First dump of Anon BofA Documents is up

by count • 15 years ago

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mixmax• 15 years ago

Well, not quite: "The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later."

Osiris• 15 years ago

Both the main site and the link to the mirror site posted earlier are both offline.

EDIT: nm, got through on the coral cache site.

jarin• 15 years ago

Cached version since it's spotty:

http://bankofamericasuck.com.nyud.net/03/13/ex-bank-of-ameic...

invertedlambda• 15 years ago

My browser is giving me a phishing warning for this link?

fooandbarify3• 15 years ago

Because a phishing page is basically just a mirror. No successful phishing can really occur unless you provide the page with information, though, so as long as you don't fill in any forms or download any weird applets you should be okay.

(The linked URL was, when I checked, a legitimate and non-malicious mirror of the original.)

EDIT: Obviously a phishing page is not a proper mirror - but they both share the attribute of being very similar to another page, and with "name.tld" as a sub-domain it makes sense that a browser might incorrectly label a mirror as a phishing page.

kronusaturn• 15 years ago

It's from the Coral Cache, which as far as I know is a legitimate and useful service.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coral_Content_Distribution_Netw...

zaidf• 15 years ago

Wait, is this from Anon or Wikileaks?

georgieporgie• 15 years ago

Anon. Edit: Actually, as I understand it, one guy who claims to be associated with Anonymous.

burgerbrain• 15 years ago

"one guy who claims to be associated with Anonymous."

Which in reality could be snipped to "one guy", and not lose any real meaning.

harshpotatoes• 15 years ago

What's the difference? I thought anybody could claim to be from Anonymous, and merely making this claim automatically makes this true.

davidu2• 15 years ago

Just read though it all. So far, this is unimpressive and not really indicative of any serious criminal activity.

And here's the torrent: http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6241472

cookiecaper• 15 years ago

I seriously hope that there's a lot more stuff coming out, because this would be a truly useless thing to spend the rest of your life in court, litigation, judgments, repayments and debts, etc. for.

dsplittgerber2• 15 years ago

I think opinions may differ regarding whether or not that's criminal activity.

See argument here: http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/g3hgw/bank_of_amer...

The guy who leaked this information is a former employee of BofA. Since his firing BofA has ruined his life/credit/relationships and he will probably be in court for the rest of his life.

Bank of America made a lot of errors with their loan adjustments due to not updating and/or staying on top of things and subsequently forclosed a lot of homes that should not have been forclosed on. So the emails you see at the bottom of the page are BofA execs asking for the removal of certain DTN records from their Databases (from what i understand DTN's are like information records). The reason they are doing that is because they are being audited, and when the auditors look up the loans that should be tied to those DTN's and find that there is no existing DTN record, they will discount it as a system error and move on. The result of this "deleting of DTN's" was some $60B worth of fraud on the part of Bank Of America in order to cover up the mistakes they made during the housing crisis.

These emails are just the first ones released, but they are clearly TO and FROM BofA execs, asking for the deletion of DTN's from the system and even a response from one exec saying, "Are you sure we can do this"??

jrockway2• 15 years ago

Since his firing BofA has ruined his life/credit/relationships and he will probably be in court for the rest of his life.

I'd really like to hear more, as I'm having trouble understanding what they could do other than take him to court for stealing documents or whatever. Specifically, how did they ruin his relationships? Do they call and hang up when his girlfriend answers? Do they call his friends claiming to be him, impersonating his voice, and saying things like, "you know, your feet really smell"?

michaelcampbell3• 15 years ago

> subsequently forclosed a lot of homes that should not have been forclosed on

I don't understand this bit; what, other than non-payment of mortgage, makes a house a "should have been foreclosed on" as opposed to "should NOT have been foreclosed on"?

retrogradeorbit• 15 years ago

There is mountains of evidence of serious criminal activity on the public record without any need to resort to leaks. The problem is not lack of evidence. The problem is lack of prosecutorial action by the state.

anonymoushn3• 15 years ago

I want to upvote this more than once.

Stormbringer• 15 years ago

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

yummyfajitas6• 15 years ago

Could you link to some of the public records proving criminal activity?

wladimir• 15 years ago

The thing that is impressive to me is how many things are accepted and not considered 'serious criminal activity' these days. Fraud and other white collar crimes aren't even considered criminal anymore since the crash in 2008. We're in a perpetual state of 'look the other way, nothing happening here'.

jcromartie2• 15 years ago

For example: blow the whistle on the largest tax evasion scheme in history: go to jail. Participate in largest tax evasion scheme in history: no problem.

davidu2• 15 years ago

There is literally nothing in what he released that is obviously illegal to me. He says a bunch of it is illegal, but I'm no lawyer and it looks like one person just deleted a bunch of data and another person asked if that was really kosher and we don't know what happened after that.

I'm just not jumping to conclusions I'm not qualified to make. It's impressive to me, that you can do that.

rbarooah• 15 years ago

Yeah - it's ok for banks to engage in minor frauds - only really serious ones matter so we should ignore this. After all isn't everyone entitled to a little fraud now and again?

phoenix24• 15 years ago

The website seems to be already overloaded with traffic.

I get "503 : Service Temporarily Unavailable"

sixtyby3• 15 years ago

Try refreshing the page. I've gotten the images to load by opening it in multiple tabs. Usually one of those requests will go through.

