I live my life a quarter century at a time

https://tla.systems/blog/2025/01/04/i-live-my-life-a-quarter-century-at-a-time/

by CharlesW • 2 years ago

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jpm_sd3• 2 years ago

Great story, and a thought-provoking title. I LLOLed at "We’ll just tell Steve you did move."

I'm 45, so I'll mark my 2nd quarter-century in the not-too-distant future.

Very approximately, so far:

0-25: learning

25-50: doing

50-75: TBD

onlyrealcuzzo2• 2 years ago

75-100: Hopefully not dead.

jpm_sd3• 2 years ago

Depends on how 50-75 goes!

nine_k2• 2 years ago

Not dead but disabled and dimwit, an annoyance to those who used to love the person you previously were, likely also short on money all the misery which that entails? No, this is seriously worse than death to me.

Either it's a life worth living, or forced shutdown for me, while I still have a say.

Gualdrapo• 2 years ago

I LLOLed at "We’ll just tell Steve you did move."

It made me remember about that rumor of Musk firing people at random, but afterwards their immediate superiors just make them to move to another office whatsoever - Musk won't remember the next time he'd be there.

turnsout• 2 years ago

They told the same exact yarn about Steve back in the day. I think both are probably exaggerated.

jwr3• 2 years ago

That timescale… got me thinking.

In my case it was closer to:

0-25: dicking around, with some incidental learning

25-35: learning how one gets screwed in business deals (by getting screwed in business deals)

35-40: dicking around pretending to work and thinking this is called "startups"

40-50: actually doing stuff, working on meaningful things that people pay for and making a good living off that

I am looking forward to the future :-)

y1n0• 2 years ago

You’ve peaked. The rest is just the same story in reverse.

bitwize4• 2 years ago

I'm 47. 50+ is looking a lot like "struggling to run the red queen's race to keep my wife and furbabies safe, sheltered, and provided for, while watching the eventual deterioration of my body into uselessness and decrepitude begin, and watching ageism diminish my opportunities in the field". Affordable rejuvenation therapy in the next couple of decades is pretty much my only hope. Maybe then I could claw back another decade or two of vigorous life with my wife with greater wisdom than I had the first time around.

purple-leafy• 2 years ago

Ha for me its been:

0-25: Arrogance, ignorance, stupidity, delusions, boring normal person

25-50: Obsessive learning/study, application, and passion, finding myself

50-75: Not there yet

I just turned 30 and I'm having a blast learning graphics and audio programming, mostly in C! Found my passion, raycasting, audio engineering, and building desktop software

BriggyDwiggs422• 2 years ago

Yeah the only thing i dont love about the framing is that it implies you cant still be in the learning phase later in life. Neuroplasticity can be encouraged and cultivated.

peterlada• 2 years ago

Or as Shakespeare would have put it:

0-25: Act I 24-50: Act II 50-75: Act III, the final act.

dasloop• 2 years ago

I`m pretty sure that most of us will be alive after that final act ;)

scarface_7411• 2 years ago

For me:

0-22 - I’m someone else’s responsibility - graduated college degree in CS

22-36 - shuffled aimlessly between two meaningless jobs, a horrible mistake of a marriage (and divorce), got into real estate too heavily and the crash of 2008, taught fitness classes on the side as my only outlet.

36-46 - got remarried and became an instant father to a 9 and 14, rebuilt my career from scratch and hopped between 5 jobs, got my finances under control after walking away from 5 mortgages, built a strong marriage and both (step)sons graduated. “Retired my wife” when she was 44.

46 - present - transitioned into consulting, got first and only job at BigTech, (working remotely cloud consulting department), moved permanently into what was a vacation home in Florida, and start traveling extensively post Covid including doing the digital nomad thing. Left BigTech and enjoying a nice balanced life with my wife while I work remotely and she enjoys her passion projects.

VoidWhisperer• 2 years ago

What does 'retired my wife' mean in this context?

interludead4• 2 years ago

Out of curiosity, what do you think was the biggest turning point for you?

throwaway657656• 2 years ago

suggested edit:

0-25: learning

25-50: earning

50-75: returning

sudhirj• 2 years ago

Old Hindu philosphies have a similar split.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%80%C5%9Brama_(stage)

0-25y grow and study

25-50y develop your household, your family, your community and gain wealth (non-extractive, provide value).

