230K Chinese “persuaded to return” from abroad to establish Extraterritoriality

https://safeguarddefenders.com/en/blog/230000-policing-expands

by walterbell • 4 years ago

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walterbell16• 4 years ago

Non-China cities with Chinese police stations include:

Amsterdam, Athens, Belgrade, Buenos Aires, Barcelona, Budapest, Dublin, Florence, Frankfurt, Glasgow, Lisbon, London, Madeira, Madrid, Milan, New York City, Paris, Porto, Prague, Quito, Rio de Janeiro, Rome, Sao Paulo, Slovakia, Stockholm, Rotterdam, Toronto, Tokyo, Valencia, Viña del Mar, Vienna.

https://jamestown.org/program/future-global-policeman-the-gr...

some countries where fugitives may have fled have either avoided signing extradition agreements with the PRC or have rescinded them following the introduction of the National Security Law to Hong Kong in 2020. These include Australia, Canada, Germany, Finland, Ireland, the Netherlands, the UK, and the United States.
..PRC authorities ..use alternative means to apprehend fugitives. “Persuasion” has become a common tactic, which human rights groups have called “involuntary returns.” Such returns are achieved by threats against family members in the PRC, directly approaching and intimidating the fugitive overseas, or outright kidnapping ..Involuntary returns ..comprise a mix of genuine criminal fugitives, officials who have fallen out of favor with the CCP leadership, and others pursued for their religious or political beliefs.

Earlier thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33049729

Amfy2• 4 years ago

I am surprised they are even allowed to "operate" in all these cities... especially the USA/Europe.

curiousgal• 4 years ago

Saudi Arabia funded 9/11, Israel shot an American citizen, the U.S. continues to operate as usual with those countries.

My point is that, politics is never about the people/victims.

chiph• 4 years ago

National law enforcement agencies often have reciprocity with foreign countries. For example, the FBI has offices in many countries to facilitate things like investigations and extraditions. The common name is "Legat" and they operate in cooperation with and at the pleasure of the host country.

https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/international-offices

It sounds like the Chinese police are operating like they're in their home country. Which they are not. Sooner or later, their activities are going to get them PNG'd (made Persona Non Grata) and they'll be asked to leave.

wil421• 4 years ago

The FBI has an office in Beijing. I’m doubting either government cares that much if they police their own citizens. It’s probably more complex with dual citizens. There’s so many people in each country there has to be some cooperation from time to time.

jollybean9• 4 years ago

It should not be surprising at all - you are 'allowed' to do what you have the power to do and get away with.

China speaks with one voice, Xi, everyone else a thousand voices. US has 10 000 people at least who make up the power of Xi. President, senator, CEO, senior bureaucrat, judge, heads of NGOs, Universities, police, military etc. all 'put in one group and coordinated with an ambitious 50 year plan' in the West. Even in a single country.

Europe, N. America, Japan, Korea, Australia have to partner with 'everyone else' in a comprehensive way to stand up to this. Trans Pacific was a big opportunity that Trump didn't have the foresight to grasp - he wanted to have 'unipolar power' in a world where the US just does not have the leverage it did after WW2 and no amount of 'wishing' or even exceptional leadership will change that. US could 'solve all it's problems' and it would still be the reality that % of global GDP would be declining because other nations are 'coming on line'.

Oddly, a panacea of 'other voices' may serve to counterbalance. Even if they are acting in self interest, to the extent they are not overrun by China, their own voices add up to something. We are seeing the beginning of that in Africa, with their stance on the Ukraine issue. While they should definitely be taking a more assertive stance via Russia, the fact they are where they are (and partly due to the fact Russia is their 'breadbasket') is an indication of coherent self interest on some level.

I don't think it's cause for world wide alarm, but there needs to be a plan.

kccqzy• 4 years ago

They are not "operating" in any official capacity. They are just there, doing their "persuasion." Remember the USA and Europe have good free speech laws that will protect those "persuasion."

Even with police cooperation agreements in place, they don't have the usual police power like arresting anyone.

A NYT article from back in 2016 says,

In 2014 […] That was the year the two countries signed a bilateral police cooperation agreement, the first of its kind between China and a European nation.
The Chinese officers do not have arrest powers in Italy, but they are paired with Italian officers who could arrest someone, except no arrests have been needed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/13/world/europe/chinese-poli...

