The Eyes Have It (1953)

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by uejfiweun • 5 years ago

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eatonphil• 5 years ago

I've read Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep, A Scanner Darkly, and a collection of his short stories and while he's a very good author, I just find the spirit of his work so depressing. I don't want to read more.

Beltiras3• 5 years ago

VALIS is a full-fledged acid trip. There are pages where the narrative changes perspective so harshly it can break your brain. Recommend the trip regardless.

Trasmatta7• 5 years ago

Not to mention the additional level introduced by the fact that VALIS is pseudo-autobiographical.

e.g., remember when Horselover Fat gets beamed secret information from a faraway satellite through a pink light to his forehead? Or when he learns we are secretly still living in first century Rome? Both things that PKD actually believed happened to him.

The lucidity with which PKD explored his mental illness in VALIS is pretty extraordinary.

KingFelix• 5 years ago

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anyfoo• 5 years ago

Yeah. Reading Ubik was fascinating, and somehow tortuous, at once. "Fever dream" came to mind.

duxup2• 5 years ago

I’m kinda burned out on dystopian everything.

csdvrx• 5 years ago

Same. I am now watching Stargate. My mom used to watch so I didn't because I didn't want to be like her (ahh, kids... :)

But it's very Star Trekky, full of hope of "doing better" even when failing at times, and much unlike everything else I've watched! And I love it!!

fennecfoxen• 5 years ago

Writing good utopian works is really hard!

WesternWind• 5 years ago

You might enjoy solarpunk then. It's basically sci-fi about working for a better brighter future more beautiful future where human agency matters.

gloriana• 5 years ago

Living in Dick's world makes his work have a bad taste.

JohnJamesRambo• 5 years ago

It just seems like what is actually happening, the future we are getting. Mix in some Idiocracy and Infinite Jest and the Year of the Trial-Size Dove Bar and that’s what we have.

audiometry• 5 years ago

Yeah, and don't forget William Gibson-style mega-corps that are almost uncontrollable sovereign entities at this point.

Kye• 5 years ago

Reality copied his worlds and now they seem overwrought. Just like how Tolkien made all kinds of stuff everyone copied, and now you get people with no historical perspective calling him a hack for being derivative.

Like most famous sci-fi writers, Phillip K. Dick likely worried about the things he wrote about and hoped technologists would take it as advice against when faced with the same choices as the people in the stories.

Trasmatta7• 5 years ago

He was a depressed and haunted man, and almost certainly suffering from an undiagnosed mental illness. Those aspects of himself were reflected in his works. Writing was a deeply personal thing for him, which you can see especially in The Exegesis (a collection of his journals published after he died, where he continuously grapples with the slipperiness of reality, the dark edges of his mind, and the absurdity of existence, just like his characters).

One of the most fascinating writers in history, I think, but can definitely be depressing to read sometimes.

mpreda• 5 years ago

"A Scanner Darkly" is dedicated to his many close friends that suffered or died as a result of drug use. I think there is this heartbreaking dedication at the end of the novel, with the names of his friends and how they ended.

Yet the book is full of subtle humor, and a profound understanding of individuals' tragedy at the same time.

There is a great movie made after the novel, with the same name. The movie does capture the spirit of the book, even as switching the medium, a noteworthy achievement.

elmomle• 5 years ago

The book in particular really opened my mind to the idea that illicit drug economies and anti-drug police activity are ultimately symbiotic, forming a system that consumes lives. And nothing else that I've read has conveyed so vividly the confusion and powerlessness one can feel in a life of addiction to hard drugs, caught up in that system.

robocat2• 5 years ago

Here is the dedication: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29642422

throwawayboise• 5 years ago

The Crack In Space is the only Phillip K Dick book I have read. I found it on a bookshelf when I was maybe in middle school or early high school. I don't remember much about it, so I guess I did not find it memorable.