50y-75y hand over all worldly things to the next generation, advise, teach and help those around you. Focus on your spiritual enlightenment.

75y- renounce the world and disappear into the forest as a monk / hermit.

beebmam• 2 years ago

I hope more people read comments like these and ask themselves: "What warrants these life suggestions? Are they justified? What would make them justified? What alternatives are there?"

keiferski• 2 years ago

Similar to Andrew Carnegie, although I am not sure if he quite disappeared from the world:

The "Andrew Carnegie Dictum" was:

- To spend the first third of one's life getting all the education one can.

- To spend the next third making all the money one can.

- To spend the last third giving it all away for worthwhile causes.

bix6• 2 years ago

I’ve only ever heard these sequentially so was interesting to read they need not be.

“while in the original system presented in the early Dharmasutras the Asramas were four alternative available ways of life, neither presented as sequential nor with age recommendations.”

moffkalast• 2 years ago

Can we just skip to disappearing into the forest as a monk? The rest of it seems a bit unnecessary.

kamaal• 2 years ago

I hope there was something like a fun quarter some where in there.

Perhaps whatever we might call it.

0 - death -> Doing things.

This is just how it unfolds.

cmrdporcupine2• 2 years ago

Just turned 50.

Unfortunately I already feel like a theme of 50-75 is "forgetting."

I remember very well the stuff I learned from 0-25 but damned if I remember last month.

neilv2• 2 years ago

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ronyeh• 2 years ago

Denzel’s Learn, Earn, Return.

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx1T-qoilkYC6vZ48N8US2aM9nHiFTq2I...

safety1st• 2 years ago

I think it's interesting that everyone's timeline here stops at 75, meanwhile we're about to inaugurate a 78 year old President, who is replacing an 82 year old President.

As much as everyone loves to hate these guys, they're the most powerful men in the world and they clearly didn't get there by fading into retirement from the age of 50 onward. I guess it depends on what you want in life but I wouldn't mind taking a hint from them. You clearly don't need to stop when you're old. For some, life appears to be a continual doubling down for higher and higher stakes.

I'm in my mid 40s and as my resources expand all I want to do is ante up and wrestle with bigger demons. Every decade for me is one more chance, maybe the last, to reclaim the stolen aspirations of my youth. The ticker will give out someday, but until then I don't want to ever stop. I'm the healthiest and probably also the angriest I've been in 20 years. Whatever else may transpire I hope to be a bit like those croaking old fuckers and never go gently.

vnce• 2 years ago

effin' a :)

kelseydh• 2 years ago

Reminds me of that old guy in the documentary Ren Faire who absolutely refuses to step down and pass power down to the next generation.

yzydserd• 2 years ago

0-25: learning

25-50: doing

50-75: enjoying

75-100: leaving

leoc5• 2 years ago

Fiche bliain ag fás,
Fiche bliain faoi bhláth,
Fiche bliain ag meath
Agus fiche bliain gur cuma ann no as.

"Twenty years growing,

Twenty years in bloom,

Twenty years in decline,

And twenty years when it makes no difference if you're there or gone."

generic92034• 2 years ago

And twenty years when it makes no difference if you're there or gone.

That does not seem to picture today's reality all that well, considering that most power in the world is concentrated in the hands of 60+ year old people.

pchristensen• 2 years ago

Some describe the three phases of your career as learn, earn, return (e.g. philanthropy, advising, etc).

cactusplant73742• 2 years ago

Drag Thing. What a trip down memory lane. I had totally forgotten about playing around with this application in my youth.

ChrisMarshallNY• 2 years ago

I loved that utility.

One of the things about Aqua, was that it really slowed things down.

We had gotten prerelease OS X, but it basically used Classic UI.

Once Aqua came out, things like window drawing, dragging, and general responsiveness, went way down.

cactusplant73742• 2 years ago

I noticed that. I was always on the cheapest hardware so I made peace with it.

dcrazy5• 2 years ago

Aqua would rather drop frames than produce incorrect or partial draws.

dukeofdoom• 2 years ago

For the purpose of organization, 15 minute intervals, is how you should look at your day. You only have abut 64 of these in your day to allocate (if you sleep 8 hours) So make the most of them.

ghssds• 2 years ago

I live my life four quarter century at a time for I don't ignore 4 simultaneous days same earth rotation. Navel Connects 4 Corner 4s. Bikini Bottom is the signature of your personal creator.

dcrazy5• 2 years ago

I don’t know if you’ve been voted down to discourage joke comments or because people aren’t familiar with Timecube.

defrost• 2 years ago

It'll be a bit of both, given time the timecube comment might rise again.

