Treasury Secretary Yellen says not all uninsured deposits will be protected

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/treasury-secretary-yellen-says-not-all-uninsured-deposits-will-be-protected-in-future-bank-failures/ar-AA18IgoZ#comments

by lp0_on_fire • 3 years ago

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mc32• 3 years ago

Keep them guessing and let some fail to keep them somewhat honest. Though looks like the right calls from the right people to the right people can make things happen.

slowmovintarget• 3 years ago

Provided the campaign contributions were substantial enough.

e67f70028a46fba• 3 years ago

It’s a big club, and you ain’t in it.

chomp• 3 years ago

*for future bank failures

missed that bit in the headline there. This makes sense because SVB had a liquidity issue, which is easy enough to clean up without getting your hands too dirty. Other banks may fail differently.

xiphias2• 3 years ago

If you increase interest rates so fast, liquidity issue gets systemic, everybody understands it.

If Credit Suisse can go down, any bank can go down.

OnlineGladiator• 3 years ago

If Credit Suisse can go down, any bank can go down.

Credit Suisse has been fucked for over a decade. Their stock has been tanking for 15 years. They're pretty much the poster child of a bank embroiled in scandals and somehow lose money at the same time. It's probably the worst bank to choose to represent a "healthy" bank.

dahdum2• 3 years ago

"I'm concerned you're ... encouraging anyone who has a large deposit at a community bank to say, 'we're not going to make you whole, but if you go to one of our preferred banks, we will make you whole.'"

"That's certainty not something that we're encouraging," Yellen replied.

They’re not encouraging people to act in their own self-interest while knowing full well that’s the reality they just created. I have to wonder where she tells her family and friends to bank?

whateveracct• 3 years ago

It's not a "reality" it's a leap so many HNers are making do to goldfish memories and lack of nuance.

dahdum2• 3 years ago

Could you explain further? By nuance do you mean the idea that they’re telling a “white lie” to keep smaller banks from overextending and intend to bail them out anyway? I do think that’s part of it, but it’s still going to cause capital flight.

mindslight• 3 years ago

Frankly they should be, as this is the de facto situation that has been created. Extend the FDIC's scope to all accounts. Create new tiers for larger accounts, with their own funds/levies based on their increased variance. Increase capital requirements on banks, and introduce criminal penalties for bank executives that blow through the capital buffer, lose customer deposits, and end up requiring the government backstop. The industry has created these entities that are too big to fail, it's time they were regulated as such.

VagueMag4• 3 years ago

In the United States before the mid-1930s, there used to be something called "double liability" where the equity shareholders of a bank could be assessed up to the par value of their stock holdings if the bank failed and needed money to pay depositors. I've always been curious but have never looked into the history of why it was ended at that particular time. Best guess is just that they were desperate to do anything to make it easier for banks to lend money in the 1930s. Or maybe the usefulness of the assessment was called into question when banks failed right after the horrendous liquidation of the Great Depression, and none of the bank shareholders had much of any real assets to assess.

standapart• 3 years ago

For some additional context, here is an excerpt from the hearing:

https://twitter.com/SeidlerCorp/status/1636518949872451584?s...

Here is my question:

Certain individuals have argued on HN that depositors of SVB should be made whole. For the most part, their arguments have not been based on systemic banking risk. Rather, their arguments have been based on the negative impact of employers suffering losses on uninsured deposits.

Would these same people argue that deposits of, say, community banks in Oklahoma be fully insured? Do they disagree with Yellen?

VagueMag4• 3 years ago

This is how things get handled when it's small Oklahoma farmers and their banks on the hook: https://www.farmprogress.com/marketing/taking-a-look-back-at...

jamesredd• 3 years ago

All uninsured depositors are equal, but some uninsured depositors are more equal than others.

pylua• 3 years ago

I honestly can’t believe that government agencies can operate in this broad scope without further checks and balances. It is ripe for corruption , favoritism, and elitism. The fed needs checks on its power.

This feels less like a free market and more like a game.

Treasury Secretary Yellen says not all uninsured deposits will be protected

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