SavantIdiot• 5 years ago

I made a spreadsheet of all of his books, and read everything my library had, which was about 70% of them. His early stuff is shlocky and gets tedious by the 10th book from that era. About 20% of his stuff is truly groundbreaking, the rest is ... boring.

the_af2• 5 years ago

I just find the spirit of his work so depressing

I don't. I think he paints up depressing worlds often, but there's also a spirit of perseverance, of ingenuity, of "life goes on". His characters are occasionally soldiers, but more often workers and everyday people doing their things. In a Nazi alt-history dystopia, he takes the time to explain how an antiquarian earns his living. [1]

In some dystopia were mankind loses a war against aliens, he makes the aliens sympathetic enough to give the remaining humans a fiction to believe in that will make them want to keep on living. The aliens are also quite forgiving and want to rebuild Earth after the war. [2]

When robots take over humanity, hidden in underground caves after a terrible war between the East and the West Blocs, they are actually hiding the fact they rebuilt the world and it's green and healthy, ready for us to re-enter it. [3]

When an alien invader supplants the horrible husband of the woman protagonist, she finds the alien is actually loving and caring, and prefers it to her husband. [4]

When a (possibly deranged) dog sees threats to the family it loves in everyday things, like the milkman or the garbage truck "stealing their garbage", it does this out of love and fierce loyalty -- however misplaced. [5] (or is it..?)

When an authoritarian interstellar military force wants to punish Earth for having ruined it all, those cheeky earthers invent an elusive rebel leader, Benny Cemoli, and pin all the blame on him; keeping the military force occupied chasing ghosts seemingly forever. [6]

When an underhanded authoritarian government is shaping up covertly in Callisto, Earth agents find the way to dismantle it -- and in the process, PKD shows his vision that there's no concept as absurd and easy to subvert as the concept of "a just war". The good guys win though. [7]

I agree PKD often imagined visions of dystopian hell, but he just as often offered nuggets of hope and everyday life. A bit like Bradbury, only more surreal.

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[1] "The Man in the High Castle"

[2] "Precious Artifact"

[3] Can't remember the title of this one, sorry

[4] Also cannot remember the title. It was included as an episode of PKD's Electric Dreams.

[5] "Roog"

[6] "If there were no Benny Cemoli"

[7] "The mold of Yancy"

abecedarius2• 5 years ago

3: the penultimate truth

n4r9• 5 years ago

I used to have this perspective, but then I read a quote or excerpt in which PKD says he was surprised that people find his work hopeless or depressing, because he intends his work to be hopeful.

I reflected on this and realised that he's right. In his stories the hero often courageously penetrates through the facade and gets to the truth of things. What's more, there is generally an objective truth underneath the facade. It's not turtles all the way down. There is a reasonable explanation and once the hero figures it out they manage to take some control of their own destiny.

jtbayly• 5 years ago

Similar conceit to The Secret Life of James Thurber in which he makes fun of Salvador Dali’s autobiography.

Very funny and worth reading in the New Yorker archives if you have a subscription.

kinghtown• 5 years ago

Philip K Dick is my favourite author. I’ve read Joyce, Faulkner, Nabokov, Pynchon, McCarthy, Gaddis, Beckett.. like I’m pretty familiar with classics and literature and have read loads of SF as well, but PKD remains my #1.

xtalx• 5 years ago

Ditto, The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch is my favorite book.

Trasmatta7• 5 years ago

The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch also gets the distinction of being one of the all time best names for a book

Trasmatta7• 5 years ago

He's one of my favorites as well.

The best description of his over arching theme that I've heard was: he explored the slippery nature of reality.

Sure, he explored technology, the future, dystopias, and a number of other things. But the one concept he seemed to continue to return to was the idea that you can never truly know what's actually going on.

bsenftner• 5 years ago

Similar admiration of PKD. I used to be an "addict literature reader" and have read most the books in the Classics section of a typical library. PDK is one of my top five authors, an author I've "finished" - read everything they published, and my favorites of his multiple times. I rank him with Joyce, Pynchon, Burroughs, and Hesse - the others in my top 5.

malandrew• 5 years ago

The Hanging Stranger is also an excellent read and poignant in today's world:

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/41562/41562-h/41562-h.htm

uejfiweun• 5 years ago

Honestly, practically everything from the Phillip K. Dick reader is a gem. Other favorites of mine include Fair Game, The Golden Man, Tony And the Beetles, Foster You're Dead, War Veteran, The Chromium Fence, and Second Variety. Truly crazy how ahead of their time some of these concepts were for the 1950s. (Of course, The Eyes Have It is just more of a little joke.)

saucymew• 5 years ago

Ubik was still the most wild story I’ve read from Phillip K. Dick, more than his usual reality-bending stuff like Scanner or Three Stigmata.

codezero3• 5 years ago

I was very very into PKD at one point, so much so that I had been in correspondence with his wife about rare books. I say this to convey ersatz authority on the subject, and I 100% agree with this comment. Ubik is fantastic, and quite hard to read. I’ll add a few more bangers, Flow My Tears, Radio Free Albemuth, Dr. Bloodmoney, and The Zap Gun.

ncmncm3• 5 years ago

I persist in remembering The Zap Gun as being about a gun that, when the trigger is pulled, makes whatever it points at never to have existed. No one ever knows why they just used it.

