Which Programming Language did you pick for your idea?

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by theoutlander • 19 years ago

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theoutlander10• 19 years ago

Flex on Rails = ROR + Flex

gibsonf14• 19 years ago

Lisp (with MySQL)

samueladam• 19 years ago

Python & Django

robertgaal• 19 years ago

Rails

ivan• 19 years ago

PHP, if ROR would be more supported here, than ROR

drop19• 19 years ago

Seaside (because I want to implement some heavy desktop-like capabilities)

richcollins• 19 years ago

How does seaside help with that? Do you code all of the client logic in Smalltalk instead of Javascript?

papersmith6• 19 years ago

I guess seaside's continuation passing style helps to reduce complexity in managing states, which is a major requirement in desktop-like apps.

joshwa• 19 years ago

My current project is in RoR, but I've not ruled out other languages/frameworks for other projects, depending on what suits the task best.

mattjaynes2• 19 years ago

PHP5 (as fastcgi w/ lighttpd and sqlite3)

theoutlander10• 19 years ago

What is your experience with FastCGI??? I am running ROR off it, but lighttpd throws quite a lot of 500 Internal Server Errors.

mattjaynes2• 19 years ago

Hmm, I haven't used my current setup in production yet. Development has been fine, only time will tell. Hopefully I don't get the errors you experienced :(

staunch2• 19 years ago

FastCGI is super lightweight and very powerful. If you're seeing errors like that you likely have a problem that requires fixing. Judging from your post it might involve excessive question marks in a regex.

jamongkad3• 19 years ago

Have you considered SQLite?

staunch2• 19 years ago

Perl w/ Catalyst/DBIx::Class/Template Toolkit and MySQL

brlewis• 19 years ago

My idea is a web application that manipulates a particular set of data, so of course I use BRL.

floozyspeak• 19 years ago

Ruby on Rails

wensing• 19 years ago

Python (Pylons, Mygthy), MySQL, ActionScript.

bootload• 19 years ago

- python, c (django, wx)

- sql, (mysql)

dmitry• 19 years ago

C# and .NET framework, because my project is a distributed multi layered app. Plus I know it too well to use sometings else

blats• 19 years ago

Stating your chosen platform, and then feeling the need to defend it (twice) in the same sentance.. not a good sign.

theoutlander10• 19 years ago

I like .NET Framework..... However, be vigilant about perf!

randallsquared• 19 years ago

Python and web.py

timg• 19 years ago

python, webpy, binding in code from just about every other language.

amichail• 19 years ago

Java + gwt + eclipse + derby db

tim• 19 years ago

Python, C, C++ (Django, PostgreSQL)

damien• 19 years ago

Python & C

jamongkad3• 19 years ago

Ruby and Java

theoutlander10• 19 years ago

Are u considering JRuby ??

jamongkad3• 19 years ago

I might be. but for the mean time I'm exploring Rails :-) and gettng my Ruby skills up to match. Although I can't seem to shake Java's verbosity out my system and it reflects on my Ruby programs. :-)

mkull• 19 years ago

rails + postgres

edgeztv• 19 years ago

Java + GWT

doke01• 19 years ago

PHP and openlaszlo

entelarust• 19 years ago

PHP

ias2• 19 years ago

Lisp + MySQL

chris_l2• 19 years ago

me, straight Common Lisp (SBCL)

cridal• 19 years ago

Do you guys use a web framework, like kpax, or straight CL?

theoutlander10• 19 years ago

LISP is cool!! I did it 10 years ago.... but keep confusing it with ML and Prolog.... :-|

papersmith6• 19 years ago

I would love to see more Lisp web apps in startups. It's been quite discouraging after reddit abandoned Lisp.

gillionaire• 19 years ago

php 5 and mysql 5 w/ zend platform

phony_identity2• 19 years ago

PLT Scheme + PLT Scheme web server + flat files (actually serialized s-expressions on disk. Which aren't very flat.)

ido• 19 years ago

Why not use a database?

SwellJoe• 19 years ago

You're asking "why not add complexity?" Not a good place to start.

If a project needs a database you'll know it pretty quickly...and it's easy to convert to using a database at that point. The only time I've ever regretted a decision about databases was when I designed a log processor that didn't immediately have relational needs...over a couple of weeks of implementing the requirements I ended up writing a relational layer in Perl against a Berkeley DB backend. That was stupid, and I should have thought a little harder about the requirements. But it was my first big solo project, so I blame inexperience for not recognizing a relational problem from the start. Luckily, SQLite had just been released, and converting my app to use it (and losing a hundred lines of code) was a one day operation. It made the app approximately 100 times faster for my data set.