Amfy2• 4 years ago

Also, one could imagine, these “Persuasion” tactics, might be more successful than, the Western approach of where extradition treaties exist. Putting social (family?) pressure on someone probably more likely leads to a person giving in, than just being exposed to legal pressure that possibly can't reach them.

walterbell16• 4 years ago

Westphalian nation states were established to supercede private armies of mercenaries. If societies now accept extra-legal methods of influence, as vividly illustrated on TV shows like The Sopranos, there will be many organized non-state actors lining up to join the party.

If citizens want a new legal category for extra-territorial operations, beyond extradition, this can be negotiated in a formal international treaty.

stjohnswarts• 4 years ago

Do you know if the families are punished (incarcerated?) in lieu of the AWOL citizen if they can't persuade their family member to come back home and face CCP "justice" ?

threeseed• 4 years ago

Note that in Australia I know first hand of Chinese university students having their families back home threatened due to them participating in protests.

I have no doubt that this is not just about criminal activity but any activity that the PRC does not approve of.

Kognito• 4 years ago

There was a similar situation during the pandemic in the UK, I know of individuals whose parents in the PRC were contacted by the authorities to “encourage” their kids studying abroad to stay abroad, lest they risk bringing covid back home.

MonkeyMalarky• 4 years ago

Similar to when a Tibetan student was elected to student council at U of T in Canada: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/china-tibet-student-e...

jollybean9• 4 years ago

It's common, in the open, and Western Governments are too afraid to do anything material about it. That tells you who has power.

It's bad.

ksec• 4 years ago

Well, any activity that the PRC does not approve of is criminal activity.

fennecfoxy2• 4 years ago

Additionally there was the video of that protest in Australia over China related stuff where Chinese people stepped in to assault the protestors.

VectorLock• 4 years ago

threats against family members in the PRC, directly approaching and intimidating the fugitive overseas, or outright kidnapping

Wow. Actual gangster tactics.

Phlarp• 4 years ago

When we do it: Realpolitik

When they do it: Gangsters

Scoundreller• 4 years ago

The Toronto one… seems like the CCP operatives absconded with the funding!

All were in areas with large Chinese populations, but no one The Globe spoke to was aware of a police service station or had heard of the Fuzhou Public Security Bureau. One address in Markham was a private home, while the other was a mall full of small Chinese businesses and restaurants. The third property, in a business park near a highway, is owned by the Canada Toronto FuQing Business Association, a federally incorporated non-profit.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-china-police-s...

GauntletWizard• 4 years ago

Almost equally likey are that one or all of those businesses are fronts or covers; it's not like the CCP wants to advertise the existence of these extraterritorial police stations to nosy journalists.

graderjs2• 4 years ago

Don't suggest Chinese police overseas are doing covert action. It's silly, those stations are there for helping Chinese tourists, because there are so many in those places.

If Chinese want to do covert action overseas they don't send police to do it I think... It would not be covert.

This mushing together is like a racist smear fear mongering. It's bad.

oivey• 4 years ago

That’s what consulates are. An actual police station is way different.

jccalhoun• 4 years ago

I"m not sure if this is directly related to this particular "initiative" by China or another one: https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/five-individuals-charged-vari...

NonNefarious3• 4 years ago

At a time when traditional American values are more desperately needed than ever around the world, they are dying right here in the USA.

Bakary4• 4 years ago

This is a confusion of cause and effect. The current crisis you are seeing is in part caused by this very same baked-in self-congratulatory mindset that permeates many American institutions and demographics

kelnos3• 4 years ago

That's... a bit of a weird thing to say. For one thing, this idea that our "American values" are so superior to everything else is an insult to a large part of the rest of the world that also has values that we'd consider positive and good. They didn't come by those values "because America" (ok, maybe a few did here and there, but that's far from universal).

For another thing, what "traditional" American values are you referring to, in particular? Slavery? Racism? Institutionalized oppression? Police brutality? The military-industrial complex? The prison-industrial complex -- the fact that we have such a high percentage of our population incarcerated? Our legally-enshrined puritanical fear of victimless "crimes" like smoking a plant? The disenfranchisement of the poor? Income and wealth inequality? The continued weakening of labor movements? A small but loud and influential contingent of religious nuts who seem to believe that their god should be calling the shots in our legal system (hypocritically many of the same people who have wrung their hands over "Sharia law")?