I get a mixed reaction to tongue in cheek, jokey comments that I make, some rise, most fall - HN doesn't lack a sense of humour but a good many don't want to see it normalised as that tends to drag the general level downwards.

smorchyborch• 2 years ago

Kinda funny watching people OOoh and Aaaah over something that Windows had launched 5 years earlier with Win95. The Mac/Windows flamewars back then were still as vivid as they are today.

re• 2 years ago

If you're talking about the Dock demo (vs the Windows taskbar), it's not so much the Dock itself getting that reaction but more so the Genie effect. Mac OS X 10.0 and its Quartz Compositor did enable window effects beyond what Windows was capable of at the time--Windows didn't get a compositing window manager until Vista was released in 2007.

incanus77• 2 years ago

I don't recall Windows 95 spatially minimizing windows into the bottom of the screen while preserving their dynamically updating contents. Did it? Or was it full of identical grey rectangles and moved window contents just by their outline, not their contents? The Aqua interface was a cut above given the landscape even five years later.

eru8• 2 years ago

Or was it full of identical grey rectangles and moved window contents just by their outline, not their contents?

It moved the whole window, but you could enable the effect you mention to save on system resources. (If memory serves right.)

ben7799• 2 years ago

It's kind of easy to forget OSX did this but it was glacially slow at first.

I remember seeing the Betas in 1999-2000 or so and they were on an iMac and the whole UI barely worked.

And I think in 2004-2006 I was still turning the animations down or selecting the simpler ones. I maybe started leaving them on when I got a monster Mac Pro in 2006.

bitwize4• 2 years ago

Kinda funny watching Windows nerds ooh and aah over something Jobs launched 7 years earlier with NEXTSTEP :)

dcrazy5• 2 years ago

The Dock was an evolution of the applets that had originated in NeXTSTEP several years before Windows 95’s UI team iterated the “system tray” into the taskbar that actually shipped.

qingcharles2• 2 years ago

And I guess Windows 95 was sorta building on the fact you could stack your open windows at the bottom of the screen in Windows 3.x. The early versions of 95 I was running still had the 3.x look to the taskbar/dock:

http://toastytech.com/guis/chic58.html

varjag• 2 years ago

And whatever was in Win95 was in Motif, right? Come on it was distinctively superior when it came out.

kergonath6• 2 years ago

The dock has more to do with NeXTSTEP’s than with the Windows taskbar. They really are quite different (though maybe less so these days compared to back in the late 1990).

jbjbjbjb• 2 years ago

As a software engineer from the U.K. I always wondered if mega big tech did any interesting work outside the US. Hopefully things have changed now?

aardvark179• 2 years ago

They do quite a lot of interesting things, but often either through acquisitions or by collecting up a whole load of specialists when somebody else closes an office. You also find some interesting stuff being done in the UK and the EU because salaries aren’t as high over here.

eru8• 2 years ago

We did some interesting work at Google Sydney. Google Wave was developed there, for example. (But that was before my time.)

qingcharles2• 2 years ago

Definitely. Megacorps often outsource projects to development shops in the UK, even if they're not working directly for Megacorp. It's just hard to hear about it because NDA hell.

source: experience

JKCalhoun3• 2 years ago

Cork had Apple engineering. A lot of work was done in Apple France as well. (For example I worked with the French team that wrote "Data Detectors" when I worked on Preview at Apple). Pretty sure a lot of the French accents I heard on the Photos team were engineers that had decided to move from France to The Valley.

kergonath6• 2 years ago

Indeed. There was a developers teams around Jean-Marie Hullot in Paris up until 2005. They were responsible among others of iCal and iSync, and I believe iPhoto (Hullot was a photographer and a photo nerd).

yodsanklai• 2 years ago

Yes, they do. On the top of my head, Meta Fair labs has a big office in Paris for instance. Google/Meta have offices in Europe (including pretty big ones) and have interesting teams there.

runamuck• 2 years ago

I laughed at the title! My friends and I say the original quote way to much, even 25 years later. (From "Fast and Furious - Vin Diesel says "I live my life a quarter mile at a time.")

bthrn• 2 years ago

At work I coined the phrase "Fast & Furious Planning" to describe teams that plan only a quarter at a time (without regard for longer term thinking).

blitzar• 2 years ago

For those 10 seconds or less, they are free.

eru8• 2 years ago

Small tangent:

As a final note, when I left Apple for the last time, and emptied out my drawers, at the very bottom of the last drawer I found my distinctly unsigned NDA.

