

I'm happy to answer any questions - email me at bkudria@raise.me. Our jobs listing page is here: https://www.raise.me/jobs

RaiseMe | Principal, Senior, Full-stack engineers | San Francisco, CA | ONSITE, Full-time

RaiseMe is expanding access to higher education by reinventing how students earn scholarship dollars from colleges. Our platform allows colleges and universities to award incremental "micro-scholarships" to high school and community college students, based on academic, testing, extracurricular, and real-world experience. We've over 250 college partners, and users in 1 of 2 high schools in the US. Many of our students earn tens-of-thousands of dollars for college. The coolest part of our platform is how it educates students about the possibility of college in the first place. Many of our users are first-generation college attendees, or minority or low-income students.

We closed our Series B earlier in the year, bringing our total funding to around $30M. Our investors include Salesforce Ventures, Chan-Zuckerberg Initiative, Teamworthy Ventures, and First Round, among others.

Here's some awesome press coverage about us: - https://impact.vice.com/en_us/article/ne3yvm/students-earned... - https://www.fastcompany.com/90206816/exclusive-zuckerberg-ba... - https://www.edsurge.com/news/2018-07-26-raiseme-gets-15m-to-...

If you're an engineer looking to work with other smart and passionate individuals on the mission of helping all high school students achieve their college ambitions, get in touch! We are a small company still, with a 12-person engineering team. We offer competitive pay, great benefits (including a dog-friendly office!), and meaningful equity stake.

Tech stack: Ruby/Rails, React/Redux frontend, MongoDB/Postgres/Redshift, with some small things in Go, Python, and Node.

I'm happy to answer any questions - email me at bkudria@raise.me. Our jobs listing page is here: https://www.raise.me/jobs

RaiseMe | Engineer, DevOps | San Francisco, CA | ONSITE, Full-time

RaiseMe is expanding access to higher education by reinventing how students earn scholarship dollars from colleges. Our platform allows colleges and universities to award incremental "micro-scholarships" to high school (and soon, community college) students, based on academic, testing, extracurricular, and real-world experience. We've over 250 college partners, and users in 1 of 2 high schools in the US. Many of our students earn tens-of-thousands of dollars for college. The coolest part of our platform is how it educates students about the possibility of college in the first place. Many of our users are first-generation college attendees, or minority or low-income students.

Here's a recent VICE Impact article about us: https://impact.vice.com/en_us/article/ne3yvm/students-earned...

If you're an engineer looking to work with other smart and passionate individuals on the mission of helping all high school students achieve their college ambitions, get in touch! We are a small company, with a 12-person engineering team. We offer competitive pay, great benefits (including a dog-friendly office!), and meaningful equity stake.

Tech stack: Ruby/Rails, React/Redux frontend, MongoDB/Postgres/Redshift, with some small things in Go, Python, and Node.

I'm happy to answer any questions - email me at ben@raise.me. Our jobs listing page is here: https://www.raise.me/jobs

RaiseMe | Full Stack Engineer | San Francisco, CA | ONSITE, Full-time

RaiseMe is expanding access to higher education by reinventing how students earn scholarship dollars from colleges. Our platform allows colleges and universities to award incremental "micro-scholarships" to high school (and soon, community college) students, based on academic, testing, extracurricular, and real-world experience. We've over 250 college partners, and users in 1 of 2 high schools in the US. Many of our students earn tens-of-thousands of dollars for college. The coolest part of our platform is how it educates students about the possibility of college in the first place. Many of our users are first-generation college attendees, or minority or low-income students.

Here's a recent VICE Impact article about us: https://impact.vice.com/en_us/article/ne3yvm/students-earned...

If you're an engineer looking to work with other smart and passionate individuals on the mission of helping all high school students achieve their college ambitions, get in touch! We are a small company, with a 14-person engineering team. We offer competitive pay, great benefits (including a dog-friendly office!), and meaningful equity stake.

Tech stack: Ruby/Rails, React/Redux frontend, MongoDB/Postgres/Redshift, with some small things in Go, Python, and Node.

I'm happy to answer any questions - email me at ben@raise.me. Our jobs listing page is here: https://www.raise.me/jobs

RaiseMe | Full Stack Engineer | San Francisco, CA | ONSITE, Full-time

RaiseMe is expanding access to higher education by reinventing how students earn scholarship dollars from colleges. Our platform allows colleges and universities to award incremental "micro-scholarships" to high school (and soon, community college) students, based on academic, testing, extracurricular, and real-world experience. We've over 250 college partners, and users in 1 of 2 high schools in the US. Many of our students earn tens-of-thousands of dollars for college. The coolest part of our platform is how it educates students about the possibility of college in the first place. Many of our users are first-generation college attendees, or minority or low-income students.