Sure, I'm focusing on the negative here, and as much as I'm a bit cynical these days, there is plenty of good to come out of our country, even today. But this whole "wave the flag", "everyone should be more like us" stuff is pretty gross and short-sighted. The better values "dying" of late bit may be true (or not, I don't know anymore), but also overlooks a lot of bad stuff that has been in our national DNA for centuries.

timeon• 4 years ago

... Sao Paulo, Slovakia, Stockholm, ...

Is Bratislava too small?

walterbell16• 4 years ago

Oops, I missed Bratislava, it's indeed listed in the table on p. 13, https://safeguarddefenders.com/sites/default/files/pdf/110%2...

Nowado• 4 years ago

Isn't Slovakia too much of a country?

yreg• 4 years ago

So how does this work? Police stations are bases of operation for policemen. And policemen are people who need to have a lawful authority for what they do. These folks roleplaying as policemen have no such authority.

So what do they do? I can't imagine they are detaining people, giving out fines, etc. So what makes them police? Shouldn't we call them spies instead?

worewood• 4 years ago

Yeah, agree completely. Shouldn't be called police station, more like a spy operations office.

netsharc2• 4 years ago

Makes me think of this[1].

I guess a bit like in the spy movies where American spies were free to roam everywhere, the superpower status (i.e. money and market access) of China means they get to swing their police truncheon around and most countries just stay quiet about it.

And they were even watching Xinjiang activists outside of China (Source [2]):

[...] one of the officers shoved a photo under my nose. It was my daughter Gulhumar. She was posing in front of the Place du Trocadéro in Paris, bundled up in her black coat, the one I’d given her. In the photo, she was smiling, a miniature East Turkestan flag in her hand, a flag the Chinese government had banned. To Uighurs, that flag symbolises the region’s independence movement. The occasion was one of the demonstrations organised by the French branch of the World Uighur Congress, which represents Uighurs in exile and speaks out against Chinese repression in Xinjiang.

The drily-written post only talks about telecommunications fraud. Is that a big deal in China, are they doing something like Nigerian 419 scams? I suppose they'd be targeting mostly Chinese citizens, using e.g. WeChat, although that's probably a bad idea because how much do you want to bet WeChat can report home the user's GPS coordinates or even just their IP would be enough for country geo-locating.

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/09/secret-deal-re... [2] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/12/uighur-xinjian...

miohtama• 4 years ago

Would China call any freedom of information and uncensored messages telecommunication fraud?

cyber_kinetist2• 4 years ago

It's interesting how the authorities of the US and China have a different view of how to control its populace through information.

China is all about the controlling the logistics of the flow of information, where the authorities need to crack down dissent that can impede the structural stability of the CCP. (Not all social criticism is censored, but the ones that directly criticize the party are.) Therefore they have done many things to shut down access to foreign sites, and created one of the biggest bureaucracies in the history of the world to search through the deluge of information on the domestic net to pick out which users and posts are deemed censorable. And it kinda works, but also kinda doesn't (If you have seen the memes and lexicon circulating in the Chinese nets, you'll understand what I mean instantly.)

Whereas the US authorities plays a much more smarter game: is all about tactics. Instead of controlling the flow of information in a top-down way, it lets them free, and then actively participates in it. While China focuses on removing the opponent's pieces on the chessboard, US focuses on adding their own: through its numerous media conglomerates and NGOs (which if you ultimately trace back its funding, all leads to one of the alphabet-named agencies or neoliberal thinktanks like the Ford Foundation or the RAND Institute). When you search a dissident figure in the Chinese net, all traces will be erased and you will find nothing. When you search a dissident figure on Google, you will be spammed with all the numerous media sites that try to mislead you in some way. (And yes, this also kinda works, but also kinda doesn't. But I see this as a more sophisticated strategy than what China is doing.)

qwezxcrty6• 4 years ago

It's possible given the Chinese government's proficiency in abusing terms.

