Startup School Beijing

http://conference.startupschool.org/

by tvvocold • 8 years ago

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walrus01• 8 years ago

New Pied Piper?

kewafb14• 8 years ago

Hah that's what crossed my mind too :)

middle12• 8 years ago

When will original online Startup School start this year? Who knows?

ajeet_dhaliwal• 8 years ago

Are you talking about this? https://www.startupschool.org/

I don't understand if this is something online or not, it mentions attending group office hours.

middle12• 8 years ago

Yes, I was meaning that one.

sandslash2• 8 years ago

It's all completely virtual. All "attendance" in the course is done online, including group office hours.

sandslash2• 8 years ago

The Startup School online course will start in August. We'll make an announcement soon!

baybal26• 8 years ago

Out of all places? Why???

And...

Saturday, May 19, 2018 (5 月19 日，周六) Tsinghua University （清华大学) Beijing, China （中国北京)

This is just... they could've just went for the central committee party school if they wanted to get high profile handshakes that much

molteanu• 8 years ago

Out of all places? Why???

"Since China is the fastest growing tech ecosystem in the world and a massive center of new innovations - we want to meet more founders from China!"

b6• 8 years ago

I'm not optimistic about this at all. The same metrics for success just don't apply in China. All the elements necessary for success in the US could be there, but in China the startup may get red-taped and legislated out of existence in favor of a basically identical entity with better connections to the Satanic squid in charge of the country. I predict a rapid demise for this project, sorry to say. Talented Chinese entrepreneurs, please make your way out of the country as soon as you can.

neolefty2• 8 years ago

Having spent 5 years there, I have to say it's not a uniform hellscape, to say the least.

There are millions of potential Chinese entrepreneurs, idealistic and talented, who deserve to have their efforts catalyzed. That's the way forward. If you want a new generation of leaders and a more egalitarian culture, you are not alone, and I'm super happy to see YC decide to help build it.

greatabel• 8 years ago

They need compete with www.sinovationventures.com.'Sinovation Ventures' has quite a few similarities to YC, for example:The founders like to support each other, etc

seanmcdirmid15• 8 years ago

Kai Fu’s (famous for the ballmer chair) innovation works has been around forever, it’s not like China is lacking for YC-style tech incubators. However, they are all Chinese owned and managed without direct connections to SV.

contingencies4• 8 years ago

There is HAX in Shenzhen, but it's focused on pre-crowdfunded consumer hardware projects. However, at their last building (they moved around 2016/2017) the space apparently interleaved the foreign cohort with a domestic intake they never talk about (to my knowledge) in foreign media. https://hax.co/

There are quite a few in Hong Kong as well. https://medium.com/whub/hong-kong-accelerator-and-incubator-...

SuperNinKenDo• 8 years ago

I'm disappointed to know that YC has drank the cool-aid on China. Once you invest significantly in China, you quickly find yourselves beholden to the whims of the CCP. And for what? Such privileges as building their dystopian techno-autocracy for them? I don't see any signs in this statement that you are going into this with your eyes open to either the difficulties this will cause down the line, nor the morally "questionable" things you will all be a part of building now. Of course, none of that will be in there, because you all already know that to say anything untoward on the matter would break the ice right out from under your feet.

And of course, that's all if you're actually "successful", unlikely given the CCP will prefer something more malleable than even the likes of Zuckerberg are willing to be. I foresee a rapid demise to this project, indeed, I pray for it, as the alternative, you guys actually succeeding, would be painful to watch given what it will involve.

opportune• 8 years ago

Agreed, investing in China is the "invading Russia" of the tech world. Yes, China is a huge market and a rapidly growing economy, which makes investing there an extremely appetizing prospect. However, it seems very difficult for non-chinese to be able to hold onto their investments in China without their business being ripped off (e.g. having the business model copied by a more Chinese company that gets favorable government treatment and takes over the nascent market), not to mention the political uncertainty of having to deal with / win the favor of arbitrary officials in the Chinese government that may have interests conflicting with your own.

And even if you are successful, you have to consider the ethics of what you're enabling - suppose you create a wildly successful and helpful service for Chinese people that involves users' geographic data, private messages between individuals, or financial transactions. You won't get a say in turning over that data to authorities for any and every reason that they have for wanting it. Are you willing to actively participate in corruption and the quashing of political dissent for money?