But, well over half of my applications since then have not required a database and have been well-served by flat files.

phony_identity2• 19 years ago

Because it's much easier to just dump your data to disk as you already have it, rather than translate it to SQL idea of what data is: SQL types, one-to-many relationships, etc.

This is not just a Scheme thing. If you use Java you have serialization. Python calls it 'pickle'. I'm sure whatever else you are using probably has something equally simple.

boris• 19 years ago

C++ I need to support embedded systems, servers and everything in between.

mukund• 19 years ago

Ruby on rails + Postgres

meyouall• 19 years ago

PHP

papersmith6• 19 years ago

Started out with Ruby on Rails, changed to Python (pylons) + mako + toscawidgets + postgres for more flexibility. Considering giving Common Lisp (Uncommon Web) a try, but the documentation scared the heck out of me.

wastedbrains• 19 years ago

We are currently looking at both Ruby and Python... What made you change, what makes you feel more flexible? We have been evaluating some of the Python frameworks and are currently trying to weight the positive and negatives of all the options... Any huge issues or just a bunch of different little things?

papersmith6• 19 years ago

To be honest the different isn't that huge. The major reason I chose python is because there are many python web libraries that conform to WSGI standard, which means I can easily swap out components (routing, template, widgets, database mapping, etc.) that suites me the best. As a result there is a broader variety of each type to choose from in python.

Rails, as stated by its creators, is opinionated software, so you're stuck with their preferred way of doing things, which fortunately is not too bad as of now. So if you're a control-freak like me who also wants to squeeze more juice out of your CPU cycles, then go for python. If you want to put your trust in a well-integrated framework of components cherry-picked by smart folks, then go for rails or django (also python, but a little less flexible).

Here's a fairly up-to-date overview of python web dev options: http://jesusphreak.infogami.com/blog/vrp1

danielha• 19 years ago

Python.

philc• 19 years ago

Rails + Mysql

My webapps are requiring a lot of client side logic to be really interactive, so I've found that the biggest producivity factor is what I'm doing with Javascript. The Rails code I've been writing is mostly trivial; as long as it lets me talk to the database easily, I feel like any language could be used on the backend. However, I do love scripting in Ruby, and Rails makes it easy to use its DB abstractions in external scripts.

The best gains on the client-side come from using a good library. I've gone from Prototype/scriptaculous to YUI-ext to Mootools. I love Mootools. I've never been able to bring myself to try Dojo; it seems like it's trying to put the Java back into Javascript. What do you think?

Cthulhu• 19 years ago

Application : C#/F# Web : asp.net 2.0 with C#/F#

theoutlander10• 19 years ago

Are you serious?? I didn't know people actually used F# ... are you using it for the Java Syntax or any other reason??

nmcfarl• 19 years ago

Perl - Catalyst and PostgreSQL

ryantmulligan2• 19 years ago

Python on Planes

theoutlander10• 19 years ago

LMAO!

whacked_new• 19 years ago

intentional double pun? pure brilliance.

ryantmulligan2• 19 years ago

Got it from Slashdot.com

eduardoflores• 19 years ago

RoR fits perfectly for my project

gommm• 19 years ago

Ruby on Rails and Merb.

I'm actually just starting to use merb for simple requests that don't need the full rails stack (merb being threadsafe whereas rails is not, so it's useful to delegate some of the simple stuff to merb).

I still plan on investigating flex and seaside in the short term, just to see if there is any good ideas I can learn... (in a longuer term, I'll dedicate some time to lisp)

jaggederest• 19 years ago

Trying to get HAppS to work. http://www.happs.org/

Of course, I'm about ten lines of code in, so I probably don't count.

Tichy• 19 years ago

Since nobody mentioned it: I plan to at least evaluate Groovy+Grails - hoping it might be a smoother transition coming from a Java background than going to RoR directly. Also, some things just work better with Java, and Groovy might allow me to build on that (what things? Getting a database driver for example).

melhorn• 19 years ago

Ruby (on Rails) for the web interface, I love it! :-)

Java for data mining, image manipulation and data shoveling, like in xml transformation. You can't really use Ruby for this... We also chose a servlet for one of our web services for performance reasons.

seunosewa• 19 years ago

I'm going to build an ultimate web forum with Python

kogir• 19 years ago

C++, C#, ASP.NET 2.0, MS SQL 2005, IIS 6 on Windows C++, PHP, Ruby, MySQL, Memcache, Apache on Linux

I try to pick the best tool for the job and run with it.

maliciouskitty• 19 years ago

I started out using java with WebObjects for a year, then found Django, never look back again.

Python is a lot better than Java for agile startups.

vikram• 19 years ago

Lisp and Javascript

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