But it seems for now mostly it's still about real crimes. Guys pretending to be from FedEx, saying your delivery have heroin in it, is seized and you need to pay a fine to get out of trouble. This may sound stupid to you, but anecdotally, one smart friend of mine doing physics PhD at MIT recently got tricked to pay ~$2000. BTW: a significant amount of those calls originated from Taiwan, easy to tell from the accent.

csa3• 4 years ago

It would not surprise me if a large part of this is not driven by an attempt to control the drug trade (e.g., opium) that flows through the golden triangle and southwest China. Note that this trade is huge and is a problem in China.

I don’t want to sound like an apologist (not a fan of this line of action for a number of reasons), but the focus on the nine forbidden countries (mostly in Southeast Asia) and the number of folks repatriated from those countries makes me think that this is not a small part of the motivation behind these actions.

walterbell16• 4 years ago

In that scenario, a public transparency report on involuntary returnee legal cases would be a good start.

csa3• 4 years ago

In that scenario, a public transparency report on involuntary returnee legal cases would be a good start.

Why would they do that?

I’m pretty sure that the powers that be in China don’t really care about the opinions of advocates of human rights, government transparency, etc.

They probably are also not keen on airing their dirty laundry with regards to the drug trade.

Chinese leaders pretty much double dog dare any country not to trade with them based on any set of principles, knowing that the other country will be the one that suffers the most. The US is maybe the only country that could stand up to China, but the US and China are in super weird but oddly balanced symbiotic relationship that would become mutually destructive if one side decides to force its will on the other.

mrjin2• 4 years ago

To be fair, have western media ever stopped trying to demonize the Chinese government, no matter what it did?

I thought I knew where Xinjiang was until I saw the CNN news regarding it with a map showing it in somewhere near Guangdong. Another example was the Chinese police event recorder version of the BBC interviews in Xinjiang.

Given such conditions, why would Chinese government give a f*ck about whatever it's doing? It will be attacked anyway, disclosing stuffs just open more attacking surfaces.

aaaaaaaaaaab• 4 years ago

e.g., opium

lol, are we back to the 19th century?

csa3• 4 years ago

lol, are we back to the 19th century?

Are you suggesting that the opium trade in the golden triangle and China is not a thing?

If it makes you feel better, we can call it heroin, which is derived from opium.

collegeburner2• 4 years ago

nope, a shitton of amphetamines and fentanyl that end up here poisoning our population start there. we should be at war with china the way she is doing this. over 100,000 a year from opioids alone. Australia getting hit with meth explosions in a similar manner. exporting drugs is china's sneaky way of weakening her competition.

mrjin2• 4 years ago

This is very unlikely related with drug trafficking but really to stop fraud activities.

The reason is really simple, crimes associated with drugs in China can lead to death penalties and the threshold is very low. So in most cases people caught with drug trafficking in China are popped, no matter of their nationalities.

Not sure if you guys ever received calls claiming that they were DHL/FedEx etc, and there was a package for you to pick up. More ridiculously, sometimes they even claim to be the Chinese Embassy and of course there was package for you to pick up.

So that was that.

dg7agffa52222• 4 years ago

Not sure if you guys ever received calls claiming that they were DHL/FedEx etc, and there was a package for you to pick up. More ridiculously, sometimes they even claim to be the Chinese Embassy and of course there was package for you to pick up.

Can you elaborate? this happened to my partner and we thought it was something targeted at Chinese foreigners. They were persistent and it was kind of worrying because my partner accidentally gave up a small bit of information before catching on that it was not legit. Are they trying to do identity fraud?

livueta• 4 years ago

Weird that this is downvoted; it is quite factual.

I think you're right about it being centered on Zomia:

The majority of identified targets were located in northern Myanmar.

but your specific example of the illicit trade is slightly off: aiui, the relevance of the golden triangle as an opioid producer has actually fallen off since the early 2000s as a result of DEA pressure and market shifts, but the slack was taken up by amphetamines (mostly ya ba).

https://www.unodc.org/roseap//en/2021/02/myanmar-opium-surve...

A new report from the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) confirms that production and demand for opium has further declined as the region’s synthetic drug market continues to expand and diversify.

That change in drug profile appears to also be true in Yunnan: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyt.2018.0025...

The prevalence rate of heroin use decreased from 0.67% (0.63–0.73%) in 2011 to 0.57% (0.53–0.61%) in 2015, while the prevalence rate of methamphetamine use doubled from 0.20% (0.17–0.24%) in 2011 to 0.48% (0.46–0.50%) in 2015.

