It’s time to admit that Remote Work doesn’t work

https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1663958149437743105

by lopkeny12ko • 3 years ago

13 21 3 years ago

I get it. If someone told you that you have to work an extra day or two a week, of course you’re not going to be happy about it. My message is for founders who are already working constantly and want to maximize their chance of success.

Guy in high profit position advocates for employee hours being closer to CEO hours.

No matching advocacy for employees getting near his level of pay, however.

user2492• 3 years ago

That's weird, I worked at home for 12 years in a small company. We wrote software that sold 2 million copies, but I guess it doesn't work

rcme2• 3 years ago

That doesn’t sound super successful.

Daishiman• 3 years ago

What have you built?

dafelst• 3 years ago

Depends how much they're selling it for, support contracts, etc. With the right combination of those, 2MM copies could be amazing.

user2492• 3 years ago

That was successful for the 80/90's and actually I mis-spoke, we sold a million and a million were estimated to be pirated

coldtea• 3 years ago

Compared to what? Do you think all companies are FAANG?

BulgarianIdiot2• 3 years ago

Palantir is valued billions and they've only sold a dozen copies of their software, so...

toadi2• 3 years ago

He talks about hybrid which I agree is shit. Too much juggling going on.

You either go full remote and organize yourself around async and better written communication. Or you all sit in the office the whole time and much of the comms is just talk. The in between sucks.

I worked full remote and it works fine. Teams were working well, information flowed, blockers were dealt with. We didn't even use our cameras in meetings. Now I worked for 1 month hybrid and am quitting. This has all the downsides from both remote and on site working.

MBCook• 3 years ago

We went all remote during the pandemic, now different people use all three options.

If you’re remote it works well enough.

If you have an office when you’re in the building it works well enough.

If you have to use the cubes it’s a disaster.

You can hear other people in Zoom meetings all day.

You can hear the other people in your Zoom meetings that are in the office twice.

Of course you may have trouble hearing your meeting anyway due to the other meetings, or people standing around talking.

You can’t grab a meeting room for just you. A bunch of people who are in the same meeting can use a meeting room’s conferencing setup. Unfortunately it works very poorly for people on both sides of the call.

Maybe it would be better with taller/bigger cubes. Or sound deadening foam. Maybe not.

Straight hybrid, without doing anything different to all in office, does not work. And I don’t think many companies would invest that kind of time/capital even if it would improve productivity.

toadi2• 3 years ago

Exactly... People sitting next to me ping me on team chat instead of talking.

Everyone zoom calls all the time where I can hear other people in other zoom meetings in our zoom meeting. I hate it.

when we worked full remote. We gave a stipend to setup with proper microphone/headphone setup. We requested people to sit in a quiet location for meetings. Worked wonderful...

this hybrid shit just makes everything much worse....

bigmadwolf• 3 years ago

This https://krisp.ai/ works well to overcome background noise and conversations during meetings. It cleans up the audio you send and also the audio you receive. Not affiliated with them at all, just a satisfied customer.

dylanhassinger• 3 years ago

My company does hybrid (for local folks) and full remote (for distributed folks, worldwide). Working great. David Sacks is the ultimate rich blowhard

garbagecoder• 3 years ago

NOOOOOOO you can’t just stop making work culture favor dark triad personalities and poltickers who advance on others work!!! How will people like me ever make it?

ciconia• 3 years ago

Remote is a great lifestyle, not a way to build a great company.

The two are not necessarily mutually-exclusive. What's wrong with scheduling interactions, or simply working asynchronously? Yes, it's a bit slower, but why do we need to rush all the time?

deserialized• 3 years ago

Nah it works fine, you just think culture happens by accident and that one solution has to work for everyone like most other sub-par managers do

BulgarianIdiot2• 3 years ago

He literally said remote... "work doesn't work". Do we comprehend how primitive the discussion level is here? I know it's twitter, but this is basically a parody of the debate around remote work.

Some jobs require isolation, some require interaction, most require switching between both in a semi-structured semi-stochastic manner, and we can't just decide "work doesn't work" without specifics like... what kind of work, and in what kind of organization.

This is just noise produced by stupid people trying to have a hot take on everything they barely understand. Like politics talk in a pub.

davibu• 3 years ago

It's time to admit that we don't need to work more than 3 days a week to be happy.

lisasays• 3 years ago

Said by someone who doesn't actually do the work.

It’s time to admit that Remote Work doesn’t work

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