But I also believe that isn't what it was at all, but cannot bring to mind what it really did.

zabzonk2• 5 years ago

Zap Gun is a great title, and a pretty good idea, but IMHO one of PKD's poorer novels.

gidorah• 5 years ago

Whilst reading Dr. Bloodmoney I had an eerie feeling that I had read some of those exact passages before. I was certain I had not read Dr. Bloodmoney. I had a true Dickian experience of questioning reality.

It turns out I forgot I read A Terran Oddessy...

Trasmatta7• 5 years ago

He felt all at once like an ineffectual moth, fluttering at the windowpane of reality, dimly seeing it from outside.

This quote from Ubik perfectly reflects how I feel on a regular basis.

Reality is weird. What's even going on here, anyway? Perhaps we should just put our faith in Ubik. It's safe when taken as directed, of course.

squeaky-clean3• 5 years ago

I really loved reading Ubik. I seriously had trouble putting it down. But when I got to the ending. Well... I don't want to spoil anything but, is it just me or does it not make any sense if you really think about it? I did some research into the ending and the most satisfying conclusion I found was that was just the PKD surrealist style? Ubik is the only book I've read by him.

Trasmatta7• 5 years ago

Well... I don't want to spoil anything but, is it just me or does it not make any sense if you really think about it?

That's essentially the point of the ending, yeah. Well, less so that "it doesn't make sense" and more "actually, it's entirely unclear what is even going on".

Reality is slippery -- at the very moment you think you've got a grip on what's going on, it jumps out of your hands.

You'll see this same theme reflected in many of his other books, if you end up reading and more.

isoprophlex• 5 years ago

It's a recurring theme, and IMO one of his strengths. Once the characters find out about the malleability and subjectivity of reality, or once they enter some drug trip, they are never again sure if they've properly returned.

Dick was a fantastic writer. Noone can alienate me like he can.

bryanrasmussen3• 5 years ago

I don't want to spoil anything but, is it just me or does it not make any sense if you really think about it?

Most fiction doesn't make any sense if you really think about it, much less Science Fiction, much less Science Fiction in which Reality mutates unrecognizably several times in the course of the book.

zabzonk2• 5 years ago

I first read Ubik while on a coach (next to the loo) driving down from Edinburgh to London whilst suffering from from sleep deprivation and travel sickness - it made a lot of sense to me at the time! Almost as much as reading the Illuminatus trilogy when I was bed-ridden with a terrible dose of flu!

But seriously, Ubik is a great book - one of Dick's best.

Finnucane2• 5 years ago

You might take some comfort that the ending works a little differently in the screenplay version PKD wrote later so that it makes more conventional 'sense'. Even the author had second thoughts about it. Whether it's really better that way is a debatable point.

erwincoumans3• 5 years ago

Ubik is a good read, while dining at the restaurant at the end of the galaxy.

rukuu001• 5 years ago

Yeah, most PKD stories have that ‘reality slipping sideways’ moment in them, but reality never settles at all in Ubik

finikytou• 5 years ago

I read ubik early in my science fiction journey and found it very bad. I read 200 sf books and then opened ubik again years later. This is the die hard of science fiction. a fantastic book like no other in SF but that takes all its greatness once you get to know better SF.

guareber8• 5 years ago

That's gotta be VALIS for me.

erwincoumans3• 5 years ago

That story hit the nail on the head!

DaiPlusPlus2• 5 years ago

I read it, but I don't understand it - at all.

So... it's a short story about a man recounting a book he read that claims aliens are invading the earth while describing a selfless alien woman who donates her body-parts to other people and the story ends with him playing Monopoly... I don't see a story here.

I know Philip K. Dick is a celebrated author, so I assume my not-getting-it problem is all-me - can someone please explain it to me?

Trasmatta7• 5 years ago

The book isn't about aliens, it's an entirely normal book. The main character just interprets every phrase relating to a body part literally, and thinks it's talking about aliens. It's just a humorous short story, not a whole lot to it beyond that.

erwincoumans3• 5 years ago

If you take English language literally, it becomes alienating. Now take the nail out of that head!

anonymous_i2• 5 years ago

same here LOL.