However, you are absolutely correct that even accounting for trends, Burma is the source of most of both opioids and amphetamines: https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/a-peopl...

Myanmar is believed to be the single largest supplier of China’s drug market. In 2013, 92.2 percent of the heroin and 95.2 percent of methamphetamine seized in China were traced to Myanmar.

All that said, Chinese in northern Burma also tend to be associated with other rackets:

Solely in Wanding (畹町), a river port bordering Myanmar in Ruili city,Yunnan province, over 960 suspects of telecom fraud and over 100 suspects of cross-border gambling

Cross-border gambling is huge. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mong_La is basically a city-sized casino, built directly across the border from Yunnan (which is incredibly porous due to the terrain, so just clamping down on crossings doesn't work). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pangkham is the same deal but in Wa territory, not Shan.

The CCP really really hates cross-border gambling for a variety of reasons, including capital outflows and its nexus with domestic corruption:

https://agbrief.com/news/china/09/04/2021/chinas-cross-borde...

https://www.asgam.com/index.php/2022/02/17/china-vows-to-acc...

There's also a lot of jade/amber/wildlife smuggling but the gambling thing really is astonishingly huge business in northern Burma. So, I see it as a "yes, and": there's a lot of reasons why the CCP would want to crack down on the behavior of Chinese in northern Burma, and the drug trade is a plausible one.

dirtyid• 4 years ago

Variety of illegal activities, from illegal telefraud to gambling designed to circumvent PRC gaming laws. Philippines just agreed to deport 40000 chinese workers involved in offshore gambling. Lots of low level crime out there host country wants to sort out but no extradition treaty due to geopolitics. PRC's most wanted big fish list is like 20 people.

jopsen• 4 years ago

Using "persuasion" in quotation marks is perhaps too nice.

It's coercion, if not worse.

Not that there is much we can do about it. Though limiting ability of Chinese authorities to operate outside china is fair. After all we don't permit organized crime either.

motohagiography• 4 years ago

An example of mainland presence from one of the cities mentioned: https://nextshark.com/hong-kong-chinese-nationalists-superca... Imo, the laurentians area (ottawa/quebec) political class basically hates the rest of the country because we represent their parochial origins, and so they figure they can just import new constituents who can be more easily bribed or with special protections for their money, as a way to keep themselves in power, without having to listen to the constituents they imagine themselves as having transcended and left-behind. Something similar is likely true in other countries with these bases as well.

I can't believe that I can say without an ounce of hyperbole that our representatitives made a deal with the devil, and now they have communist party secret police bases in their cities.

jeromegv• 4 years ago

Canada made no special deal with “the devil” and the article you showed in no way demonstrates that.

All those secret polices offices in canada were visited by journalists and nobody was there. If China is sending spy, it’s definitely not under the agreement or through a special deal with the Canadian government.

You are imagining a lot of things.

glouwbug• 4 years ago

The amount of astroturfing on this site is incredible

pessimizer• 4 years ago

This entire NGO seems extremely suspicious. Here's the Swedish guy who runs it being interviewed by a friendly outlet: https://hongkongfp.com/2017/01/08/peter-dahlin-qa-the-swedis...

justusw• 4 years ago

Can you explain what’s suspicious?

cyber_kinetist2• 4 years ago

Not too sure about this one though... But the organization is too well aligned with American espionage goals to dismiss it as just a well-intentioned grassroots organization. Do you have any good pointers about how the org is being funded? (Usually the blatantly obvious ones have funding traces back to places like various alphabet-named agencies and other places like the Ford Foundation or the RAND institute.)

mannerheim• 4 years ago

Chinese agents have also been arrested in the US for this.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/03/16/...

sva_• 4 years ago

Since the end of November 2021, many notices have been issued to warn the Chinese public not to travel to nine countries with serious telecom and web crimes: Cambodia, the UAE, the Philippines, Thailand, Myanmar, Laos, Malaysia, Turkey and Indonesia. People who have no "strict necessity" or "emergency reason" to travel to or stay in those countries are required to return to China as soon as possible.

yogenpro• 4 years ago

As the report says:

a seemingly recent campaign to counter transnational telecom and online fraud (according to the official provincial statements)

The increase in telecom scamming activity is a real thing in China, with scammers operating from southeastern Asia countries. And operators are often Chinese citizens hired for what they originally thought would be "oversea job with good pay". The "persuaded to return" strategy might be targeted primarily at them.