Here's a recent VICE Impact article about us: https://impact.vice.com/en_us/article/ne3yvm/students-earned...

If you're an engineer looking to work with other smart and passionate individuals on the mission of helping all high school students achieve their college ambitions, get in touch! We are a small company, with a 14-person engineering team. We offer competitive pay, great benefits (including a dog-friendly office!), and meaningful equity stake.

Tech stack: Ruby/Rails, React/Redux frontend, MongoDB/Postgres/Redshift, with some small things in Go, Python, and Node.

I'm happy to answer any questions - email me at ben@raise.me. Our jobs listing page is here: https://www.raise.me/jobs

RaiseMe | Full Stack Engineer | San Francisco, CA | ONSITE, Full-time

RaiseMe is expanding access to higher education by reinventing how students earn scholarship dollars from colleges. Our platform allows colleges and universities to award incremental "micro-scholarships" to high school (and soon, community college) students, based on academic, testing, extracurricular, and real-world experience. We've over 250 college partners, and users in 1 of 2 high schools in the US. Many of our students earn tens-of-thousands of dollars for college. The coolest part of our platform is how it educates students about the possibility of college in the first place. Many of our users are first-generation college attendees, or minority or low-income students.

Here's a recent VICE Impact article about us: https://impact.vice.com/en_us/article/ne3yvm/students-earned...

If you're an engineer looking to work with other smart and passionate individuals on the mission of helping all high school students achieve their college ambitions, get in touch! We are a small company, with a 14-person engineering team. We offer competitive pay, great benefits (including a dog-friendly office!), and meaningful equity stake.

Tech stack: Ruby/Rails, React/Redux frontend, MongoDB/Postgres/Redshift, with some small things in Go, Python, and Node.

I'm happy to answer any questions - email me at ben@raise.me. Our jobs listing page is here: https://www.raise.me/jobs

RaiseMe is awesome. Here's a recent VICE Impact article about us: https://impact.vice.com/en_us/article/ne3yvm/students-earned...

I really like the NHS's Choices for their summary of heath news and studies. Their coverage here: http://www.nhs.uk/news/2017/04April/Pages/Weak-link-between-...

Zsh can do all of these things without too much configuration, but Fish is still missing my favorite Zsh feature: `push-line-or-edit`: https://nathangrigg.com/2014/04/zsh-push-line-or-edit

There is http://fetching.io/

One of the nice benefits of being a Medicare Advantage provider is that there is a set comprehensive of member-oriented regulations and protections in place that force us to benefits the member. In this case, the government pays us on a risk-adjusted basis (based on CMS-set risk-adjustment factors.) We are therefore incentivized to comprehensively collect and document every member's risk, so that we are able to manage their medical expenses. (Also worth noting: we are required by law to spend 85% of our payments directly on member care.)

Our Tech blog has some more in-depth dives into what we do and how: https://technology.cloverhealth.com/

This blog post has links to videos, too: https://technology.cloverhealth.com/pipelines-in-python-e7eb...

Clover Health uses Airflow to great effect. One of our engineers has given an introductory talk at a couple Python meetups. Slides are here: https://speakerdeck.com/pybay2016/matt-davis-a-practical-int...

Clover Health, in San Francisco, is hiring full-time engineers, with a preference for Python. Job descriptions: https://cloverhealth.com/about-us/careers.html

Clover Health is a Medicare health insurance provider, which is the only way to get a complete profile of a patient's health (since all billable items come through us). We've a team of RNs and other experts on the ground who are able to fill basic gaps in care that hospitals and primary care providers are not incentivized to fill. Our money comes directly from the government, and the healthier our members are, the less of it we need to spend.

We've built an awesome team of incredibly diverse and talented individuals, with background in healthcare and tech. One co-founder started a fully-integrated healthcare and hospital network in New Jersey. The other co-founder was a founding engineer and then VP of Engineering at Yammer.

We're tackling a number of challenges, including integrating legacy data from numerous sources including claims' processing, lab tests results, and provider practices. We're building data pipelines to allow our Data Science team to build models to identify gaps in care. We're building internal tools to allow our nurses, pharmacists, and other experts to quickly see a complete picture of a member's health, chronic conditions, interaction history, and any other relevant information.

