Let's scaffold a Web App

by tilt • 12 years ago

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the1• 12 years ago

to scaffold an app in php, `vim index.php`

jbeja3• 12 years ago

I think that you would have to make the scoffold command yourself, there is a guide on there website that teach you how to make your own yoeman scaffold, to fits your needs.

nahname• 12 years ago

Not a php dev. You get asset compression and scss compilation natively from php? That would be pretty amazing!

jbeja3• 12 years ago

There is these: http://leafo.net/scssphp/

rschmitty2• 12 years ago

This is what's wrong with so much php out in the world I encounter on moonlighting gigs. Everyone crams it all into index.php

Maybe you were joking, but to call editing an index.php file a scaffold is scary (although highly profitable for me!)

mgkimsal• 12 years ago

"although highly profitable for me!"

Is it really? Personally, I've found that many of the projects which hired those sorts of developers either have little budget to start with, or have little budget left for a 'version 2' or 'clean up version 1' effort, because they spent most of it on the earlier garbage. Certainly plenty of work available to do that sort of clean up, but it doesn't strike me as 'highly profitable' on the whole.

camus2• 12 years ago

Because it's better cram everything in a server.js file ! sure.

girvo3• 12 years ago

Nope. 'artisan' is the command you want. Oh, you're not using Laravel? You should be.

Bahamut• 12 years ago

Symfony has similar generators as well.

stephenr2• 12 years ago

Why should s/he be using it? Because you think if it suits your requirements it must suit everyone else's?

bigonlogn2• 12 years ago

yeoman seems to be involved very little, in this tutorial. It seems more like a bower/grunt tutorial. I was expecting to see yeoman used to generate models, views, and controllers. It's a shame because, I think this is where yeoman could really shine.

jbeja3• 12 years ago

Agree, i already jumped to the gulp + broweserify wagon and i love it.

rartichoke2• 12 years ago

It's strange how so many people bag on rails and say its generators are useless but so many other techs have spent years trying to replicate that style of app development.

I enjoy using generators btw.

adammulligan• 12 years ago

A friend and I get a lot of use out of a set of Backbone.js generators we created[1]. Even once you know what you're doing, I find generators a much more reliable way of producing the underlying code for projects.

1: https://github.com/th3james/BackboneDiorama

bigonlogn2• 12 years ago

Generators definitely have their place. They're good for prototyping, and creating internal tools. Tasks that are time sensitive and can really benefit from eliminating boilerplate code.

Larger LOB, or public facing apps require more thought and planning to ensure that they get the job done right.

karolisd• 12 years ago

Is there a reason the todos list is a list of text inputs? It makes sorting them awkward because there's so little area that's draggable.

dstroot2• 12 years ago

These generators are excellent tools to learn how to organize your code, setup your tools, etc. I have used Yeoman and am amazed at how the community has grown. I'm a big fan of Addy Osmani as well.

HOWEVER a "scaffold" doesn't really teach you how to use OAUTH to authenticate with Facebook, handle sending emails (welcomes, password resets, etc.) or even how to really build something. Instead I'm a big fan of working site examples:

Drywall: http://jedireza.github.io/drywall/ Hackathon-starter: http://hackathonstarter.herokuapp.com/ Skeleton (Mine): http://skeleton-app.jit.su/

You get all the scaffolding + real working code for all the basic site functions. You then build from there.

jsumrall• 12 years ago

Wow, I was just looking for something like this. So far I am liking yours (Skeleton) the most as someone without any experience in this domain.

Thanks a lot!

dstroot2• 12 years ago

Cool! Let me know if you have questions.

stewbrew• 12 years ago

It's always funny when you use one of those little tools to scaffold a little app and then realize that 500M of disk space were used to setup a simple hello world example.

Brajeshwar• 12 years ago

Love Yeoman. One of my favorite generator is the JekyllRB Genrator[1]. It leverages the power of Jekyll with Grunt and Bower.

1. https://github.com/robwierzbowski/generator-jekyllrb

Let's scaffold a Web App

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