Developing a Process for Visualizing the Insanity

by lsternlicht • 17 years ago

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mcantelon11• 17 years ago

It would be nice if the author applied his design and writing skills to something more interesting than destroying as much of the ozone layer as possible in a month (or is there some valuable aspect of his project that I'm missing?).

sp332• 17 years ago

He's not causing the planes to fly, he's just taking advantage of them.

Better to make sure that ozone layer didn't die for nothing :)

mcantelon11• 17 years ago

Passengers are weight. Carrying weight requires fuel.

Given how lucky we are in the west to have the resources we do it would be nice if we tried to use them responsibly.

edw5192• 17 years ago

Already beaten to death. You can catch up here

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=782418

kyro• 17 years ago

It'd also be just as nice for you to apply your commenting skills strictly to pen and paper instead of using your monitor, computer, and internet to waste energy by the second. But even then, you'll be destroying the forests if you used pen and paper. Seems like any option you take will ultimately result in some sort of pollution/destruction of the environment. It's best that you just stand still and breathe - ah nope, never mind - that's CO2 production.

Point is, he's not actively destroying the ozone layer and almost everything we do, from daily tasks to journeys like these, comes at some cost.

mcantelon11• 17 years ago

I see. Because everyday activities have some effect on the ozone layer, a month of constant, pointless, unneccessary flying - an activity that is widely known to have a large impact on the ozone layer - is okay. Got it.

electronslave3• 17 years ago

As I said the last time this came up, if a seat isn't filled on an outbound flight, it just makes more room for cargo.

mcantelon11• 17 years ago

Less total weight carried, across the system as a whole, would result in less fuel consumption.

jules2• 17 years ago

If more people travel by plane the airlines notice and build new planes.

minsight• 17 years ago

You had better be posting this from a computer powered by a stationary bike and an attached generator.

mcantelon11• 17 years ago

My workstation runs off a hydroelectric power grid.

edw5192• 17 years ago

I don't remember if you guys already did this, but would you mind posting your itinerary with exact dates and cities? Preferably in this thread or with a link.

Dinner and drinks on me, maybe even a place to crash if we're in the same place at the same time. I imagine other hackers would do the same if they knew.

dcurtis• 17 years ago

We only settled on the final itinerary this morning, and we'll post it soon.

I think we have overnight stays in Ft Lauderdale, Denver, Chicago, Long Beach, San Francisco, and Burlington, VT (tonight). Most of the flights leave the early the next day at 6:00am though, so they're not much of "stays".

tolmasky• 17 years ago

I'm actually quite looking forward to reading this thing, great design btw.

AGorilla• 17 years ago

Did JetBlue's CEO meet with you today?

jack78902• 17 years ago

I think Dustin is a supremely talented designer, and I find his writing generally engaging, but remain perplexed by how everything he posts, no matter how mundane, flies to the top of HN.

mrlebowski• 17 years ago

yes, he's got good PR here ;-D from comments on some of my previous comments, I'd suggest flagging any posts that you do not like :)

Pasting here for convenience - (by robg) Please don't submit comments complaining that a submission is inappropriate for the site. If you think something is spam or offtopic, flag it by going to its page and clicking on the "flag" link. (Not all users will see this; there is a karma threshold.) If you flag something, please don't also comment that you did.

If your account is less than a year old, please don't submit comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. (It's a common semi-noob illusion.)

http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

jack78902• 17 years ago

Duly noted, thanks. I don't think this is flag-worthy; I mildly enjoyed it. I'm just curious why his posts do so extraordinarily well here.

alabut• 17 years ago

It's probably a combo of the fact that he's YC alum, his articles are also an experiment in art directing every single individual post, plus you don't find a lot of designers that exhibit the hacker mentality of tinkering with stuff in public to see how it works. As a designer, the natural instinct is to wait until something is fully baked and say "ta da! look how pretty this is!" rather than show a work in progress.

That's what makes Mark Boulton's Drupal work so interesting as well:

http://www.d7ux.org/

lsternlicht• 17 years ago

Most of his articles are great examples of web design that greatly enhance a reader's experience. I think that the importance of good design is often overlooked. I've always admired the design of YC startups, which I believe has made for more enjoyable experiences. After all, design is one of the three things YC mentions.

"How do we choose who to fund? The people in your group are what matter most to us. We look for brains, motivation, and a sense of design. Experience is helpful but not critical."

yef• 17 years ago

Um, OK, but that first timeline doesn't tell me where they started from. A map would be nice, too. Maybe some charts indicating how much time is spent on the ground vs. in the air.

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