There is plenty to build, but (depending on how you count) we only have 12-18 engineers. We all work in a great office in downtown SF, with all the usual startup perks. The best part of this team is the incredible diversity, and the focus we all have on fixing an incredibly broken system. Our business is structured in a way that aligns our incentives with actually maintaining the health and wellness of our members. We recently announced a $100M A led by First Round Capital [1, 2]

Our stack is primarily Python/PostgreSQL, but we're looking for anyone who is talented and has experience. If you're interested, please send your resume to ben.kudria@cloverhealth.com, with a short note explaining why you're interested in Clover.

1: http://www.businessinsider.com/first-round-capital-makes-big... 2: http://techcrunch.com/2015/09/17/clover-health-a-data-driven...

Clover Health, in San Francisco, is hiring full-time engineers, with a preference for Python. Job descriptions: https://cloverhealth.com/about-us/careers.html

Clover Health is a Medicare health insurance provider, which is the only way to get a complete profile of a patient's health (since all billable items come through us). We've a team of RNs and other experts on the ground who are able to fill basic gaps in care that hospitals and primary care providers are not incentivized to fill. Our money comes directly from the government, and the healthier our members are, the less of it we need to spend.

We've built an awesome team of incredibly diverse and talented individuals, with background in healthcare and tech. One co-founder started a fully-integrated healthcare and hospital network in New Jersey. The other co-founder was a founding engineer and then VP of Engineering at Yammer.

We're tackling a number of challenges, including integrating legacy data from numerous sources including claims' processing, lab tests results, and provider practices. We're building data pipelines to allow our Data Science team to build models to identify gaps in care. We're building internal tools to allow our nurses, pharmacists, and other experts to quickly see a complete picture of a member's health, chronic conditions, interaction history, and any other relevant information.

There is plenty to build, but (depending on how you count) we only have 12-18 engineers. We all work in a great office in downtown SF, with all the usual startup perks. The best part of this team is the incredible diversity, and the focus we all have on fixing an incredibly broken system. Our business is structured in a way that aligns our incentives with actually maintaining the health and wellness of our members. We recently announced a $100M A led by First Round Capital [1, 2]

Our stack is primarily Python/PostgreSQL, but we're looking for anyone who is talented and has experience. If you're interested, please send your resume to ben.kudria@cloverhealth.com, with a short note explaining why you're interested in Clover.

1: http://techcrunch.com/2015/09/17/clover-health-a-data-driven...

2: http://www.businessinsider.com/first-round-capital-makes-big...

Thich Nhat Hanh (the Vietnamese Zen monk whom MLK nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize) wrote "Living Buddha, Living Christ" drawing more extensive parallels.

How do you know they haven't?

Study: http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2015/02/20/015032 (N=82)

Books:

What The Buddha Taught: http://amzn.com/0802130313. A straightforward overview of the foundations of Buddhism.

Cutting Through Spiritual Materialism: http://amzn.com/1570629579. In your journey, your ego will be tempted to claim your spirituality for itself. Don't let that happen.

Mindfulness In Plain English: http://amzn.com/0861719069. A classic introduction to meditation.

Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind: http://amzn.com/1590308492. A mind-opening taste of Zen, and a classic. Read with your heart, not your brain.

Other recommended Zen authors: Seung Sahn. Taizan Maezumi. Brad Warner. The aforementioned Alan Watts.

Also, an invaluable online resource: http://www.accesstoinsight.org, especially essays by Thanissaro Bhikkhu: http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/authors/thanissaro/index....

There are also many fantastic essays on Tricycle: http://www.tricycle.com

Finally: reading about Buddhism is like reading about the most delicious food. It won't satisfy your hunger. It's mind-medicine - only for your mind. The only soul-medicine is sitting down every day on a cushion and looking at a white wall. (Or variations thereof.) You cannot reach enlightenment and save all beings from suffering by reading a book. Don't take my word for it - you have to see for yourself.

Hey, I'd love to chat with you about this. Please send me an email! (Address in my profile.)

In the US: http://www.ecstasydata.org/

Propeller, based in SF, is looking for great full-time developers to help change the way simple mobile apps are built. We're trying to do something legitimately new here, so first, some background: Right now, building a mobile app means:

1 (optional): Try to build a crappy version using non-native platform technologies like: HTML5, Titanium, PhoneGap, or some other solution that attempts to use or translate the web way (HTML/JS) to mobile.

2: Spend a lot of time and money building your mobile app from scratch using native API (Cocoa/Android)

Apart from the pain induced when you try to do (1) before (2), this is fine if you're building a complex or involved app that merits significant and dedicated time and money for development.