DanielBMarkham• 8 years ago

"And even if you are successful, you have to consider the ethics of what you're enabling..."

This is the thing I don't understand. Ten years ago, you could make a case that simply by making stuff people want, the world would become more connected, all sorts of goodness will happen.

You can no longer make that case. People are not idiots. They see both the good and bad that tech has brought.

Technology companies are ethically responsible for what their tools end up doing. And if they can't be bothered to develop their own ethics, the rest of us are going to have to develop some for them.

I must be missing something. YC is a really smart bunch of guys. Certainly they know what the hell they're getting into.

TAForObvReasons• 8 years ago

you have to consider the ethics of what you're enabling

Keep in mind, YC took money from Yuri Milner in 2011 even though people knew at the time that there were connections to Russian oligarchs [1] and funded startups that promulgated junkware installers [2] among other things. On the "doing the right thing" vs "making more money" spectrum, YC is firmly on the side of "making more money", ethics be damned.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3143894 the PG comment and the first few responses contextualize this well.

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5092711 a discussion about InstallMonetizer

mistermann6• 8 years ago

Agreed, investing in China is the "invading Russia" of the tech world.

I'd go even one step further, it is more like partnering with Germany, except in this version of the story Germany might be successful in its quest to take over the world, because make no mistake, China is coming for your market, it's only a matter of time.

It is encouraging that more and more people are finally starting to put the pieces of this puzzle together, shame it is far too little and far too late.

throw20163• 8 years ago

This is jingoism masquerading as concern for autocracy. If people really cared about things like surveillance or dystopias in any serious way they would be on the streets about the extensively documented activities of the NSA, rubber stamp courts, secret orders, searching through personal effects at borders and campaigning for Snowden and other whistle blowers to be brought back with honors.

But on the ground these laws are renewed without protest, whistle blowers are hounded and demonized with little to no push back and dissenters like Snowden and Assange continue to be stranded for years on end.

If no one seems to care enough about these issues in our own countries or our own dissenters how can concern for others countries be authentic. Don't use fabricated concerns to demonize others.

api4• 8 years ago

I think this is "whataboutism."

America's respect for individual liberty and the rule of law has eroded over the years, but it is still considerably stronger than what's found in China. You see some of the same corruption and autocratic tendencies on both sides of the Pacific but there is a substantial difference in degree and pervasiveness. We are not the best in the world (several EU countries are better) but claiming the USA is equivalent to the PRC just lowers the bar.

In China many of the kinds of open anti-state discussions that happen regularly here would get people arrested, not to mention criticism of leadership. Try talking openly about Xi Jinpeng the way lots of Americans talk about Donald Trump (or talked about Barack Obama). I was driving around Irvine, CA the other day and saw an anti-anti-immigration protest with signs comparing Trump to a chimpanzee and Hitler. Do that in China in an affluent section of Beijing. Dare you.

Edit: you can also buy Donald Trump Piñatas in Santa Ana, a heavily Hispanic area of LA/OC metro. Try selling a Xi Jinpeng piñata in Beijing.

nieksand2• 8 years ago

It seems very fashionable to pull out moral equivalency every time China's autocracy and misbehavior is mentioned.

Simple experiment:

1. Walk down Pennsylvania Avenue with a sign that says "Trump is a pussy grabber who should be impeached". 2. Go to Tiananmen Square and hold up a poster-sized picture from the 1989 massacre.

See how equivalent the governments are then.

(As an aside... if I was employed by the Chinese government to spread propaganda in other countries, your comment is roughly what I'd write).

api4• 8 years ago

I've become rather disturbed by the amount of pro-autocratic sentiment I've encountered in tech circles. It comes in both the "right" (and "alt-right") and "left" varieties, as well as a few other weirder forms, but it's there.

I guess hackers are no different from anyone else. Dangle money in front of people and they do tend to toss their morals out the window more often than not. I am not claiming that I am superior either. If someone offered me a shitload of money to do something I considered unethical, I can't say with 100% certainty that I'd never take it... to claim so would be the fallacy of self-exclusion. "I might be a coward I've just never been tested." - The Mighty Mighty Bosstones / The Impression That I Get

I've also anecdotally observed that people with high IQs are often autocrats. They're prone to imagining that there are straightforward solutions to all the worlds problems and that all these problems could be solved if only things were run by smart people like them. They haven't yet been humbled by attempting to solve a really brutal multi-objective optimization problem or tame a complex system full of paradoxical effects and feedback loops. Attempting to govern a complex society is both of these things.

eksemplar2• 8 years ago

China is the future though. As scary as that is, it’s still reasonable to invest in Chinese tech, at least if your plan is to make money.