I wonder if that legally makes any difference? There's probably an oral or implied contract for this kind of stuff, if you keep showing up to work and they keep paying you?

JKCalhoun3• 2 years ago

I've always wondered about the opposite. That is can an NDA even be legally enforced?

eru8• 2 years ago

Why wouldn't it?

I was wondering the opposite: even if you don't explicitly sign some contracts, as long as you have seen them and behave as-if you are following the contract and the other party gives you their part of the bargaining, that might be legally (almost) equivalent to having signed the contract. (I'm not a lawyer, and this is speculation.)

It seems the legal term of art for this in 'an implied contract'.

rcbdev• 2 years ago

How do you "imply" non-disclosure?

eru8• 2 years ago

Well, you hand your employees that very sheet of paper that the protagonist found unsigned in their drawer. And trade secrets are a fairly widespread concept, too. So judges wouldn't have a hard time believing that a reasonable person would recognise trade secrets in most cases.

griomnib• 2 years ago

Wasn’t the dock part of next step?

klntsky• 2 years ago

To tell a story about slapping a few desktop buttons in a way that makes it interesting to read is a talent

myvoiceismypass• 2 years ago

It seems sorta trivial at a surface level but we as developers are always standing on the shoulders of giants. What seems easy and simple was not always so without the tooling, compute, language advances, and knowledge sharing that we have today.

drummojg• 2 years ago

I feel this in my soul. I work in higher education, and every major contribution I've made has been ripped from my hands and either dashed like the first copy of the ten commandments or handed over to someone shinier. I'm still proud of all I've done.

leoc5• 2 years ago

Well, that seems to be a significant new insight into the mystery of what does or does not happen in Apple Cork https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42255412 .

nbzso• 2 years ago

This year, I push 50. Ideal time to start learning c/c++ and watercolor painting.

Don't limit your mind to a predefined timeline.

I have a friend, his grandfather 69, completed a law degree and opened an office.:)

P.S. The tech industry ageism is standard which must be outlawed. It is not objective and moves the industry in the wrong direction.

BLKNSLVR• 2 years ago

0 - yesterday: can't really remember but happy with whatever I did to get here.

Future: stay the course.

I've never much liked who I was yesterday, but I'm (almost) always happy with who I am right now.

Lammy• 2 years ago

I loved doing UI stuff, but somehow ended up working on a command line Mac OS X Server authentication component for At Ease that was to be used with a new line of diskless netboot computers that nobody had actually seen. It turned out I’d actually been on the iMac project all this time, and in the end they got hard drives.

Relevant: Macintosh Network Computer

— https://tedium.co/2018/04/12/larry-ellison-network-computer-...

— https://web.archive.org/web/20130603044116/https://sw.thecsi...

— https://web.archive.org/web/19961220160908/http://www.macwee...

— https://web.archive.org/web/19961220043823/http://www.macwee...

— https://web.archive.org/web/20000531132121/http://www.theapp...

“During a speech trumpeting the network computer for the Harvard Computer Society earlier in December, Larry Ellison, Oracle chief executive officer and Apple board member, responded to a question about Apple's role in the NC space.

Ellison said the Macintosh NC would be available in April, with a near-300-MHz processor and a 17-inch screen. The Mac NC will run on the Mac OS and cost less than $1,000, according to attendees. Ellison added that the NC would not ship with a hard drive, but one could be added to the unit for an additional $100. ”

kelnos3• 2 years ago

This is a fun story, but also just reminded me of how destructively eccentric Jobs could be. All the shenanigans to pretend the author lived in the US, flying him back and forth from Ireland, planning his interactions (or lack of interactions) with Jobs so the deception wouldn't be exposed, and everything. What a colossal waste of time, money, and stress just to cater to the ego of Steve Jobs.