But, at Propeller, we think there is great demand for the ability to build simple mobile apps (which is why tools for (1) exist.) But, (1) sucks - it's not native, or it's native translated from web technologies, and becomes unnecessarily complicated. Method (2) works, but it's incredibly expensive because everything is being built from scratch.

HTML/JS was a great idea when shipping code was difficult, and users didn't want to install software. Everyone had a runtime already (the browser), and so simple applications were built on that platform. First just with HTML (the <form> element) and then HTML+JS for clients that were called "rich" but just needed to do things HTML forms couldn't do.

But taking this model and attempting to make it work on mobile is not only bad engineering, it's misguided! This model makes sense when you can't ship actual code to your users, but Apple changed all that by inventing[1] the App Store (straightforward) and getting users to trust it (really a big deal.) This removes the distribution problem. Users will install your software, so you don't need to target a legacy distribution stack that was originally designed for sharing documents and a really weird language with so many quirks a book title "The Good Parts" had to be written. It's bad engineering motivated by decisions which aren't relevant anymore. Building mobile applications on top of (or translated from) a legacy stack with so many workarounds, shims, libraries on top of libraries, Shadow DOMs, cross-browser compatibility, compile-to-JS, minification, XSS protections, and so on is just crazy.

HTML/JS on mobile will always suck and will always play catch-up because it's built on a legacy foundation. Hell, it sucks on the desktop now too. We put up with it because the alternative isn't feasible.

</rant>

But, there is another way! There are good ideas here.

Shipping code (and waiting for Apple to approve it) brings us back to the days when we had to release major versions and burn them to CDs and put them in boxes. It's un-agile. Developers love writing web apps because it's agile - they can change their application, deploy, and release their fix or feature very quickly. That's invaluable and should not be impossible on mobile. [2] So, our hypothesis is that there are a class of simple mobile apps whose behavior can be described declaratively using a simple JSON format that can be hosted statically, or delivered piecemeal as needed, or even generated dynamically a la a REST API. It could describe an app UI directly, and also how it interacts with a server API, and it could be rendered using native controls.

Think Web apps, but instead of a legacy stack that wasn't designed for application development, a simpler and more straightforward format uniquely suited and designed for modern Internet/Web applications, taking into consideration all of the things we've learned a modern Internet application needs.

Right now we're building (and shipping) sophisticated apps that are defined by our JSON format and rendered using 100% native controls on iOS and Android. We can update that JSON at any time to change the app on next launch. We can send down new JSON via an AJAX-like mechanism. We're iterating on the format/protocol, and shipping new version of the client. We're figuring stuff out around client-side views, realtime client<->server communication, data sync in general, and many other interesting things. There are enormous problems to be solved here, both engineering-wise and in API/Protocol/Architecture design.

YOU: are an interested hacker who isn't content to let people build shoddy applications on a gross legacy stack, or invest way too much time and money for things that really should be a lot easier. We're looking for someone who realizes all these pain points and isn't afraid to imagine how things should be done. Think: in 10 years, will people really be building new apps on HTML? No. Come help us design the stack of the future. Ideally, you have experience in iOS and Android, since that's our most pressing need right now and likely in the future.

US: a 3-person team (two co-founders and myself) trying to modernize (mobile) application development. We run Rails/Postgres/Sidekiq on the backend for the apps we host for our users, but our clients consume JSON so that's an implementation detail. In the future people can generate that JSON using any backend they want. Our iOS application is in Ruby (via RubyMotion, which has worked well for us) and some ObjC, and our Android client is in Java. We share some code between them (like our layout engine) and we want to share more. We've taken a seed round from some great investors[3]. We're very small still, so your impact would be immense.

EMAIL: jobs@usepropeller.com (I'm ben@usepropeller.com)

1: Yes, I remember Linspire. I'm using "invent" loosely here.

2: Apple doesn't let you actually ship code (or, technically speaking, an interpreter, you can ship JS) but many client-side interactions don't actually need to be re-implemented every time. HTML forms are an example: client-side interactivity without custom logic. There are many other interactions that can be abstracted this way, especially on mobile, where user interactions are more constrained, and especially for stuff that just updates the UI and can be solved using a Reactive/Data Flow approach.

3: http://techcrunch.com/2013/06/27/propeller-gets-1-25m-from-a...

Maybe, the author wrote the two stories as interesting anchors around the principle in order to help you recall it when you need to. Maybe. Or something.