I don’t think westerners in general realize how advanced China is becoming. Being from Europe, visiting China is like stepping into a sci-fI novel. Not a happy one, mind you, but it’s becoming impossible to ignore.

realusername• 8 years ago

China is the future though. As scary as that is, it’s still reasonable to invest in Chinese tech, at least if your plan is to make money.

I don't have a lot of examples of successful western companies operating in China, they all seems to be blocked of at some point because of ""regulations"".

mtgx2• 8 years ago

I'm curious what will happen to China's economy after another major economic crisis. Especially if it happens in say 10 years, by then robot manufacturing should be much more advanced and many western companies may opt to quit China and go the robot route.

FLUX-YOU• 8 years ago

What if this is just a way for American companies to acquire Chinese tech or talent?

seanmcdirmid15• 8 years ago

It would be extremely stupid. Judging by the number of Chinese working tech in the USA, they have already acquired that.

mtgx2• 8 years ago

Here's to the next-generation YC-backed censorship tools!

whatyoucantsay5• 8 years ago

Make no mistake. YC will slowly but surely come under pressure to give the CCP influence over content as well as access to private user data, first their own and then that they wield influence over.

Don't forget the malware-ridden Chinese Skype client, LinkedIn's willingness to censor global content on China's behalf, or Yahoo's capitulation of dissident information that lead to executions.

HN will likely start suppressing any factual discussion on Taiwan or the nine dash line as "flamewar bait" while allowing increasingly nationalistic Chinese propaganda to pass unchecked. It won't be today or tomorrow but money and influence wear down almost any organization eventually.

This is a sad day, and it only marks the beginning what is to come.

burger_moon• 8 years ago

I noticed that Airbnb operates in China currently. Perhaps there are other YC investments as well, but it seems this isn't the beginning of YC's investment into China.

I had begun writing up a tin-foil hat theory on why YC would open this Startup School there, until I realized Airbnb, one of YC's flagship investments is already there.

fisheuler• 8 years ago

北京欢迎你。

erikb4• 8 years ago

This will fail so much. If you ever had anything to do with China you know there's no path in. Especially under Xi.

Even in the old lang sine, when China was (more) open to the West it was still hard. Think about getting serious stuff stolen, threatened by people with sticks etc. Then you sue someone and the judge simply decides in favor of the Chinese party, no matter what they did.

The only option I can see is if you have privately loads of money and then marry a strong business family in China. Then through your Chinese wife you can achieve something.

forkerenok• 8 years ago

I would assume YC has plenty of "wives" and "husbands" (read network connections) in China to vouch for them in front of CCP leaders.

Edit: Besides, regardless of connections, I think, the deal where YC provides easy U.S. market entry for Chinese startups for a share in the company is pretty attractive to both sides.

erikb4• 8 years ago

Yes, that's what they think if they offer that. And my additional point was that what westerners consider "network connections" you can't have with Chinese people if you are not of Chinese heritage nor married to a Chinese wife. Even if you are a woman and married to a Chinese husband it might not be enough, because he won't listen to you in business related issues. Also hiring Chinese consultants to take care of the relationship won't work, because when the fighting starts they will side at least secretly with the Chinese other party.

Also one needs to consider that culture is not just weird behavior. Through the back and forth of each appropriate reaction a Chinese person can achieve something with other Chinese people, despite him being also very frustrated with how the Chinese culture works. Because you don't know the intuitive right reaction you cannot get to that point where you can finally get some honest/valuable response. It can't be learned from a book. You need to grow up with this, because even the Chinese people don't really understand why it works.

mistermann6• 8 years ago

Think of it this way: eventually, China will figure out and dominate this market like any other they've tackled. So if you stay in the US, you're just delaying the inevitable. This way, you're in on it, you're buying favor in a sense - in the new world order, having an pre-existing relationship with the 900 pound gorilla might come in handy.

erikb4• 8 years ago

Okay interesting point of view. So you still fail but you fail earlier than the other western competitors and you might fail less. Can't say much against it.

jlg23• 8 years ago

I am amazed by the negativity in the comments. China is a very specific environment with its own rules - just like the US or Europe.