But it also means overloading an already overloaded server with more requests.

fooandbarify3• 15 years ago

I opened the page with the intention of mirroring it, but I decided there was not any information worth spreading.

wbhart• 15 years ago

I thought BoA bought up all these domain names. How does anonymous have it?

How can we verify this is legit?

The primary domain is registered to James somebody, email address Nope@gmail.com, which doesn't exactly look like valid info.

shadowpwner2• 15 years ago

See the reddit link up above. I don't see anything wrong with the email nope@gmail.com.

haribilalic• 15 years ago

It's not a valid Gmail address. Gmail usernames are between 6 and 30 characters (excluding periods).

fooandbarify3• 15 years ago

This is just a disgruntled former employee complaining about the common (legal) business practices of large corporations. Am I missing something?

chr15• 15 years ago

This is the first thing I thought of as well. Sounds like a normal corporation to me.

pyre• 15 years ago

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2321632

flashingleds• 15 years ago

The presentation threw up some suspicion alarms (in a similar way to the Journal of Cosmology for the recent meteor paper), it reads like some kind of weird stream-of-consciousness. I guess I'll reserve judgement until somebody a) I've heard of b) presents it logically.

bgentry• 15 years ago

Nothing to see here. Hopefully this is just setting the stage for what's about to be released, but nothing in this first batch is in any way shocking or concerning.

ibejoeb• 15 years ago

The trail stops as soon as the internal confrontation begins. If it's real at all, how are we to know that it didn't end there?

It's just not thorough. This better be just the tip, because I think it's more damaging to the credibility of this leaker than anything else.

tuhin• 15 years ago

503: Service temporary unavailable!

efnx• 15 years ago

Just keep hitting refresh.

corin_• 15 years ago

Yep, that's the best solution when a website is going offline due to high traffic. Keep kitting refresh.

ericmsimons2• 15 years ago

I feel like this wasn't a great time to announce the BofA leaks with Japan in absolute chaos...they would have had better impact in a few weeks.

yardie2• 15 years ago

Why not? It's not like the US SEC is pitching in with JDF and the Red Cross. Hopefully, they start and investigation now and in a few weeks, or months, charges will be brought.

I'm fairly certain people can handle more than disaster porn at any given moment.

icegreentea• 15 years ago

No, they can't. Or at least, the US mass-media can't.

ericmsimons2• 15 years ago

I'm sure people CAN handle it, but if everyone wasn't flipping out about Japan (for good reason) there would probably be a lot more emphasis on the BofA stuff.

Ex: Go to CNN.com. What's splashed all over the front page right now? Can you find even one link to an article about the BofA leak?

aidos3• 15 years ago

Any idea why most of the images are in the uploads/2011/01 folder and some are in the uploads/2011/03 folder? Probably nothing of course...

DCoder2• 15 years ago

Draft post was written back in January, probably, and the files in /03 were only added recently. Wordpress can split uploaded files into this folder structure automatically based on upload time.

aidos3• 15 years ago

But that's the bit I find strange. The datestamps in the images would suggest that the conversation took place recently (march). The wordpress splitting suggests this is not the case.

shareme• 15 years ago

Let me explain something:

I used to work as a jr accountant when my 2 year degree in CS and Business was first granted for a Home Health firm non profit that received funds from the state and federal governments.

As it was explained to me at the time by a lawyer when I discovered some financial fraud with those state funds at the firm I was employed by..you cannot keep it a secret and expect the state not bring a case against you when they find out as its criminal activity.

This ex BOAf employee is damned if he or she does or not as the state might bring a case against the ex employee when they discover the criminal activity or BOAF makes his or her life hell when they are exposed.

tybris• 15 years ago

The public already knows banks are evil. If you have evidence, go to court.

S_A_P• 15 years ago

If the allegations that BOA destroyed this guys life and made him a "terrorist" are true, then that is sad. However, I dont know that I can trust the motives of someone who would still be working there if they hadnt personally attacked him.

Maybe there is a link- I couldnt see all of the screenshots to be sure. But the emails I saw were a bit paranoid sounding for me.

binarymax• 15 years ago

Made it half way though and the server went cold. Is there a text transcription of the email screenshots anywhere?

some1else• 15 years ago

I guess this explains the frantic "Bank of America Sucks" domain purchases.

http://www.businessinsider.com/wow-bank-of-america-bought-su...

rst• 15 years ago

Detail on what's being alleged here: http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/03/wikileaks-whistleblow...

In outline: banks were supposed to be funneling mortgage payments to holders of bonds backed by the mortgages. But they were (allegedly) siphoning off some of that money for themselves or their cronies --- nominally in the form of ludicrously overpriced premiums for insurance policies against default. This would be legally actionable if it held up, and there have been consent decrees in the past.

jedsmith• 15 years ago

Yet by burying that in the middle and near the end, bookended on both sides by what can be perceived as whining by an ex-employee, "OperationLeakS" has basically made it cakewalk for Bank of America's PR to deflect this.

I halfway hope that Wikileaks is using Anonymous as a smokescreen and has given them a little bit of info so that BoA can burn their PR on them, then the supposed hard drive that is referenced again here actually comes out later.

levigross• 15 years ago

The documents may be up but that site keeps on going down.

hollerith• 15 years ago

So why screenshots of an email client instead of the emails themselves?

I fear that OperationLeakS probably cannot imagine how screenshots can be forged, so he believes them to be more authoritative than emails.

scottkrager• 15 years ago

They need to remove all ads from this domain, otherwise BofA can easily take the domain for trademark infringement.

First dump of Anon BofA Documents is up

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