And then they threw all that work away, seemingly mainly because it was done out of the wrong office. Presumably the final Dock that shipped was significantly different from the author's version, but throwing away all the code and doing a full rewrite is rarely warranted.

rob74• 2 years ago

I assume that the Cork development team was built up before Jobs took over, which also explains why they were all laid off shortly after the author quit. Jobs probably wanted to have all (significant) software development happening in Cupertino? If he were still around, he would probably hate home office/remote work and join Elon Musk in the "people can have all the home office they want as long as they work 40 hours per week in the office" camp...

leoc5• 2 years ago

One wrinkle here is that Jobs himself was by all accounts the person most responsible for Apple opening a Cork facility in 1980, and for whatever Apple and the Irish government promised each other as part of that deal. There's some indication that Irish governments were unhappy with what they got from it https://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/state-papers-... but it's hard to be sure exactly what happened there: Apple was probably not in the best shape to carry out ambitious relocation plans for much of the '80s, for one thing.

While I don't have boundless love for either Jobs or RTO mandates, and as an Irishman I would very much rather not see Cork getting the dirty end of the stick, I have to defend Jobs' desire for centralisation a bit here. There's considerable evidence that having nearly all the central product and design people within easy reach of SJ stalking around 1 Infinite Loop did in fact work very well for Apple in the second Jobs era. Maybe it was still a wrong decision, despite appearances, but you can hardly say that it was an eccentric one. (And in 2000 the tools for offsite or multi-site collaboration weren't even as not-entirely-great as they are now.) It was other people who brought in the madcap element of trying to hide things from the boss, not Jobs himself.

kergonath6• 2 years ago

Jobs probably wanted to have all (significant) software development happening in Cupertino?

Looks like it. There were still people working on iSync, iCal (and presumably software for the first iPhone) in an office in Paris. I think that ended in 2005.

eddieroger• 2 years ago

In an alternate and very charitable timeline, after being healed of his cancer by top doctors, Jobs grows greatly in love with science and medicine, and faced with the covid pandemic, makes Apple permanently remote work (with office option for those who want it), and donates sums of money to bootstrapping vaccine production for all the world.

A boy can dream.

pavlov3• 2 years ago

“how destructively eccentric Jobs could be”

I miss Steve Jobs. He was clearly an asshole at close range, but at heart he was a humanist and a bit of a hippie. He made money but also left the world a better place.

Such a massive difference to today’s crop of tech billionaires like Thiel, Andreessen and Musk.

SteveSmith163842• 2 years ago

History would suggest otherwise. Ripping Woz off springs to mind. And is giving the world expensive Apple products making it a better place?

Clubber2• 2 years ago

I mean electric cars, solar panels, and rockets so we don't have to rely on Russia to get to and from space ain't nothin'. Then there's that torch thing.

I can take or leave the other two. Netscape was pretty cool.

leoc5• 2 years ago

Jobs is on the whole probably better than the modern "tech right", yes, if only because supposedly he turned down opportunities to get seriously into politics. OTOH, who knows what kind of strange political or personal journey he might possibly have taken if he'd been around for the past decade and more. And in fact I think he may have contributed to the US getting where it is now in (at least) one significant way. By committing his options-backdating caper and then avoiding punishment for it he contributed to the feeling that the Special Boy is too precious to suffer criminal consequences for his actions, something which has likely had consequences for the later career of Musk in particular.

yapyap3• 2 years ago

don’t get me wrong Jobs definitely progressed the technology of that time by leading Apple but what exactly did he do to make the world a better place?

kelnos3• 2 years ago

I'm not sure I'm convinced that running a super-secretive company and building a locked-down status-symbol walled-garden product that takes way the "owner's" freedom to tinker with it pushes him in the "left the world a better place" column.

The iPhone and other Apple products are just that: products. There are not many products in history that I'd say made the world a better place. Certainly better-than-previously-available computers and phones wouldn't meet that bar for me.

Tell me about all Jobs' philanthropy and maybe I'll agree with you. But you can't, because Jobs ran what was once described as one of the least philanthropic companies operating, and Jobs' own philanthropic activities were either so secretive that we still don't know much about them, or (the more likely option) were more or less nonexistent.