There you need to maintain good relations with the party, in the western world it is government officials (preferably those who are not voted into office and thus stick around).

Entering such a new, different playing field should tickle every entrepreneur's nerves.

Edit: How we fail, esp. in the fb- and now Google debate, that most of the tech we develop is dual-use and can be turned against us in an instant, escapes me.

Endy• 8 years ago

Thank you so much for displaying that YC has taken a step toward accepting China's desires to rule the world and a step away from supporting free and open cultural discourse. I think I'm going to be avoiding HN for a while, so that I can avoid the pro-Chinese propaganda and policy which is likely to result from this move.

baby6• 8 years ago

This is awesome. I’ve been wondering how hard it is to partner up, give trainings or consult in China. Without many english speakers there it seems that the Chinese language is a pre requisite but it might be getting better.

If anyone has experience to share I’d be interested. I’m guessing this kind of ventures might be easy sales to universities like Tsing Hua.

jk23234• 8 years ago

What do you have? What do you want?

baby6• 8 years ago

Oh, I've been giving applied crypto trainings at Black Hat and different venues. I was wondering if I could train or give classes in China, or collaborate or do security consulting for companies there.

tgb29• 8 years ago

I have the priveledge of being around Chinese students who are studying in the US. Two comments I've heard recently:

'Doing research in China is the dream'

'I'll move back to China after I graduate; there's more opportinuty for startups there.'

Matticus_Rex• 8 years ago

I've had the dubious privilege of being around many college students, and in that experience the fact that they say something is true about markets or academia has very little relationship to whether it is actually true.

gaius• 8 years ago

How does this square with https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16918480 ?

neolefty2• 8 years ago

BTW, that's a link to a discussion of the NYTimes article "Wanted at Chinese Startups: Attractive Women to Ease Coders’ Stress".

Likewise, isn't Hollywood the place with Harvey Weinstein? Must be purely evil.

No, China is big and intellectually diverse. Many young idealists who deserve to be catalyzed. Source: Lived there 2011-2016.

coupdejarnac3• 8 years ago

Most people commenting on these China posts have a superficial, at best, understanding of China.

Dowwie• 8 years ago

Of all the provinces, why Beijing?

baybal26• 8 years ago

Of all the provinces, why Beijing?

Because this guy lives there > https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Xi_Jinpi...

jk23234• 8 years ago

Because Beijing is the best city in China. Shanghai is for people who don't like China.

By the way, never fuck with anyone with money in Shanghai. There is always somebody with more money than you. Never fuck with anyone with power in Bejing....

philippz• 8 years ago

I don't find Beijing to be the best place to start something like that. I'd rather prefer Shanghai which provides a much better ecosystem and access to capital than Beijing.

seanmcdirmid15• 8 years ago

Shenzhen is the tech place to be in China. But if you want to make the government happy, you got to be near them in Beijing, so a lot of tech happens there also.

mirgj2• 8 years ago

Is true, but Shenzhen is culturally very different from Beijing and so is Shanghai.

Shenzhen is a new city and tech stuff are there because of the influence of Guangzhou as production hub and HK as facilitator for access to the west.

Beijing is more, let me say it, artistic. Is much more vibrant, culturally, than any other city in China. This kind of mix that you can find in New Work, Berlin or London also it brings innovation. So I don't think is meant to make the government "happy". Many Chinese tech company started in Beijing form many reasons: education, capital access, culture and so on. To give you an example: Mobike was founder by an ex journalist

baby6• 8 years ago

As a foreigner, Shenzhen is kind of a boring industrial city. That's probably why they chose Beijing which is equally as exciting as Shanghai in my opinion. As for pollution, they might both be pretty bad choices.

seanmcdirmid15• 8 years ago

How does this work since foreigners are still not allowed to have equity in Chinese startups? Is YC getting an exemption from the government, or are they holding it in a Chinese incorporated company?