Those scams are particularly bad -- maybe even worse than the telecom scams happening in the US and other wealthy English-speaking countries -- because taking personal loans is way too easy in China. A few clicks on a lender's app and you get cash transferred to your account instantly. And there are hundreds of such apps. Scammers can talk victims into maxing out their credit lines and wire the loaned cash away.

And the fact that there isn't "personal bankruptcy" laws in China also makes it worse. Such loans are rarely forgiven and victims often had to pay them off with their future income for years out of the fear that loan defaults can affect their credit score for life.

So I guess this is Chinese police's way of "do something about it". Of course they don't have jurisdiction overseas and should have gone with Interpol and/or local police first, except that hasn't been very effective. My 2 cents on the reasons behind this is:

1. Local police might be paid off;

2. No incentive for local police to prioritize their resource for cases like this -- there were no victims in their own countries;

3. There are just too many scammers;

Surely once this set up is in place it's possible to extend its coverage to harass/"persuade" political dissidents but CCP has already be doing it for years without it. If this oversea police "persuasion" program is getting local law enforcement's attention to the point that they can arrest both them and the scammers, I would see it as an absolute win.

anovikov• 4 years ago

Time and again we see how every dictatorship eventually becomes a snake eating it's own tail, and succumbs to self-inflicted wounds... How can they probably hope to build an advanced society treating their people like that? It will only push Chinese emigres abroad to break every tie with their home country, including relatives that stayed behind, reducing any positive impact on homeland of those people learning things and making money abroad.

DisjointedHunt• 4 years ago

People in the West rarely get to encounter situations such as these that make me thankful every day for the imperfect heaven we live in.

This is a daily experience for the families of those 230k. Imagine the horrors the families in places like Xinjiang are going through. Even if a small portion of these reports is factual, we're talking rape, torture, organ harvesting, despicable acts against human life everywhere.

What we have in the west isn't perfect, but God am i thankful to not have my family denied education or other social essentials because i decide to speak my mind.

walterbell16• 4 years ago

thankful to not have my family denied education or other social essentials because i decide to speak my mind

Ongoing vigilance is essential to preserve these freedoms, as evidenced in the recent US DOJ prosecution of eBay executives for intimidation of a journalist, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33049853

A former eBay Inc. executive was sentenced on Thursday to almost five years in prison for leading a scheme to terrorize the creators of an online newsletter that included sending live spiders, cockroaches, a funeral wreath and other disturbing deliveries to their home.

throwamon• 4 years ago

Almost five years? Wow, I'm sure he'll come out of it a better, de-psychopathized man.

Your example only shows what a joke the system we live under is and what ridiculous lengths we go to justify it.

rmbyrro• 4 years ago

I've heard of a LOT of people in the West who lived during the 1940's and wouldn't agree so much with your perspective.

asdfasgasdgasdg• 4 years ago

Yeah, but the person you're replying to is talking about people who live in the west today, not three quarters of a century ago.

powerapple3• 4 years ago

In many cases, the families of some criminals are enjoying the benefit of the crimes. Actually that's how people from a same village can all go abroad participate in telecom scam activities. They see someone worked abroad and made a lot money, built a new house. The degree of such activities has became a major issue in China, that's why the whole operation was needed.

What's worse now is that there are areas in southeast Asia and Africa have became a hotbed for kidnapping, Chinese citizens being lured abroad, kidnapped, slaved. If you read Chinese, go on Telegram, you see people being sold all the time.

walterbell16• 4 years ago

If you read Chinese, go on Telegram, you see people being sold all the time.

Has there been an effort by Telegram to shut down accounts/communication related to human slavery?

flerovium• 4 years ago

Is this actually true? It says there is a chinese police station in NYC. Where? I looked at the NGO's pdf and didn't see an address.

It's unclear exactly what having a "police station" means. Has the NGO reported the CCP taking actions in foreign countries against Chinese nationals? The stories are all about getting at them by threatening family in China.

230K Chinese “persuaded to return” from abroad to establish Extraterritoriality

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