I agree that Jobs was probably on the whole better than Thiel, Andreessen, or Musk, but IMO that's not saying much.

interludead4• 2 years ago

Maybe (I think so) it was more about aligning every detail with the standards Jobs had in mind...

yapyap3• 2 years ago

how destructively eccentric Jobs could be

last thing he destroyed was himself, by going the bonkers “alternative healing” route on cancer.

not saying he deserved it but he had an out and he chose to ignore it till it was too late, hard to feel sorry at all for him at that point.

also I heard he was a massive twat irl

euroderf2• 2 years ago

If he'd've gone into politics, the net total outcome could've been much much worse.

stonesthrowaway2• 2 years ago

last thing he destroyed was himself, by going the bonkers “alternative healing” route on cancer.

People who tend to go the "alternative healing" route usually do so because the traditional healing route hasn't worked.

he had an out and he chose to ignore it till it was too late

Did he? Guess you are the expert.

Cancer treatment isn't an exact science. Millions of people who go the traditional route die. It's always the know-nothings who talk with such confidence of absolutes.

also I heard he was a massive twat irl

Did you now? I guess it takes one to know one.

pxc• 2 years ago

last thing he destroyed was himself, by going the bonkers “alternative healing” route on cancer.

The tragic last act of Jobs' infamous reality distortion field

kernel_cat2• 2 years ago

I just hate the Dock. I wish there was a way to make it completely disappear. I have no need for it, everything I can do via Terminal/open, Spotlight, or cmd+tab app switcher. It's really annoying how baked into the OS it is.

Even trying to auto-hide the dock in new versions of MacOS is a huge pain in the arse.

LeoPanthera• 2 years ago

Right click the divider line > Turn Hiding On

kernel_cat2• 2 years ago

Not complete without setting the autohide delay which doesn't have a GUI option, need to set with a 3rd party tool or `defaults`.

rm445• 2 years ago

You all know the Dock, it’s been at the bottom of your Mac screen for what feels like forever (if you keep it in the correct location, anyway).

On a website with huge margins at the sides. I think the OSX Dock is a pretty good thing, but it makes so much more sense to keep it on the side of the screen and preserve vertical pixels. Unlike (some versions of) the Windows Taskbar, the icons are all square with no text, so you're not even sacrificing readability.

abroadwin• 2 years ago

I just set mine to auto-hide. Right now it's showing just shy of 30 icons, and I feel it really benefits from the additional horizontal width.

pavlov3• 2 years ago

"I was shown some prototypes and basically told that six people had seen it, and if it leaked they would know it was me that had talked"

This near-paranoid level of secrecy was because Apple leaked like a sieve in 1997 when Jobs returned as interim CEO.

There were sites like Mac OS Rumors that reported about internal meetings and projects in almost realtime. Nothing that was started before Jobs's return was secret. Leaking seemed to be part of standard office politics at Apple.

Jobs wanted to clamp down on that. Who knows if they actually had measures like described in the article (which suggests that every screenshot of Aqua carried a steganographic hardware id) but the threat worked.

The leaks were obviously bad for Apple, but as a teenager in my first tech industry job I found them fascinating reading. It was a rare insight into the inner workings of famous tech company in faraway California (even if it was the company that everybody in the media was convinced would be bankrupt in a year or two, but that just made the product drama more poignant).

MichaelZuo• 2 years ago

Yeah Jobs was probably afraid of anyone involved in sensitive stuff, not based in Cupertino, to be engaged in games or tricks like that. And they would be too far away to closely monitor.

lukeh2• 2 years ago

I remember an internal website (circa 1997) having the Mac OS Rumors logo with a big cross through it. :)

p_l2• 2 years ago

The mention of Finder being built with Carbon APIs using OS9 as dev environment makes me wonder if that's not why some Finder APIs in 2020 still used classic Mac pathnames (with colons as separators).

Had to find some gnarly AppleScript to convert pathnames when interacting with Finder

lukeh2• 2 years ago

I suspect using Carbon also helped shake out Carbon itself. Eventually the Finder was rewritten in Cocoa. Maybe one day it'll be rewritten in SwiftUI and some SwiftUI bugs will get shaken out ;)

p_l2• 2 years ago

Maybe one day it will stop using classic paths then...

fortunately I don't have to deal with it anymore ;3

nxobject• 2 years ago

I wonder as well how much the early Finders were platform-independent: are there builds that ran on MacOS 8, for example?

dwighttk• 2 years ago

Earn a penny Owe a dime…

pbrum• 2 years ago

The story is great on its own, but that ending was absolutely magnificent

julik• 2 years ago

I wonder how many HN readers remember what DragThing was and have used it... memories.

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