contingencies4• 8 years ago

This is not my experience, owning one and having owned another. Foreigners can own outright or have a stake in multiple types of organizations, either directly or indirectly, though not all (certain protected sensitive industries such as media, finance, etc.). I suppose this is perhaps a misconception based upon some kind of isolated incidence in which a domestic Chinese registered company had issues writing a foreign investor as a direct shareholder. I am certain this can be done but wouldn't be surprised if it may require alteration of the registration category of the company or the reformation of a new entity owing to the ancient (but improving!) corporate registration system which was geared toward early large foreign industrial investments which came with substantial government shepherding. I seriously doubt the assumed case that caused this misconception is some kind of conniving attempt at ineffective protectionism - far more likely just the wee end of inertia stemming from old-school socialist bureaucracy.

seanmcdirmid15• 8 years ago

This is simply not true. Many foreigners have been scammed by this, working for a Chinese startup on the promise of equity, and then being eventually told it is impossible because the government won’t allow it. See: https://www.chinalawblog.com/2016/09/the-china-stock-option-....

If you are a foreigner working for a domestic startup, you simply aren’t allowed to have equity. If the company is already listed or is a foreign company, then no problem, otherwise it simply isn’t allowed.

notbeevil• 8 years ago

Well, for money, they can bend their knees.

mstaoru• 8 years ago

Usually, it's structured as a WFOE (wholly foreign-owned entity) with Singapore, BVI, or HK LLC as a parent company. Then shares are issued in HK LLC.

contingencies4• 8 years ago

Great timing! Right in line with our Series A. Happy to meet any HN'ers! Email in profile.

Presquare2• 8 years ago

Very exciting news!

I hope YC will help Chinese startups become global. My biggest problem with Silicon Valley is its ideological uniformity and the increasing willingness to use their companies/products as vehicles to push their ideologies.

China would be in an excellent position to address the part of the Western market that is increasingly alienated by this push. They can build SV tech clones for the local market, and then expand to the global market by offering ideologically more neutral (from Western perspective) alternatives to SV tech.

Chinese startups will have their own flaws, but at least we will have a choice.

seawlf• 8 years ago

ideologically more neutral I hardly feel like the global market will accept Chinese alternatives as being "ideologically neutral" in any sense of the phrase.

benjaminsuch• 8 years ago

    I hope YC will help Chinese startups become global.

Why would you want that? As long as the chinese goverment prevent foreign companies to buy chinese companies no one should be happy about chinese startups going global. The chinese goverment is highly corrupt and only supports actions which benefits the chinese. That's why there are so many "joint ventures".

ObnoxiousProxy• 8 years ago

I agree with the corrupt part, but it's interesting that you say "the chinese government...only supports actions which benefits the chinese" as if it's a horrible thing. Every government does what is best for their country... Being upset about it is like getting mad at fire for being hot.

ribfeast• 8 years ago

What ideologies do you mean exactly?

ng124• 8 years ago

I'm deeply confused what "ideological diversity" Chinese companies will offer. How much of the Western market is really pining for that autocratic, pro-censorship touch?

Presquare2• 8 years ago

Sam Altman wrote in a blog post, "Earlier this year, I noticed something in China that really surprised me. I realized I felt more comfortable discussing controversial ideas in Beijing than in San Francisco. I didn’t feel completely comfortable—this was China, after all—just more comfortable than at home." [0]

This probably wasn't because China is inherently less censorious, but rather the set of controversial ideas in Beijing are different than the set of controversial ideas in San Francisco.

Thus Chinese companies can be biased in ways that are relevant to the Chinese market, but less likely to be biased in ways that are relevant to the Western market.

If SV companies are biased in a way that is relevant to the Western market, this can be an opportunity for the Chinese companies to provide a more neutral service.

[0] https://blog.samaltman.com/e-pur-si-muove

indescions_2018• 8 years ago

Will there be a livestream? Would be a great opportunity to try out instantaneous real-time audio and video translation in english, chinese and japanese ;)

Baidu Shows Off Its Instant Pocket Translator

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/610623/baidu-shows-off-it...

auganov6• 8 years ago

To people debating whether China are the good guys or not - hundreds of thousands Falun Dafa practicioners are locked up in Chinese concentration camps. Thousands have died of torture. Many more are suffering it everyday. China is ruled by a cruel evil regime. No question about it. You won't hear people involved with China talk about it. You won't be allowed into China if you do.

eksemplar2• 8 years ago

America has been making children afraid of blue skies with its murder drones for the past 15 years. If evil was an obstacle we wouldn’t be able to use American tech either.

