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http://www.source3.io/

by madspindel • 9 years ago

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source3.io

hasenj• 9 years ago

what is/was source3?

prh8• 9 years ago

we set out to recognize, organize and analyze branded intellectual property in user-generated content

Looks like technology to fight copyright infringement

6stringmerc2• 9 years ago

Agreed; also, turn it around and it becomes a user-generated-content tool as well. As in anything that goes viral, the brand owner can take ownership of and exploit as an unauthorized derivative work, free of any user recourse.

Well, except Fair Use, but I'd hope that's part of their model to consider, because it's important I think.

amelius• 9 years ago

Might be a smart move by Facebook: if this technology was used on Facebook, then they might have to shut down half of Facebook. Better to buy them out.

rhizome• 9 years ago

I'm guessing something like a "Let's Go Crazy Babydance" detector. Combine Shazam with image recognition seeded with brands and product images and you can cover a lot of UGC with takedowns or ad rev takeovers.

nxrabl• 9 years ago

That's a promising move by Facebook. Maybe they're finally going to start cracking down on the rampant freebooting that dominates their platform.

lyinsteve• 9 years ago

I have the strange feeling this will really only be used to enforce the copyrights of large music and movie industry corporations and will not be effective at protecting the IP of independent creators.

fgandiya• 9 years ago

It looks like it's a system similar to contact ID. I hope this helps slow down all the free booting.

iknowicouldturn2• 9 years ago

Wonder how much they'll be using the technology and how. Will they try to do it like YouTube with trying to keep videos up, and having the revenue go to the copyright owner? Or maybe they won't do much. Comments seem to be divided.

twunde2• 9 years ago

I suspect that it will more likely be similar to YouTube where they try to keep images and other IP up, and generate ad revenue for both FB and the creators. Most of the team behind Source3 worked on a startup called Rightsflow, which did music licensing and eventually was acquired by YouTube. They were responsible for doing a lot (all?) of the music licensing for videos, so that instead of videos being taken down they could instead stay up and have rev-share for everyone.

iknowicouldturn2• 9 years ago

Yeah that makes sense and most likely for sure.

twunde2• 9 years ago

A major congrats to the source3 team! I'm excited for them and for the changes they'll bring to Facebook.

philfrasty3• 9 years ago

Did Facebook ever consider building out their video product outside the newsfeed to keep people on the platform? YouTube seems like easy prey with FB's reach.

scarlac• 9 years ago

They are/have. Several news sites are already embedding FB videos.

If you're asking if they'll make a social network with video... They already have. It's Facebook. And they've recently begun pushing live video a lot harder.

philfrasty3• 9 years ago

YouTube has great discoverability but no shareability with video. Facebook has the exact opposite. I wonder why they don't tackle this. IMHO videos in the newsfeed are not enough to attract content creators. There needs to be some kind of special section/UI.

notwhiteknight• 9 years ago

What happens when the thieves acquire the police? Who is going to police content, and for what purpose now? We already know that Facebook has profited tremendously from the freebooters.

QAPereo• 9 years ago

In a more real-world sense, I think you can look at the current state of law enforcement around drug laws in the US for a solid guide to the sort of relationships you're describing. Eventually, the police and the thieves become the same thing; the state thieves.

geofft2• 9 years ago

In the United States, more private property was lost last year to "civil asset forfeiture" than to conventional thieves. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/11/23/cops-...

geofft2• 9 years ago

They're both corporations. A thieves/police distinction has always been meaningless.

If you want content to be policed because policing content is a social good, make the government (the actual police) do it.

If you want content to be policed because it's profitable, the vertical integration of "thieves" and "police" lets you leverage synergies.

crsv• 9 years ago

Can't wait to see how source3 helps Facebook be a more despicable service.

aklemm• 9 years ago

Jeez, talk about hold-outs. Lots of grandparents have already been on Facebook for a number of years.

digitalshankar2• 9 years ago

We're leaving Facebook.

http://www.quitfacebookday.com/

praneshp2• 9 years ago

I downvoted you because your comment did not contribute to the conversation.

digitalshankar2• 9 years ago

thanks! someone upvoted me because they understood my comment.

throwanem• 9 years ago

Same.

throw2bit• 9 years ago

Thats great. But why is this on hackernews ? Whats the relevance ? There is a single page linked to this.

MusaTheRedGuard• 9 years ago

It's an acquisition/acquihire

sandstrom• 9 years ago

Another entry for »Our Incredible Journey«

https://ourincrediblejourney.tumblr.com/

ijafri2• 9 years ago

booom! http://www.source3.io/bundle.css (open source CSS) ???? WTFFFFF!!!! what have you contributed to Open Source and internet overall?

* Bootstrap v3.3.7 (http://getbootstrap.com) * Copyright 2011-2016 Twitter, Inc. * Licensed under MIT (https://github.com/twbs/bootstrap/blob/master/LICENSE)

janpieterz• 9 years ago

I fail to see what you're trying to point to here.

Are you saying a company shouldn't be allowed to use open source if they're not "contributing to open source and the internet overall"?

lccarrasco• 9 years ago

I'm sorry, what do you mean by this comment? If they use MIT licensed software there's no obligation for them to contribute back anything, not that it's good or bad, but it's the terms of the license.

Also there's no way to know if they have contributed or not, and even if there's no direct contribution (pull reqs) we can't know if they haven't reported bugs or supported employees that wanted to collaborate to the projects on their free time.

iamleppert• 9 years ago

Dear mom: when I grow up, I want to create the world's best content identification and DRM system, and along the way build a platform to manage IP online and establish relationships with brands!

ijafri2• 9 years ago

Johnny, we could not be more proud of you. Love, Mom.

hkmurakami• 9 years ago

"When I grow up I want to hold an honest job, be an upstanding citizen, earn a strong wage, pay my fair share of taxes, and work on interesting problems, technical or otherwise."

If we can respect lawyers and accountants, surely we can respect people who have worked hard to grasp an economic opportunity, even if we wouldn't in a thousand years worked on the problem they chose.

danso• 9 years ago

Hadn't heard of Source3 before but would they potentially be the first investment Facebook has made in a Youtube-like Content ID program? Given the accusations and complaints of folks who find their YouTube content re-uploaded to FB without permission or compensation, maybe this will be a good thing (if you've more-or-less accepted the status quo of Content ID and its drawbacks).

A highly-upvoted HN discussion on a Slate article about YouTube videos being plagiarized by Facebook users: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9854160

shostack• 9 years ago

It makes complete sense too as FB makes bigger plays at pre/mid-roll ads in videos. Seems like this could be an effort to limit their liability from serving ads on top of work with copyright issues and then profiting from it (or paying out a revshare to the uploader who may not be the rights holder).

cybervegan• 9 years ago

Will their system be able to discern fair use or just brand anything that contains samples of "IP" to be "illegal"?

Content owners already have far too much control over their wares.

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