Here's my trippy understanding.

I had had enough of the thing. I want to hear no more about it. Let them come on. Let them invade Earth. I don’t want to get mixed up in it.
I have absolutely no stomach for it.

The author is finally mutated and someone took his stomach as well ?

He did not realize it because, someone stole his brain ?

shermablanca• 5 years ago

Don’t read it so literally. Lots of ways to interpret it. Cultural relativism, correlation vs causation, overconfidence, conclusions in isolation, etc. I think it drags in just a bit too long but it did make me chuckle.

andi999• 5 years ago

He is nitpicking in a funny way that the word 'eyes' was used when 'gaze' was meant.

kwelstr• 5 years ago

Philip K. Dick is having a little fun with a badly written paperback story or novel he must have found somewhere, and writing a cool science fiction story out of it. It is humor.

From the preface: "A little whimsy, now and then, makes for good balance. Theoretically, you could find this type of humor anywhere. But only a topflight science-fictionist, we thought, could have written this story, in just this way…."

nevster• 5 years ago

If you like this, have a look at some issues of the Ansible fanzine - https://news.ansible.uk/ - in particular the section titled Thog's Masterclass.

The latest issue has this sterling example : "I nodded at her and walked toward the suite door, feeling her eyes like ice cubes sliding down my back all the way out."

ZeroGravitas• 5 years ago

Standard ebooks has a nice collection of his out of copyright short stories, including this one:

https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/philip-k-dick/short-fictio...

OscarCunningham• 5 years ago

I wrote to the Government, and they sent back a pamphlet on the repair and maintenance of frame houses.

I don't get this. Is this some other misunderstanding by the character?

scandox• 5 years ago

He's poking fun at government bureaucracy. You tell them there's an alien invasion and they send you their latest helpful brochure. In other words totally ignore you and instead perform some default function.

mro_name• 5 years ago

how do you folks read that – what ebook reader & setup do you use? Does even somebody print on demand?

Update: uh, just saw it's so short.

dunefox• 5 years ago

I buy books.

keiferski• 5 years ago

I dropped my Kindle in water a few months ago and picked up a new Kobo to replace it. Pretty happy with it (and it's supposedly waterproof too) although the plastic does feel cheap sometimes. The ability to add books via drag-and-drop (like a regular USB drive) is super helpful. Otherwise I also recommend using Calibre for book management.

mmcdermott• 5 years ago

I bought an off-brand eink reader (there are a number of them, but I got a Boyue Likebook and run KOReader on it) and load Project Gutenberg books through Calibre.

nahuel0x• 5 years ago

This can easily be a realistic description of a paranoid schizophrenic train of thought. It is interesting to contemplate Dick had a psychotic event in 1974 but this text is from 1953.

fbn79• 5 years ago

Not expert in project Gutenberg here. Does anyone has the right to translate in other langues and resell it?

Freak_NL• 5 years ago

Only in jurisdictions where copyright has expired. For most works, just assume that it is copyrighted somewhere and that you need to figure out how and where before you derive your own work (e.g., a translation) from it.

Project Gutenberg will give you some hints to its status, but it is not exhaustive:

This etext was produced from Science Fiction Stories 1953. Extensive research did not uncover any evidence that the U.S. copyright on this publication was renewed.

That is, there is always a risk that some troll will pop up one day claiming it holds the copyrights for a certain work. If you are not backed by a publisher who can handle the legal stuff, than your safest bet it to stick with much older works (generally pre-1900, but weird exceptions seem to exist in some countries). If you are only concerned with US law, pre-1926 is safe.

jyriand• 5 years ago

There are set of authors/artist who rely heavily on their "visions" and use these as a source materials. Philip K. Dick is one of these visionaries(Exegesis, VALIS). Also some other that come to mind are William Blake, Carl Gustav Jung(Seven sermons to the dead, Red book). Maybe even Robert Anton Wilson with his Cosmic Trigger book.

shkkmo• 5 years ago

I wouldn't really say that Philip K. Dick relied heavily on his visions.

He was a prolific writer well before he had his visions. You could say he used visions as source material, but I think it is more accurate to way the he used writing to try to make sense out of his visions.

2-718-281-828• 5 years ago

Noooo! - The Nose Have It, The Nose Have It!

cosmojg• 5 years ago

Ha! That last sentence slaps.

The Eyes Have It (1953)

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