I’m not a fan of China and I’m certainly weary of their government spying through their tech, but I’m not really a fan of the NSA being able to read my emails either.

Obviously America is the lesser evil, and it’s unfortunate that power is shifting to China, but maybe there will be some healthy lessons in American tech when you start to feel the abuse you’ve put your friends through. Probably not though.

auganov6• 8 years ago

How exactly are uninteded civil casualties in military operations comparable to systemic and deliberate jailing and killing of innocent people? This is very low grade whataboutism.

logicallee3• 8 years ago

You won't be allowed into China if you do.

My understanding is that you have to just check your free speech at the door. For example my immpression is that specifically you, auganov, even if this profile is under your real name, would be allowed into China without any issue. (Despite what you've just written.)

The standard I've heard said is that "you wouldn't be able to stand in Tiananman square with a 'Free Tibet' sign". To those of us in the free world, that's a ridiculously stifling standard. You can stand in Washington or Times Square with a sign reading whatever you want, 'it's a free country'. China, obviously, isn't. You can't use the standard "hey, it's a free country" because it's not.

But this does not extend to your speech outside of China. Trying to bring your free speech into China seems (to me), on a practical level, like trying to bring your heroin, cocaine, and guns in your carry-on to America. Can't do that (and there would be serious consequences.)

But that doesn't mean you can't have ever touched a gun, cocaine, or heroin in your life, it's not retroactive. To prove my case, let me say that Taiwan is an independent country, Tibet doesn't belong to China, and, hmmmm what else don't they like. Oh Xi is a dictator for wanting to be President for life.

I wouldn't ever say any of those things if I'm in China, even in English, even on an international forum, because I would have checked my free speech at the border. On a practical level state oppression is a huge private business. When you're in China you're not free, even in your mundane online speech, such as in private messages in wechat. People pay attention to watching what they say, on an everyday level.

But to return to my point, it doesn't mean you wouldn't be allowed in China if you expressed your thoughts previously in the free world.

EDIT: I forgot to mention, I've heard an exception for journalists, in the sense that their previous speech is examined more closely, but I don't know if they're refused entry or just watched more closely once there.

auganov6• 8 years ago

False. Examples: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-42053790 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/22/australian-cri...

Be notable or persistent enough and it'll get you banned.

dang2• 8 years ago

Please don't take HN threads into national/political flamewar. Regardless of how correct your atrocity assessments are, this is off topic and violates the site guidelines.

Others have been violating the guidelines in this thread too, but at least the other subthreads haven't gone completely out to the generic political sea.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

auganov6• 8 years ago

Dang, they're not "my assesments". They're cold, hard, well-known facts relevant to the discussion. Almost all the comments are political. The standard HN policy on threads that go too political is to just nix the whole thing. You know it and I know it.

whatyoucantsay5• 8 years ago

It's not off topic at all. YC is now literally working with the authoritarian dictatorship committing the above atrocities as well as committing more executions than any country on the planet. More than the rest of the top 10 combined. This is news.

As is the fact that you're suppressing comments on these atrocities, which are far more extreme and less frequently discussed here than very tired US political wedge issues you disable flags on. This behaviour is a gross abuse of power.

You and your fellow VCs will make a fortune in the next few years. But blood will be on your hands, and it will harder to live with than you imagine. You already realize it on some level, albeit a deeply buried one.

http://www.theweek.co.uk/92884/which-country-executes-the-mo...

sandGorgon• 8 years ago

India drives the most number of applications to YC after the USA.

I wonder why China was chosen over India.

ausjke• 8 years ago

you go china, you listen to CCP, then you probably will make some money by trading away your soul.

if you want to have freedom of speech there somehow, you're out immediately, the great firewall is there for a reason.

exabrial• 8 years ago

Interesting... I'll be in Bejing these dates, I may stop in!

pnw_hazor• 8 years ago

How will this impact my social credit score?

Every day China is becoming even more of a nightmare dystopia, so of course YC will dive in headfirst.

zwaps• 8 years ago

A country where if you disagree with any policy on social media, your kids literally can't go to school, you can't fly and you can't buy a house.

Sure, I'll invest right away!

jpincheira• 8 years ago

to any of the organizers... is it possible to attend to the talks even though I'm starting a company based off -at the moment- Vietnam?

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